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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Akhat: 1:49pm On May 07
Please I really need advice on this.

quote author=Akhat post=129828029]Good morning House,
My agency carried out a Nigeria credit check on my profile using my BVN for a new job. And the check came back with my names not arranged in the right order( Middle name was provided as first name). Now the agency wants me to complete a credit check on experian, and directed me to indicate on experian that I have a previous name, and then provide the names in the (wrong) order of arrangement that was in the Nigerian credit check result. And also just put any date in experian as the date I started using the name that is in the right order.

Though some of my colleagues that had the same issue did as instructed, but I am yet to do mine because I am worried about any future implication.
Please what would you advice.[/quote]
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hyzich(m): 2:00pm On May 07
Lexusgs430:


We men tend to overthink things, our wives have superwomen tendencies....... You been at home to support her today and tomorrow, is an ideal position........ What would happen the day after tomorrow.......

Speak to HR, they would surprisingly be very sympathetic and offer you relevant support.......

Thanks boss.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 2:39pm On May 07
hyzich:


Thanks boss.

Super human tendencies ti ba wo! What if there are birth complications? Haba jama'a.

OP - have a chat with your new HR team. Explain that your wife has some medical procedures coming up in that week and as you have a toddler, she'll be incapable of looking after them both. Then say you're not quite sure of the dates but it'll be around your starting week.
Give them a range of offers to show your willingness to accommodate starting as agreed.

As baby decides if and when they come, you have a few choices.

1. Offer to start earlier if you have finished your fixed term now.
2. Offer to start later ie 2 weeks later.
3. Start on the agreed date and take 2/3 days sick leave (you can take sick leave to care for unwell relatives) when madam goes into labour. If there's dependant leave even better as you can use that instead.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:49pm On May 07
hyzich:
Elders Good Morning,

Please I need your candid advice, I recently got a permanent offer which is closer to where I live and pays more than my former role but the snag here is that my wife is heavily pregnant and I forgot to discuss this during the interview. The new coy wants me to resume by 27th of this month because they are aware that I’m on a FTC in my current role which is difficult for me because my wife has less than 3 weeks to EDD. Please how can I share this with them than won’t affect my current offer.

2nd Plan- I also intend to get someone to come in and assist my wife on days I will work on site so that I won’t need to take any excuse. I am really confused as I do not know how best to address this.

Regards

Cc
Lexusgs430
Babajeje123
Zahra29


When is your wife's EDD?

I would take Lexus and Ticha's advice.

HR can be very accommodating when it comes to unavoidable family circumstances such as these, so I would be open with them and ask it they could push back your start date or allow you work flexibly/part time coming up to EDD and directly after.

Start off by being vague on the details e.g. using words like "my wife might need to go into hospital on x date"....you don't have to tell them that this date was her EDD lol. They shouldn't probe as it's a delicate matter.

It'll be fine. They'll work around you - it's easier than trying to recruit someone else.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:58pm On May 07
Lexusgs430:


We men tend to overthink things, our wives have superwomen tendencies....... You been at home to support her today and tomorrow, is an ideal position........ What would happen the day after tomorrow.......

Speak to HR, they would surprisingly be very sympathetic and offer you relevant support.......

Really? @ the bolded....I find the opposite to be true for most men 😂 (e.g. a woman would not forget to mention her husband's impending delivery during an interview lol)

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 3:02pm On May 07
Strata1716:
Hello everyone
At this point I’m beginning to think I am cursed or something as I am so confused and saddened.

I currently work as a band 5 in the NHS and after 4 months of hard work and rejections looking for a sponsored role, I got a band 7 offer project manager role. I noticed my contract said fixed so I messaged the HR asking why my contract isn’t permanent. I assumed I would be sponsored but I never brought this up with anyone. I got this response “
We can only offer you a fixed-term contract as you have an expiry date on your visa, once your visa expires you will need to give HR your new visa information and your contract will be renewed to the next expiry date on your visa, this will happen until you have permanent right to work in the UK”.

I have not asked them anything about sponsorship but the response has completely shattered me as I would be moving to another town for this role, my current job contract expires in August and I’ve been told renewal is possible.

I am confused on the next step of action to take, do I try to ask for sponsorship and risk the offer being withdrawn or do I accept the fixed term and risk not giving me myself enough time to look for a sponsored role. My visa expires next year November .

I really need help so I don’t make the wrong choice.




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Lexusgs430
Babajeje123
Zahra29
giselle237
Dustydee
Lavida001
Hmmm...this is dicey a bit. Your contract might not be renewable at the end of the day and you may be back in job market. The only benefit this new role has is the band and experience you stand to gain which would open you to more opportunities. If you are a risk taker, you can go for it however you MUST start looking for a role that is permanent with sponsorship.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 3:04pm On May 07
@strata1716… if I understand you correctly what visa are you on? If you are on a skilled work visa, then as soon as you leave your current job no matter the length of the BRP, your visa expires when you leave the current employer.
So what is the November next year you speak of date? A fixed term contract just means it would have a fixed duration and has nothing to do with sponsorship. If you would require sponsorship in terms of COS then speak to the employer . Just ask them directly
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:07pm On May 07
Strata1716:
Hello everyone
At this point I’m beginning to think I am cursed or something as I am so confused and saddened.

I currently work as a band 5 in the NHS and after 4 months of hard work and rejections looking for a sponsored role, I got a band 7 offer project manager role. I noticed my contract said fixed so I messaged the HR asking why my contract isn’t permanent. I assumed I would be sponsored but I never brought this up with anyone. I got this response “
We can only offer you a fixed-term contract as you have an expiry date on your visa, once your visa expires you will need to give HR your new visa information and your contract will be renewed to the next expiry date on your visa, this will happen until you have permanent right to work in the UK”.

I have not asked them anything about sponsorship but the response has completely shattered me as I would be moving to another town for this role, my current job contract expires in August and I’ve been told renewal is possible.


confused on the next step of action to take, do I try to ask for sponsorship and risk the offer being withdrawn or do I accept the fixed term and risk not giving me myself enough time to look for a sponsored role. My visa expires next year November .

I really need help so I don’t make the wrong choice.




Cc
Lexusgs430
Babajeje123
Zahra29
giselle237
Dustydee
Lavida001

You're not cursed - you just landed a Band 7 role in a highly competitive job market. cool

Tell them that you were of the impression that the role would be sponsored as it meets all the relevant criteria, and ask them outright if they would be open to sponsoring the role.

HR won't withdraw an offer just because you asked a perfectly reasonable question- worst case they'll say no and let you decide if you still want to proceed. Or hopefully they'll realise that you are looking for sponsorship and decide to look into this for you in order to retain you. But if you don't ask, you won't get.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:19pm On May 07
Ticha:


Haha they did hack into the NZ parliament and NZ Ministry of Health!

Our pure Chinese comrades? Never - I'm sure it was those dastardly Brits 😂

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 3:32pm On May 07
Anyone with experience with Civil service job grades equivalent of NHS.bands

Say to choose between Nhs band 6 and Civil service HEO.

Which would be preferred.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:12pm On May 07
Zahra29:
Breaking news: British Ministry of Defence has been hacked by the Chinese state.

What an outrageous lie from the UK. As if China would ever do such a thing... 👀

The stated country wasn't mentioned. Quite reasonably, it wasn't China. On the back of recent events, if it was China, you'd expect the government and media to go into a frenzy. The fact that the name of the culprit nation was witheld makes it very likely a 'friendly' and more powerful state - wouldn't surprise me the U.S and the government only stating this cos they're duty bound or they want to front-run an embarrassing leak to the press.

As one British commentary put it, international espionage is not new and what China is accused of doing is expected or the norm among powerful states. Not too long ago, it came to light the U.S had long tapped the personal phone of the German chancellor (a fellow NATO nation), U.S agencies had long prevented messaging platforms from instituting encryption until they were guaranteed a back door. They have long done the illegal of tapping their citizens communication how much more the rest of the world.
The US and UK were the first to clearly warn Ukraine that a Russian incursion was set despite Ukraine and Russia denying such. I don’t want to believe they got this information by asking Russia. Same double standard again crops up- what western nations have done for eons becomes problematic when a non-western nation dares it.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by OmichaelO: 4:13pm On May 07
Hi Guys,

please who can point me to the comment in this thread about how to get BRP for a new born, I thought I liked the comment. but I went through my likes and couldn't find it.

@zahra29, lexusgs460
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 4:19pm On May 07
OmichaelO:
Hi Guys,
please who can point me to the comment in this thread about how to get BRP for a new born, I thought I liked the comment. but I went through my likes and couldn't find it
Apply for the visa with birth certificate. U do not need passport for it. When they ask about passport in application, just write passport not made as baby born in uk. No problem. You have to add parents details and sign consent form online. Nothing difficult

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:19pm On May 07
hyzich:
Elders Good Morning,

Please I need your candid advice, I recently got a permanent offer which is closer to where I live and pays more than my former role but the snag here is that my wife is heavily pregnant and I forgot to discuss this during the interview. The new coy wants me to resume by 27th of this month because they are aware that I’m on a FTC in my current role which is difficult for me because my wife has less than 3 weeks to EDD. Please how can I share this with them than won’t affect my current offer.

2nd Plan- I also intend to get someone to come in and assist my wife on days I will work on site so that I won’t need to take any excuse. I am really confused as I do not know how best to address this.

Regards


Strata1716:
Hello everyone
At this point I’m beginning to think I am cursed or something as I am so confused and saddened.

I currently work as a band 5 in the NHS and after 4 months of hard work and rejections looking for a sponsored role, I got a band 7 offer project manager role. I noticed my contract said fixed so I messaged the HR asking why my contract isn’t permanent. I assumed I would be sponsored but I never brought this up with anyone. I got this response “
We can only offer you a fixed-term contract as you have an expiry date on your visa, once your visa expires you will need to give HR your new visa information and your contract will be renewed to the next expiry date on your visa, this will happen until you have permanent right to work in the UK”.

I have not asked them anything about sponsorship but the response has completely shattered me as I would be moving to another town for this role, my current job contract expires in August and I’ve been told renewal is possible.

I am confused on the next step of action to take, do I try to ask for sponsorship and risk the offer being withdrawn or do I accept the fixed term and risk not giving me myself enough time to look for a sponsored role. My visa expires next year November .

I really need help so I don’t make the wrong choice.


Jokes apart and not to sound awkward, employers are not God. These could be easily sorted by a quick email to your HR. It's either they say yes (likely) or no. If they say no, then one can start strategising.
Same also with the NHS role. A simple email to them would suffice. Either they provide you sponsorship or not. If they decline now, you could ask if they could comit to do that on your current visa expiration. If they still decline, it's up to you to decide if the experience and potential of leveraging on that is worth it.
At the very least, dont be too timid to ask
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 5:03pm On May 07
Zahra29:


Really? @ the bolded....I find the opposite to be true for most men 😂 (e.g. a woman would not forget to mention her husband's impending delivery during an interview lol)

Exactly! That was a huge oversight at discussing start dates stage
I cam understand not mentioning it at interview but once an offer was given and start dates discussed, it should have been forefront, top line to dicuss. Especially as regardless of EDD he wouldn't have been entitled to paternity leave.
Employers even accommodate pre- booked holidays not to mention a whole new baby

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:44pm On May 07
jedisco:


The stated country wasn't mentioned. Quite reasonably, it wasn't China. On the back of recent events, if it was China, you'd expect the government and media to go into a frenzy. The fact that the name of the culprit nation was witheld makes it very likely a 'friendly' and more powerful state - wouldn't surprise me the U.S and the government only stating this cos they're duty bound or they want to front-run an embarrassing leak to the press.

As one British commentary put it, international espionage is not new and what China is accused of doing is expected or the norm among powerful states. Not too long ago, it came to light the U.S had long tapped the personal phone of the German chancellor (a fellow NATO nation), U.S agencies had long prevented messaging platforms from instituting encryption until they were guaranteed a back door. They have long done the illegal of tapping their citizens communication how much more the rest of the world.
The US and UK were the first to clearly warn Ukraine that a Russian incursion was set despite Ukraine and Russia denying such. I don’t want to believe they got this information by asking Russia. Same double standard again crops up- what western nations have done for eons becomes problematic when a non-western nation dares it.

To summarise:

It couldn't have been China.

But even if all the evidence confirms it to be China, then they're still blameless because Western countries have done the same/worse.

cheesy
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:46pm On May 07
Ticha:


Exactly! That was a huge oversight at discussing start dates stage
I cam understand not mentioning it at interview but once an offer was given and start dates discussed, it should have been forefront, top line to dicuss. Especially as regardless of EDD he wouldn't have been entitled to paternity leave.
Employers even accommodate pre- booked holidays not to mention a whole new baby

Lol completely agree. It's not a criticism against men, it's just that they're not as adept at multi-tasking/multi-thinking, especially under pressure, as us women folk.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:53pm On May 07
Schoolhike:
Anyone with experience with Civil service job grades equivalent of NHS.bands

Say to choose between Nhs band 6 and Civil service HEO.

Which would be preferred.

I haven't got experience of either, but my observation is that compared to the NHS, the civil service is increasingly being accused as being bloated with job cuts being suggested.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 6:06pm On May 07
Strata1716:

I have not asked them anything about sponsorship but the response has completely shattered me as I would be moving to another town for this role, my current job contract expires in August and I’ve been told renewal is possible.

I’d ask them immediately, most especially once I get the unconditional offer. Same applies to my spouse, got nhs B3 (support worker) in England. We already concluded on moving to England because I want to be flexible with my work, then we were advised to ask if they do sponsor, surprisingly she was told they don’t offer sponsorship to b3 healthcare, was glad that we asked and not assuming that they will definitely give based on hearsay that other trust sponsors b3 healthcare, glad that we asked the question, which saved us a lots.


DWP is also doing the same offering role based on length of visa. It’s kinda tough outside these days, in fact some of HR are now confused with this new rule and guidance.

Would advice you stay in your current role if sponsorship is guaranteed (make sure you ask if you haven’t), then if not just love to B7 and start planning to move to another one again that can sponsor (also have it in mind that mid that when you plan to join another employer (I’m sure of civil service, not sure of nhs, your current annual pay will be protected, will not be lesser) so that give you an edge in term of salary being above current threshold.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 6:13pm On May 07
Zahra29:


I haven't got experience of either, but my observation is that compared to the NHS, the civil service is increasingly being accused as being bloated with job cuts being suggested.

Read a whole Reddit thread on it, and the conclusion on that is there may be a freeze in hiring, also natural waste (retirement, leavers, sickness, death etc ) will account for the numbers planned. Also if there is a change in govt, it’s likely that it’s never going to come very soon because new govt will need CS staffs for there planning etc., it’s also very expensive laying off permanent staffs, and the process is always very long,

Some highly operational departments or sectors in CS will be immune to it as well.

Heard from a friend also that their is hiring freeze in some nhs trust (nhs not immune to redundancy or downgrading I guess most especially those in corporate)

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 6:20pm On May 07
Zahra29:
Breaking news: British Ministry of Defence has been hacked by the Chinese state.

What an outrageous lie from the UK. As if China would ever do such a thing... 👀

I'm not entirely surprised cos the UK cybersecurity defence is grossly weak. Same with the US.

By the way, they have both been doing same to other countries na... Do me I do you grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 6:35pm On May 07
hyzich:
Elders Good Morning,

Please I need your candid advice, I recently got a permanent offer which is closer to where I live and pays more than my former role but the snag here is that my wife is heavily pregnant and I
This reminds me last year less than 2 months to my spouse EDD, employer proposed a start date todays the EDD, I gave two options which were either I start immediately with their proposed start date with full work from home for 2 months or I start at a later date almost two months as well. They were happy with the first option, tho my performance was way above expectations in the first 2 months most especially for someone coming in newly.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Strata1716: 5:57am On May 08
giselle237:
@strata1716… if I understand you correctly what visa are you on? If you are on a skilled work visa, then as soon as you leave your current job no matter the length of the BRP, your visa expires when you leave the current employer.
So what is the November next year you speak of date? A fixed term contract just means it would have a fixed duration and has nothing to do with sponsorship. If you would require sponsorship in terms of COS then speak to the employer . Just ask them directly

I’m on a graduate visa hence why I’m scared not to hv a sponsored job at this point
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 9:31am On May 08
Strata1716:

I’m on a graduate visa hence why I’m scared not to hv a sponsored job at this point
pls ask the employer about sponsorship. This or the next. But since it is graduate visa and you have sometime till next year then you might also want to take your chances and hope for a better opportunity next year with your now band 7 experience in hand. Your graduate visa is till nov 2025 you say so I feel there is time.
Also follow all the advice above mine

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by OmichaelO: 10:15am On May 08
giselle237:
Apply for the visa with birth certificate. U do not need passport for it. When they ask about passport in application, just write passport not made as baby born in uk. No problem. You have to add parents details and sign consent form online. Nothing difficult
Bless you.

Thank you so much
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 2:01pm On May 08
OmichaelO:
Bless you.
Thank you so much
Just remember that for ease of stress as well and in consideration of travel side of things to apply for baby’s passport when you can as Nigerian HC wastes time

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Controlv: 3:36pm On May 08
Strata1716:


I’m on a graduate visa hence why I’m scared not to hv a sponsored job at this point

I understand how frustrating it is having put the efforts; please don't allow this to weigh you down.

Ask for the sponsorship like others have suggested. It's also possible that the salary for the B7 role does not qualify for sponsorship based the new threshold so you may need to have a look at the salary threshold before applying for future jobs.


If the current role does not offer sponsorship, I would take the B7 role for the money and experience.

If you're mobile and the job can be done remotely, you can ask to work from home so you don't need to relocate. This was what I did when I was offered a fixed term contract in the South West while I lived in the Midland, I only had to travel to the office once a month.

All the best.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by OmichaelO: 3:41pm On May 08
giselle237:
Just remember that for ease of stress as well and in consideration of travel side of things to apply for baby’s passport when you can as Nigerian HC wastes time
we need to resume travelling ASAP that is why I am starting the process now.

Thank you once again
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by alongetayo: 6:18pm On May 08
Hi all,
Please anyone flew with Airmaroc recently? I would like to hear reviews about there flights to Nigeria. I’m seeing some unbelievable return cheap flights from Manchester for late in the year. Has anyone flown them please?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by eniola1010(m): 8:19pm On May 08
please who can recommend a very strong and effective project management bootcamp here for me.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by horlahxeyi: 11:39pm On May 08
hi all, please some of us wey follow healthcare COS come in and our agency isnt giving us jobs but solely doing the 20hrs shift. is there any advice to comply with the expected hours of work? thanks.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by GraceofGod100: 1:22am On May 09
giselle237:
@strata1716… if I understand you correctly what visa are you on? If you are on a skilled work visa, then as soon as you leave your current job no matter the length of the BRP, your visa expires when you leave the current employer.
So what is the November next year you speak of date? A fixed term contract just means it would have a fixed duration and has nothing to do with sponsorship. If you would require sponsorship in terms of COS then speak to the employer . Just ask them directly

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