| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by aribisala0(m): 7:49pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Olu317:
Lol. Not my kind of thing. Iam just stating the obvious. I detest conjuring and falsehood. This is suppose to be fact and not assumption.
Perhaps enlighten us Which Family household does Igala belonged to in Iléifẹ̀ ? No you have internal quarrel. This manifests in your relationships with people. Think about it 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Fabulouslouie(m): 7:59pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
I'm Igala by tribe and I must commend the op.
Btw why all the insults seff..
Why not do your own research and counter the op 1 Like |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 8:02pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
LARRYOBRAIN:
Yoruba emerged or existed from Tapa.
Lol...And the language differs the farther you go beyond Niger State    . The Yoruba language is found in Egypt as Coptic during the era of Saint Mark the Abba Mark. The Yoruboid language has existed in their chronicle for over 4000 years. Interestingly the Coptic language is also ligual Franca in Egypt and not Egyptians ancient language. Ifa Corpus has existed thousands of thousands of years before Contact with Tapa. The Tapa is not Yoruba but some are conscripted into Yoruba families in such a way some Ibos, Oyinbos,Hausas, Arabs, Sudanese etc are conscripted into Yoruba families. Ifá says In Òsẹ́ kànràn Òsẹ́ dudu láwó ilé Alárá Òsẹ́ pupa ló ṣé awó ilé Ajèrò..... Transl: Blackskin man is the priest of Alara Lightskin man is the priest of Ajero Tell, where does it show Yoruba came from Nupe/Nufe/Tapa ? My point is that posting information as serious as this ought be with authenticity . Cheers 2 Likes |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Chizzychinny: 8:06pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
AlphaTaikun:
Yeah, the parent ethnic group of Itsekiri people is from Yorubaland. Ijebu, Ife, and Ilaje sub-groups from Yorubaland make up the larger component of Itsekiris. Then Prince Ginuwa also arrived with 70 of his subjects from Benin and settled among the itsekiris of Ijebu origin at Ode-Itsekiri in the 1490s.
Itsekiris and Igalas are the ONLY 2 ethnicities that are classified as Yoruboid, meaning the languages have strong similarities and histories with the core Yoruba language. Yes but I wonder why they're in Delta State. It's kinda complicated. 1 Like |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 8:20pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
scholes0:
Pls stick to what you know, or calm down and stop gettting your panties in a bunch.
I said Igala sounds like heavily modified archaic Yoruba, I never said it is the archaic Yoruba, maybe you have comprehension issues..... If you have any contrary opinions, express it. It is an established fact that the NW Yoruba dialects (Your Oyo, Egba, Ibarapa and co) are the newest and latest evolving Yoruba dialects while the eastern dialects ( your Ekiti, Ufe, Ijebu, Owo, Ondo, Okun of Kogi and co) are the most archaic and stable...
That is why an Igala, Ekiti, Ondo, Itsekiri, Ijesha person will instantly interpret the title of Teni's popular single "Uyo Meyo" without breaking sweat, but your average Lagosian or Ibadan Yoruba will still be asking if that is even Yoruba language.
That is why the vocabulary of Igala is closer to that of the eastern dialects but with heavy mutations due to contact with Idoma and Igbo.
Igala and Olukumi do not belong to the same time period.
All linguists agree that Igala and the modern Yoruba dialects split off from a previous common proto language... so I don't know how any well informed person will be comparing the chronology of Olukumi vis-a-vis Yoruba with that of Igala, which shares a much more antiquated level of relationship.
Ps: Who told you there is nothing like Olokunrin in Yoruba. Stop overreaching yourself please.... or better still, just stick to your dialect and stay there.
And even if that was the case, where exactly are the exaggerations? because apart from that one example out of all those I have listed up there you haven't pointed to any other one.
Check a map please, Yoruba are not more southerly than Igala per se.... it is Nigeria's confusing political geography that makes people think along the lines of ;"Igala are North, Yoruba is South" Or have you forgotten there are Yorubas in the same "Northern" kogi state with the Igalas?
Geographically, Yorubaland extend both more in the Northerly and more in the Southerly directions than the reach of Igalas.... Which means that even within Yorubas, you will actually find Yoruba groups more northerly and more southerly than Igala geographically..... So you can see your hypothesis is already faulty. Lol. Which year did Igala came into existence if you claim their time were different from Olukumi ? 2. Who founded Igala ? 3. Who was the first king in Igala ? If you can answer these above questions,then don't twist your assertion because Ibos,Hausas, Tapa, shared some words with Yorubas aswell. So do not limit your assertion to Igala.Kindly explore beyond the Nigeria's Border. Contrary to your view Arakunrin, Arabinrin is a conceptualisation of Samuel Ajai Crowther. And if you disagree, then at your own peril. The Igala are absolute farmers in the ancient migration into Yoruba land,which neccessitated the knowledge of understanding Yoruba language. Finally, I don't use vulgar words,so no big deal if your intention is to mislead people which cannot go beyond this Site. Albeit, stick to fact and not assumption. This is my submission. 1 Like |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Maryam1234(f): 8:20pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
As an Igala girl myself I can hear Yoruba perfectly,you dare not insult me in Yoruba language.Thanks op you did a good job everything you cited was 100% correct.Its like you're a linguist by profession but,I can bet you don't belong to either of the two ethnic group. 4 Likes |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 8:25pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
aribisala0:
No you have internal quarrel. This manifests in your relationships with people. Think about it Lol just imaging your thought ? There is nothing one will not see on NL Seriously, read through and learn fact not assumption or conjuring information by people who supposed do field reseach and not hypothesis without authencity. There are many people on NL misleading others. Anyway, if you desire falsehood, continue and be fed with it. But I will never see lies being perpetrated by people and have my hands folded. This is practically impossible because light dwells with its glory. Lastly, kindly tell us the Odù in Ifá that established Igala. And if you donot know, ask the person who claims all these invention to clarify the Odù that established Igala. Lobatan |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by EdwardRandy(m): 8:29pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
havenz:
My bae na Igala and she dey speak both Igala and Yoruba very well, now my problem come be say i no even speak not to talk more of understanding both, e just be like say i dey one chance when she dey on phone call but am in love with her though. I've bn in your shoes and the truth is you will always have that suspicion in your mind, especially any day you guys will quarrel and she's on the phone with some guy you don't know. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Maryam1234(f): 8:31pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Olu317:
Lol. Which year did Igala came into existence if you claim their time were different from Olukumi ?
2. Who founded Igala ?
3. Who was the first king in Igala ?
If you can answer these above questions,then don't twist your assertion because Ibos,Hausas, Tapa, shared some words with Yorubas aswell. So do not limit your assertion to Igala.Kindly explore beyond the Nigeria's Border.
Contrary to your view Arakunrin, Arabinrin is a conceptualisation of Samuel Ajai Crowther. And if you disagree, then at your own peril.
The Igala are absolute farmers in the ancient migration into Yoruba land,which neccessitated the knowledge of understanding Yoruba language.
Finally, I don't use vulgar words,so no big deal if your intention is to mislead people which cannot go beyond this Site. Albeit, stick to fact and not assumption. This is my submission. I will advise you open your own thread and educate us the more rather than countering what's already stated.We are eager to learn about the perspectives you're coming from  A friend of mine, called my attention to this thread.She's from Ondo State but Igala by ancestry;she found something interesting about my native name yesterday and she thinks I'm more Yoruba than Igala.I have to let her know that my name Keju is an abreviation of Alikeju,her dad's name is Akeju and her brother abbreviates it as Keju,such a twist. She's telling me I'm bearing her surname Lolz. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by aribisala0(m): 8:32pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Olu317:
Lol just imaging your thought ? There is nothing one will not see on NL
Seriously, read through learn fact not assumption or conjuring information. There are many people on NL misleading you people. Anyway, if you desire falsehood, continue and be fed with it.
But I will never see lies being perpetrated by people and have my hands folded. This practically impossible.
Lastly, kindly tell us the Odù in Ifá that established Igala. Lobatan. You enjoy unprofitable arguments. You have a NEED to be right. All I can do is give you your diagnosis . Go and seek treatment 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 8:49pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Maryam1234:
I will advise you open your own thread and educate us the more rather than countering what's already stated.We are eager to learn about the perspectives you're coming from A friend of mine, called my attention to this thread.She's from Ondo State but Igala by ancestry;she found something interesting about my native name yesterday and she thinks I'm more Yoruba than Igala.I have to let her know that my name Keju is an abreviation of Alikeju,her dad's name is Akeju and her brother abbreviates it as Keju,such a twist. She's telling me I'm bearing her surname Lolz. Well, if I have such strength I can open such thread but I rather inform on truth, which is the reason I read views from some people to correct the anomalies. So, this thread ought be based on truth and not assumption. You see, seeing many false informatin being spread around about certain critical aspect of Yoruba people need stop. Without such falsehood, I will had just read through and enjoy thread without commenting. Anyway, Alikeju that you stated its contraction of Akeju or Keju as you had stated which is a Yoruba name of your friend in Ondo. The name in Yoruba actually means "the pampered" If she says you bear her surname, but do you agree that your surname or name means the pampered ?If not,then both names sound alike but differs in meaning. So enjoy your time with her and I wish both of you the best. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 8:54pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
aribisala0:
You enjoy unprofitable arguments. You have a NEED to be right.
All I can do is give you your diagnosis . Go and seek treatment Says a quack doctor . Anyway, I do not argue but stating fact. I am economical with fact. Had it being the information posted are inline with authenticity ,why will I bother ? I do not seek glory. Inform as it ought be. Perhaps, you need check self for pride because I do not flow based on assumption but fact. And I wonder reason you havent come back to post the Odù that founded Igala. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by akigbemaru: 8:55pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
scholes0:
@OP look at it this way, the closeness btw the aboriginal Igalas (Akpoto) & Yoruba is ancestral. A result of both groups descending from the same ancestors in deep prehistory that is soo old that nobody recorded it. The relationship between Igala & Igbo you friend talks about is as a result of geographical closeness/inter-relationship along border areas & some culture rubbing off each other. There r even igalas in today's SE. So actually, depending on the Igala u ask, there are varying degrees of closeness with neighbors. Some Igalas will tell u they r closest to Agatu/Idoma, some will tell u it is Bassa-Nge/Nupe. These are all location induced relatedness.
Igala looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.
Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.
1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.
* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:
Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito
Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe
Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø
Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.
Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu
Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ
Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ
Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona
Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu
Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu
Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi
Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu
Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule
Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo/Ogho (money) - Oko
Wo/Gho (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Iwowo (nudity) - Owowo
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko
And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat
Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object
Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat
Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity
Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest
Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many
ilɛ in Yoruba = Earth (as in land)
ilɛ in Igala = Earth (as in the planet)
There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.
With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.
Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Mujtahida: 9:02pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
scholes0:
@OP look at it this way, the closeness btw the aboriginal Igalas (Akpoto) & Yoruba is ancestral. A result of both groups descending from the same ancestors in deep prehistory that is soo old that nobody recorded it. The relationship between Igala & Igbo you friend talks about is as a result of geographical closeness/inter-relationship along border areas & some culture rubbing off each other. There r even igalas in today's SE. So actually, depending on the Igala u ask, there are varying degrees of closeness with neighbors. Some Igalas will tell u they r closest to Agatu/Idoma, some will tell u it is Bassa-Nge/Nupe. These are all location induced relatedness.
Igala looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.
Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.
1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.
* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:
Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito
Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe
Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø
Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.
Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu
Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ
Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ
Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona
Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu
Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu
Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi
Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu
Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule
Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo/Ogho (money) - Oko
Wo/Gho (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Iwowo (nudity) - Owowo
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko
And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat
Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object
Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat
Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity
Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest
Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many
ilɛ in Yoruba = Earth (as in land)
ilɛ in Igala = Earth (as in the planet)
There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.
With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.
Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply. Igala here. Thoroughly enjoyed the intellectual buffet you just served with your elucidation of the linguistic affinity of Igala and yoruba 2 Likes |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by aribisala0(m): 9:02pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Olu317:
Says a quack doctor . Anyway, I do not argue but stating fact. I am economical with fact. Had it being the information posted are inline with authenticity ,why will I bother ? I do not seek glory. Inform as it ought be.
Perhaps, you need check self for pride because I do not flow based on assumption but fact. And I wonder reason you havent come back to post the Odù that founded Igala.
Need to be right syndrome That is your diagnosis Note I did not engage you on the Igala thing AT ALL I am talking about YOU 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Mujtahida: 9:13pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
samonak:
Igala is more like a hybrid between Idoma and Yoruba. Igala language is not even close to idoma at all despite the geographical proximity between the two. When yoruba is spoken, I understand a lot of words but idoma apart from the Anya, I understand zilch. 2 Likes |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by demmie1: 9:28pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Maryam1234:
I will advise you open your own thread and educate us the more rather than countering what's already stated.We are eager to learn about the perspectives you're coming from A friend of mine, called my attention to this thread.She's from Ondo State but Igala by ancestry;she found something interesting about my native name yesterday and she thinks I'm more Yoruba than Igala.I have to let her know that my name Keju is an abreviation of Alikeju,her dad's name is Akeju and her brother abbreviates it as Keju,such a twist. She's telling me I'm bearing her surname Lolz. What is the meaning of Alikeju |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by lovelove2323: 9:39pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
scholes0:
@OP look at it this way, the closeness btw the aboriginal Igalas (Akpoto) & Yoruba is ancestral. A result of both groups descending from the same ancestors in deep prehistory that is soo old that nobody recorded it. The relationship between Igala & Igbo you friend talks about is as a result of geographical closeness/inter-relationship along border areas & some culture rubbing off each other. There r even igalas in today's SE. So actually, depending on the Igala u ask, there are varying degrees of closeness with neighbors. Some Igalas will tell u they r closest to Agatu/Idoma, some will tell u it is Bassa-Nge/Nupe. These are all location induced relatedness.
Igala looks like heavily modified archaic Yoruba.
Many of the words are the same. For those that are not exactly the same, I observed the following changes/modifications.
1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their open oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.
* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e (R to L), (L to N), (J to Bÿ), (S to R/L) etc....
Here are some RULES:
Rule A*: Nasal vowel ending words in Yoruba to open vowel ending in Igala. Middle diphthong eliminated when present
Jeuñ (eat) - Jeñwu
Igbiñ (snail) - Igbi
Ohuñ (thing) - Eñwu
Eyiñ (tooth) - Eñyi
Ọkuñ (illipede) - Ọkọ
Eguñ (ancestors) - Egwu
Oguñ (medicine) - Ogwu
Fuñfuñ (white) - Fufu
Fañ (blow) - Fa
Agañ (barren) - Aga
Kañ (sour) - Ka
Okañ (one) - Oka
Oduñ (year) - Odo
Agbañ (chin) - Agba
Ouñ (he/she/it) - Oñwu
Ofuñ (throat) - Ofa
Oyañ (breats) - Eñya
Idiñ (maggot) - Ide
Ekuñ (leopard) - Eko
Tituñ (new) - Tito
Rule B* Consonant mutation R to L and vice versa
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Iri (dew/mist) - eli
Olu (lord) - Onu
Ro (cultivate) - Lo
Olamide (name) - Uramide
Iru (seed) - ilu
Akere (toad) - Akele
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (ants) - Elila
Ri (see) - Li
Ora (fat) - Ula
Oruñgbe (thirst) - Olugbe
Rule C* Consonant mutation S to R/L
Ese (leg) - Ere
Eso (fruit) - Ero
Se (block) - Re
Sø (throw) - Rø
Rule D* Consonant mutation S and SH to CH
It seems like the “Sh” sound in absent in some Igala dialects , and they replace with a 'CH'... These dialects that lack the the SH sound seem to have become the standard for the whole of Igala.
Sheyi (done this) - Cheyi
Oshu (moon) - Ochu
Ishu (yam) - Uchu
Ashe (authority) - Ache
Isha (pot) - Ucha
Shu (defecate) - Chu
Rule E* Consonant mutation J to BŸ
Aja (dog) - Abya
Eje (seven) - Ebye
Ẹjɛ (blood) - Ẹbyɛ
Rule F* Consonant mutation W to GW just like in the South-Eastern Yorubaland dialects
Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun (cry) - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Wɛ (wash/bath) - Gwɛ
Rule G*: Consonant mutation L to N
Oluku (friend) - Onukwu
Ile/Ale (land) - Ane
Ale (night) - Ane
Ala (dream) - Ona
Ola (tomorrow) - Ona
Rule A* + B*
Eriñ (four)- Ele
Oruñ (neck) - Olu
Iruñ (hair) - Ilo
Aruñ (five) - Alu
Oruñ (sun) - Olu
Eruru (ashes) - Elulu
Rule A* + C*
Esañ (nine) - Ela
Suñ (sleep) - Lu
Rule A* +D*
Eshiñshiñ (housefly) - Achichi
Rule A* + F*
Egunguñ (bone) - Ogwugwu
Iguñnu (vulture) - Ugwunu
Oguñ (twenty) - Ogwu
Rule A* +G*
Olokuñriñ (man) - Onokele
Olobiñriń (woman) - Onobule
Rule B* + C*
Sure (run/hasten) - Rule
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Other Minor differencess with irregular rules
Bayii (like this) - Abayii
Øbɛ (soup) - Øbø
Owo/Ogho (money) - Oko
Wo/Gho (look) - Go
Ijo (dance) - Ido
Monamona (lightening) - Omamañya
Oru (midnight) - Odu
Iwowo (nudity) - Owowo
Eru (slave) -Adu
Ehoro (rabbit) - Efolo
Adiye (hen) - Ajuwe
Akuko (coc.k) - Ayiko
And finally,False friend cognates
Yo in Yoruba = Fully fed
Yo in Igala = Plump / Fat
Du in Yoruba - To contest an object
Du in Igala - To take an object
Oyuñ in Yoruba = Pregnancy
Oyu in Igala = Fat
Ebo in Yoruba - Sacrifice
Ebo in Igala - Deity
Edø in Yoruba = Liver
Edø in Igala = Heart/Chest
Wewe in Yoruba = Pieces
Uwewe in igala = Many
ilɛ in Yoruba = Earth (as in land)
ilɛ in Igala = Earth (as in the planet)
There are many countless words that are exactly the same in both languages and need no further elucidation, since we are focusing more on what has made the two languages different over time.
That being said, there are many other words too that are very different... Hence the reason why Igala shares approximately only about 64% or so word cognates with the General Yoruba we speak. The 40% that do not align between both is already enough to make inter-comprehension between both very hard... The biggest chunk of non Yoruboid words in Igala is from the neighbouring Idoma according to some research.
With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.
Yoruba is Igala Pro Max. Once you master the grammatical rule of thumb in the formula required to convert from one dialect gloss to the other gloss ... you will master the language sharply. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Anndrew(m): 9:54pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
What of Igbo and ikwere...hardly any difference |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by marvinsync(m): 10:02pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Anndrew:
What of Igbo and ikwere...hardly any difference ikwerre is Igbo but that's a conversation for another day |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Anndrew(m): 10:10pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
marvinsync:
ikwerre is Igbo
but that's a conversation for another day kkk..but some ikwere go still dey deny igbo..wike for example,ameachi one Time,like that classified himself as Igbo...Well,like you say.that conversation for another time.. |
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| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by delpee(f): 10:44pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Mikolo70:
This is what Nairaland is known for in those dayz.... Research, intelligent people everywhere... But now, the idiots don spoil am for us.. SAD!.. VERY SAD!!!!.. Reason why I joined after being a guest for a while. Things are different now.... Hopefully topics that enlighten us will be more than the fake news and irrelevant posts in due course. 1 Like |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by eniade07: 10:47pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Maryam1234:
As an Igala girl myself I can hear Yoruba perfectly,you dare not insult me in Yoruba language.Thanks op you did a good job everything you cited was 100% correct.Its like you're a linguist by profession but,I can bet you don't belong to either of the two ethnic group. So what gave you the impression that I don't belong to neither of the two ethnic group? 1 Like |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by delpee(f): 10:51pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
shortIGBOman:
Anambra and some part of Enugu are IGALA ancestral lands. Most of the inhabitants of those lands are IGALA. The few Igbo who live there are settlers. Who came from other neighbouring Igbo State to hustle. Really? Though I see the Igalas are close to the upper parts of Enugu and Anambra on the map. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by delpee(f): 10:54pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
@ OP Well done.
Very interesting thread. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Okobola146: 11:37pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Igala girls sabi fok Pass Yoruba girls, their ringtones dey very sweet, very loud and natural, unlike Yoruba girls wey dey always fake their own. |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Okobola146: 11:39pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
Maryam1234:
As an Igala girl myself I can hear Yoruba perfectly,you dare not insult me in Yoruba language.Thanks op you did a good job everything you cited was 100% correct.Its like you're a linguist by profession but,I can bet you don't belong to either of the two ethnic group. do you have those tribal marks that look like pussy cat ? 1 Like |
| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Quitam: 11:53pm On Aug 18, 2022 |
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| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Iduellie03: 12:21am On Aug 19, 2022 |
There's nothing like Uramide in Igala. Ura means wealth or abundance but Uramide, I don't know where that came from |
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| Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Nobody: 1:31am On Aug 19, 2022 |
Very close similarity |
