God is Supreme and He Alone Is One but how come some Christians call Jesus God When the Bible never said so. Below is my take with references from the Holy Scriptures;

I Saw In The Night Visions, And, Behold, One Like The Son Of Man (Jesus Christ) Came With The Clouds Of Heaven, And Came To The Ancient Of Days (God Almighty Father, Yahweh), And They Brought Him Near Before Him. (Daniel 7: 13)
The Revelation Of Jesus Christ, Which God (Yahweh, Jehovah) Gave Unto Him, To Shew Unto His Servants Things Which Must Shortly Come To Pass; And He Sent And Signified It By His Angel Unto His Servant John: (Revelation 1:1)

Jesus Said Unto Them, If God Were Your Father, Ye Would Love Me: For I proceeded Forth And Came From God (Yahweh); Neither Came I Of Myself, But He Sent Me. (John 8: 42) How Come Trinitarians Are Preaching Three Gods With Equal Powers And Strength When The Bible Never Said So. What Do You Believe? Bible Never Calls Jesus As God Almighty But Calls Him Only Begotten Son Of God Who Is Subservient To God Almighty And Was Sent By God To Redeem All Mankind To God Almighty By The Shedding Of His Precious Blood As Instructed By The Ancient Of Days.

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You need the help of the holy ghost to understand the deep things of God, is not sth u go to theological school or mere reading it.

Jesus is God the son not God the father and both are equal in status, but Jesus don't count on it( just like twins childrend that you can hardly differentiate).

Also while on earth he made it clear to us as a father and son relationship, which are clear in all the example he gave and demonstrated

Fredmatic:
You need the help of the holy ghost to understand the deep things of God, is not sth u go to theological school or mere reading it.

Jesus is God the son not God the father and both are equal in status, but Jesus don't count on it( just like twins childrend that you can hardly differentiate).

Also while on earth heade it clear as a father and son relationship, which are clear in all the example he gave and domonstrated.

What is the origin of the doctrine of the Trinity and trust me it's not Biblical. The Nicene Creed under Ceaser Flavinus Constantine gave you trinity doctrine and not the Bible. How come Jesus is God?

Fredmatic:
You need the help of the holy ghost to understand the deep things of God, is not sth u go to theological school or mere reading it.

Jesus is God the son not God the father and both are equal in status, but Jesus don't count on it( just like twins childrend that you can hardly differentiate).

Also while on earth he made it clear to us as a father and son relationship, which are clear in all the example he gave and demonstrated

The father and the son has never been equal in status that explains why Jesus always pray to the father while he was on earth.

Then maybe you should try and explain John 1:1 to me.

tomakint:


What is the origin of the doctrine of the Trinity and trust me it's not Biblical. The Nicene Creed under Ceaser Flavinus Constantine gave you trinity doctrine and not the Bible. How come Jesus is God?

I'm a Muslim, praise be to God.

Those who claimed Jesus is also God use The Bible as reference too. The only thing is that those verses they brought as evidence to support their claim were not convincing.

The only thing Trinity is about is JUST BELIEVE IN IT, WHETHER YOU UNDERSTAND OR NOT.

May God who created you and I lead you to the true way and religion of Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Jacob, Issac etc.

ShadowFighter:
Then maybe you should try and explain John 1:1 to me.

And did John equate Christ as God (Yahweh) in equal measure? May be you need to understand and read John 14: 28. While at that, try to explain what Jesus Christ was saying here when he was defending his Relationship with God here to the Jews in John 10: 30-38 and tell me the final answer Jesus gave especially when he quoted Psalms 82 verse 6 to support while he said he and his Father are one also read up the whole book of Revelations chapter 5 to understand the simple analogy in this topic. May God help us not rewrite the Bible.

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tomakint:


And did John equate Christ as God (Yahweh) in equal measure? May be you need to understand and read John 14: 28.

I asked you a question and you are refering me to John 14:28?
John said, the Word (Jesus) was with God (Yaweh) in the beginning and the Word (Jesus) was God (Yaweh). So can you explain this or not?

ShadowFighter:


I asked you a question and you are refering me to John 14:28?
John said, the Word (Jesus) was with God (Yaweh) in the beginning and the Word (Jesus) was God (Yaweh). So can you explain this or not?

Did John 14: 28 looked like an occultic verse to you? Is it not from the same Bible? You pick a verse out of thousands to argue when in actual sense the John 1:1 you cited never equate God as Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ have a Father you and I called God (Yahweh) whom only requires worship and whatever Jesus Christ enjoyed on earth as form of worship was exposed and foretold to us in Revelations chapter 5. Read and understand.

tomakint:


You pick a verse out of thousands to argue when in actual sense the John 1:1 you cited never equate God as Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ have a Father you and I called God (Yahweh) whom only requires worship and whatever Jesus Christ enjoyed on earth as form of worship was exposed and foretold to us in Revelations chapter 5. Read and understand

No, not only John 1:1, several other scriptures talks about the Trinity. Col. 2:9 for example.

ShadowFighter:


No, not only John 1:1, several other scriptures talks about the Trinity. Col. 2:9 for example.

I guess you should study more on the origin of the Doctrine of Trinity and please stop those verses in the Bible supporting it, what you have are more if linking verses in the Bible to support the Doctrine but no where will you see any verses supporting TRINITY

Several parts in the bible talks about the Trinity. You can't just dismiss it b'cause you don't like it or it doesn't suit you.

The baptisimal formula in Matt. 28:19, ''Go ye therefore, and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is a clear indication of the Trinity.

Even the Creation of man uses plural tearms. Gen 1:26, '' And God said, Let US make man in OUR own image....

ShadowFighter:
Several parts in the bible talks about the Trinity. You can't just dismiss it b'cause you don't like it or it doesn't suit you.

The baptisimal formula in Matt. 28:19, ''Go ye therefore, and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is a clear indication of the Trinity.

Even the Creation of man uses plural tearms. Gen 1:26, '' And God said, Let US make man in OUR own image....

I ask you again did you care to know the origin of trinity and what it stands for? I guess you don't know, let me help you:


"What occurred at the Council of Nicea?"

Answer: The Council of Nicea took place in AD 325 by order of the Roman Emperor Caesar Flavius Constantine. Nicea was located in Asia Minor, east of Constantinople. At the Council of Nicea, Emperor Constantine presided over a group of church bishops and other leaders with the purpose of defining the nature of God for all of Christianity and eliminating confusion, controversy, and contention within the church. The Council of Nicea overwhelmingly affirmed the deity and eternality of Jesus Christ and defined the relationship between the Father and the Son as “of one substance.” It also affirmed the Trinity—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were listed as three co-equal and co-eternal Persons.

Constantine, who claimed conversion to Christianity, called for a meeting of bishops to be held in Nicea to resolve some escalating controversies among the church leadership. The issues being debated included the nature of Jesus Christ, the proper date to celebrate Easter, and other matters. The failing Roman Empire, now under Constantine’s rule, could not withstand the division caused by years of hard-fought, “out of hand” arguing over doctrinal differences. The emperor saw the quarrels within the church not only as a threat to Christianity but as a threat to society as well. Therefore, at the Council of Nicea, Constantine encouraged the church leaders to settle their internal disagreements and become Christlike agents who could bring new life to a troubled empire. Constantine felt “called” to use his authority to help bring about unity, peace, and love within the church.

The main theological issue had always been about Christ. Since the end of the apostolic age, Christians had begun debating these questions: Who is the Christ? Is He more divine than human or more human than divine? Was Jesus created or begotten? Being the Son of God, is He co-equal and co-eternal with the Father, or is He lower in status than the Father? Is the Father the one true God, or are the Father, Son, and Spirit the one true God?

A priest named Arius presented his argument that Jesus Christ was not an eternal being, that He was created at a certain point in time by the Father. Bishops such as Alexander and the deacon Athanasius argued the opposite position: that Jesus Christ is eternal, just like the Father is. It was an argument pitting trinitarianism against monarchianism.

Constantine prodded the 300 bishops in the council make a decision by majority vote defining who Jesus Christ is. The statement of doctrine they produced was one that all of Christianity would follow and obey, called the “Nicene Creed.” This creed was upheld by the church and enforced by the Emperor. The bishops at Nicea voted to make the full deity of Christ the accepted position of the church. The Council of Nicea upheld the doctrine of Christ’s true divinity, rejecting Arius’s heresy. The council did not invent this doctrine. Rather, it only recognized what the Bible already taught.

The New Testament teaches that Jesus the Messiah should be worshipped, which is to say He is co-equal with God. The New Testament forbids the worship of angels (Colossians 2:18; Revelation 22:8, 9) but commands worship of Jesus. The apostle Paul tells us that “in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9; 1:19). Paul declares Jesus as Lord and the One to whom a person must pray for salvation (Romans 10:9-13; cf. Joel 2:32). “Jesus is God overall” (Romans 9:5) and our God and Savior (Titus 2:13). Faith in Jesus’ deity is basic to Paul’s theology.

John’s Gospel declares Jesus to be the divine, eternal Logos, the agent of creation and source of life and light (John 1:1-5,9); "the Way, the Truth, and the Life" (John 14:6); our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1-2); the Sovereign (Revelation 1:5); and the Son of God from the beginning to the end (Revelation 22:13). The author of Hebrews reveals the deity of Jesus through His perfection as the most high priest (Hebrews 1; Hebrews 7:1-3). The divine-human Savior is the Christian’s object of faith, hope, and love.

The Council of Nicea did not invent the doctrine of the deity of Christ. Rather, the Council of Nicea affirmed the apostles’ teaching of who Christ is—the one true God and the Second Person of the Trinity, with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

"Who was Constantine the Great?"

Answer: Constantine the Great (AD 280—337) was one of Rome’s most powerful and successful emperors and the first to self-identify as a Christian. He is known for his economic, political, and military achievements, as well as his religious reforms. Medieval writers praised him as the ideal ruler, against whom all kings were measured. Over time, his reign was viewed with waning enthusiasm. Historians also began to debate how committed Constantine was to Christianity or how devoutly he actually followed it. Constantine was influential in Christian history for his personal faith, religious politics, issuing the Edict of Milan, and calling the Council of Nicea.

Constantine was the son of a Roman official and his Christian concubine. This placed him in line to succeed the throne of the Western Roman Empire. At age 31, he prepared to attack his chief rival with an army outnumbered 4-to-1. Before the battle, Constantine claimed to have seen a vision of Jesus, with a specific symbol, telling him, “By this sign, conquer.” Constantine ordered his troops to mark their shields with this symbol, the Chi-Rho, then a symbol commonly representing Christianity. The Chi-Rho combines the first two letters in the Greek word for “Christ” and resembles a capital P with an X drawn through the spine. Constantine’s forces routed the enemy, and he became emperor. The Chi-Rho symbol would be part of Constantine’s personal signature for the rest of his life.

As emperor, Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, which declared Roman citizens free to worship whatever gods they chose. The Edict of Milan ended longstanding persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire. At that time, Constantine did not (yet) claim to be a Christian himself, nor did he advocate for an official state religion. Based on his continued use of certain pagan symbols, scholars believe Constantine’s early religion was generally theistic, rather than specifically Christian. His boldness in using Christian language grew during his reign. After assuming control of the entire Roman Empire, he built lavish churches and came to openly espouse Christianity.

During Constantine’s reign, controversy arose over the teachings of Arius, who denied the full divinity of Jesus. Constantine called a meeting of Christian bishops, the Council of Nicea, to settle the dispute. Contrary to popular myth, this meeting did not discuss the canon of the Bible, nor was Constantine influential in the council’s decisions. Emperors saw themselves as responsible for promoting “correct” forms of worship; Constantine’s interest was not to declare orthodoxy but to let the bishops determine it so that he could enforce it. Further, Constantine was not known for his philosophical ability and found himself lost in deeper discussions of theology. Rather, he acted as the council’s mediator and host, roles at which he excelled.

Constantine’s Christian faith has frequently been critiqued, if not questioned outright. On one hand, he made great strides in securing political and social rights for Christians and initiating general humanitarian reforms. He poured time and money into building churches and publicly supporting Christianity. Particularly toward the end of his reign, Constantine vocally professed faith in Christ and credited his success to God. He was baptized shortly before his death, according to the common practice of his time.

On the other hand, Constantine continued many pagan practices, including veneration of the sun. His interest in Christian orthodoxy was motivated primarily by a desire to maintain social order. There are also reasons to suspect that Constantine was as ruthless toward rivals as prior emperors had been. One of his sons, a brother-in-law, and his second wife were executed for reasons still unknown. He freely blended pagan practices with Christian beliefs, leading scholars to suggest his public adoption of Christianity might have been a savvy political move, linking him to a rising social force in the Roman Empire.

Ultimately, whether Constantine was a committed Christian, a shrewd, Christian-friendly politician, or something in between is an open question. Without doubt, he ended centuries of persecution and greatly enhanced the social standing of Christianity. He committed resources to churches and Christian education, and his leadership helped to clarify important Christian doctrines. However, Constantine’s actions resulted in some negative complications. Free from persecution, the church naturally attracted more false converts. The melding of Christian themes with secular politics set a pattern that contributed to later disasters such as the Inquisition and the Crusades. Constantine’s blending of pagan, building-and-priest-centered worship with Christianity also contributed to the rise of Roman Catholicism.

Constantine’s legacy is complex and not wholly understood, but he stands as one of the dominant figures in Christian history. Without doubt, his influence transformed Christianity from a persecuted minority into the eventual state religion of the Roman Empire and the most widespread faith in history.

@ShadowFighter this is not the time to be quiet please educate me. Lalasticlala, OAM4J kindly help us push this to front page

Interesting read and topic indeed

tomakint:
@ShadowFighter this is not the time to be quiet please educate me. Lalasticlala, OAM4J kindly help us push this to front page

Well according to you, it isn't bible based, so arguing with you is a lost course.

Isaiah's prophecy also affirms to this. Isa. 9:6,7 accords to Christ all titles of God including the ''The Mighty God''.

Now, why will Isaiah call Christ ''The Mighty God'', if He isn't? Was Isaiah insane?

ShadowFighter:


Well according to you, it isn't bible based, so arguing with you is a lost course.

Ok then farewell

ShadowFighter:
Isaiah's prophecy also affirms to this. Isa. 9:6,7 accords to Christ all titles of God including the ''The Mighty God''.

Now, why will Isaiah call Christ ''The Mighty God'', if He isn't? Was Isaiah insane?

The Bible doesn't starts and ends in Isaiah we have 66 books in all, why are you picking one or two that supports your claim because you were told it is. Did you bother to read up the origin of trinity at all. Christ quoted Pslm 82:6 that's yes, "ye are gods (talking about us humans)" . Christ gave a perfect debates on why he is God in John 10: 30 -38 which is quite different from your Trinity doctrine yet you don't wanna learn. I wish you safe journey

tomakint:


The Bible doesn't starts and ends in Isaiah we have 66 books in all, why are you picking one or two that supports your claim because you were told it is. Did you bother to read up the origin of trinity at all. Christ quoted Pslm 82:6 that's yes, "ye are gods (talking about us humans)" . Christ gave a perfect debates on why he is God in John 10: 30 -38 which is quite different from your Trinity doctrine yet you don't wanna learn. I wish you safe journey

You see why I said it's a lost course?

Here you are throwing stones at me saying I don't want to learn, but do you?

tomakint:


What is the origin of the doctrine of the Trinity and trust me it's not Biblical. The Nicene Creed under Ceaser Flavinus Constantine gave you trinity doctrine and not the Bible. How come Jesus is God?

What are u saying ? Didn't u ready that part of the bible where Jesus said baptise them in the be of the fsther , son and holy spirit? Forget those your history just follow the simple part of truth.
Also read john1, 1-5 your will kn while Jesus is God

Kennywills7:

The father and the son has never been equal in status that explains why Jesus always pray to the father while he was on earth.

Like I said pray the holy spirit who is the teacher of all truth to reveals the truth to you while reading the bible.
I don't have to type much

Fredmatic:

What are u saying ? Didn't u ready that part of the bible where Jesus said baptise them in the be of the fsther , son and holy spirit? Forget those your history just follow the simple part of truth.
Also read john1, 1-5 your will kn while Jesus is God

I keep wondering where the issue or debates of "Jesus Christ Equal God Almighty should be debated" when Jesus Christ already addressed that issue in John 10: 30-38; 

30. I and my Father are one.
31.  Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33. The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35. If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36. Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37. If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Looking at Christ's own defense here is just ok for anyone who wants to learn that Christ never addressed himself as "God" but always call himself "Son of God" as seen in verse 36 where he countered the wrong insinuation by the Jews when they wrongly accused him of making himself "God" in verse 33.

I have heard some Pastors and teachers of the Holy Scriptures saying Jesus Christ was the same as "I AM THAT I AM" and even linked that to what Jesus said before the Jews in John 8: 58 when he said, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." which to me is barbaric and unscriptural. 

Some even take John 1: 1-5 as meaning Jesus Is God the Father when it is very clear here the word God here is what Jesus Christ said in John 10: 34; "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" here Christ was quoting Psalms 82:6; "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." here Jesus was trying to make the Jews realized that if mere men (mortals) are referred to as god then how much him that came from God, sanctified and ordered to be the Word of God to mankind cannot address himself as "Son of God"? (John 10: 35-36). 

If you are going with the Doctrine of Trinity as saying Jesus is of equal status as God Almighty then you are rewriting the Bible which should not be seen with someone professing Christ as his personal Lord and Saviour. Reflect on this, if Jesus is of equal status and form with God then why does the Bible say this; "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" (Deuteronomy 6:4) and you wondered why Jesus said the followings; 
"You have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If you loved me, you would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." (John 14:28); "16. And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17. And he said unto him, Why do you call me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19: 16 -17) you can study; Mark 10: 17-18, Luke 18: 18-19. It is very simple Jesus Christ gave all respect to His Father in Heaven as the only God that is Good and not even Him for he always "reverence His Father". I don't think it would be appropriate to say "a God is showing reverence to another God" which is clearly what you are insinuating. Jesus also said this about His God, my God, your God whom we worship; "But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." (Matthew 24:36). Even the book of Mark 13: 32 was deeper in this; "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."! As you can see if Jesus is God of equal power and form with God he wouldn't have said only God is good nor him accepting the fact that not even him as the "Son" knows the hour when the last days judgment shall come.

I can go on and on where Christ was speaking and not his Apostles now but him talking about his status with God which I believe you can relate to but let me stop here because I know as an Holy Spirit- filled reader of the Bible you can be guided by the Spirit of Wisdom and Truth to know more about Jesus Doctrine which is Divine and Doctrines of Men which is sensual. Take care and God bless you.

tomakint:
God is Supreme and He Alone Is One but how come some Christians call Jesus God When the Bible never said so. Below is my take with references from the Holy Scriptures;

I Saw In The Night Visions, And, Behold, One Like The Son Of Man (Jesus Christ) Came With The Clouds Of Heaven, And Came To The Ancient Of Days (God Almighty Father, Yahweh), And They Brought Him Near Before Him. (Daniel 7: 13)
The Revelation Of Jesus Christ, Which God (Yahweh, Jehovah) Gave Unto Him, To Shew Unto His Servants Things Which Must Shortly Come To Pass; And He Sent And Signified It By His Angel Unto His Servant John: (Revelation 1:1)
Jesus Said Unto Them, If God Were Your Father, Ye Would Love Me: For I proceeded Forth And Came From God (Yahweh); Neither Came I Of Myself, But He Sent Me. (John 8: 42)
How Come Trinitarians Are Preaching Three Gods With Equal Powers And Strength When The Bible Never Said So. What Do You Believe? Bible Never Calls Jesus As God Almighty But Calls Him Only Begotten Son Of God Who Is Subservient To God Almighty And Was Sent By God To Redeem All Mankind To God Almighty By The Shedding Of His Precious Blood As Instructed By The Ancient Of Days.

You need the help of the holy ghost to teach you deeper things. There are things that are hidden from humanity which he reveals.( 1 Cor 2:10)

Fredmatic:


Like I said pray the holy spirit who is the teacher of all truth to reveals the truth to you while reading the bible.
I don't have to type much

Bro don't quote the bible wrongly while claiming the holy spirit

Jesus is God in flesh. The mystery of Christ will be forever hidden to mankind and the event that occurred at Gethsemane 2000yrs ago, unless you know the mind of God you can't know...

The first Adam, the bringer of death disconnected man from God, hence there was no means to commune with God except a prophet with hand of God or by his mercies through dreams to individuals... The spirit of God could no longer strive with man.

But the second Adam, the Seed of God whose blood was most sacred to cleanse the sins of man came to bring life(the spirit) and restore the communication link and also to bring men unto God. He walked the streets as a man.
6.who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

[7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: (Philippians 2:6-7)


in verse 6 n 7..It says he had the form of God. This simply means he was God but he wasn't gonna make it obvious yet because he was embodied in flesh. A man cannot be equal with God almighty and he shouldn't be seen as flesh. So he humbled himself and made himself of less importance and glorified God's name(his name in disguise). In verse 8, the Bible says he was humble even unto death on the cross.

All this he did was to draw all men unto to God to worship in spirit n in truth ..." If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me(God)" (John12:32)
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His greatest temptation wasn't in the wilderness but at Gethsemane , the point where he would have chosen to save himself or not.,,His choice would determine the faith of mankind still, just like in the garden..

To cut the story short.... After he died and resurrected the 3rd day.. He was seen by Mary madaglene after her persistence in asking and crying after the messiah despite the angelic visitation. John20:12-17...
when she recognised him and called him master, she tried to touch him but Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. ...

He had not yet presented his blood in holies of holies..because when an animal is slain for sacrifice in the old testament, it's slain outside the Holy Temple and the blood is taken to the Holy ground by the priest for acceptance... Notice the emboldened.. He had not ascended; He hasn't been lifted up according to (john12:32)

By revelation Peter called Jesus the Christ. But when he appeared to Thomas in the closed room with everyone present, he touched the wounded places by his side and the nail holes.. "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

This was after he had ascended and he had been given the Glory he had before creation began and Thomas eyes were opened to see that he was God.. If it was Thomas's God, then it's also Madaglene's God and my God...

Jesus is Lord and God. If two things are one, then its automatically considered to be equal ..According to John 10:30 "I and the father are one".

He said the father was greater than he is in the sense that he was embodied in flesh (he took the form and likeness of man) and his mission wasn't to draw men to worship a man but God. So he denied his divine reputation to Glorify the name of God, And in turn he was Glorified...


Besides, Yesterday was fools day for those that say "there's no God"..

Shalom..

Kennywills7:

Bro don't quote the bible wrongly while claiming the holy spirit

Where was it quoted wrongly?

asuustrike2009:

You need the help of the holy ghost to teach you deeper things. There are things that are hidden from humanity which he reveals.( 1 Cor 2:10)

Pls how do you twist Rev 3:12? As in, who was Christ calling ''my God'' there? Himself?

God is a tripartite being. He is one in three and three in one. To naturally explain it, do this. Take water, put it into three separate containers. Put one in the freezer, boil one portion, and leave the other portion alone. The water in the freezer becomes ice, the water on fire becomes vapor, while you have the remaining one in its natural state as water.

Please, tell me, will I be wrong to say that the water turned ice is the same as the one in the natural state? Will I be wrong to say the water turned vapour is same as the one in the natural state? You see, water existing in three different state, but is one and the same water! However, by existing in three different states, water can perform different functions. But the Supreme among them could arguably be said to be water in the natural state.

God existing as the word (son), enabled Him to come to earth, and still remained in heaven as the Father at the same time. Let's assume it wasn't so, who would have been on the throne when God came down for man?

Another proof is where Jesus answering to a request by Philip to show the disciples the Father said, "... he who have seen me, have seen the Father..." John. 14:9

To not believe the Trinity, is to not believe God.