Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,148,644 members, 7,801,874 topics. Date: Friday, 19 April 2024 at 03:08 AM

‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? - Religion - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? (45826 Views)

Famous Nigerian Pastor & Church Dedicated To The Occult / Contemplation Seeds From Eckankar / The Eckankar Cult In Nigeria (Africa) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (Reply) (Go Down)

‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:44pm On Oct 04, 2014
‪What is Eckankar? Is it a cult, a religion, part of the occult?

http://www.gotquestions.org/Eckankar.html

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by darnley16(m): 4:33pm On Oct 04, 2014
Its a cool religion tho, my uncle and his family are all Eckist, its like a cult tho, if that's wht you'll call christainity or islam! They belive in the light and sound of God, they belive in re-incarnation(with concrete facts backing them up ) and they tell you , your previous re-incarnated self, and after series of findings and investigation you see that the facts are true or really over welming,,,, its a fun religion tho,,, they are remotely in PH. And most south south parts of Nigeria and the world,

5 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by benodic: 9:12pm On Oct 04, 2014
my dear olaadegbu,

you really made me laugh this night. i didn't know you were such a funny guy. i saw your post and i said what in heaven's name is olaadegbu doing disseminating info about ECKANKAR and how does he even know anything about ECKANKAR. so i went straight to your link and had another laugh.

you see there is one thing you have to understand. we in ECKANKAR simply do not care about any negative info or any name calling levelled at us by anybody or any group. the energy you spend castigating another religion is best spent contemplating on GOD. the mystery surrounding God is so enourmous and mankind over the ages has grappled with it, which resulted in many religions being practiced on earth today.

nobody has monopoly over truth. the test of any religion at the end of the day is in how has it made your life better. how has it brought love for God and your fellow man into your heart. love at the end of the day is the key to heaven and by their fruits you will know them.
it is mentality like yours that is causing the chaos on earth today, people leave the truth and pursue shadows and spend more time inflating their egos by proclaiming that their God is bigger than yours. really?

so my dear if you like continue your bashing, it doesn't take anything away from what ECKANKAR is. The Religion of the Light and Sound Of God. the light and sound being the manifestation of the Holy Spirit which when it comes into your life makes you a new being filled with love and bent on only carrying out the will of God. it is a life to live and not an argument to be argued about.

those who are interested in getting the correct information about ECKANKAR can go to the website: www.eckankar.org. ECKANKAR is also on facebook. if you have questions you want to ask an Eckist, you can go to the thread-https://www.nairaland.com/533844/contemplation-seeds-eckankar and drop your question there.

thanks

20 Likes 2 Shares

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by asalimpo(m): 6:13am On Oct 05, 2014
Most nigerians who schooled abroad had brushes with it.
Religion of light and sound!
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by asalimpo(m): 6:18am On Oct 05, 2014
darnley16:
Its a cool religion tho, my uncle and his family are all Eckist, its like a cult tho, if that's wht you'll call christainity or islam! They belive in the light and sound of God, they belive in re-incarnation(with concrete facts backing them up ) and they tell you , your previous re-incarnated self, and after series of findings and investigation you see that the facts are true or really over welming,,,, its a fun religion tho,,, they are remotely in PH. And most south south parts of Nigeria and the world,
you get sucked in after ur convinced.
Christians who know what going on,know tht an elaborate deceptive string pulling is going on in d backside to pull of tht deception.

1 Like

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by benodic: 7:24am On Oct 05, 2014
the way you christians respond to things you do not understand always make laugh. like a child who is warned by the parents to beware of the bogeyman who might just capture him .

in ECKANKAR, we are not interested in convincing anyone or begging anyone to believe in its teachings. we simply put out the truth as we know it for those who wants to know more about life . nobody forces you and nobody entraps you into becoming a member such an action in itself is a violation of spiritual law.

the teachings are simply for souls who are ready for it.
so relax , the bogeyman is not out to get you.

7 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by darnley16(m): 8:56pm On Oct 05, 2014
asalimpo:

you get sucked in after ur convinced.
Christians who know what going on,know tht an elaborate deceptive string pulling is going on in d backside to pull of tht deception.
ya true,,, but I do belive in reincarnation tho, I think its intresting for humans to be reborn again...,what you think?

1 Like

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by tribeofdavid(m): 9:56pm On Oct 05, 2014
benodic:

the way you christians respond to things you do not understand always make laugh. like a child who is warned by the parents to beware of the bogeyman who might just capture him .

in ECKANKAR, we are not interested in convincing anyone or begging anyone to believe in its teachings. we simply put out the truth as we know it for those who wants to know more about life . nobody forces you and nobody entraps you into becoming a member such an action in itself is a violation of spiritual law.

the teachings are simply for souls who are ready for it.
so relax , the bogeyman is not out to get you.

1 Like

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by Boss13: 10:02pm On Oct 05, 2014
I do not know much about eckankar but I have gone to some of their seminars and read some of their books and I can confirm that they preach and practice more love than Christians claim to do. According to them, you have to experience God not by what is written in a book but experience it yourself and by this nobody can deceive you.

11 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by tribeofdavid(m): 10:05pm On Oct 05, 2014
benodic:

the way you christians respond to things you do not understand always make laugh. like a child who is warned by the parents to beware of the bogeyman who might just capture him .

in ECKANKAR, we are not interested in convincing anyone or begging anyone to believe in its teachings. we simply put out the truth as we know it for those who wants to know more about life . nobody forces you and nobody entraps you into becoming a member such an action in itself is a violation of spiritual law.

the teachings are simply for souls who are ready for it.
so relax , the bogeyman is not out to get you.

Acts 4:10, 12 KJV
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. [12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
benodic:

the way you christians respond to things you do not understand always make laugh. like a child who is warned by the parents to beware of the bogeyman who might just capture him .

in ECKANKAR, we are not interested in convincing anyone or begging anyone to believe in its teachings. we simply put out the truth as we know it for those who wants to know more about life . nobody forces you and nobody entraps you into becoming a member such an action in itself is a violation of spiritual law.

the teachings are simply for souls who are ready for it.
so relax , the bogeyman is not out to get you.

Acts 4:10, 12 KJV
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. [12] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

John 14:6 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 Corinthians 3:11 KJV
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


MAY I ASK? who isJesus to you? Is your 'religion' built Him? this proves the answer to the OP question
John 14:6 KJV
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


MAY I ASK? who isJesus to you? this

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by tribeofdavid(m): 10:37pm On Oct 05, 2014
2 Timothy 3:14-16 But as for you, continue to hold to the things that you have learned and of which you are convinced, knowing from whom you learned [them], And how from your childhood you have had a knowledge of and been acquainted with the SACRED WRITINGS, WHICH ARE ABLE TO INSTRUCT YOU and give you the understanding for SALVATION WHICH COMES THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST [through the leaning of the entire human personality on God in Christ Jesus in absolute trust and confidence in His power, wisdom, and goodness]. EVERY SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),


Galatians 1:6-9
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Ephesians 2:17-18
When [the Messiah] came, He proclaimed the good news of peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For THROUGH HIM we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Colossians 2:3-4, 8-9
All the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden in Him.
I am saying this so that no one will deceive you with persuasive arguments. Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the ELEMENTAL FORCES OF THE WORLD,and NOT BASED ON CHRIST. For the entire fullness of God's nature dwells bodily in Christ,

1 John 4:3
but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and now is already in the world.

BRETHREN, WE KNOW JESUS CHRIST IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH, LET'S BE CAREFUL OF ANY 'GOSPEL' THAT ISNT TEACHING FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE.

4 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by asalimpo(m): 10:39pm On Oct 05, 2014
darnley16:
ya true,,, but I do belive in reincarnation tho, I think its intresting for humans to be reborn again...,what you think?
i believe wat d bible says on life post-death. Besides only a person who has died and return could giv an objectve reply from his experience. Since thts not the case i go with the Book.
There's no reincarnation,it's satan and his lies all behind it all.
Hav u noticed tht in all other religion judgement in the after life is downplayed or eliminated?
You think this is a coincindence?think.
With no retribution for life's sins and the suggestion tht sin is an archaic controlling concept,
people will do watever they like.

But it doesnt quite add up.
Take a more stable country like d u.s can you cheat the IRS and go scott free? No!
Can you commit murder and the fbi wink it off? No!
If justce works in this life,any religion downplayg it is a lie from hell. Period.
And its to get ppl comfortable with sin, only to find themselves in hell after death.

Catholicism- purgatory
islam - al janah ( kill for allah,and you'll b handsomely fvckd in their orgiastc heaven)
eastern religions - reincarnation
jehovah witness - annahilation

theyre all lies and traps.

3 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by asalimpo(m): 10:47pm On Oct 05, 2014
Boss13:
I do not know much about eckankar but I have gone to some of their seminars and read some of their books and I can confirm that they preach and practice more love than Christians claim to do. According to them, you have to experience God not by what is written in a book but experience it yourself and by this nobody can deceive you.

tht's an old tactic. The yakuza recruit members by offering a sense of family, to unsespectg recruits.
They "love" them. To convince them to join. After theyre entrenched, things take a downturn. Theyre ruled by the threat of death, they cant leave freely . The love dissapears.

1 Like

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by Boss13: 6:03am On Oct 06, 2014
asalimpo:


tht's an old tactic. The yakuza recruit members by offering a sense of family, to unsespectg recruits.
They "love" them. To convince them to join. After theyre entrenched, things take a downturn. Theyre ruled by the threat of death, they cant leave freely . The love dissapears.

The Christians do the same thing. You remember hell fire, how do you think that word emanated from?

3 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by asalimpo(m): 7:09am On Oct 06, 2014
Boss13:


The Christians do the same thing. You remember hell fire, how do you think that word emanated from?

a threat or a warning which?
You can freely leave God just as u can freely leave a secure zone but if ur warned tht danger awaits outside ,is tht a threat?
Stop gettg it twisted.
You cant freely leave satan or one of his phony hell-traps (false religions.) the devil aint no diplomat.

Try leavg islam.
Try leavg JW.
Try leavg the mafia.
Try leavg this eck thing.

2 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by honeychild(f): 1:50pm On Oct 06, 2014
asalimpo:

Try leavg JW.


objection please!

1 Like 1 Share

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by darnley16(m): 2:28pm On Oct 06, 2014
asalimpo:

i believe wat d bible says on life post-death. Besides only a person who has died and return could giv an objectve reply from his experience. Since thts not the case i go with the Book.
There's no reincarnation,it's satan and his lies all behind it all.
Hav u noticed tht in all other religion judgement in the after life is downplayed or eliminated?
You think this is a coincindence?think.
With no retribution for life's sins and the suggestion tht sin is an archaic controlling concept,
people will do watever they like.

But it doesnt quite add up.
Take a more stable country like d u.s can you cheat the IRS and go scott free? No!
Can you commit murder and the fbi wink it off? No!
If justce works in this life,any religion downplayg it is a lie from hell. Period.
And its to get ppl comfortable with sin, only to find themselves in hell after death.

Catholicism- purgatory
islam - al janah ( kill for allah,and you'll b handsomely fvckd in their orgiastc heaven)
eastern religions - reincarnation
jehovah witness - annahilation

theyre all lies and traps.
bro You mentioned some of your christain folks (Cahtolics and witnessess) does this mean christainity is divided in doctrines of where you go after death ,,,, sowi bout the questions
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:50pm On Oct 06, 2014
OLAADEGBU:


What is Eckankar? Is it a cult, a religion, part of the occult?

http://www.gotquestions.org/Eckankar.html

Question: "What is Eckankar?"

Answer: Eckankar is one of the New Age religions, started in 1965 by journalist Paul Twitchell. Before founding Eckankar, Twitchell was involved in yoga, self-realization groups, and Scientology.

In their own words, “The ECK is spirit. It is the force that sustains and supports all life throughout the worlds or SUGMAD [God]. . . . In ECKANKAR, contemplation is the spiritual exercise that opens the door to expanded awareness. And the Inner Presence of the Living ECK Master [Sri Harold Klemp] is the Spiritual Guide.” According to founder Paul Twitchell, the ECK Master, or Mahanta, is “omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent” (ECKANKAR: A Way of Life).

Eckankar, according to its official website, allows followers to “explore their own spiritual experiences.” It is also called “the Ancient Science of Soul Travel,” which teaches that a person’s soul can transcend the physical universe and visit the spiritual world where God is. Based in New Hope, Minnesota, Eckankar claims to be mankind’s oldest religion. It has an estimated following of 40,000 to 60,000 members.

The following are the basic beliefs of Eckankar:

God: An impersonal, amoral, pantheistic spirit. Twitchell described God (“Sugmad”) in his book The Tiger’s Fang as ignorant, internally inconsistent, in need of wisdom and education, negative, unawakened, wondering, poor, unhappy, not content with his creation and in need of assistance. Twitchell also said, “You will never find God by searching for Him. He is here and now within you!” One can only wonder why anyone who sees God in this light would want to find Him in the first place.

Sin: Simply karma that must be purged through the process of reincarnation and the work of the ECK.

Salvation: While Eckankar believes it is the most direct path to God, it also teaches that all religions are created by the ECK.

Jesus Christ: Twitchell stated that “Kal [the devil] is the Jehovah of the Jewish faith and the Father of the Christian teachings. . . .Therefore, we really see Jesus as a son of Kal Niranjan, king of the lower worlds.”

The fall, the second coming, heaven, and hell: All are Christian myths in the view of Eckankar.

There is nothing within Eckankar to provide guidance on moral issues such as abortion, sexuality, or other important issues. Determining what is “right” is left up to the individual. The spiritual practices of Eckankar involve trances, meditation, soul travel accompanied by “spirit guides” (demons), E.S.P., telepathy, mind reading, clairvoyance, and plugging into the “cosmic consciousness.” According to Eckankar, the human soul is on a spiritual journey to discover and improve the true self, thereby realizing its own true inner divinity.

It is clear that Eckankar is a false religion created by Satan and steeped in Hinduism and other Eastern religions. Satan is our “adversary, the devil, [who] walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour” (1 Peter 5:8.) When someone gets involved in any type of occult practice, he opens the door of his soul to the devil and his demons. This is why God is adamant in His Word about not involving ourselves in activities such as are promoted in Eckankar. “There shall not be found among you anyone who . . . uses divination, an observer of clouds, or a fortune-teller, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or one who calls to the dead. For all that do these things are an abomination to Jehovah” (Deuteronomy 18:10–12a). Not only do such practices put us in danger of encountering demons, they are detestable to God because they replace worship of Him, the true and living God, with the worship of the self.

There is nothing new here. The New Age philosophy of Eckankar is nothing more than Hinduism in another package. Its real purpose is the exaltation of the self, the same old lie Satan has been propagating since the Garden of Eden when he tempted Adam and Eve by telling them, “You shall be as God” (Genesis 3:5). Eckankar may appear peaceful and loving on the outside, but it houses occult doctrines and practices, it rejects the truth of God that He has revealed in the Bible, and it denies that Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, except by Me” (John 14:6).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Eckankar.html#ixzz3FOryJqch
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:40pm On Oct 18, 2014
What is the Eck? shocked
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by chieveboy(m): 1:16pm On Dec 31, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
‪What is Eckankar? Is it a cult, a religion, part of the occult?
http://www.gotquestions.org/Eckankar.html

ECK means Holy spirit, Ankar:...the way= Eckankar=the way/path of the Holy spirit.

Holy spirit is in English...more like a description of a certain spirit the English man had'nt grasp yet--an adjective. ECK is the age old name for the the Life force aka Holy spirit.
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by chieveboy(m): 4:20pm On Dec 31, 2014
@ Olaadegbu shocked cheesy grin shocked shocked
OLAADEGBU:

Question: "What is Eckankar?"

Answer: Eckankar is one of the New Age religions, started in 1965 by journalist Paul Twitchell. Before founding Eckankar, Twitchell was involved in yoga, self-realization groups, and Scientology.
In their own words, “The ECK is spirit. It is the force that sustains and supports all life throughout the worlds or SUGMAD [God]. . . . In ECKANKAR, contemplation is the spiritual exercise that opens the door to expanded awareness. And the Inner Presence of the Living ECK Master [Sri Harold Klemp] is the Spiritual Guide.” According to founder Paul Twitchell, the ECK Master, or Mahanta, is “omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent” (ECKANKAR: A Way of Life).
Eckankar, according to its official website, allows followers to “explore their own spiritual experiences.” It is also called “the Ancient Science of Soul Travel,” which teaches that a person’s soul can transcend the physical universe and visit the spiritual world where God is. Based in New Hope, Minnesota, Eckankar claims to be mankind’s oldest religion. It has an estimated following of 40,000 to 60,000 members.
The following are the basic beliefs of Eckankar:
God: An impersonal, amoral, pantheistic spirit. Twitchell described God (“Sugmad”) in his book The Tiger’s Fang as ignorant, internally inconsistent, in need of wisdom and education, negative, unawakened, wondering, poor, unhappy, not content with his creation and in need of assistance. Twitchell also said, “You will never find God by searching for Him. He is here and now within you!” One can only wonder why anyone who sees God in this light would want to find Him in the first place.
Sin: Simply karma that must be purged through the process of reincarnation and the work of the ECK.
Salvation: While Eckankar believes it is the most direct path to God, it also teaches that all religions are created by the ECK.
Jesus Christ: Twitchell stated that “Kal [the devil] is the Jehovah of the Jewish faith and the Father of the Christian teachings. . . .Therefore, we really see Jesus as a son of Kal Niranjan, king of the lower worlds.”
The fall, the second coming, heaven, and hell: All are Christian myths in the view of Eckankar.
There is nothing within Eckankar to provide guidance on moral issues such as abortion, sexuality, or other important issues. Determining what is “right” is left up to the individual. The spiritual practices of Eckankar involve trances, meditation, soul travel accompanied by “spirit guides” (demons), E.S.P., telepathy, mind reading, clairvoyance, and plugging into the “cosmic consciousness.” According to Eckankar, the human soul is on a spiritual journey to discover and improve the true self, thereby realizing its own true inner divinity.
It is clear that Eckankar is a false religion created by Satan and steeped in Hinduism and other Eastern religions. Satan is our “adversary, the devil, [who] walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour” (1 Peter 5:8.) When someone gets involved in any type of occult practice, he opens the door of his soul to the devil and his demons. This is why God is adamant in His Word about not involving ourselves in activities such as are promoted in Eckankar. “There shall not be found among you anyone who . . . uses divination, an observer of clouds, or a fortune-teller, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or one who calls to the dead. For all that do these things are an abomination to Jehovah” (Deuteronomy 18:10–12a). Not only do such practices put us in danger of encountering demons, they are detestable to God because they replace worship of Him, the true and living God, with the worship of the self.
There is nothing new here. The New Age philosophy of Eckankar is nothing more than Hinduism in another package. Its real purpose is the exaltation of the self, the same old lie Satan has been propagating since the Garden of Eden when he tempted Adam and Eve by telling them, “You shall be as God” (Genesis 3:5). Eckankar may appear peaceful and loving on the outside, but it houses occult doctrines and practices, it rejects the truth of God that He has revealed in the Bible, and it denies that Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, except by Me” (John 14:6).



Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Eckankar.html#ixzz3FOryJqch

...wow lol...l wonder what got you into this cheesy I thought you'll be busy doing something worthwhile...

I was thinking earlier before seeing this thread; it was about how Muslims during their fasting period, they would charitably sponsor messages called 'tafsir' on radio and TV...my problem with that is that most of the preachers would attack Christianity and its doctrines. What triggered that thought was the spate of killings by radical Muslims in the name of God. so l thought that if Muslims especially their preachers will concentrate on preaching peace as they claim was the motive of their religion, perhaps it will be the best option for a peaceful earth. But the preachers love to gain follower-ship and hailing (shouts of Allah u Akbar!) by making their messages sting...not to say there aren't better scriptures to preach about in there Holy Book. I listened to one one time and thought that in a sane country, that guy should be arrested... those are the kind of preaching they listen to and go and start BH. Question is : If the Muslims are those who got it right...that Mohammed is the last prophet to come...and the Islamic way is the true path to God...then what have they to gain or lose by attacking Christianity? They concede that God is all-knowing, all-powerful etc...so why won't they let him 'take care' of the 'sinners' after all God has got His hell for those kind of people? You as a christian am sure could make sense out of the situation that the Muslim's scripture had placed the average Muslim...as opposed to the biblical teachings.

Certainly, for you to be able to rate a standard, you have to measure it against a higher standard. There are standards and there are standards. Truth has levels...Paul of the christian Bible says "when l was a baby, l learn and function as a baby..." I was a christian, l discover that the average christian as characterized by the OP is either or both of a passive or active hypocrite!(no offense) l am allergic to that trait(hypocrisy,fakeness) and am direct and doesn't beat around the bush! Eckankar teachings as l have caught it is based mainly on the Holy Spirit--the ECK that Jesus Christ of the Christians spoke about as able "to lead you into all truth". Now if a Christian focuses his/her abilities and energy used to attack his fellow christian and other religions into ACTIVELY contacting the Holy spirit, you wont find them in the room where 'casting of stones' is happening for ANY REASON. If God is God, no one can and should fight for him! so the hypocrisy is this: Jesus condemned Judging anyone for any reason! 'yes the woman was an established adulteress, but a christian have 'sinned' if they condemn her..."let he without sin cast the first stone" This is not to mean l endorse the notion of sin! am saying "go and sell all you have and all you possess first...then you can follow me" ( am trying to quote some scripture here). By the time a Christian had solved all the requirements, riddles, wise-sayings, preachings, parables, exhortations etc in the Bible...He would have absolutely NO REASON to point a single eyelash at ANYONE for ANY REASON that includes fornication,adultery, false doctrine, holy anger, preaching for God etc. Funny thing is that most of the 'hypocrites' or perpetrators ALWAYS have a reason--one or two 'good-righteous' reason to commit a 'little sin'...in there minds, "God will understand my intentions".

l will leave you with these Facts:

1:The true supreme God IS, It has no enemies, cannot be angry, regret or exhibit any trait that you as a man will term negative FOR ANY REASON.

2: Soul is eternal, Man is Soul! and not said to" have a Soul"...there is a whole world of difference!

3: Eckankar does not practice clairvoyance, astral projection, spirit communication, and all of those things you wrote here... as far as you @OP and your false copy-and-paste is concerned, Eckankar does not practice any of these practices whether true or not--a good stream cant produce sweet and bitter water at the same time!

4: You pasted that "the Eck is spirit..." Well here is the fact: the ECK is what The English man termed HOLY SPIRIT;the very essence of God that maintains all the universes and planes of God! The very holy Spirit Spoken of by your Master Jesus Christ...this is not to mean we are trying to 'lick Christianity's butts' so as to appear 'nice'...after all ECKists DO NOT worship Jehovah--the 'God' of the Christians. We understand the place of Jehovah and therefore look out for his vital lessons!!! l hope you are getting the drift and making positive deductions from this statement!

5: Any one is free to walk in and out of any ECK center, Eck books are sold online on the official site and on Amazon etc. A registered member may decide he had had enough and wishes to quit the path. You wont find anyone tucking you shirt asking you why. Any one can attend an Eck seminar, ask whatever questions they have etc. so HOW DOES THAT MAKE IT A CULT please? Note that Eckist Hold positions of Government in Nigeria and the world over...Most of the constitutions stipulates that one must not belong to A CULT...this means that due scrutiny had been done by the Governments secretly and openly, and they have discovered the true tenets and principles of Eckankar, and had thereby Okayed it as a religion...how did you come to that conclusion? what are your unanswered questions about Eckankar?

6: silence is golden! ANYONE reaps what he had sown! No 'abeg' you attacked ECKankar...perhaps you will continue to do so..."after all there is nothing like 'ECK' in the Holy Bible" you may say... ignorance is no excuse really...like those radical Muslims that Kill for God...ignorant that the creator is not vindictive for ANY REASON and does not endorse their act, but yet will not write on the sky for them that "ALL my creation are precious , Holy and exists because of my love for them, l do not accept this!". Whether you or any one know, accept it or not...the Holy spirit is what ECK is...its only a case of nomenclature.

There are people who had discovered facts and truth for themselves that is against what religion tells them.They had dared to look outside the box...but yet they keep mum most times...cos its not 'written'. l was watching a live gospel TV of a popular Christian Pastor--I understand he is the type that "EAT BONES rather than MILK"... He walked to a woman and said " l know you before!...not now but...click, click, click(his fingers)" The woman could not remember or know what he was talking about, so he left the matter there. lf it was 'written' that people who die do come back and be given birth to, am sure the pastor will explain to her and the congregation what he meant.

so much for what is written and not written! As far as the Holy Spirit or Truth is concerned, truth CANNOT be put to pen and paper as a matter of compatibility. Its like how outer gesticulation Cannot truly convey the real happiness or sadness one feels; but a 'crooked' way of attempting to relay emotion. A mans eye is said not to be able to see some colors...that's how books are with truth...its unspeakable at times and by the time words or writing conveys it...it MUST go 99% mutilation. The same procedure goes for the physical body which Soul wears as one of the four apparatus for making contact with relative objects. So its safe to say the physical 'Shariat ki Sugmad' (Way of the eternal--Eckankar's Bible) and ANY OTHER HOLY BOOK...as far as it was written, then had lost a great deal of Truth and the true message it carries. Now to talk of the corrupt and perverse people that had handled most of the Holy Books...l for one would rather "trust in God, but tie my camel".

The way to God goes with out saying or acceptance that the path of the Holy Spirit is indeed the way! "God is spirit, and ALL who come to him must come IN SPIRIT and in truth" in other words You commune with GOD in Spirit to Spirit grounds! It means 'installing an android app on an android phone' not otherwise cos that scripture says " ...MUST come..." that something had been the practice for most of the time does not mean it is right...and most times you wont find God shouting out to you from the skies: " that's not the right way!"

God knows better that the small mustard seed will not end up as that tiny thing...IT knows better that the cocoon will transform to a maggot and then to a Fly, butterfly or whatever...it knows better not to force the larvae out--that's the best place to be for a larvae! So with the so--called religions, it can only serve for a time and purpose. If you find out that earth wasn't flat as your religion preaches and enforces on you...you sure want to search for answers...before finding answers, your present religion had been "the only way to Truth and God". ECKANKAR or Path-of-the-Holy spirit is for people who are not satisfied with "them say" or "the lord said". It teaches that Soul is equal to Soul and is free, pure, Holy and need only to REALIZE Itself as MADE IN THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD( whatever this means to you?)...and be able to exhibit the GODLY characteristics chiefly--DIVINE LOVE! So We ACTIVELY contact the Holy spirit by singing the Holy name of God--HU as a spiritual exercise and wait for the manifestation of the Holy spirit as the light and sound...like the one that Saul saw or like in the time of Pentecost!

When did the Holy Spirit started? when did ECKankar Started?

4 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:37pm On Dec 31, 2014
asalimpo:


a threat or a warning which?
You can freely leave God just as u can freely leave a secure zone but if ur warned tht danger awaits outside ,is tht a threat?
Stop gettg it twisted.
You cant freely leave satan or one of his phony hell-traps (false religions.) the devil aint no diplomat.

Try leavg islam.
Try leavg JW.
Try leavg the mafia.
Try leavg this eck thing.


Chief Judge ..... Who Condemn muslims, call atheist fools , mock JW's , disregard catholics ,

Haba ! I can see its only you that hav the truth ..... So YOU ARE IN THE BEST POSITION TO ANSWER MY QUESTION!

QUESTION

According to the scriptures .... Where did Adam go when he dies ??

4 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by Boss13: 10:38pm On Dec 31, 2014
If only the world can stop the nonsense of My religion is better than yours, this world will be a better place.

4 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by michaelwestern(m): 10:55pm On Dec 31, 2014
benodic:

my dear olaadegbu,

you really made me laugh this night. i didn't know you were such a funny guy. i saw your post and i said what in heaven's name is olaadegbu doing disseminating info about ECKANKAR and how does he even know anything about ECKANKAR. so i went straight to your link and had another laugh.

you see there is one thing you have to understand. we in ECKANKAR simply do not care about any negative info or any name calling levelled at us by anybody or any group. the energy you spend castigating another religion is best spent contemplating on GOD. the mystery surrounding God is so enourmous and mankind over the ages has grappled with it, which resulted in many religions being practiced on earth today.

nobody has monopoly over truth. the test of any religion at the end of the day is in how has it made your life better. how has it brought love for God and your fellow man into your heart. love at the end of the day is the key to heaven and by their fruits you will know them.
it is mentality like yours that is causing the chaos on earth today, people leave the truth and pursue shadows and spend more time inflating their egos by proclaiming that their God is bigger than yours. really?

so my dear if you like continue your bashing, it doesn't take anything away from what ECKANKAR is. The Religion of the Light and Sound Of God. the light and sound being the manifestation of the Holy Spirit which when it comes into your life makes you a new being filled with love and bent on only carrying out the will of God. it is a life to live and not an argument to be argued about.

those who are interested in getting the correct information about ECKANKAR can go to the website: www.eckankar.org. ECKANKAR is also on facebook. if you have questions you want to ask an Eckist, you can go to the thread-https://www.nairaland.com/533844/contemplation-seeds-eckankar and drop your question there.

thanks



Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by Ranchhoddas: 2:41am On Jan 01, 2015
honeychild:


objection please!
what are you objecting? What does disfellowshiping mean?

2 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by benodic: 11:45am On Jan 01, 2015
@ michaelwestern

do you know Jesus Christ?

3 Likes

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by BetterChurch: 5:26am On Apr 19, 2016
benodic:
@ michaelwestern

do you know Jesus Christ?

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:56am On May 18, 2016
chieveboy:


ECK means Holy spirit, Ankar:...the way= Eckankar=the way/path of the Holy spirit.

Holy spirit is in English...more like a description of a certain spirit the English man had'nt grasp yet--an adjective. ECK is the age old name for the the Life force aka Holy spirit.

Did you say that this 'certain spirit' is a life force? If so then it is different from the Personality that is the Holy Spirit. For the Holy Spirit is a Person.
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by chieveboy(m): 10:30am On May 20, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Did you say that this 'certain spirit' is a life force? If so then it is different from the Personality that is the Holy Spirit. For the Holy Spirit is a Person.

If you observe properly, "certain spirit" as used here connote the English man's lack of proper nomenclature for the Eck-- the Holy Spirit..."it is a Holy Ghost"...they know there are spirits, good ones, bad ones, holy ones...

If you say the Life force and the Holy Spirit are different, then it's only a matter of differences, ignorance our experiences and understanding of the subject matter ( The Holy Spirit).
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by Nobody: 1:11pm On May 20, 2016
chieveboy:


If you observe properly, "certain spirit" as used here connote the English man's lack of proper nomenclature for the Eck-- the Holy Spirit..."it is a Holy Ghost"...they know there are spirits, good ones, bad ones, holy ones...

If you say the Life force and the Holy Spirit are different, then it's only a matter of differences, ignorance our experiences and understanding of the subject matter ( The Holy Spirit).
stop lying. The eck is not the same as the biblical holy spirit in operation.
Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by BetterChurch: 4:43pm On May 20, 2016
timonski:

stop lying. The eck is not the same as the biblical holy spirit in operation.

No difference between the ECK and the Holy Spirit. It's to be experienced not talked about.

1 Like

Re: ‪What Is Eckankar? Is It A Cult, A Religion, Part Of The Occult? by chieveboy(m): 9:27pm On May 22, 2016
[quote author=timonski post=45800086]

My brother, if there is anything to stop, it is this argument as it wont help either of us nor anyone.

In Eckankar, we always query the Eck--the Holy Spirit regarding any confusion or matters we need better clarification on...The Bible rightly exerts that the Holy Spirit is the source of All truth! so consult with 'your version of the Holy Spirit'...no problem...and find out. Your religious 'level' does not matter in as much as you made the inquiry in honesty and humility.

I think that is what you and anyone doubting that should do. If you are ready for the truth, you should get your answers regarding whether Eckists and Christians are both referring to same Holy-Spirit...you can do so about any other issue too be it on religion, science, relationships etc. Thanks.

(1) (2) (Reply)

House On The Rock: Why Our Pastor Mounted Pulpit With AK-47 / Our Mother Is Not A Witch; Children Of Woman "Who Fell From The Sky",Say. Photos / Guys, Beware Of Demon-possessed Ladies Out There

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 112
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.