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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Khastro(m): 2:21am On Aug 19, 2022
Realtalk20:

That's how yesterday one of them was telling me that we Bini people are Yoruba and under them.

There is something somewhere.
How can a whole tribe feel so insecure

Well, it's that individual's opinion. Not that of the entire tribe

I'm not Yoruba, but i know it should not be generalised

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Khastro(m): 2:22am On Aug 19, 2022
DSC7:
One of the reasons i find it difficult to speak Igala embarassed
The reason is b/c they're related to Yoruba?

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by DSC7: 5:34am On Aug 19, 2022
Khastro:

The reason is b/c they're related to Yoruba?

Reason is because most words sounds alike..

My Igala friend's Dad is yoruba, he speaks both, i have tried to learn from him but always end up getting confused..
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by shortIGBOman: 6:16am On Aug 19, 2022
delpee:


Really? Though I see the Igalas are close to the upper parts of Enugu and Anambra on the map.

The entire Anambra is IGALA ancestral State, half of Enugu is also Igala. Most of those wealthy people you see as Igbo are actually Igala. The IGALA in Anambra and Enugu are actually richer than the Igbo who live in those areas

The reason why the Igala embrace Igbo language is that, Igbo language is the language of trade in that Region. Just like Hausa is that language of trade in the North. Which forced other minorities in that region to speak Hausa.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Sabbatical(m): 6:40am On Aug 19, 2022
[please, I will really like if you can refer me to a book detailing this. Especially where the Okun people of Kogi comes in.
uote author=scholes0 post=115820956]

Pls stick to what you know, or calm down and stop gettting your panties in a bunch.
I said Igala sounds like heavily modified archaic Yoruba, I never said it is the archaic Yoruba, maybe you have comprehension issues..... If you have any contrary opinions, express it. It is an established fact that the NW Yoruba dialects (Your Oyo, Egba, Ibarapa and co) are the newest and latest evolving Yoruba dialects while the eastern dialects ( your Ekiti, Ufe, Ijebu, Owo, Ondo, Okun of Kogi and co) are the most archaic and stable...

That is why an Igala, Ekiti, Ondo, Itsekiri, Ijesha person will instantly interpret the title of Teni's popular single "Uyo Meyo" without breaking sweat, but your average Lagosian or Ibadan Yoruba will still be asking if that is even Yoruba language.
That is why the vocabulary of Igala is closer to that of the eastern dialects but with heavy mutations due to contact with Idoma and Igbo.


Igala and Olukumi do not belong to the same time period.
All linguists agree that Igala and the modern Yoruba dialects split off from a previous common proto language... so I don't know how any well informed person will be comparing the chronology of Olukumi vis-a-vis Yoruba with that of Igala, which shares a much more antiquated level of relationship.

Ps: Who told you there is nothing like Olokunrin in Yoruba. Stop overreaching yourself please.... or better still, just stick to your dialect and stay there.
And even if that was the case, where exactly are the exaggerations? because apart from that one example out of all those I have listed up there you haven't pointed to any other one.



Check a map please, Yoruba are not more southerly than Igala per se.... it is Nigeria's confusing political geography that makes people think along the lines of ;"Igala are North, Yoruba is South" Or have you forgotten there are Yorubas in the same "Northern" kogi state with the Igalas? grin

Geographically, Yorubaland extend both more in the Northerly and more in the Southerly directions than the reach of Igalas.... Which means that even within Yorubas, you will actually find Yoruba groups more northerly and more southerly than Igala geographically..... So you can see your hypothesis is already faulty.[/quote]

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by ariesbull: 7:00am On Aug 19, 2022
nogragra:

The will soon regret the so called association because after the divide of Nigeria igbos will finish them with subtle genocide. The evil fulani is just learning work when we talk of igbo evil. When it happened say you were told.
nobody wants to be associated with yoruba....



Igbo genocide.... That is laughable
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Danisaint112(m): 8:37am On Aug 19, 2022
Seun Lalasticlala mynd44 dominique

This is what your Mods pushed to the front page Seun. But when we talk about Igbos history here and how we are related to the Isrealites just to educate our people some of your tribalistic mods would keep deleting the thread.

The kind of inequality going here is not good. A Muslim thread would be set up, while trying to comment "You will be forced to proclaim you are a Muslim."

But when a Christian thread is set up on a Sunday all living things both senseless and sensible comment. Seun Please call your mods to order.It alright. We are watching..
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by havenz(m): 8:54am On Aug 19, 2022
Very correct bro

EdwardRandy:

I've bn in your shoes and the truth is you will always have that suspicion in your mind, especially any day you guys will quarrel and she's on the phone with some guy you don't know.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Rajosh(m): 9:13am On Aug 19, 2022
Mindlog:
And I think they are also part of Enugu and Anambra states
Yeah. I know about Anambra
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by nogragra: 12:03pm On Aug 19, 2022
ariesbull:
nobody wants to be associated with yoruba....



Igbo genocide.... That is laughable
Then why are the whole worthless species of igboland in yoruba land? we don't need yall evil doers in our midst go to your land locked biafra. where you will gnash your teeth. No wonder hasa fulanis kills you and chased you away, south south don't want anything to do with you not even middle belt even overseas people don't want yall because of your criminality. You dare have the effontry to turn to the darling people of the world the Yorubas what a riffraff you are.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 4:13pm On Aug 19, 2022
aribisala0:
Need to be right syndrome

That is your diagnosis
Note I did not engage you on the Igala thing AT ALL

I am talking about YOU
I do know you didnt engage me based on Igala history but attention seeking where it is not valued. If you kept wondering reason I know a little,then you erred.

A-ri ìbi-sá-là grin be humble to learn. There is no supremacy tussle on NL. Atleast not in my school of thought.

There are numerous information on NL which lot of you accept as truth but are pratically false. You see, when you seek the wisdom of ageless elders so shall such help you become wiser.

Cheers
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by aribisala0(m): 4:14pm On Aug 19, 2022
Olu317:
I do know you didnt engage me based on Igala history but attention seeking where it is not valued. If you kept wondering reason I know a little,then you erred.

A-ri ìbi-sá-là grin be humble to learn. There is no supremacy tussle on NL. Atleast not in my school of thought.

There are numerous information on NL which lot of you accept as truth but are pratically false. You see, when you seek the wisdom of elders of ageless, you become wise.

Cheers
I just observed your quarrelsome mode of communication. Like you have internal quarrel. Even when you are alone there is quarrel. Quarrel dey travel with you day and night. Fix it

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 4:22pm On Aug 19, 2022
aribisala0:
I just observed your quarrelsome mode of communication. Like you have internal quarrel. Even when you are alone there is quarrel. Quarrel dey travel with you day and night. Fix it
Lol. You are actually making reference to thyself.

Who can actually become wiser ? Thepeople who learn good things of life from others and be humble. Humane is what Yorúba preaches. So, wherever you come from, learn the culture of Igala atleast on this thread if you do not like a Yoruba man grin

It is an added knowledge to all of us to learn about Igala.....
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by samonak(m): 8:23pm On Aug 19, 2022
Mujtahida:

Igala language is not even close to idoma at all despite the geographical proximity between the two. When yoruba is spoken, I understand a lot of words but idoma apart from the Anya, I understand zilch.
I am Idoma and my mum is part Igala, so I should know better, there a lot of similar words in Idoma and Igala. Both languages also bear the similar names.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by axponline: 8:35pm On Aug 19, 2022
I believe there is a strong relationship between Igala, Yoruba & Itsekiri. I remember I went to one joint in Warri owned by an Itsekiri woman. She was talking to her staff and I could understand what she was say if I listened carefully. That was my first time of hearing Itsekiri spoken and my conclusion was this is nothing more than a Yoruba dialect.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by ariesbull: 7:22am On Aug 20, 2022
nogragra:

Then why are the whole worthless species of igboland in yoruba land? we don't need yall evil doers in our midst go to your land locked biafra. where you will gnash your teeth. No wonder hasa fulanis kills you and chased you away, south south don't want anything to do with you not even middle belt even overseas people don't want yall because of your criminality. You dare have the effontry to turn to the darling people of the world the Yorubas what a riffraff you are.
it all end in online... The wailing end in online
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by RedboneSmith(m): 9:32am On Aug 20, 2022
samonak:

I am Idoma and my mum is part Igala, so I should know better, there a lot of similar words in Idoma and Igala. Both languages also bear the similar names.

These similarities are because they've been neighbours for centuries and have mixed and borrowed from one another. Lexically, Igala is still closer to Yoruba by far than to Idoma. The closeness between Igala and Yoruba are so much so that experts believe they both separated from a common language stock.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by RedboneSmith(m): 9:34am On Aug 20, 2022
shortIGBOman:


The entire Anambra is IGALA ancestral State, half of Enugu is also Igala. Most of those wealthy people you see as Igbo are actually Igala. The IGALA in Anambra and Enugu are actually richer than the Igbo who live in those areas

The reason why the Igala embrace Igbo language is that, Igbo language is the language of trade in that Region. Just like Hausa is that language of trade in the North. Which forced other minorities in that region to speak Hausa.

A whole lot of gibberish.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Tundex911: 9:57am On Aug 20, 2022
Always respect YORUBAWA

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by shortIGBOman: 11:37am On Aug 20, 2022
RedboneSmith:


A whole lot of gibberish.

Eyahh, the thing pain this Okoro well well grin

Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by emmaodet: 5:22pm On Aug 20, 2022
scholes0:


That is why an Igala, Ekiti, Ondo, Itsekiri, Ijesha person will instantly interpret the title of Teni's popular single "Uyo Meyo" without breaking sweat, but your average Lagosian or Ibadan Yoruba will still be asking if that is even Yoruba language.
That is why the vocabulary of Igala is closer to that of the eastern dialects but with heavy mutations due to contact with Idoma and Igbo.


You are really really right here.
I am Yoruba. From Osun but born and grew up in Ogun state.

I really really struggled to pick that Teni Uyo Meyo music.
I know guys from ondo axis will flow with it but Lagos, ogun guys will struggle to flow with it.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by emmaodet: 5:58pm On Aug 20, 2022
scholes0:

.

Also about your map.
I think the yoruboid group extended a lot up to seria loene because I do chat with a lady years ago from there and she told me her hubby lineage is from western part of nigeria but I think those are the lost group.
Also, it is well know in ghana that the Ga people of Accra (the teshie, nungua, circle area) are yorubas and they don’t decline that likewise some fractions in Togo and Benin. Again, I guess those are lost groups.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by leunseyis(m): 10:18pm On Aug 20, 2022
Olu317:
Oduduwa did not go any Igala that is not over 1200 years. The oduduwa that had died before AD.
Who said go. Refrase your sentence bro
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by leunseyis(m): 10:19pm On Aug 20, 2022
leunseyis:

Who said go? Refrase your sentence bro
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Evaromantik(m): 6:55am On Aug 21, 2022
AlphaTaikun:

The Aworis of Lagos, Ogun and Benin Republic are pure Yorubas and have never denied being so. Go and get yourself educated before coming online NEXT TIME and find out the meaning of "Awo" as a pre-fix in Yoruba language. Awolowo, Awogboro, Awori, Awotunde, and more.


Just In : How Ooni Of Ife Hosts Awori People At Ife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_RznT1dFcg
Viable Tv · 8 Dec 2018

=> https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/12/ooni-hosts-awori-people-celebrates-olofin-ogunfunminire/


=> https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-ooni-hosted-awori-people-at-ile-ife-celebrated-olofin-ogunfunminire/


=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_Awori


=> https://www.pulse.ng/lifestyle/food-travel/awori-people-a-brief-history-and-belief-of-the-original-indigenes-of-lagos/chjn7zt#:~:text=The%20Awori%20is%20a%20tribe,State%20and%20Lagos%20State%2C%20Nigeria.


The Awori is a tribe of the Yoruba people speaking a distinct dialect of the Yoruba language. And they are presently found in both Ogun State and Lagos State, Nigeria. 27 Jun 2022


Second, the Igala Yoruboid words you see in Ibo language was introduced into Iboland by the Igalas [and Igala bloodlines exist in Anambra, Enugu, and Delta States] just like the red chieftaincy cap Ibos wear is NOT native to Ibos but was introduced by the Igalas into Nsukka area. It then spread to other parts of the Ibo area. The red cap is indigenous to the Middle-Belt of Nigeria. Even the Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi States wear the red chieftaincy caps.


Igala-associated communities also exist in places such as Nri, Umueri, Aguleri, Asaba, Illah, Nsuka and more.

This is madness.

I'm from Aguleri and am very sure that you have never gone beyond Ondo State towards the east but you want to tell the history of the people you know nothing about. You gather knowledge from online publications of people that know nothing about the Igbos.

The guy told OP that Igala is more closer to the East than the West and even after taking a look at the below map of your making, you still do not believe that, but went even further to tell stories of how traditional Igbo words were now gotten from the Yorubas, through the Igalas.

You actually believe the language of the Igalas, which is a very small ethnic group (compared to the Igbos) influenced the entire Igbo but wouldn't consider is being the vice-versa?.

You simply loath the Igbos, but if you're a historian, focus on your tribe and the wack story of how your ancestors fell from the sky.

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 7:11am On Aug 21, 2022
RedboneSmith:


These similarities are because they've been neighbours for centuries and have mixed and borrowed from one another. Lexically, Igala is still closer to Yoruba by far than to Idoma. The closeness between Igala and Yoruba are so much so that experts believe they both separated from a common language stock.


Neighbours correct.This due to Ecological factor in linguistic analysis.

Interwoven with the Yorubas of the NorthEast Flank ? Correct. Okun people factoring.

Interwoven with the North Central Yorubas ? Came to be during Oranmiyan's and team's espionage across Niger River.

Oranmiyan and group went as far as close to Songhai Empire(oral history with evidence of Yoruba Fabrics, beads, found in Mauritania and beyond) before returning due to his inability to penetrate Songhai Empire.

Therefore he returns back to extract some Tapa/Nupe who became loyalist to him in reestablishment of Katunga and later Eyoe who were of Nupe admixture.

Finally, the people who were of Igala are admixture of Tapa, Jukun,Idoma, Ibos(Ìgbò) etc Yoruba.

Pointing to language separation 5000 years ago is pointing to the Biblical information on Tower of Babel . And this is false because there is no Igala as a man in Ifá but animal in all ramification.

The ifa as esoteric divination system has absolute information on the people who claims historical alliance and same variation of language identified as Yorùbá people.

In ileife, there is no household that Igala can lay claim to as ancestral household unless,the one that begun during the return of Oranmiyan back to ileife after the demise of obálùfọ̀n ogbógbodirin and his son Obálùfọ̀n Aláyémórè around early 1200AD. And the Igala, will be fused under Eredumi household who is under Obadio of Ogun household.

This was when Prince Orànmìyàn returned and Obálùfọ̀n Aláayémórè abdicated the throne for him to establish ẹfọn Alàayé .

Even in iléifẹ, there is what is called strangers quarters.Kindly verify my assertion through visit to ileife. You see, the hypothesis being stated online is quite different from reality on ground.


Finally , there were oral account in ifa where the world begun in the ancient "iléifẹ" (vast household) or "ilẹ̀ifẹ" (vast endless land) and there are three world that have existed. The present world is the third.

#Fact.com
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 7:30am On Aug 21, 2022
leunseyis:

Who said go. Refrase your sentence bro
Go to any Igala land to found it you mean ? If you're searching for fun? No problem.

Igala as an ethnic group never existed during Oduduwa era but hisgreat great great grandson. Afterall Igala is a fusion of intermarriages with different ethnic groups.

Ifa(Yoruba orally documented words of God) has information on oduduwa the heavnly body, sanctioned by Orunmila to the king of all kings on earth. While the one identified as Odù dá ìwà was a handsome young man who was consecrated in ileife as king to all when there was a stop to rotational lording being shared among the thirteen settlement kings.

Punchline: English language is not my ancestral language. grin cheesy grin mè má mà mọ̀ ohun e mí fọ ràn'mi. cool grin cheesy cheesy

Cheers
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Olu317(m): 7:32am On Aug 21, 2022
leunseyis:

Who said go. Refrase your sentence bro
Go to any Igala land to found it you mean ? If you're searching for fun? No problem. Then, teach since you are the instructor here.

Igala as an ethnic group never existed during Oduduwa era but hisgreat great great grandson. Afterall Igala is a fusion of intermarriages with different ethnic groups.

Ifa(Yoruba orally documented words of God) has information on oduduwa the heavnly body, sanctioned by Orunmila to the king of all kings on earth. While the one identified as Odù dá ìwà was a handsome young man who was consecrated in ileife as king to all when there was a stop to rotational lording being shared among the thirteen settlement kings.

Punchline: English language is not my ancestral language. Mè má mà mọ̀ ohun e mí fọ ràn'mi. cool grin cheesy cheesy

Cheers
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by Mujtahida: 2:22pm On Aug 21, 2022
samonak:

I am Idoma and my mum is part Igala, so I should know better, there a lot of similar words in Idoma and Igala. Both languages also bear the similar names.
Names I agree, but for words, Igala has closer affinity with yoruba than idoma. I am not idoma but I lived with Idomas long enough to know. But then maybe Igalas on the border in Ankpa and Olamaboro share words with idoma but as you push deeper into Igala land from Ofu to idah (which is where I come from) they are scarcely similar words shared between igala and idoma. In fact when Igalas from Ankpa and Ogugu speak, I hardly understand what they say.
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by macof(m): 10:26pm On Aug 21, 2022
Maryam1234:

I will advise you open your own thread and educate us the more rather than countering what's already stated.We are eager to learn about the perspectives you're coming from kissA friend of mine, called my attention to this thread.She's from Ondo State but Igala by ancestry;she found something interesting about my native name yesterday and she thinks I'm more Yoruba than Igala.I have to let her know that my name Keju is an abreviation of Alikeju,her dad's name is Akeju and her brother abbreviates it as Keju,such a twist. kissShe's telling me I'm bearing her surname Lolz.

Lmao. You don't know the guy and his madness on this forum?

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Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by macof(m): 10:27pm On Aug 21, 2022
akunjohn:




You nailed it, sometimes ago around 1994 to 1996,I was posted to Idah for a road projects with my friends from Ibadan and before we left that place, we've mastered the language very well...they always call us omoyaji...
My colleagues even got married there.
The good old days grin grin
Do you know why they called you omoyaji?
Re: Relationship Between Yoruba Language And Igala Language. by delpee(f): 10:28pm On Aug 21, 2022
shortIGBOman:


The entire Anambra is IGALA ancestral State, half of Enugu is also Igala. Most of those wealthy people you see as Igbo are actually Igala. The IGALA in Anambra and Enugu are actually richer than the Igbo who live in those areas

The reason why the Igala embrace Igbo language is that, Igbo language is the language of trade in that Region. Just like Hausa is that language of trade in the North. Which forced other minorities in that region to speak Hausa.

Interesting! I'm surprised actually. I've been to Anambra and Enugu before and assumed they're full Igbo states. Thanks for enlightening me.

Our inlaws from Anambra claim Igbo ancestry with a traditional title attached to the family (Chief). Probably a mixed or acquired heritage based on your analysis.

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