If you don’t celebrate Christmas because it’s of pagan origin, then do away with everything around you that is of pagan origin!

First and foremost, stop mentioning the days of the week because as you do so you’re mentioning the names of pagan gods


Diana as the Moon for Monday,

Mars for Tuesday,

Mercury for Wednesday,

Jupiter for Thursday,

Venus for Friday,

Saturn for Saturday, and

Apollo as the Sun for Sunday

The Romans named the days of the week after their gods

Sunday:
The first day of the week was named after the sun – dies Solis – day of the sun in Latin and later Sunnon-dagaz in old Germanic.

Monday:
Monday is the moon day – dies Lunae in Latin, becoming Mon(an)dæg in Old English.

Tuesday:
Tuesday was named for the Roman god of war, Mars, so in Latin was known as dies Martis. However, the Germanic god of war was known as Tiu and the English day of the week is derived from this Germanic god’s name instead, first known as Tiwsday and eventually Tuesday.

Wednesday:
Similarly, the Germanic equivalent of the Roman god Mercury was the equally as swift Woden. And so this day, which started out in Latin as dies Mercurii became Woden’s day in old Germanic, eventually becoming Wednesday in English.

Thursday:
Jupiter, also known as Jove, is the supreme Roman god and patron of the Roman state. He is the god that created thunder and lightning. Thor is the Norse god of thunder, often shown riding through the sky in a chariot. And it’s from this Norse god that we see the Latin dies Jovis (day of Jupiter) become Thor’s day and eventually Thursday.

Friday:
Venus is the Roman goddess of love and beauty, and in Latin her day was known as dies Veneris. We get the English name for Venus’ day from Frigg, the Norse goddess of love and the heavens, and possibly Fria, the Teutonic goddess of love and beauty. In Germanic we have Frije-dagaz, later becoming Friday in English.

Saturday:
We end with an easy one. Saturn is the Roman god of agriculture, known in Ancient Greece as Cronos. In Latin we have dies Saturni and it’s not hard to see that Saturday today is still very much Saturn’s day.

https://englishlive.ef.com/blog/language-lab/origins-behind-english-weekday-names/amp/

So we should not wake up on these days because they're named after the gods or what?

Tallesty1:
So we should not wake up on these days because they're named after the gods or what?

If that is what you can infer from this post, then you should go and collect your school fees back from your secondary school English teacher because he/she did a poor job on your comprehension!

Never existed in my language and my religion.

Let us talk about the months of the year too:
They are also of pagan origin, so using your pagan origin as the reason for not associating with or celebrating Christmas, then you shouldn’t associate with the months of the year too because when you do, you’re mentioning the pagan god, practice

January:
January is named after the Roman god Janus. As you can see in this print, he had two faces so he could see the future and the past. He was also the god of doors


February:
February is named after an ancient Roman festival of purification called Februa.

March:
March is named after Mars, the Roman god of war. This statue shows him in battle gear

April:
April takes its name from the Latin word aperire, meaning 'to open' (just like flowers do in spring)
Apparently this was not named after any pagan god or practice

May:
May is named after the Greek goddess Maia. This print is an allegorical representation of the month of May.

June:
June is named after the Roman goddess Juno – the god of marriage and childbirth, and the wife of Jupiter, king of the gods

July and August
They were not named after pagan gods but were named after leaders you will refer to as pagans.
July and August were named after two major figures of the ancient Roman world – the statesman Julius Caesar (and Rome's first emperor, Augustus.


September–December
But what about the rest? September, October, November and December are named after Roman numbers 7, 8, 9 and 10 – they were originally the seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth months of the Roman year. Before July and August were renamed after Roman rulers, they were called Quintilis and Sextilis, meaning fifth and sixth months. How boring!
https://www.britishmuseum.org/blog/whats-name-months-year

Who celebrates days and months?

Christmas is paganism! A date is picked to celebrate what is unfounded in any scripture except idolatry!

AntiChristian, I can see that you are here already. I will soon expose the pagan origin of the Islamic calendar too before you start gloating!

advocatejare:

If you don’t celebrate Christmas because it’s of pagan origin, then do away with everything around you that is of pagan origin!
First and foremost, stop mentioning the days of the week because as you do so you’re mentioning the names of pagan gods
Diana as the Moon for Monday,
Mars for Tuesday,
Mercury for Wednesday,
Jupiter for Thursday,
Venus for Friday,
Saturn for Saturday, and
Apollo as the Sun for Sunday

Weak rebuttal!

Do you stop calling someone by the name he is popularly known simply because he bears Èṣùtọ́tá, Ògúnbíyì, Ṣàngótádé, Òrìṣàfẹ́mi and so on?

Ọmọ it's when you join in celebrating or b
greet them for their festival celebration that you become part of them not when you call them by their names.

So if you can go and convince people of the world to change the names they're calling days of the week otherwise you won't stop celebrating Christmas, nobody cares but one thing is certain: no servant of God celebrated birthday so it's pagan tradition not God God's people!

AntiChristian:
Who celebrates days and months?

When you mention those days and months you’re mentioning the names of those gods and the practices of their worshippers

Christmas is paganism! A date is picked to celebrate what is unfounded in any scripture except idolatry!

So is Ramadan, go and read about the history of Ramadan fasting

So is kissing the Blackstone


So is putting stars and moon at the top of your mosques


So is Hajj


So is Tawaf


So is fasting on Ashurah etc

advocatejare:

When you mention those days and months you’re mentioning the names of those gods and the practices of their worshippers


So is Ramadan, go and read about the history of Ramadan fasting

So is kissing the Blackstone


So is putting stars and moon at the top of your mosques


So is Hajj


So is Tawaf


So is fasting on Ashurah etc

Calling a date is different from celebration!

Abeg you're wrong!

Who celebrates Monday or July like Christmas?

MaxInDHouse:


Weak rebuttal!

Do you stop calling someone by the name he is popularly known simply because he bears Èṣùtọ́tá, Ògúnbíyì, Ṣàngótádé, Òrìṣàfẹ́mi and so on?

Ọmọ it's when you join in celebrating or b
greet them for their festival celebration that you become part of them not when you call them by their names.

So if you can go and convince people of the world to change the names they're calling days of the week otherwise you won't stop celebrating Christmas, nobody cares but one thing is certain: no servant of God celebrated birthday so it's pagan tradition not God God's people!

Answer my questions first and I’ll entertain you

AntiChristian:


Calling a date is different from celebration!

Abeg you're wrong!

Who celebrates Monday or July like Christmas?

Bowing down to worship a fallen meteorite,

Putting a lucifer sign on your mosques etc are pagans practice that you’ve incorporated into your religion.

Deal with that!

advocatejare:

If that is what you can infer from this post, then you should go and collect your school fees back from your secondary school English teacher because he/she did a poor job on your comprehension!

Infer?

Dude you are the one that is not making sense. Week days are named after gods, okay but we don't pay special attention to them and the gods they represent, likewise Christmas. Folks that do not celebrate Christmas acknowledge that today is Christmas according to Christians but don't pay special attention to it.

They feel exactly the way you feel about Sallah. It is an important day to those that it is important to, the rest don't give a hoot.

Read Your Bible

In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable.

Romans 14:5.

A day is what you make it not what another person makes it and they are all acceptable to God.

While Romans were counting days as Mon, Tue etc others are counting Nkwo, Eke, Orie etc.

Refunding my entire school fees will greatly be appreciated if it is possible?


Can you help?

advocatejare:
AntiChristian, I can see that you are here already. I will soon expose the pagan origin of the Islamic calendar too before you start gloating!

It's none of my business!
If i have time I will delete it and return you to your thread topic.

advocatejare:

Nonsense

How's this related to your topic?

AntiChristian:


How's this related to your topic?

We are considering pagan practices refurbished into different practices and religions!

This is actually the most hilarious thing that I have heard anyone say in futile defence of the pagan festival called Christmas. Celebrate your Christmas, if you must, but don't associate it with the Saviour of the world, Yahushua the Messiah.

Christmas has nothing to do with Yahushua the Messiah, the Word and the begotten Son of YHVH Almighty.

AntiChristian:
Who celebrates days and months?

Christmas is paganism! A date is picked to celebrate what is unfounded in any scripture except idolatry!

Pagan origin of Islamic month: the pagans already named all the months after their practices before Muhammad claimed the months as Islamic months just like he retained many of the pagan practices

al-Muḥarram (Forbidden):
The pagans Arabs so named this month because battle and all kinds of fighting are forbidden (ḥarām) during this month.

Safar (Void):
Supposedly named this because pre-Islamic Arab houses were empty this time of year while their occupants gathered food.

Rabi al-Awwal (the first spring):
Also means to graze, because cattle were grazed during this month.


Rabīʿ ath-Thānī or Rabīʿ al-ʾĀkhir (the second spring)


Jumādā al-ʾŪlā (the first of parched land):
Often considered the pre-Islamic summer. Jumādā may also be related to a verb meaning "to freeze" and another account relates that water would freeze during this time of year.


Jumādā ath-Thāniyah or Jumādā al-ʾĀkhirah (the second of parched land, the last of parched land)

Tallesty1:
Infer?

Dude you are the one that is not making sense. Week days are named after gods, okay but we don't pay special attention to them and the gods they represent, likewise Christmas. Folks that do not celebrate Christmas acknowledge that today is Christmas according to Christians but don't pay special attention to it.

They feel exactly the way you feel about Sallah. It is an important day to those that it is important, the rest don't give a hoot.

Read Your Bible

Romans 14:5.

A day is what you make it not what another person makes it and they are all acceptable to God.

While Romans were counting days as Mon, Tue etc others are counting Nkwo, Eke, Orie etc.

Refunding my entire school fees will greatly be appreciated if it is possible?


Can you help?

Unfortunately I was not your English Teacher, so your English language teaching fee was not paid to me. Therefore, I can’t refund you

advocatejare:

We are considering pagan practices refurbished into different practices and religions!

Is that your topic?

You dey suffer from old age?

AntiChristian:


Is that your topic?

You dey suffer from old age?

Continuation of pagan origin of the Islamic calendar

Rajab (Respect and honor)
This is the second sacred month in which fighting is forbidden. Rajab may also be related to a verb meaning "to remove", so called because pre-Islamic Arabs would remove the heads of their spears and refrain from fighting.

Shaban (scattered):
Marked the time of year when Arab tribes dispersed to find water. Sha‘bān may also be related to a verb meaning "to be in between two things". Another account relates that it was called thus because the month lies between Rajab and Ramadan.

Ramadan (Burning heat) : month of fasting for pagans
Burning is related to fasting as with an empty stomach one's worldly desire will burn. Supposedly so called because of high temperatures caused by the excessive heat of the sun. 

Shawwal (Raised):
Female camelswould normally be in calf at this time of year and raise their tails. At the first day of this month, the Eid al-Fitr, "Festival of Breaking the Fast" begins, marking the end of fasting and the end of Ramadhan.


Ḏū al-Qaʿdah (the one of truce/sitting):
This is a holy month during which war is banned. People are allowed to defend themselves if attacked


Ḏū al-Ḥijjah(the one of pilgrimage)
the month the pagans used for pilgrimage!

advocatejare:

Answer my questions first and I’ll entertain you

The scriptures has answered you so it's you that supposed to tell where CHRISTMAS is found in the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:


The scriptures has answered you so it's you that supposed to tell where CHRISTMAS is found in the Bible!

I’ve numbered the questions for you.

Choose them one by one and paste the scriptures that answer them. The scriptures not your own fabricated inference!

advocatejare:


Continuation of pagan origin of the Islamic calendar

Rajab (Respect and honor)
This is the second sacred month in which fighting is forbidden. Rajab may also be related to a verb meaning "to remove", so called because pre-Islamic Arabs would remove the heads of their spears and refrain from fighting.

Shaban (scattered):
Marked the time of year when Arab tribes dispersed to find water. Sha‘bān may also be related to a verb meaning "to be in between two things". Another account relates that it was called thus because the month lies between Rajab and Ramadan.

Ramadan (Burning heat) : month of fasting for pagans
Burning is related to fasting as with an empty stomach one's worldly desire will burn. Supposedly so called because of high temperatures caused by the excessive heat of the sun. 

Shawwal (Raised):
Female camelswould normally be in calf at this time of year and raise their tails. At the first day of this month, the Eid al-Fitr, "Festival of Breaking the Fast" begins, marking the end of fasting and the end of Ramadhan.


Ḏū al-Qaʿdah (the one of truce/sitting):
This is a holy month during which war is banned. People are allowed to defend themselves if attacked


Ḏū al-Ḥijjah(the one of pilgrimage)
the month the pagans used for pilgrimage!

This is silly!

So na Christmas be this?

AntiChristian:


This is silly!

So na Christmas be this?

Akhi,

That guy suffers from from all ailments known to a Deluded mind.

Na with him hand he write am say what they are celebrating is of Pagan background.

Instead make he close him mouth and enjoy the paganism in his faith, he is all over Nairaland spitting all over the place.

Walahi e no easy to engage YabaLeft people. Doctors dey try abeg.

advocatejare:

I’ve numbered the questions for you.

Choose them one by one and paste the scriptures that answer them. The scriptures not your own fabricated inference!

That's the answer to your question, all are just the same but due to your faithlessness you're thinking it's more than one.

This is the question that carries all what you decided:

"Why is it that Jesus began ruling in heaven and most people on planet earth didn't know except Jehovah's Witnesses whereas he said ALL EYES will see him in his glory?"

MaxInDHouse:

You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.' “However, happy are your eyes because they see and your ears because they hear. For truly I say to you, many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things you are observing but did not see them, and to hear the things you are hearing but did not hear them. Matthew 13:14-18

Please note the highlighted in red!
What exactly were Jesus' disciples seeing or hearing (literally) that others standing there can't see or hear?

Well it's because the prophecies regarding the Christ's coming was deep and complex so only faithful people can get the sense of it.
For instance Malachi said Elijah will come first before Christ {Malachi 4:5} Elisha told the Israelites that Elijah went to heaven with flying horses so Israelites thought Elijah will return like that to introduce the Christ that's why Peter, James and John after seeing Moses and Elijah with Jesus during transfiguration asked Jesus:
“Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” Matthew 17:10
Jesus only explained n to them that John has fulfilled that prophecy! Matthew 17:11-13

Millions of Jews don't believe Jesus today because of these things, they're expecting a God prince that will be born in a spectacular way and like a professor whose office people will be going for counseling {Isaiah 9:6} so when Jesus' disciples told them the miracles surrounding the birth of Jesus they were asking the same question this faithless guy is asking today:
Who saw all these things? Where was it documented? How come only you people know that Elijah and Christ have both come? When did Elijah came that nobody saw him?

So my brother advocate is gradually getting the sense of what we are saying but his heart is sealed up due to all the bad things he was told about God's organization that's why he quoted Jesus' illustrative prophecy regarding his presence in power {Matthew 24:27} just as the Jews were expecting something great in sight {Matthew 11:7-9} faithless generation like advocate will continue looking but they will not SEE any of these things, even though the evidence is all around them.
Last week while at the cath witnessing a traditionalist walk up to me and asked politely:

"I can see that you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses"
i responded
"Yes Sir, do you need any of our magazines?"
He said "You people have been saying the world is going to end and my own father told me that you've been saying it for as long as he was a boy, today i CAN SEE that what you people are preaching is fulfilling gradually because the whole world is totally confused now. So can you Please! Please!! Please!!! tell me what's next because now i'm in my early 90s but i won't want to loose out completely after SEEING all what you people have been saying about your Jesus"

We concluded to visit him in his house to commence a Bible study but an elder in our congregation said instead we supposed to invite him to the Kingdom Hall so he can start HEARING WHAT WE ARE HEARING AND SEEING WHAT WE ARE SEEING! Matthew 13:16

So whenever i see those Satan has completely blinded with false religions {2Corinthians 4:4} like this guy i only feel pity for them because even though they know that Jehovah's Witnesses organization is unique the stubbornness in their hearts won't allow them to humble themselves for their own salvation! Zephaniah 2:2-3

MaxInDHouse:


That's the answer to your question, all are just the same but due to your faithlessness you're thinking it's more than one.

This is the question that carries all what you decided:

"Why is it that Jesus began ruling in heaven and most people on planet earth didn't know except Jehovah's Witnesses whereas he said ALL EYES will see him in his glory?"

You are still not ready.

When you are ready, pick the questions one after the other and attach your answers directly from the scriptures.

If you don’t, I won’t entertain your folly anymore

AntiChristian:


This is silly!

So na Christmas be this?

It’s exposing paganism in Islam: