searchlight:
has god ever appeared before a group of men? he wont because hes just an imagination. he will only appear with wind or fire lol

titusmichael27:

Would you like to see him? If you say yes with all honesty, he will let you see him , if that will help you gain salvation.

38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law answered Jesus. They said, “Teacher, we want to see you do a miracle as a sign from God.”
39 Jesus answered, “Evil and sinful people are the ones who want to see a miracle as a sign. But no miracle will be done to prove anything to them. The only sign will be the miracle that happened to the prophet Jonah.
40 Jonah was in the stomach of the big fish for three days and three nights. In the same way, the Son of Man will be in the grave three days and three nights. - Matthew 12 vs 38 - 40

3 And in the morning, if the sky is dark and red, you say that it will be a rainy day. These are signs of the weather. You see these signs in the sky and know what they mean. In the same way, you see the things that are happening now. These are also signs, but you don’t know their meaning.
4 It is the evil and sinful people who want to see a miracle as a sign from God. But no miracle will be done to prove anything to them. The only sign will be the miracle that happened to Jonah.” Then Jesus went away from there. - Matthew 16 vs 3 - 4

11 The Pharisees came to Jesus and asked him questions. They wanted to test him. So they asked him to do a miracle as a sign from God.
12 Jesus sighed deeply and said, “Why do you people ask to see a miracle as a sign? I want you to know that no miracle will be done to prove anything to you.”
13 Then Jesus left them and went in the boat to the other side of the lake. - Mark 8 vs 11 - 13

29 The crowd grew larger and larger. Jesus said, “The people who live today are evil. They ask for a miracle as a sign from God. But no miracle will be done to prove anything to them. The only sign will be the miracle that happened to Jonah.
30 Jonah was a sign for those who lived in Nineveh. It is the same with the Son of Man. He will be a sign for the people of this time. - Luke 11 vs 29 - 30

johnw47:

lost false jw's think that this below is how God's people witness

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

the never ending nonsense and lies of false jw's


Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Venerable612:


You are probably the one who lacks understanding.

The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God! who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Stated differently, God is one in ESSENCE and three in person.

Just as a man is (I) BODY (ii) SOUL; AND (iii) SPIRIT. The difference is that Man is not co-eternal, like God. In the beginning (Genesis 1), God said let us create man in our own image - in the likeness of God.

It is never a contradiction to refer to God has 1 in 3 persons.

These things were express in the words of Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Truuth:
Good one.

Man has a body soul and spirit and exists as a singular being since our soul and spirits are inside of us.

Same is God but as a plural being (Elohim), The Holy spirit is the spirit ''of God'' existing outside of the father and Jesus is the body ''of the father and son of God.

Note the preposition ''of'' which means they have their place in God.

There's no confusion, GOD IS A PLURAL BEING.

Michael548:

Is is not clear from verse 28 that the son is subjected to someone?
How come he is equal to the one he is subjected to?
Please you guys should do more research on Trinity to save further arguments.

Janosky:

You don dey ment tayy tayy tayy.
You neglected your consultations at Uselu

Truuth:

Lemme try and explain, Before christ came to this world, he is ''the word'' and not the ''son'' he became the son after Mary give birth to him, from there he took on two natures. .

Truuth:

Son of man(human nature)
Son of God(divine nature)
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Truuth:


Because he humbled himself and became a man he had to pray to God in that state (human form) he was just like you when he was earth. - He felt hungry, tired, angry, sad, happy etc.
He had to pray to God..

After his resurrection he took on his dual-nature.
He was fully God and fully man..

Truuth:


He is equal to God in his divine form but lower than God in his human form..

Truuth:


Jesus is still a man till today.

Venerable612:


You are probably the one who lacks understanding.

The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God! who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Stated differently, God is one in ESSENCE and three in person.

Just as a man is (I) BODY (ii) SOUL; AND (iii) SPIRIT. The difference is that Man is not co-eternal, like God. In the beginning (Genesis 1), God said let us create man in our own image - in the likeness of God.

It is never a contradiction to refer to God has 1 in 3 persons.

These things were express in the words of Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Janosky:

Your own Bible says No.
Galatians 4:4.
"God sent His son,born of a woman.

Jesus Christ is the son of God in the same manner that Adam is a son of God.


According to your claim,Is Ezekiel the prophet
Son of man(human nature)
Son of God(divine nature)?

Do you agree & believe 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 conflicting with your claim?

After the visit to Mary, did angel Gabriel return to heaven with dual nature?




Do you agree & believe 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 conflicting with your claim?


Do you agree with your Bible,1 Corinthians 15:45,50?

Truuth:
I don't wanna debate this.

Was Angel conceived in Mary's womb. An angel appeared in the physical world delivered a message and went back and you are saying dual nature.

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Truuth:
what happened to Ezekiel and how did he enter this ?..

Truuth:

Christ Is both God and Man, he became man after Mary gave birth to him. Before then he was purely divine.

Janosky:


Oga, do you worship 3 persons ?
In other words, you worship 3 spirits?

Oga, did Jesus Christ worship 3 persons?

Janosky:

Christ was born a man.
Angel Gabriel is a spirit being.
But,Angel Gabriel appear to Mary as a man, do you agree that angel Gabriel had dual nature of man/spirit?


Is Ezekiel son of man?
Is Ezekiel son of God?
Your claim:
Son of man=divine nature, in which Bible verses?



Galatians 4:4, your Bible or your personal opinion.

In the same manner,1 Corinthians 15:27-28,45,50 is holy scriptures conflicting with your claim.
Oga, decide what you believe.

Truuth:
it's okay, you can go

Haines:


THE MOST GREATEST CONFUSION WHICH IS GREATER THAN ALL CONFUSIONS ARE :

1. To say Jesus is God , and then find out it in the Bible that he is a man(John 8:40).

2. To say Jesus is God , and then find out it in the Bible that he is son of God(John 3:16).

3. To say Jesus is God, and then to believe that Jesus die (Roman 10:9).

4. To say Jesus is God , and then find out in the Bible that he Jesus is worshipping God(Luke 6:12)

5. To say Jesus is God , and then to find out in the Bible where it's said Jesus is a servant of God (Act 3:13).

6. To say Jesus is sinless, and then to find out that he got baptism by John.

7. To say Jesus is the only way , and then to find out that Moses way is also a way.

8. To say Jesus was sent unto all , and then to find out that he was sent unto the Israelites (Matthew 15:24).

9. To say Jesus is God ,and then to find out that Jesus was circumcised by the Angel(Luke 2:22).

10. To say Jesus know everything ,and then to find out that he doesn't know the when the judgement day will stand (Mark 13:31).

e.t.c.
This is a confusion which beyond human recognition.

1Corinthians 14:33 it's said"God is not the author confusion.

But today I can see uncountable confusion within Christians dogma.

May God Grant them with a knowledge of understanding so that they can easily archive the Kingdom.

Amen 🤲

SIRTee15:


I can take u on each of your point and defeat it easily. If u ready, reply me.
The bible only makes sense when Jesus is God.
Bible without Jesus is just a history book.

To your point 1. When was the first time in the bible God became man. Definitely not Jesus.

Janosky:


John 20:17,Oga delete Jesus Christ statement from your Bible.
John 20:17 doesn't make sense to you.

SIRTee15:



Verse 28 of same chapter answers your query.
Explain John 20.28.

SIRTee15:


Let's go to point 1 of your questions.
When was the first time God became man in the bible?

SIRTee15:


The bible only becomes the true word of God when Jesus is God.

Without Jesus is God, the bible is just an historical text.

Janosky:

No,Sir.
1st point:
Is Jesus authority superior over Thomas?
Yes.
Therefore, John 20:17,the Master's voice supercedes his disciples exclamation @ John 20:28.


2nd point..
Is exclamation "oh my God!" A reference to God Almighty?
Never.
John 20:28 does NOT reference God Almighty.

Oga, did you see the John 20:28 exclamation in the screenshot?
Yes , indeed.

Janosky:


John 5:37, 43 & John 4:24
Did Jesus Christ agree with you that the God became man?

Not at all.

John 10.30-33, John 8.58

So can u answer my question, when was the first time God became man.



Oga,Your personal claim is not holy scriptures.

1 Thessalonians 2:13, Hebrews 4:12 & John 17:17 & Jeremiah 23:29 the word of God is the holy writ from Genesis to Revelation.

When John calls Jesus "the Word", John is not saying that Jesus is the holy writ.

Rather, John is teaching us that Jesus is the Spokesman representing God,his Father- Hebrews 1:1-2 & John 5:43 & John 15:15 & John 7:16.

Please Sir, get this point understood with clarity.

SIRTee15:


U need to do some reading on bible exegesis if u want to be sound in christian doctrine and effectively defend your argument.
what is Logos, what is rhema. What do u know about the living Logos, spoken logos, eternal Logos and written Logos.
I dont know if u are a atheist, Muslim, agnostic or Jew. But if u are a Christian, u need to attend more bible study classes. u really need it.

Even the verses u quoted supports my assertion, the word of God is an active force, its alive.
And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is indeed at work in you who believe[/i] Thel 2.13

[i]For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. heb 4.12

Jesus is not just the spokesman of God, do u actually read the verses u quoted. This is from Hebrew 1 u quoted.
In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word

What does the highlighted mean to u?

Finally tell me the name of that man John wrote about in Rev 19. 11-16 and who is he?

Janosky:


The prophets were God's Spokesman,now God speaks through his Son says Hebrews 1:1-2.
Oga , Stop adding your own thoughts to the holy scriptures.

According to Hebrews 1:1-2,In the past, the prophets were the Word of God, do you understand that?

1 Thessalonians 2:13, Jeremiah 23:29 & Hebrews 4:12, the entire instructions and injunctions in the holy writ (from Genesis to Revelation) is NOT Jesus Christ the word (a title).

Revelation 19:9 "These are true words that come from God.” (from Genesis to Revelation)

. 13 He wore a robe dipped in blood, and his title was the Word of God.
Oga, understand the difference between the statement of Revelation 19:9 & Revelation 19:13.

SIRTee15:


It's obvious where your problem is coming from. So I can't blame u. It's even a waste of time telling u to attend bible classes because same church will only confuse u the more.

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This one nah RANTS.

SIRTee15:


On Hebrew 1, u stopped at verse 2, what happened to verse 3. U staring the truth at the face and u shouting someone else is adding to the scripture. They really did u strong thing in that Jehovah witness.

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Janosky:


Hebrews 1:3 says what?
"The son (Jesus) is exact representation of his Father's being, sustaining all things by Father's powerful word"

Representation (Dictionary definition)

noun
the action of speaking or acting on behalf of someone or the state of being so represented"


Because the Professor was sent to represent Bubu, some people DECEIVING THEMSELVES that the Professor is Bubu himself.

Clowns

SIRTee15:


won't allow u distort a bible verse and get away with it.
Heb 1.3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Why did u omit the highlighted, because u uncomfortable with the truth. That's forgery and coming from a Christian says a lot about your belief and your person.
God bless u and I pray he opens your eyes to the truth because u far from it.

MaxInDHouse:


As a perfect human like Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} Jesus is the radiance of God's glory {John 14:9} had it been that Adam didn't fail in his own test against Satan we won't need Jesus at all on this planet because Adam was made in the likeness of God {Genesis 1:26} that's why God's word said all humans who are supposed to be radiance of God's glory have fallen short of God's glory due to sin inherited from Adam {Romans 3:23} so don't let anyone deceive you with letters Jesus is God's son just as Adam is God's son! Luke 3:38

MaxInDHouse:


As a perfect human like Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} Jesus is the radiance of God's glory {John 14:9} had it been that Adam didn't fail in his own test against Satan we won't need Jesus at all on this planet because Adam was made in the likeness of God {Genesis 1:26} that's why God's word said all humans who are supposed to be radiance of God's glory have fallen short of God's glory due to sin inherited from Adam {Romans 3:23} so don't let anyone deceive you with letters Jesus is God's son just as Adam is God's son! Luke 3:38