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Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by mukina2: 6:13pm On May 18, 2009
she too fight tongue tongue
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 8:25pm On May 18, 2009
You are in the wrong section. Don't you know we don't do tribalism here?

Anyways your opinion is worth less than a rat's shit!

No Moderator should talk this way embarassed embarassed
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by biina: 8:39pm On May 18, 2009
michelin89:

If this is the problem then I can't be of help. I have never taken credit for that thread and I am not interested in doing so. In my initial post I stated boldly that the original thread was being closed and I also gave reasons. If segoye2 is more worried about the copyright rather than the fact that the thread still exists, I myself doubt the importance he gives to that thread.

Does is matter who the first poster is or our (the admin and mine) intention to preserve that thread and give the chance to the Yorubas of this forum to have a meeting zone?

Anyways I'll speak to the admin and ask if he can merge segoye's first post to the current thread, although I personally don't see any issue at hand.
The question is not on if you took credit for the thread, but rather a case of adopting best practices and discouraging plagiarism. One of the short comings of the Nigerian society is our low valuation of intellectual property, that has often killed innovation.

As to addressing the issue itself, I dont think it requires an elaborate solution like merging segoye2's original post with the new thread . Simply editing the first post with a statement saying  that the old thread was created by segoye2, and providing a link to the old thread(s), should suffice. For example

This is a continuation of the 'If You Can Speak Yoruba, Talk It In Here!' thread (created by segoye2) .

The old thread(s) is/are available at (in chronological order)

1. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-48547.0.html
2.
3.


It should be like referencing a book or an article in a report.
It would be a step forward if a similar approach is adopted in future cases.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 18, 2009
biina:

The question is not on if you took credit for the thread, but rather a case of adopting best practices and discouraging plagiarism. One of the short comings of the Nigerian society is our low valuation of intellectual property, that has often killed innovation.

As to addressing the issue itself, I dont think it requires an elaborate solution like merging segoye2's original post with the new thread . Simply editing the first post with a statement saying  that the old thread was created by segoye2, and providing a link to the old thread(s), should suffice. For example

This is a continuation of the 'If You Can Speak Yoruba, Talk It In Here!' thread (created by segoye2) .

The old thread(s) is/are available at (in chronological order)

1. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-48547.0.html
2.
3.


It should be like referencing a book or an article in a report.
It would be a step forward if a similar approach is adopted in future cases.


Uff I have already noticed the admin and I'll inform you of his decision.

Anyways I don't understand why you are playing his advocate. tongue
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by biina: 9:13pm On May 19, 2009
michelin89:

Uff I have already noticed the admin and I'll inform you of his decision.

Anyways I don't understand why you are playing his advocate. tongue
Is there a time frame in which to expect a response/resolution from you or the admin?
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by segoye2(m): 1:49pm On May 20, 2009
Don't worry
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 2:29pm On May 20, 2009
biina:

Is there a time frame in which to expect a response/resolution from you or the admin?

There is no time frame. Sorry

@ segoye

I am sorry but I can't read that essay. All the same I want to let you know no one has claimed any copy right over your thread. I have sent a message to the admin, so all we can do is wait.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 2:37pm On May 20, 2009
@ segoye

I can do very little to adjust the situation but all I can do at the moment is copy and paste your original post in the current thread.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by queenTG(f): 2:59pm On May 20, 2009
Michellin89 u removed my topic why? are u not living in Italy or are u one of them tongue
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 3:02pm On May 20, 2009
queenTG:

Michellin89 u removed my topic why? are u not living in Italy or are u one of them  tongue

Your topic was moved to Tribalism and Co.

click here ----> https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-274400.0.html

Why did you jump to the conclusion that I am one?  grin I dey enjoy my poverty jare.

Jokes aside: your thread is so full of hatred and it's not even acceptable as a topic. I suggest you create a topic which leaves the opportunity to other members to express their view about the issue, without being so mean and insensitive.

You might discover truths that were unknown to you.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by queenTG(f): 3:12pm On May 20, 2009
michelin89:

Your topic was moved to Tribalism and Co.

click here ----> https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-274400.0.html

Why did you jump to the conclusion that I am one?  grin I dey enjoy my poverty jare.

Jokes aside: your thread is so full of hatred and it's not even acceptable as a topic. I suggest you create a topic which leaves the opportunity to other members to express their view about the issue, without being so mean and insensitive.

You might discover truths that were unknown to you.
     

okay, but this na reality about Italy's life isn't? I'm not from nija then we can't talk about tribalism but if it is that way u guys are taking it ,then I'm sorry about that
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 3:18pm On May 20, 2009
queenTG:



okay, but this na reality about Italy's life isn't?

That's not the issue. Whether it's a reality or not you must address every topic with a bit of diplomacy. As you open that thread now nor dey surprise when the majority of people go hate on you, simply for the way you expressed yourself.

In case you wish to see other threads about that topic, check the links below.

What Is It About Edo Girls?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-91344.0.html

Too Many Bini Girls In Europe! Why?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-10009.0.html
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by queenTG(f): 3:21pm On May 20, 2009
okay dear thanks
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 3:37pm On May 20, 2009
queenTG:

okay dear thanks

You are more than welcome. Don't hesitate to use this tool again whenever you need clarifications.

PS: we moderators can delete topics so when you see your topic is missing, it must have been moved to a different section. On this account you can use this link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=248968;sa=showPosts

It shows all the posts you have made till date.

That way you always know the whereabouts of your threads and posts.

Good day!
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by NegroNtns(m): 4:30pm On May 20, 2009
Michelin,

I know what the rules say but I have a complaint against a post that is not protected by the rule. I suggest that the attached video is deleted or the post moved out of culture into some other room where it is appropariately okay for homosexuals to interact.

Thanks.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-274473.0.html#msg3896349
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 6:16pm On May 20, 2009
Negro_Ntns:

Michelin,

I know what the rules say but I have a complaint against a post that is not protected by the rule. I suggest that the attached video is deleted or the post moved out of culture into some other room where it is appropariately okay for homosexuals to interact.

Thanks.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-274473.0.html#msg3896349

Thanks for notifying me. I have moved it to Sexuality where I think homosexuality belongs.

smiley
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by segoye2(m): 7:33pm On May 20, 2009
Is hopeless seeing you deleting my comments, am tired of Nairaland and am taking my leave for good; as am not sure where this would lead to
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 7:49pm On May 20, 2009
segoye2:

Michelin89,

Forget any explanation you got, the essay wasn't meant for you in the first place. So, let it be. As you can see, I had got my work back and believe it or not, you can keep the new copy. I also, had copied about116 pages of the old thread for a comic book review here in clapham for blacks, so, your stake had been yours. Am sick at sending you replies as you had problems coping with people's opinion. Your soldier habit will sooner or later create problems for you. So, at this note, let segoye be!

Keep your royalty and let me have my silent peace.

Also, notify Seun Osewa that I already got antidote to my claims. So, since you know how to send quicker mails, go ahead and tell him I said I got no problems with NOBODY!

Uh? Ok.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by segoye2(m): 2:10pm On May 21, 2009
Thanks, I accept my faults!
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 2:11pm On May 21, 2009
@ segoye

I went through your posts and found out that for the past year you have never posted anything on that thread. And the new thread was created 5 months ago but it's now you have realized your rights have been usurped.

I feel all this while you have been making fun of me because I am not here to play and I take this moderating very seriously. So as for me you had no right to claim ownership over a thread you have neglected for the past one year.

It's the same thing about parents. You don't give birth to a child, abandon him and then come back years later to claim he is yours. Give birth, grow and nurture. And with this I am through.

I even regret taking your request into consideration.

angry angry angry angry
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by biina: 5:49pm On May 21, 2009
michelin89:

@ segoye

I went through your posts and found out that for the past year you have never posted anything on that thread. And the new thread was created 5 months ago but it's now you have realized your rights have been usurped.

I feel all this while you have been making fun of me because I am not here to play and I take this moderating very seriously. So as for me you had no right to claim ownership over a thread you have neglected for the past one year.

It's the same thing about parents. You don't give birth to a child, abandon him and then come back years later to claim he is yours. Give birth, grow and nurture. And with this I am through.

I even regret taking your request into consideration.

angry angry angry angry
His rights are for starting the thread, and he does not need to participate in the thread to ensure those rights. Even if he passes away, his intellectual rights should not be violated. After all, you would not say Newton or any other past scientist do not have rights to their scientific contributions, simply because they did not utilize those laws themselves or failed to teach it to others.

I am a bit perplexed to the reasons why this issue is yet to be resolved. You say that your intention was not to abduct segoye2's brain child, and yet you are reluctant to edit the first post with the appropriate references. Rather, you have decided to place the issue at the doorstep of the admin. The fact that the issue at hand is a common practice is quite saddening, as it doesn't speak well to values of the admin, mods, and general users on NL, and in turn reflects badly on the Nigerian populace.

The new thread as it is, is (intentional or not) simply an act of plagiarism. If you disagree with that statement, the followup test questions are simply
1. whose idea was the original thread?
2. Has due credit been given to him in the new thread?
The honest answers to these questions would verify the earlier statement.

As a person, I really don't care about the thread. What I am interested in is improving the norms and practices of NL and the Nigerian society. It behooves one who knows to educate those that don't, cause if there is no law, then there is no sin. Plagiarism should be shunned in all forms.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 5:54pm On May 21, 2009
biina:

His rights are for starting the thread, and he does not need to participate in the thread to ensure those rights. Even if he passes away, his intellectual rights should not be violated. After all, you would not say Newton or any other past scientist do not have rights to their scientific contributions, simply because they did not utilize those laws themselves or failed to teach it to others.

I am a bit perplexed to the reasons why this issue is yet to be resolved. You say that your intention was not to abduct segoye2's brain child, and yet you are reluctant to edit the first post with the appropriate references. Rather, you have decided to place the issue at the doorstep of the admin. The fact that the issue at hand is a common practice is quite saddening, as it doesn't speak well to values of the admin, mods, and general users on NL, and in turn reflects badly on the Nigerian populace.

The new thread as it is, is (intentional or not) simply an act of plagiarism. If you disagree with that statement, the followup test questions are simply
1. whose idea was the original thread?
2. Has due credit been given to him in the new thread?
The honest answers to these questions would verify the earlier statement.

As a person, I really don't care about the thread. What I am interested in is improving the norms and practices of NL and the Nigerian society. It behooves one who knows to educate those that don't, cause if there is no law, then there is no sin. Plagiarism should be shunned in all forms.

Whatever blina, I am no more interested in this matter.

angry I am very upset with him.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 5:59pm On May 21, 2009
@ blina

Today I was over Muki's neck pleading her to make an operation so that the original post was still conserved, but then I was very disappointed to know I was fighting for someone who wasn't even serious about his thread.

If all he is interested in is his name on a thread let it be. I have copied and paste his original post in the new thread and that's all I can do. I wonder why members think they can make capricious demands when they themselves aren't holding on to their responsibilities.

I am very upset and disappointed and to me, this matter is no more an issue.

Thank you for trying to help but at this point you needn't any longer.

Good day!
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by biina: 6:22pm On May 21, 2009
michelin89:

Whatever blina, I am no more interested in this matter.

angry I am very upset with him.
Its disappointing that segoye2's posts have not been too cordial (though your responses also didn't help). Hopefully both sides would be willing to exchange apologies and move on.

Thanks for the edit to the new thread. Additionally, a link to the old thread would be appreciated.

I hope this grows to be part of the process of recreating threads in the future, as it would be a shame to revisit this issue every time another user has similar grievances.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 6:35pm On May 21, 2009
biina:

Its disappointing that segoye2's posts have not been too cordial (though your responses also didn't help). Hopefully both sides would be willing to exchange apologies and move on.

Thanks for the edit to the new thread. Additionally, a link to the old thread would be appreciated.

I hope this grows to be part of the process of recreating threads in the future, as it would be a shame to revisit this issue every time another user has similar grievances.


Blina, you did all you can but at this point let's let the sleeping dog lie. I think all of us are fed up of this issue.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 10:25pm On May 21, 2009
segoye2:

Micheling89,

I forgive you! Moreso, I have nothing against you. So, if you want to be a friend, kindly send me your apology.

I don't give a damn about you or your stupid thread and whatever you got I am taking it back. That thread won't have any connection with you and if you want to die over some stupid nonexistent copy right do that.

I won't miss you.

PS: shove my apology up your ass!
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by NegroNtns(m): 10:58pm On May 21, 2009
Michelin, Thank you dear. wink
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 3:08pm On May 22, 2009
Negro_Ntns:

Michelin, Thank you dear. wink

You are more than welcome. cheesy
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by segoye2(m): 4:15pm On May 29, 2009
Thanks for deleting my replies!
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by Nobody: 5:20pm On May 29, 2009
segoye2:

@ Biina,

I really appreciate your comments, I had been off Clapham Common on official assignment and had got no enough time to post any reply on NL. Am glad you have a conscience. Nigeria needs just 10 of your type to make a new change.

@ Michelin89,

Yes, I had left that thread for about a year now, and yet, the tread is moving, you have had thread authored on NL, how many of them had attracted a thousand posts? Just a reference? Check the history of my threads as I believe you would have and see if you have reasons to nail me to the cross as you are doing right now.

I have stated this somewhere in my recent replies that I need no claim on the thread nomore. So, why not let it be just the way you want it?

I also, want to tell you that, before I signup for NL user account, I had written over 100 articles on other Nigeria Forum, listing from Politics, African Struggles, Frank talks and lots. All these articles are not stolen from me; not one.

Copyright law covers 50 years after the death of the author. So, your claim here is baseless. Am tired of this whole issue as everyone already know who the bad guy is, so lets pin a stop to it. I like people that are sincere; I mean people that can protect peoples rights, and that I have seen in you.

Sincerely, I know you are doing your job. I mean a job that has kept you off peoples opinion.

I also have nothing against you as am not sure what qualification you got to know if you are right or not. I mean no insult here, please.

Moreso, the order of the day in Nigeria had shown that 89 percent of its nationals are fraudsters, am sorry, but am trying to quietly say wikipedia got the whole story right. So, if we are rebranding, we must show the world what we are rebranding. Is a shame we nurture such elements in Africa and Nigeria. Come to US or U.K and try steal people' work in the name of fun, you either get shot or get jailed.

Keep this, 'latai serig ju lem'.

Am still your friend !



Who cares??
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by tpiah: 6:03pm On Jun 08, 2009
btw, if your finger is still on that delete button go right ahead.
Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by deltalife(m): 6:18pm On Jun 08, 2009
Delta na where life dey, :na where ppl dey shine their eyes pass for this we contry.
Now here I am , wellcoming my self to naira land

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