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What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 6:01pm On Apr 02, 2021
According to 1john5:8,there are 3 things which bear witness on the earth, namely:
Spirit,Water and Blood.
These 3 are one, according to the Bible.

To the Christians,it means that the Holy Spirit, the Blood of Jesus and the Water of baptism are the witnesses.

But how do they bear witness and how are they one?

To the occult world, according to a man who was once a grand master and lived so many times inside the ocean,it means:

If a person drinks the blood of a human being inside the water( like rivers,seas, oceans),his spirit would bear witness that drinking human blood gives him spiritual power.

They quote this verse whenever they want to drink human blood during their meeting inside the water (seas, rivers and oceans)

Of course, the kingdom of Satan tries to give wrong interpretations to all biblical verses.

But as a Christian, what do you understand by this verse?
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:29pm On Apr 02, 2021
7victor:

But how do they bear witness and how are they one?

But as a Christian, what do you understand by this verse?

Did you not hear "that the heavens and the earth fled away from His Presence or the hills clapped their hands, Riches certainly make themselves wings and fly away, the stones will rise up and Praise The Lord?

All creations Are Alive and they Live, thus Spirit, Water and Blood are Truly Living Witnesses to the Truth of Any Fact and they can Testify to the Truth thereof Exactly as man does!
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by Kobojunkie: 7:47pm On Apr 02, 2021
7victor:
According to 1john5:8,there are 3 things which bear witness on the earth, namely:
Spirit,Water and Blood.
These 3 are one, according to the Bible.
To the Christians,it means that the Holy Spirit, the Blood of Jesus and the Water of baptism are the witnesses.
But how do they bear witness and how are they one?
To the occult world, according to a man who was once a grand master and lived so many times inside the ocean,it means:
If a person drinks the blood of a human being inside the water( like rivers,seas, oceans),his spirit would bear witness that drinking human blood gives him spiritual power.
They quote this verse whenever they want to drink human blood during their meeting inside the water (seas, rivers and oceans)
Of course, the kingdom of Satan tries to give wrong interpretations to all biblical verses.
But as a Christian, what do you understand by this verse?

1) The Blood and Water are witnesses to your salvation from Death where those who are saved are instead gifted with eternal life(grace), where in addition to believing in Jesus Christ the following are also expected
a)in order to be saved from Death, one should be baptized in water

Mark 16 vs 15-18 (ERV)
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15. He said to them, “Go everywhere in the world. Tell the Good News to everyone.
16. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. But those who do not believe will be judged guilty.
17. And the people who believe will be able to do these things as proof: They will use my name to force demons out of people. They will speak in languages they never learned.
18. If they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be hurt. They will lay their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
b) in order to be saved from Death, one needs to eat and drink the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ

John 6 vs 47-56 (ERV)
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47. “I can assure you that anyone who believes has eternal life.
48. I am the bread that gives life.
49. Your ancestors ate the manna God gave them in the desert, but it didn’t keep them from dying.
50. Here is the bread that comes down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will never die.
51. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my body. I will give my body so that the people in the world can have life.”
52. Then the Jews began to argue among themselves. They said, “How can this man give us his body to eat?”
53. Jesus said, “Believe me when I say that you must eat the body of the Son of Man, and you must drink his blood. If you don’t do this, you have no real life.
54. Those who eat my body and drink my blood have eternal life. I will raise them up on the last day.
55. My body is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56. Those who eat my body and drink my blood live in me, and I live in them.

Where the blood is the blood of the agreement, the New Covenant, between God and man, poured out for the forgiveness of sins.

Matthew 26 vs 26-29(ESV)
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26. Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.”
27. And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you,
29. for this is my blood of the[c] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
30. I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.”

2. The Spirit is the witness for those who are born again. Now the Spirit resides in those of them who are saved and go on to accept and obey the teachings of Jesus Christ i.e. those who are Sons of God.

John 14 vs 25-31 (ESV)
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15. “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
16. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper,[f] to be with you forever,
17. even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be[g] in you.
18. “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
19. Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
20. In that day you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.
21. Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.”
22. Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?”
23. Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
24. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
25. “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you.
26. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
27. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.
28. You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
29. And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place you may believe.
30. I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me,
31. but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father. Rise, let us go from here.
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 11:32pm On Apr 02, 2021
Kobojunkie:


1) The Blood and Water are witnesses to your salvation from Death where those who are saved are instead gifted with eternal life(grace), where in addition to believing in Jesus Christ the following are also expected
a)in order to be saved from Death, one should be baptized in water

b) in order to be saved from Death, one needs to eat and drink the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ


Where the blood is the blood of the agreement, the New Covenant, between God and man, poured out for the forgiveness of sins.


2. The Spirit is the witness for those who are born again. Now the Spirit resides in those of them who are saved and go on to accept and obey the teachings of Jesus Christ i.e. those who are Sons of God.

Ok sir.

Noted.
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 11:33pm On Apr 02, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Did you not hear "that the heavens and the earth fled away from His Presence or the hills clapped their hands, Riches certainly make themselves wings and fly away, the stones will rise up and Praise The Lord?

All creations Are Alive and they Live, thus Spirit, Water and Blood are Truly Living Witnesses to the Truth of Any Fact and they can Testify to the Truth thereof Exactly as man does!

Noted Sir.
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:53am On Apr 03, 2021
7victor:


Noted Sir.

Grateful to God to be of help!
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by peggywebbs(f): 8:18am On Apr 03, 2021
I'm not sure but I don't think the answer is complicated. This is my opinion on what "spirit, water and blood bear witness on earth" means.

I think that simply means man. We have this three components in us. Our bodies are made up of 75% water, we have blood and spirit. Without these three things we cannot exist.


And we are all witnesses to God almighty as full evidence of his creation. Every living soul is a witness that God truly exists.

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Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 12:15pm On Apr 03, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Grateful to God to be of help!
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 12:16pm On Apr 03, 2021
peggywebbs:
I'm not sure but I don't think the answer is complicated. This is my opinion on what "spirit, water and blood bear witness on earth" means.

I think that simply means man. We have this three components in us. Our bodies are made up of 75% water, we have blood and spirit. Without these three things we cannot exist.


And we are all witnesses to God almighty as full evidence of his creation. Every living soul is a witness that God truly exists.

O darling.

This is so reasonable.

Thanks.

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Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by Kobojunkie: 12:26pm On Apr 03, 2021
peggywebbs:
I'm not sure but I don't think the answer is complicated. This is my opinion on what "spirit, water and blood bear witness on earth" means.

I think that simply means man. We have this three components in us. Our bodies are made up of 75% water, we have blood and spirit. Without these three things we cannot exist.

And we are all witnesses to God almighty as full evidence of his creation. Every living soul is a witness that God truly exists.
Please go back and Read 1 John 5 vs 6-12. What John wrote of where the witnesses of Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by peggywebbs(f): 2:11pm On Apr 03, 2021
You do realise that's exactly what I said. You should not read deep meanings to everything said in the bible.

The disciples spoke in plain language. You should know that the audience John was speaking to were not educated scholars. They were the local people. He was preaching the gospel in a language they understand.


Water and blood simply means Jesus came as flesh as a man. Everybody has the spirit of God. Now this is different from the holy spirit. It is written that he breathed life into Adam. Everybody has a spirit, we are made up of these three things water, blood and spirit. It is just as simple as it sounds.

Like I said it's just my opinion, I don't the I'm qualified to convince anyone or preach to anybody. I just answered the question of the topic.

Kobojunkie:
Please go back and Read 1 John 5 vs 6-12. What John wrote of where the witnesses of Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by bobestman(m): 2:26pm On Apr 03, 2021
You will understand the Bible a little when you leave Christianity interpretation. Most things you read in the Bible are tenets and rules to maintain law and order thousands of years even before Christianity and other religion came into existence. All religion copied from the ways of life of those ancient people. Thru it they fear and live right with their fellow men and their Creator which is what He requires. Spirituality has nothing to do with religion - Chrislamjew, Man created them. The creator works with your inner man, the His spirit in you. Only it can help you attain perfection and know your purpose on earth. This is why they say " know thyself" It was actually that higher self in you that connects you to the Creator.

The Creator of heaven and earth never told man or anyone to establish any religion to make them come close to him. Since creation, He gave them His spirit which is a little portion of himself to help them reach out to him. Unfortunately, we are on endtime and mortal man has not still know how to connect to that spirit in them before they could have a good relationship with the Creator. This has nothing to do with religion - Chrislamjew and others but your spirit which God Almighty gave you since creation.

To answer your question, Spirit, Water and blood=== Spirit is that same spirit the Sovereign one gave you since creation that connects you and Him. Thru it He knows you and you, Him. It's the spirit of truth that was promised to teach you everything but you must connect with him and know him and even walk with Him before you can truly know who the Creator is.

Water is your mortal body that is 70% water. Its earthly and weak so it dies.

Blood is your Soul. It's another version of you that's deathless. The flesh may die but the soul lives on in another realm until it is given a body and then the Spirit comes to it before it can become a being or earthly person. This is the concept of Incarnation and Reincarnation which religions don't teach cos they don't know. That's how ppl come to earth from the spirit realm but they must be born of a woman. So, when they pierced the one you ppl call Jesus on the cross, blood and water came out cos the spirit is gone, leaving the body and soul.

So they represent the spirit, soul and body and they bear witnesses on earth

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Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by Kobojunkie: 3:03pm On Apr 03, 2021
peggywebbs:

You do realise that's exactly what I said. You should not read deep meanings to everything said in the bible.

The disciples spoke in plain language. You should know that the audience John was speaking to were not educated scholars. They were the local people. He was preaching the gospel in a language they understand.

Water and blood simply means Jesus came as flesh as a man. Everybody has the spirit of God. Now this is different from the holy spirit. It is written that he breathed life into Adam. Everybody has a spirit, we are made up of these three things water, blood and spirit. It is just as simple as it sounds.

Like I said it's just my opinion, I don't the I'm qualified to convince anyone or preach to anybody. I just answered the question of the topic.

John's letters were to an audience of other followers of Jesus Christ, not a bunch of people unwise to the Truth of Jesus Christ. undecided

The Spirit mentioned in John's letter is mentioned not as Man's spirit would be but as the Spirit belonging to Jesus, the Spirit of Truth. He goes on to say that whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself, further suggesting that he is speaking, not of what resides inside of Jesus Christ but of what marks those whom Jesus Christ lives inside of. undecided
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 3:43pm On Apr 03, 2021
From the posts above,I now know what Spirit, Water and the Blood means.

The Spirit is the Holy Spirit, the Water and Blood are what came out of Jesus Christ body when He was pierced on the cross.

The Spirit and the Water fell on the ground and since then, they together with the Holy Spirit have continued to bear witness on the earth that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who loved us and shed His blood and Water to save us,

and to bring us by one Spirit (the Holy Spirit) to God.

As the Bible says: Through Jesus Christ we have access by one Spirit to the Father (God), Ephesians 2:18
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:51pm On Apr 03, 2021
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to join ongoing discussion? smiley

7victor:

According to 1john5:8,there are 3 things which bear witness on the earth, namely:
Spirit,Water and Blood.
These 3 are one, according to the Bible.
To the Christians,it means that the Holy Spirit, the Blood of Jesus and the Water of baptism are the witnesses.
But how do they bear witness and how are they one?
To the occult world, according to a man who was once a grand master and lived so many times inside the ocean,it means:
If a person drinks the blood of a human being inside the water( like rivers,seas, oceans),his spirit would bear witness that drinking human blood gives him spiritual power.
They quote this verse whenever they want to drink human blood during their meeting inside the water (seas, rivers and oceans)
Of course, the kingdom of Satan tries to give wrong interpretations to all biblical verses.
But as a Christian, what do you understand by this verse?
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 4:13pm On Apr 03, 2021
peggywebbs:

You do realise that's exactly what I said. You should not read deep meanings to everything said in the bible.

The disciples spoke in plain language. You should know that the audience John was speaking to were not educated scholars. They were the local people. He was preaching the gospel in a language they understand.


Water and blood simply means Jesus came as flesh as a man. Everybody has the spirit of God. Now this is different from the holy spirit. It is written that he breathed life into Adam. Everybody has a spirit, we are made up of these three things water, blood and spirit. It is just as simple as it sounds.

Like I said it's just my opinion, I don't the I'm qualified to convince anyone or preach to anybody. I just answered the question of the topic.


Even the Bible says that everyone who believes has the witness in himself.

What you said earlier is true.

Every truth from the Bible can be seen in every circumstance and from all angles.

It doesn't mean that when we have a new understanding of a biblical verse, that the previous understanding is wrong.

All our understandings are correct provided they were all illuminated by the Holy Spirit.

Our body has water and blood.

We then have our spirit.

If we believe in Jesus Christ,we have the witness in ourselves since the whole of us will testify.

That means our spirit,water and blood will witness to the truth that Jesus Christ is our saviour.

The meaning of that verse is widespread just as a verse you read today with a specific understanding could be illuminated tomorrow so that you see another angle to it.

That is the work of the Holy Spirit: To illuminate us always, because just like a living water, the word of God is always news and alive.

It cannot be stagnant.

We take new meaning every time we read it because it is alive, flowing like water.

Just like a spot in a river that you fetch water,if you get back there tomorrow, the water there has rushed pass, and it is another part of the water that you would meet there.

So is the word of God.

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Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 4:21pm On Apr 03, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to join ongoing discussion? smiley


Please join us.
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:10pm On Apr 03, 2021
7victor:

Please join us.

The early Christians need to continue constantly reassuring themselves that they have the truth as in God's approval.
God's word said when the Messiah (Christ) walks through the land of Israel, the people will feel the presence of their God whose mighty works of old is known far and wide.
Messiah (Christ) means the person whose work will complete the promises God made to Abraham that all the nations of the earth will be blessed through Abraham's seed. That seed will be the Christ.
But Israelites have waited for generations after generations anticipating the coming of this promised Child. God promised that if they failed to recognize the Messiah (Christ) a sign will follow his departure to make them know that the Messiah has come and gone.
God so much love this nation that he promised to send a forerunner who will prepare the way for this promised Messiah, some men declared themselves as Christ but the promises of God never came through in their cases. But by the time Jesus was about to begin his ministry his cousin John the baptist started shouting "get ready for the arrival of the Messiah" he began baptising the people who are ready to accept what the Messiah is coming to do in their midst.
So when Jesus also came to John for baptism HOLY SPIRIT signaled John that this is the person, immediately John told Jesus that he's not supposed to baptise the Messiah rather it's the Messiah that should baptise him. But Jesus said John "let's fulfil all righteousness " {Matthew 3:15} so John baptized Jesus and instantly as Jesus is coming out of the WATER the SPIRIT landed like a dove on Jesus' head and God spoke from heaven! Matthew 3:17
The Messiah according to God's promise will take away the sin of all people {Daniel 9:24} and God's laws has made Israelites know that for sin to be washed away a blood Sacrifice must take place. After Jesus' BLOOD was shed on the torture stake, God's son declared "Mission Accomplished" {John 19:30} and he died!

So let everyone know that the three EVIDENCES confirming that our hope for everlasting life is sure has been fulfilled!
The
SPIRIT the WATER and the BLOOD! these three are in agreement in the sense that Jesus' the chief cornerstone upon which our faith is built passed through all the three. Therefore everlasting life is certain for all those exercising faith in the name of our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! John 3:16

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 6:07pm On Apr 03, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


The early Christians need to continue constantly reassuring themselves that they have the truth as in God's approval.
God's word said when the Messiah (Christ) walks through the land of Israel, the people will feel the presence of their God whose mighty works of old is known far and wide.
Messiah (Christ) means the person whose work will complete the promises God made to Abraham that all the nations of the earth will be blessed through Abraham's seed. That seed will be the Christ.
But Israelites have waited for generations after generations anticipating the coming of this promised Child. God promised that if they failed to recognize the Messiah (Christ) a sign will follow his departure to make them know that the Messiah has come and gone.
God so much love this nation that he promised to send a forerunner who will prepare the way for this promised Messiah, some men declared themselves as Christ but the promises of God never came through in their cases. But by the time Jesus was about to begin his ministry his cousin John the baptist started shouting "get ready for the arrival of the Messiah" he began baptising the people who are ready to accept what the Messiah is coming to do in their midst.
So when Jesus also came to John for baptism HOLY SPIRIT signaled John that this is the person, immediately John told Jesus that he's not supposed to baptise the Messiah rather it's the Messiah that should baptise him. But Jesus said John "let's fulfil all righteousness " {Matthew 3:15} so John baptized Jesus and instantly as Jesus is coming out of the WATER the SPIRIT landed like a dove on Jesus' head and God spoke from heaven! Matthew 3:17
The Messiah according to God's promise will take away the sin of all people {Daniel 9:24} and God's laws has made Israelites know that for sin to be washed away a blood Sacrifice must take place. After Jesus' BLOOD was shed on the torture stake, God's son declared "Mission Accomplished" {John 19:30} and he died!

So let everyone know that the three EVIDENCES confirming that our hope for everlasting life is sure has been fulfilled!
The
SPIRIT the WATER and the BLOOD! these three are in agreement in the sense that Jesus' the chief cornerstone upon which our faith is built passed through all the three. Therefore everlasting life is certain for all those exercising faith in the name of our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus! John 3:16

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

What a great revelation.

Thanks.
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23pm On Apr 03, 2021
You're welcome, God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

7victor:

What a great revelation.
Thanks.
Re: What Does This Mean: Spirit,Water And Blood Bear Witness On Earth? by 7victor(m): 8:51pm On Apr 03, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You're welcome, God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley

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