Been wondering. Is Badmus English, Muslim or Yoruba?

Badmus
Bhadmus
Badamasi
Gbadamosi


pick your preference.

MetaPhysical:
Badmus
Bhadmus
Badamasi
Gbadamosi
pick your preference.

So Badmus is from Gbadamosi. Interesting. Sounds like pure Anglicisation. I wonder if them old folks in the villages will recognise it.

Can you help me with this one? Coker - is it a Yoruba name? Thank you.

what kinds of questions are these?

tpia6:
what kinds of questions are these?

I would have thought that was obvious. Ok, let me explain it for you.

Different languages take different tones and these names don't sound Yoruba. They don't even sound Niger-Congo. In fact, they sound English. Yet it appears only Yoruba people are seen or heard to bear them. Hence I'm wondering if they're Yoruba names or not. Thank you.

badmus,gbadamosi, historical piece.

Babangida's middle name is Badamasi, also a derivative of this.

there is a myth that connects IBB to Ogbomosho, how true it is I don't know.

People says the name Gbadamosi is rooted in this place.

meanwhile, there is a premordial link between the Ogbomosho and the Ibariba (Niger).

Ogbomosho omo af'ogoja.

Great people.

JuanDeDios:


I would have thought that was obvious. Ok, let me explain it for you.

Different languages take different tones and these names don't sound Yoruba. They don't even sound Niger-Congo. In fact, they sound English. Yet it appears only Yoruba people are seen or heard to bear them. Hence I'm wondering if they're Yoruba names or not. Thank you.

Coker, Cole and Dasilva are all Saro names.

These names are from southern America (Brazil) brought back by Sierra-Leonian-Yorubas returning (to Lagos and Abeokuta) after the abolition of slave trade.

The Cokers are to be found among the Egbas. One of the patriarch of the Coker family was an Islamic scholar among the Egbas in the 19th century or so.

Another reputable Saro in Ogun state with colonial authority was Seriki Abass.

A story around that name (coker) is this:

Coker and another Yoruba scholar were vying to become chief imam of Egba or so.

So it is said that Coker ask if the man is truly an Egba man going by the apparent Ibadan/Oyo tribal mark on his cheeks?

His contender ask him in return to explain if the name Coker is anyway traceable to a Yoruba root.

that's what I've learn somewhere.

2prexios:


Coker, Cole and Dasilva are all Saro names.

These names are from southern America (Brazil) brought back by Sierra-Leonian-Yorubas returning (to Lagos and Abeokuta) after the abolition of slave trade.

The Cokers are to be found among the Egbas. One of the patriarch of the Coker family was an Islamic scholar among the Egbas in the 19th century or so.

Another reputable Saro in Ogun state with colonial authority was Seriki Abass.

A story around that name (coker) is this:

Coker and another Yoruba scholar were vying to become chief imam of Egba or so.

So it is said that Coker ask if the man is truly an Egba man going by the apparent Ibadan/Oyo tribal mark on his cheeks?

His contender ask him in return to explain if the name Coker is anyway traceable to a Yoruba root.

that's what I've learn somewhere.

Thank you.

I knew names like Smith, Williams, Da Costa, Da Silva, Cole, etc., were mostly brought in by returnee slaves and are English and Portuguese names. Coker puzzled me because it doesn't sound Potoki and I have never heard of a non-Yoruba person who bears it. If anybody knows the name's origin I'd appreciate it. Is it English or Portuguese or Dutch or Indonesian?

I do not think the name Coker was from Brazil. It's an English, not a Brazilian (Portuguese) name. It seems to me that prexios' comment confuses two groups of returnees: the Brazilian returnees (the Aguda or the Amaro) and the Sierra Leonean returnees (the Saro).

The Aguda had been slaves in South America and had acquired Portuguese names thus. Most Saro were descendants of captives rescued from slave ships and resettled in Sierra Leone where they were christianized and given an English education and English names. Saros were never slaves in South America.

Portuguese names like daSilva, Pedro etc came with the Aguda. English names like Cole, Coker, Johnson etc came with the Saro.

names like buhari, fatai, bakare, abubakar, Muhammad, karriem, Yusuf, Lawal, Ismaili, Kabiru, Yakubu e t c, people think that they are gotten from the arabs through slavery and what not, Wrong- we gave arabs their names.

Names like Pedro, da-silva, salvadore, Alfonso, e tc are all original black people's name and they are all Muslims. this are the names of the original moors that civilized europe. Spanish is a moors language.

All the african name are all derived from this arabic names/middle eastern name, it sound different but they are of the same meaning. They are names of the book of life.

Islam was not brought to us by no white skin arab, we gave Islam to them to give them a civilization. christianity is not ours, we have nothing to do with that. Jesus was not a christian. Jesus grew up in Egypt amongst black people, that is why in Africa, we were so quick to accept him. Jesus is also amongst name like Pedro, Alfonso, Da-silva etc. Jesus De Pandera was a son of Joseph De Pandera.

names like Johnson, moore, griffin, etc are meaningless and are not by any means from the black people.

So what you're saying is the English names are meaningless and the non English ones meaningful.

find me one, do not mix middle eastern names with english names. you mean names like acton, adolf, africa, bathany, malcome, weatherman, macregor, kidman, bush, etc. if you have one for a surname, change it!

tpia6:
So what you're saying is the English names are meaningless and the non English ones meaningful.

gatiano:
names like buhari, fatai, bakare, abubakar, Muhammad, karriem, Yusuf, Lawal, Ismaili, Kabiru, Yakubu e t c, people think that they are gotten from the arabs through slavery and what not, Wrong- we gave arabs their names.
Names like Pedro, da-silva, “salvadore.”, Alfonso, e tc are all original black people's name and they are all Muslims. this are the names of the original moors that civilized europe. Spanish is a moors language.
All the african name are all derived from this arabic names/middle eastern name, it sound different but they are of the same meaning. They are names of the book of life.
Islam was not brought to us by no white skin arab, we gave Islam to them to give them a civilization. christianity is not ours, we have nothing to do with that. Jesus was not a christian. Jesus grew up in Egypt amongst black people, that is why in Africa, we were so quick to accept him. Jesus is also amongst name like Pedro, Alfonso, Da-silva etc. Jesus De Pandera was a son of Joseph De Pandera.
names like Johnson, moore, griffin, etc are meaningless and are not by any means from the black people.

Hmmmm, i love that name.

I do not think the name Coker was from
Brazil. It's an English, not a Brazilian
(Portuguese) name. It seems to me that
prexios' comment confuses two groups of
returnees: the Brazilian returnees (the
Aguda or the Amaro) and the Sierra Leonean returnees (the Saro). The Aguda had been slaves in South
America and had acquired Portuguese
names thus. Most Saro were descendants
of captives rescued from slave ships and
resettled in Sierra Leone where they were
christianized and given an English education and English names. Saros were
never slaves in South America.

You are right radoillo. You are such a keen, forthright and unbiased writer. I always love your wit and prose brother.

[quote author=Radoillo post=28190485]I do not think the name Coker was from Brazil. It's an English, not a Brazilian (Portuguese) name. It seems to me that prexios' comment confuses two groups of returnees: the Brazilian returnees (the Aguda or the Amaro) and the Sierra Leonean returnees (the Saro).

true.

he needs to be more original in his posts.

The Aguda had been slaves in South America and had acquired Portuguese names thus. Most Saro were descendants of captives rescued from slave ships and resettled in Sierra Leone where they were christianized and given an English education and English names. Saros were never slaves in South America.

Portuguese names like daSilva, Pedro etc came with the Aguda. English names like Cole, Coker, Johnson etc came with the Saro.

that's possible.

the Portuguese were also very active in (west) Africa since around the 16th and 17th centuries. They may have had descendants from their activities at that time, although no one knows for sure, and in addition, any such descendants might have migrated elsewhere or been absorbed into the general populace since then.

Coker could also be French, it depends. However, why is the op asking all these questions and why not enquire from people who bear these names since he says he met them.

Radoillo:
I do not think the name Coker was from Brazil. It's an English, not a Brazilian (Portuguese) name. It seems to me that prexios' comment confuses two groups of returnees: the Brazilian returnees (the Aguda or the Amaro) and the Sierra Leonean returnees (the Saro).

The Aguda had been slaves in South America and had acquired Portuguese names thus. Most Saro were descendants of captives rescued from slave ships and resettled in Sierra Leone where they were christianized and given an English education and English names. Saros were never slaves in South America.

Portuguese names like daSilva, Pedro etc came with the Aguda. English names like Cole, Coker, Johnson etc came with the Saro.

I think Aguda is specific to Cuba, not sure if Brazilian as well.

as per Saro, some of them look mixed though, were they all from the slave ships? Or maybe some were not.

Obadimu was turned to Badmus. I now remember that, so are a lot of other names like Ajose- Joseph etc

remember that from?

FROM A YORUBA ELDER WHO WROTE ABOUT ETYMOLOGY OF MOST BIBLICAL NAMES AND COSMOLOGICAL BEGINNING. ACCORDING TO HIM, A LOT OF WORDS, NOT JUST NAMES WERE CHANGED BY INTERMIXING CONSONANT IN PLACE OF VOWELS AND VICE VERSA, ALSO ADDING LETTERS UNTO WORDS.
EXAMPLE; AKU WAS TURNED INTO YAKUB BY ADDING Y AND B AND LATTER CHANGING THE U INTO O , CHANGING THE "J" FROM "Y" TURNS IT INTO JACOB.
ESHU BY ADDING "Y" AND "A" MAKES IT YESHUA ....

tpiander:
remember that from?

JuanDeDios:


I would have thought that was obvious. Ok, let me explain it for you.

Different languages take different tones and these names don't sound Yoruba. They don't even sound Niger-Congo. In fact, they sound English. Yet it appears only Yoruba people are seen or heard to bear them. Hence I'm wondering if they're Yoruba names or not. Thank you.

they're probably found along the coast as well, you can check the previous responses on the thread.

from your user id, are you latin American?

gatiano:
FROM A YORUBA ELDER WHO WROTE ABOUT ETYMOLOGY OF MOST BIBLICAL NAMES AND COSMOLOGICAL BEGINNING. ACCORDING TO HIM, A LOT OF WORDS, NOT JUST NAMES WERE CHANGED BY INTERMIXING CONSONANT IN PLACE OF VOWELS AND VICE VERSA, ALSO ADDING LETTERS UNTO WORDS.
EXAMPLE; AKU WAS TURNED INTO YAKUB BY ADDING Y AND B AND LATTER CHANGING THE U INTO O , CHANGING THE "J" FROM "Y" TURNS IT INTO JACOB.
ESHU BY ADDING "Y" AND "A" MAKES IT YESHUA ....

The Arabic Yaqoub,whence Yakubu came from,was derived from Hebrew Yakov,i.e Jacob.
Do get your bearings right and quit smoking that thing,it's messing up your brain.
Modified:
There's no J in the Hebrew alphabet,even now.It's still Yakov.J,as an alphabet,was the last to be added to the English letters

Arabic or Aramaic preceeds hebrew, and the hebrew of today is not even the old one. What did Jesus call God?

Dhugal:

The Arabic Yaqoub,whence Yakubu came from,was derived from Hebrew Yakov,i.e Jacob.
Do get your bearings right and quit smoking that thing,it's messing up your brain.

gatiano:
Arabic or Aramaic preceeds hebrew, and the hebrew of today is not even the old one. What did Jesus call God?

Arabic preceded Hebrew?.That stuff must be really strong,get off it.It's not doing you any good.

Arabic and Aramaic preceeded Hebrew. Jesus called God "Alah" in Aramaic language. You can check it up. Hebrew as we know it today is not more than 500 years old.

Dhugal:

Arabic preceded Hebrew?.That stuff must be really strong,get off it.It's not doing you any good.

It is not an original Yoruba word. It's very easy to identify authentic Yoruba words. All words must end with a vowel and there are no consonant clusters.

Folks, is Gbadamosi an authentic Yoruba name? Does it have a meaning in the Yoruba language?

gatiano:
Arabic and Aramaic preceeded Hebrew. Jesus called God "Alah" in Aramaic language. You can check it up. Hebrew as we know it today is not more than 500 years old.

Jesus did not call God "Alah",anywhere.Rather the clear instance we know where he called out to God,and that not lost in translation,he used "Elohi",My God.
Common name for the Supreme Being in Hebrew is Elohim/Eloha,while His revealed name according to Jewish and religious texts is Yahweh.
Allah,as we have in Arabic today,is the name of the Quareshi moon-god,equated to the Hebrew Eloha.
You seem to be confusing Yiddish for Hebrew,they aren't the same
Once again I'll advise,get off that stuff you've been smoking.

Radoillo:
Folks, is Gbadamosi an authentic Yoruba name? Does it have a meaning in the Yoruba language?

Gbadamosi has no meaning in Yoruba,it is the Yorubanized version of northern Badamasi,which itself is borrowed from Badmus or the Arabic version of it.

MetaPhysical:
Badmus
Bhadmus
Badamasi
Gbadamosi


pick your preference.

What does Gbadamosi mean?

Without a doubt, we all know Jesus spoke the aramiac language. And the aramaic word for God is Alah and even Alaha.

According to wiki via google: It is generally agreed that Jesus and his disciples primarily spoke Aramaic, the common language of Judea in the first century AD, most likely a Galilean dialect distinguishable from that of Jerusalem.[1] The towns of Nazareth and Capernaum in Galilee, where Jesus spent most of his time, were Aramaic-speaking communities.[2]

Another wiki source- The Jewish Palestinian Aramaic, also called Judean Aramaic and Galilean Aramaic, was a Western Aramaic language spoken by the Jews in Roman and Byzantine Palestine in the early first millennium. The language is very much similar to Hebrew, and is notable for being that spoken by Jesus (see Language of Jesus).[2]

The question now is what is the Aramiac word for God?

Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/;[1] Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤˈlˤɑːh] ( listen)) is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh, literally "the God".[2][3][4] The word has cognates in other Semitic languages, [b]including Elah in Aramaic, ʾĒl in Canaanite and Elohim in Hebrew.[5][6][/b]
They have changed it a little, It used to be Alah.

Elohim is a group of Blackmen and Blackwomen(God) whose head or leader is Yahweh from Yahwehu. Each of them can be called Eloah.
The full meaning of Yahweh is Ya-Ba-Hwehu which simply mean Emperor of the non-black race.

Go read and do research. Arabic preceeded Aramaic, they both Preceeded Hebrew or Canaanite language of today. The oldest languages are all in Africa, yet are not the first or the second 12 languages which are also from Black people.

Dhugal:

Jesus did not call God "Alah",anywhere.Rather the clear instance we know where he called out to God,and that not lost in translation,he used "Elohi",My God.
Common name for the Supreme Being in Hebrew is Elohim/Eloha,while His revealed name according to Jewish and religious texts is Yahweh.
Allah,as we have in Arabic today,is the name of the Quareshi moon-god,equated to the Hebrew Eloha.
Once again I'll advise,get off that stuff you've been smoking.

Dhugal:

Jesus did not call God "Alah",anywhere.Rather the clear instance we know where he called out to God,and that not lost in translation,he used "Elohi",My God.
Common name for the Supreme Being in Hebrew is Elohim/Eloha,while His revealed name according to Jewish and religious texts is Yahweh.
Allah,as we have in Arabic today,is the name of the Quareshi moon-god,equated to the Hebrew Eloha.
You seem to be confusing Yiddish for Hebrew,they aren't the same
Once again I'll advise,get off that stuff you've been smoking.

Lah in arabic simply means god while Al means The ,
Al lah means The God which is a suggestion that Allah is The Main God . This is a pure linguistic point and I do not hereby express any opinion on religion
Before Mohammed in Mecca there were many lahs(gods) and Mohammed came with his teaching that there is only one god TheGod =Allah