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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by DHaran: 2:52pm On Aug 18, 2022
shortIGBOman:


Biafra only consist of 4 IGBO indegineous States. Which are Ebonyi, Imo, Abia and some part of Enugu. Major parts of Enugu and the entire Anambra State are IGALA ancestral Land.
How true is this pls?
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by ednut1(m): 2:53pm On Aug 18, 2022
scholes0:


Check a map please, Yoruba are not more southerly than Igala per se.

Geographically, Yorubaland extend both more Northerly and more Southerly than the reach of Igalas.... Which means you will find Yoruba groups more northerly and more southerly than them.....
osun ogun ekiti are more southwards than kogi
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by vince96w2(m): 2:58pm On Aug 18, 2022
scholes0:
Igala It looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.

Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.

1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.

* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:

Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito

Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe

Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø

Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.

Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu

Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ

Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ

Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona

Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu

Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu

Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi

Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu

Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule

Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo (money) - Oko
Wo (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe

And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat

Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object

Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat

Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity

Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest

Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many

There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala approximately shares only about 64% or so, word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from Idoma according to some research.

With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.

Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply.
You too know book..

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Armaggedon: 3:05pm On Aug 18, 2022
Depending on the area. Igalamela, Ofu, Ogugu, Olamagbaro area are more related to Igbo as dude comfirmed to you.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by mema900: 3:06pm On Aug 18, 2022
eniade07:
I was talking with a colleague an igala man from Kogi state, I later discovered during our conversation that most of their igala words are almost similar to yoruba words. Interestingly, the man told me that they're closer to the south eastern part of the country than the south west.I came across below quotation from wikipedia

"The Yoruba culture was originally an oral tradition, and the majority of Yoruba people are native speakers of the Yoruba language. The number of speakers is roughly estimated at about 30 million in 2010. Yoruba is classified within the Edekiri languages, and together with the isolate Igala, form the Yoruboid group of languages within what we now have as West Africa. Igala and Yoruba have important historical and cultural relationships. The languages of the two ethnic groups bear such a close resemblance that researchers such as Forde (1951) and Westermann and Bryan (1952) regarded Igala as a dialect of Yoruba"

"Also Igáláà is a Yoruboid language. It is spoken by the Igala ethnic group of Nigeria. In 1989 an estimated 800,000 spoke Igala, primarily in Kogi State, though current day estimates estimate upwards of 2 million Igala speakers. Dialects include Idah, Imane, Ankpa, Dekina, Ogugu, Ibaji and Ife. The Igala is related to Yoruba with which it shares a previous common ancestor, it remains unclear when both language split, mutual intelligibility in modern times is only marginal, although the sound/tonal systems remain the same, akin to the relationship between the various daughter languages of the Romance or Slavic language families. The Idoma and Bassa people use Igala in primary schools. The Igala language, as well as Igala culture and tradition, has influenced other languages and cultures around the confluence of the Niger and Benue rivers".

Igala are distant cousin of igbo not yoruba

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by DamianX: 3:08pm On Aug 18, 2022
DHaran:

How true is this pls?

See the person you are quoting and asking isn't it obvious that person doesn't have sense? If you second guess Anambra being a complete Igbo land then you can also believe Lagos and Ondo are Igbo ancestral lands.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by ASAPFERG1: 3:12pm On Aug 18, 2022
Now what the fvck is igala again? undecided
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Igbodicool(m): 3:17pm On Aug 18, 2022
And nobody is shouting land grabbers, attache by force...
Assuming this thread is about Igbo Language and Igala Language, you would have seen densely tribalistic Yoruba wailing around it as if Igbo people ate their afternoon meal.

Always feeling intimidated, inferior and insecure with Igbo.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Jack500: 3:23pm On Aug 18, 2022
Realtalk20:
Why are these people always trying to famz and party with a tribe.

That's how yesterday one of them was telling me that we Bini people are Yoruba and under them. That Oba is under their king..

There is something somewhere.
How can a whole tribe feel so insecure and always want to add other under them?

Sharap! It is igbos that do attache by force not Yoruba

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Igbodicool(m): 3:24pm On Aug 18, 2022
shortIGBOman:


Biafra only consist of 4 IGBO indegineous States. Which are Ebonyi, Imo, Abia and some part of Enugu. Major parts of Enugu and the entire Anambra State are IGALA ancestral Land.
Have you seen what hatred have turned you into?
EBIRA and your narrow mind jumped to BIAFRA.
Continue, you can hate the entire world nobody cares.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by jansonn(m): 3:25pm On Aug 18, 2022
scholes0:
Igala It looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.

Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.

1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.

* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:

Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito

Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe

Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø

Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.

Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu

Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ

Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ

Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona

Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu

Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu

Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi

Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu

Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule

Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo (money) - Oko
Wo (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko

And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat

Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object

Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat

Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity

Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest

Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many

There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.

With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.

Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply.
Wow, this is really nice. Well done

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by darichlife: 3:34pm On Aug 18, 2022
ASAPFERG1:
Now what the fvck is igala again? undecided

It is the most dominant language in Kogi State. In case you don't know.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Chnbanc: 3:35pm On Aug 18, 2022
shortIGBOman:


Biafra only consist of 4 IGBO indegineous States. Which are Ebonyi, Imo, Abia and some part of Enugu. Major parts of Enugu and the entire Anambra State are IGALA ancestral Land.
So onitsha is igalaland?
How about kwara state?
Who are the original owner of kwara land
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by darichlife: 3:37pm On Aug 18, 2022
scholes0:
Igala It looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.

Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.

1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.

* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:

Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito

Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe

Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø

Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.

Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu

Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ

Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ

Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona

Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu

Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu

Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi

Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu

Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule

Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo (money) - Oko
Wo (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko

And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat

Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object

Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat

Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity

Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest

Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many

There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.

With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.

Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply.

The greatest resources in the world is language. Who can prove me wrog

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by seunayantokun(m): 3:39pm On Aug 18, 2022
The Igala and the Yoruba peoples are cousins.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by AlphaTaikun: 3:45pm On Aug 18, 2022
eniade07:
I was talking with a colleague an igala man from Kogi state, I later discovered during our conversation that most of their igala words are almost similar to yoruba words. Interestingly, the man told me that they're closer to the south eastern part of the country than the south west. I came across below quotation from wikipedia

"The Yoruba culture was originally an oral tradition, and the majority of Yoruba people are native speakers of the Yoruba language. The number of speakers is roughly estimated at about 30 million in 2010. Yoruba is classified within the Edekiri languages, and together with the isolate Igala, form the Yoruboid group of languages within what we now have as West Africa. Igala and Yoruba have important historical and cultural relationships. The languages of the two ethnic groups bear such a close resemblance that researchers such as Forde (1951) and Westermann and Bryan (1952) regarded Igala as a dialect of Yoruba"

"Also Igáláà is a Yoruboid language. It is spoken by the Igala ethnic group of Nigeria. In 1989 an estimated 800,000 spoke Igala, primarily in Kogi State, though current day estimates estimate upwards of 2 million Igala speakers. Dialects include Idah, Imane, Ankpa, Dekina, Ogugu, Ibaji and Ife. The Igala is related to Yoruba with which it shares a previous common ancestor, it remains unclear when both language split, mutual intelligibility in modern times is only marginal, although the sound/tonal systems remain the same, akin to the relationship between the various daughter languages of the Romance or Slavic language families. The Idoma and Bassa people use Igala in primary schools. The Igala language, as well as Igala culture and tradition, has influenced other languages and cultures around the confluence of the Niger and Benue rivers".
Insightful.

Read more here: => https://punchng.com/im-first-attah-in-igala-history-with-one-wife-ameh-oboni/
26th August 2017

His Royal Majesty, Dr. Michael Idakwo Ameh Oboni, the Attah Igala, tells GBENGA ODOGUN about his life as the traditional ruler of the Igala.


Would you mind telling us the origin of the Igala people?

Talking about the origin of the Igala people, a sizeable group migrated from Wukari in Taraba State from where they came to Benue along the River Benue and continued very close to the confluence at a place called Amagede by River Benue and slightly down from Amagede downwards to Idah and they settled there. And there, they met a sizeable population of the Yorubas and the Benins and to some extent, some Igbo. So the migrant population from Wukari merged with them and produced a language called Igala as a people.



=> https://punchng.com/buhari-mourns-attah-of-igala/
=> https://www.thecable.ng/ameh-attah-igala-dies-during-operation-in-abuja

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Realtalk20: 3:48pm On Aug 18, 2022
Jack500:

Sharap! It is igbos that do attache by force not Yoruba

Yet this article says otherwise.

Elede
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by shortIGBOman: 3:58pm On Aug 18, 2022
Chnbanc:

So onitsha is igalaland?
How about kwara state?
Who are the original owner of kwara land


You no know before? The entire Anambra na IGALA ancestral Land and the North will soon reclaim it. All the wealthy people in Anambra are Igala. The low class are IGBO who came to hustle from either Imo, Abia or Enugu States. grin grin grin


Read your history

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Chnbanc: 4:01pm On Aug 18, 2022
shortIGBOman:



You no know before? The entire Anambra na IGALA ancestral Land and the North will soon reclaim it. All the wealthy people in Anambra are Igala. The low class are IGBO who came to hustle from either Imo, Abia or Enugu States. grin grin grin


Read your history
What about kwara state...
Who are the real owners of the land?
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Chnbanc: 4:04pm On Aug 18, 2022
Letmakepeace:


Sir please help me i just got a security job yoday and i was to resume tomorrow please i dont have any thing for transport till the month end please help me with little amount to manage till i collect my first salary
Simply meet the management of the company...
Tell them your predicament and collect your salary upfront....
All this Yoruba local scammers on nairaland. Una no wan upgrade una talent
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by shortIGBOman: 4:05pm On Aug 18, 2022
Igbodicool:

Have you seen what hatred have turned you into?
EBIRA and your narrow mind jumped to BIAFRA.
Continue, you can hate the entire world nobody cares.

The thing pain you cause. IGBO indegineous Land no big. Anambra and half of Enugu na IGALA land. The North will soon reclaim it. We go drive una comot for that land grin grin grin

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by AlphaTaikun: 4:05pm On Aug 18, 2022
scholes0:
@OP look at it this way, the closeness btw the aboriginal Igalas (Akpoto) & Yoruba is ancestral. A result of both groups descending from the same ancestors in deep prehistory that is soo old that nobody recorded it. The relationship between Igala & Igbo you friend talks about is as a result of geographical closeness/inter-relationship along border areas & some culture rubbing off each other. There r even igalas in today's SE. So actually, depending on the Igala u ask, there are varying degrees of closeness with neighbors. Some Igalas will tell u they r closest to Agatu/Idoma, some will tell u it is Bassa-Nge/Nupe. These are all location induced relatedness.

Igala looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.

Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.

1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.

* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:

Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito

Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe

Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø

Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.

Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu

Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ

Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ

Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona

Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu

Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu

Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi

Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu

Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule

Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo (money) - Oko
Wo (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko

And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat

Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object

Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat

Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity

Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest

Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many

There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.

With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.

Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply.
Very insightful @Scholes0. I read this 2017 interview with the late Attah Michael Oboni of Igala on how Igala people came into existence and how the migrants from Wukari came along River Benue and merged with Yorubas and Edos to a large extent to form Igala ethnicity/language. Yoruba bloodlines flow in the veins of Igalas hence Yorubas and Igalas are indeed related ancestrally. I also read that Ebiras and Igalas are also related from the same migratory stock from Wukari in present-day Taraba State of Nigeria.

Source: => https://punchng.com/im-first-attah-in-igala-history-with-one-wife-ameh-oboni/

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Madmazel99(m): 4:07pm On Aug 18, 2022
Olu317:

How do you mean Archaic Yoruba ? I will advise you consult extensively before assumption because misleading the public can be infectious. So,kindly do more research than posting submission as this.

Plainly, Igala has never been archaic Yoruba. The Olukwu still speak a dialect of Yoruba being encircled by heavy Ibo speakers.Yet the language cum dialect still retain its Yoruba dialect.

This people had lived in around the era Igala was formed which is over 800 years old and still retain Yoruba dialect . Therefore do not pressume on the Igala language.

So, redirect your research to the fact than asserting such view as "Archaic Yoruba language". The Igala language is not not not "Archaic Yoruba."

Furthermore, the comparison are in some true cognate but exaggeration exist in some areas you thought they same. For instance

There is nothing as Olokunrin or Olobinrin in Yoruba language. Appropriateley, it Okunrin/Ọkunrin or Obinrin/Obiri. Infact, Ajayi Crowther created Arabinrin and Arakunrin which never existed in Yoruba lexicon of ancient times.

Again, the comparison of Igala words with Yorubas still do not have synonymous words for the Yoruba words which differs from Igala's language.

So, kindly take note because all families are in iléifẹ to confirm whoever is telling false positing truth.
Bro, if you want to know about very old Yoruba words. You will have to hear the eastern part of the Yoruba speak their dialects. You will pick so many words that are very very old. Let me give you an example. 'fø' means 'to say' or 'I say'.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Moye04(m): 4:07pm On Aug 18, 2022
vince96w2:
You too know book..
Hahahahaha. I dey tell you. Very explicit delivery!
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by shortIGBOman: 4:10pm On Aug 18, 2022
DHaran:

How true is this pls?

Very true. Igala are the owners of Anambra and half of Enugu. Most of the wealthy men in Anambra are Igala. Including the present Governor.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Moye04(m): 4:10pm On Aug 18, 2022
seunayantokun:
The Igala and the Yoruba peoples are cousins.
Yes. And can one say generally that the Kogi and the Yoruba people have something in common historically? I'm just asking sir
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Osoboshi: 4:15pm On Aug 18, 2022
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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Osoboshi: 4:16pm On Aug 18, 2022
op need to read more about kwararafa kingdom and languages that emanated from it.
Yoruba ke undecided undecided
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Moye04(m): 4:17pm On Aug 18, 2022
scholes0:
@OP look at it this way, the closeness btw the aboriginal Igalas (Akpoto) & Yoruba is ancestral. A result of both groups descending from the same ancestors in deep prehistory that is soo old that nobody recorded it. The relationship between Igala & Igbo you friend talks about is as a result of geographical closeness/inter-relationship along border areas & some culture rubbing off each other. There r even igalas in today's SE. So actually, depending on the Igala u ask, there are varying degrees of closeness with neighbors. Some Igalas will tell u they r closest to Agatu/Idoma, some will tell u it is Bassa-Nge/Nupe. These are all location induced relatedness.

Igala looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.

Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.

1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.

* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:

Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito

Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe

Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø

Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.

Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu

Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ

Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ

Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona

Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu

Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu

Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi

Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu

Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule

Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo (money) - Oko
Wo (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko

And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat

Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object

Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat

Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity

Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest

Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many

There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.

With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.

Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply.
I love this! I really learnt alot from this! Well-done sir.
So can one say generally that the Kogi and the Yoruba people have something in common historically? I'm just asking though because I'm yoruba�
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by seunayantokun(m): 4:17pm On Aug 18, 2022
Moye04:

Yes. And can one say generally that the Kogi and the Yoruba people have something in common historically? I'm just asking sir

Of course. Lots and lots of historical affinity.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by jamace(m): 4:24pm On Aug 18, 2022
DJSNAKE:
Igala was a yoruba who ran away with the princess to far away land.... i will update the full history once i get home
Bro, I am waiting for your story/history.

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