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Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 7:21am On Nov 27, 2021
Many years ago, I was at the NYSC camp in Nonwa, Rivers State. They used to bring in instructors to teach the corpers the cultures, languages, etc, of the indigenous peoples of the state. I remember one instructor (he was probably Ogoni) who was saying something about Oyigbo LGA. Even though no one was arguing with this man, he felt the need to shout at the corpers and other facilitators present: "It is not Obigbo ooo! It is Oyigbo! Igbo people are trying to steal the place and they went there and changed the name..." Then I think he realised that he was letting his Igbophobia show unnecessarily in public, because he now added: "I am sorry to say that."

Now, I don't know much about Obigbo/Oyigbo, but when I looked at the research that has been published on the area, it seems it was founded not too long ago by Igbo immigrants from around Owerri. You can see the works of R. Iorgulescu for this. In one of the papers she co-authored, a sentence simply states, "In 1958, villagers from Umuluwe together with other migrants searching to earn cash income founded Obigbo in the oil rich coastal areas of southeast Nigeria." [https://www.utgjiu.ro/revista/ec/pdf/2007-01/3_Raluca%20Iorgulescu%20Polimeni.pdf]

Below is a screenshot from the PhD thesis of respected Ogoni historian, Sonpie Kpone-Tonwe (1987, University of London). Everywhere the word appears in the thesis (it appears 4 times), it is written as Obigbo; never as Oyigbo. Note that this was written by an Ogoni scholar; and not an Igbo. Note also that this was written post-Biafra War (1987), so one couldn't say that Igbo predominance in Eastern Region influenced him to follow 'Igbo orthodoxy' and write Obigbo. If anything, this was a period in which the minorities were asserting themselves.

Kpone-Tonwe suggests, based on Ogoni traditions, that Obigbo is a mixed bag of Eleme and Igbo elements. But the ethnic composition is not really the point of my enquiry, but whether or not the place was originally Oyigbo, before the Igbo people 'went and changed the name'.

Is there any document preceding 1987 that has the name written as Oyigbo? I'd really like to know.

NB: This post is just me seeking to be informed. I don't pretend to know anything about this area.

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by neonly: 7:44am On Nov 27, 2021
Alaba at ojo in Lagos comes to my mind the name has been change to alaaba but why
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 1:05pm On Nov 27, 2021
neonly:
Alaba at ojo in Lagos comes to my mind the name has been change to alaaba but why

Alaba has been changed to Alaaba? Since when? Who else knows about this?
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by neonly: 1:19pm On Nov 27, 2021
RedboneSmith:


Alaba has been changed to Alaaba? Since when? Who else knows about this?


Maybe it d pronounciation sha
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by ChinenyeN(m): 4:59am On Nov 28, 2021
We can trace the change from Obigbo to Oyigbo and not the other way around. In 1979, Melford Okilo was elected as governor of Rivers State. It's stated that in order to decentralize the economy and not make P.H. the central economic place in Rivers state, his administration commissioned the establishment of several new "economic towns". As part of that commission, a town was also supposed to be created from land acquired/leased from the "Obigbo" migrant settlement area.

This general information is found in several sources printed between 1979 and 1985.

In 1981 (I think; this may need to be double-checked), the Rivers State Progress Reports (that were used to record the progress of developing these new towns), lists "Oyigbo". These progress reports were part of the effort to satisfy the requirements of the Third National Development Plan.

The African Guide Company published its article in 1983 and noted Oyigbo as the name of the new town from "Obigbo".

The West Africa Publishing Company Ltd also published a simliar article the year before (1982) in which they noted "Oyigbo formerly Obigbo" (directly quoted from the article).

The dates for these publications (among others) allows us to be relatively confident that the change occurred during the Okilo adminitration (and perhaps was the direct decision of the Okilo administration).

RedboneSmith:
Is there any document preceding 1987 that has the name written as Oyigbo? I'd really like to know.

So to answer your final question, yes. There is documentation showing the name written as "Oyigbo" before 1987. I don't know when "Oyigbo" was documented for the first time, but since we know the role of the Okilo administration in catalyzing this change, we can infer that no documentation of "Oyigbo" existed before 1979 (I have yet to find an documented instance of Oyigbo beforehand).

But even up to 1989, locals were very well accustomed with referring to the community as "Obigbo", as that is what the migrant settlers called it (and what everyone consequently called it) since the late 1950s.

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 8:06am On Nov 28, 2021
Comprehensive response, ChinenyeN, thanks a lot.

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 11:54pm On Jan 19, 2022
RedboneSmith:
Comprehensive response, ChinenyeN, thanks a lot.

What a Totally idiotic Thread. The Work of RedboneSmith the Bone Head.

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 12:11am On Jan 20, 2022
Iv never read something this totally chaotic and idiotic. The work of a brainless fool

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 12:14am On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith:
Many years ago, I was at the NYSC camp in Nonwa, Rivers State. They used to bring in instructors to teach the corpers the cultures, languages, etc, of the indigenous peoples of the state. I remember one instructor (he was probably Ogoni) who was saying something about Oyigbo LGA. Even though no one was arguing with this man, he felt the need to shout at the corpers and other facilitators present: "It is not Obigbo ooo! It is Oyigbo! Igbo people are trying to steal the place and they went there and changed the name..." Then I think he realised that he was letting his Igbophobia show unnecessarily in public, because he now added: "I am sorry to say that."

Now, I don't know much about Obigbo/Oyigbo, but when I looked at the research that has been published on the area, it seems it was founded not too long ago by Igbo immigrants from around Owerri. You can see the works of R. Iorgulescu for this. In one of the papers she co-authored, a sentence simply states, "In 1958, villagers from Umuluwe together with other migrants searching to earn cash income founded Obigbo in the oil rich coastal areas of southeast Nigeria." [https://www.utgjiu.ro/revista/ec/pdf/2007-01/3_Raluca%20Iorgulescu%20Polimeni.pdf]

Below is a screenshot from the PhD thesis of respected Ogoni historian, Sonpie Kpone-Tonwe (1987, University of London). Everywhere the word appears in the thesis (it appears 4 times), it is written as Obigbo; never as Oyigbo. Note that this was written by an Ogoni scholar; and not an Igbo. Note also that this was written post-Biafra War (1987), so one couldn't say that Igbo predominance in Eastern Region influenced him to follow 'Igbo orthodoxy' and write Obigbo. If anything, this was a period in which the minorities were asserting themselves.

Kpone-Tonwe suggests, based on Ogoni traditions, that Obigbo is a mixed bag of Eleme and Igbo elements. But the ethnic composition is not really the point of my enquiry, but whether or not the place was originally Oyigbo, before the Igbo people 'went and changed the name'.

Is there any document preceding 1987 that has the name written as Oyigbo? I'd really like to know.

NB: This post is just me seeking to be informed. I don't pretend to know anything about this area.

This is so idiotic only a patient of a mental home could have created this lunacy. There is no start and there is no end. Just lifted from a book. Garbage, Trash, Nonsense.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 12:27am On Jan 20, 2022
Baddest0007:


This is so idiotic only a patient of a mental home could have created this lunacy. There is no start and there is no end. Just lifted from a book. Garbage, Trash, Nonsense.

LMAOooooooo! grin grin grin grin grin grin

Baddest0007 a.k.a. LiberatedGirl (who is not a girl, by the way) a.k.a Sade Johnson got so mad because I told her to get some much-needed help she opened an entire account dedicated to me. Such an honour. grin grin grin grin

This is f'cking hilarious. I'm having a good laugh here. Although I also feel sad and sorry for you, because mental health issues shouldn't be laughed about. Behind that phone/computer I know is a sad, lonely depressed loser battling mental ill-health, and I feel deeply sorry for them. cry cry

Thank you for all the mentions. Please keep them coming. Keep bumping my old threads. Of course I can't reply to all of them, but I appreciate this work you have given yourself this night.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 9:00am On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith:


LMAOooooooo! grin grin grin grin grin grin

Baddest0007 a.k.a. LiberatedGirl (who is not a girl, by the way) a.k.a Sade Johnson got so mad because I told her to get some much-needed help she opened an entire account dedicated to me. Such an honour. grin grin grin grin

This is f'cking hilarious. I'm having a good laugh here. Although I also feel sad and sorry for you, because mental health issues shouldn't be laughed about. Behind that phone/computer I know is a sad, lonely depressed loser battling mental ill-health, and I feel deeply sorry for them. cry cry

Thank you for all the mentions. Please keep them coming. Keep bumping my old threads. Of course I can't reply to all of them, but I appreciate this work you have given yourself this night.

Prof. RedboneSmith you are Clearly an Authority on Igbo and ibo culture, I will like to hear your views on Igbo culture from 1967 - 1970. Can you create a Thread on how Igbo Culture Flourished from 1967 - 1970 ?
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 9:25am On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith why are you so infatuated with a Yoruba Girl ? You're so madly in love with her that you even think I am her. Is that not madness ? I saw you harrasing the woman of my dreams for no bloody reason, a Yoruba Goddess. Are you MAD ? The babe dey her own lane, dey on her own and you are just all over her abusing her to get her attention, trying to control her. Is that what Igbo Culture is about !? Harrasing Women who don't know you exist ? As a Yoruba Man how dare you have the guts to talk to one of my own . You are a SICK MAN. 1967 - 1970 . I joined Nairaland for just one reason alone to give you your own medicine. I have not started. Are You Mad? A Gentle Woman is on her own and you are harrasing her. You are lucky there is no slap this person function on the internet. As the Woman herself said" You Are a Crazy Mad Dog. You are a Disgrace to the Igbo Race. An Outcast.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 10:30am On Jan 20, 2022
All these Igbo Men who can only fight Women on Nairaland. Can you imagine ? A women is minding her business and the Lunatic RedboneSmith is insulting her. Is this IGBO CULTURE? is Igbo Culture about finding defenseless Women to harass, insult, mock. Insulting people who have never been unkind to you. IS THIS IGBO CULTURE ? Lunatic is happy he disturbed a Woman on Nairaland. RedboneSmith is Crazy. A Pretender. A Vulture, A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing . The he is pretending to be the Custodian of Igbo Culture when in reality he is a HYPOCRITE of the Highest Order. I had to join Nairaland to defend a harmless Woman who has harrasessed to the point of Quitting Nairaland. This is the Culture of RedboneSmith a Wicked Soul, a Devil, One who delights in Wickedness and evil.... Pretending to Uphold Igbo Culture. What do I know. Maybe that is Igbo Culture.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 11:30am On Jan 20, 2022
I HaD tO jOiN NaIrAlaNd tO dEfEnD a HaRmLeSs WoMAn. grin grin grin

Knight in shining armour. Sir Baddest of Shit-for-Brains.

Boy, if you don't get the f'ck outta here! grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 1:59pm On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith:
I HaD tO jOiN NaIrAlaNd tO dEfEnD a HaRmLeSs WoMAn. grin grin grin

Knight in shining armour. Sir Baddest of Shit-for-Brains.

Boy, if you don't get the f'ck outta here! grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 2:05pm On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith:
I HaD tO jOiN NaIrAlaNd tO dEfEnD a HaRmLeSs WoMAn. grin grin grin

Knight in shining armour. Sir Baddest of Shit-for-Brains.

Boy, if you don't get the f'ck outta here! grin grin grin grin grin

RedboneSmith Na You Be This ?
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 2:32pm On Jan 20, 2022
grin grin grin grin grin Hewu, Chi m oh! Downloading pictures of Biafran children from 50 years ago to troll Nwa Illah with. This idiot can't even troll right. I don't even come from the area in question. And even if I did, 50 years ago?! grin grin grin grin

You're so retarded you can't even troll right! grin grin grin

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 2:39pm On Jan 20, 2022
Look at a human being's Facebook photo gallery looking like something from a super-weird electronic music video. Is this not severe autism? Even for a catfish account, what sort of mess is this? Go and get help. No be yab I dey yab you. This is coming from a good place: go and get help.

Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 3:11pm On Jan 20, 2022
ShitHole Igbo Man. You Wan F...k Yoruba Girl whey no get your Time. You dey insult person whey dey peaceful Like The Deranged Lunatic that you are. You Are A MAD MAN. Nigger I'm not joking what you did on that Babes Thread is Outter Madness. You need to see a Psychiatrist badly. You Are Truly MAD. The you come to your ShitHole page and start forming cool educated cultured guy. Typical Igbo behavior.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 3:22pm On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith:
grin grin grin grin grin Hewu, Chi m oh! Downloading pictures of Biafran children from 50 years ago to troll Nwa Illah with. This idiot can't even troll right. I don't even come from the area in question. And even if I did, 50 years ago?! grin grin grin grin

You're so retarded you can't even troll right! grin grin grin

Maybe its your father then, looks so much like your dad , the old relic.

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 4:36pm On Jan 20, 2022
Baddest0007:


Maybe its your father then, looks so much like your dad , the old relic.

You want to drag fathers and mothers and families into this? You really want to do that? Think carefully before you answer. Because I too know how to go down that messy road, and trust me I take no prisoners. smiley smiley smiley
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 4:38pm On Jan 20, 2022
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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 4:46pm On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith the Second Class Nigerian. Second Class Lower. Nwa illah.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 4:57pm On Jan 20, 2022
Baddest0007:
Little Southern Piece of Shit. A second Class Nigerian born from second class parents.

grin grin grin

I don't know what Southern Piece of Shit is supposed to mean, but I'm sure its better than being a retàrded kid with a roadside whọ̀re for a mother.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 5:24pm On Jan 20, 2022
Baddest0007:
ShitHole Igbo Man. You Wan F...k Yoruba Girl whey no get your Time. You dey insult person whey dey peaceful Like The Deranged Lunatic that you are. You Are A MAD MAN. Nigger I'm not joking what you did on that Babes Thread is Outter Madness. You need to see a Psychiatrist badly. You Are Truly MAD. The you come to your ShitHole page and start forming cool educated cultured guy. Typical Igbo behavior.

Sade Johnson, a.k.a., LiberatedGirl, a.k.a., Baddest0007, go and take your medicine. Nobody wants to f'ck your stank-ass p'ssy. Take yourself off that mattress, take your medication, fix up your life, and maybe that imaginary boyfriend you keep yapping about may become a reality.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 7:53pm On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith how Are Daddy and Mummy ? Especially Mummy. How is Mummy ?. I'm sorry about her memory loss. Daddy has done very well to cope.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 7:57pm On Jan 20, 2022
Does Daddy still drink alcohol ? He was always trying to stop. I'm sorry Mummy's Memory loss affected you so much. Your mother is a nice woman, light skinned and very short. I'm sorry about her mental disability. Please accept my apology.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 8:02pm On Jan 20, 2022
RedboneSmith Your Daddy should have been more loving to mummy, because he was a Teacher and she was a market woman did not mean she was stupid. Why did Daddy treat Mummy like she was Stupid ? It's not fair the way Your Daddy Treated your mummy. And people called him an educated man. It's very sad indeed. Nwa Illah you have my heart felt sympathy.
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by RedboneSmith(m): 8:30pm On Jan 20, 2022
Can you father even pick out your whọre of a mother in a lineup? Heard he was drunk as hell, and just f'cked the first woman he ran into at the local brothel, and here you are.

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Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 8:32pm On Jan 20, 2022
How is Daddy. the Teacher/ Lecturer ?
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 8:34pm On Jan 20, 2022
I want to know how Daddy is. Iv asked You a Question. How is Daddy ?
Re: Did The Igbo Really Change Oyigbo To Obigbo? by Baddest0007: 8:39pm On Jan 20, 2022
Vote RedboneSmith 2023.

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