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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by efficiencie(m): 2:11pm On Mar 23, 2023
TenQ:

Interestingly, all Muslims here have been gentle (or humbled). They know that the Hadiths are Sahih therefore they have no arguments against it. They are hoping that this thread will somehow go away,


According to Muslims, Adam was created in the image of Allah BUT they can't explain this. Adam was supposed to be almost 100 feet tall. Allah seems to be more of a TRANSFORMER such that Muslims are confused about his real image. Adam was even created speaking Arabic language.

Sahih Bukhari 6227, Chapter 80
The Book Of Asking Permission
Book Sahih Bukhari

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, Allah created Adam in His image, sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring. Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you) So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah' The Prophet added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and picture of Adam Since then the creation of Adam's (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished continuously) to the present time.

My apologies to the Muslims but their religion is full of bunkum.

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 2:59pm On Mar 23, 2023
efficiencie:


My apologies to the Muslims but their religion is full of bunkum.
LOL!
Too much. Everywhere you turn, there must be attempts to duck tape issues created by their scholars

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Rosemaiden(f): 8:57pm On Mar 23, 2023
TenQ:

We shall continue to Pray for them as we unveil those hidden things in their religion.
Would they ever listen? They seem to have a cloud of darkness around them preventing them from seeing the falsehood they're patronising. Their ears seem to be full of deafening wax making it difficult for them to hear. They even still love Allah after he has told them plainly that he'll cast all of them to hell whether they like it or not. Sometimes I just wonder what's wrong with these people?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 9:07pm On Mar 23, 2023
Rosemaiden:

Would they ever listen? They seem to have a cloud of darkness around them preventing them from seeing the falsehood they're patronising. Their ears seem to be full of deafening wax making it difficult for them to hear. They even still love Allah after he has told them plainly that he'll cast all of them to hell whether they like it or not. Sometimes I just wonder what's wrong with these people?
Unfortunately, they think worse of us Christians.. that we worship 3 gods and reduce God to the level of a human being who was born through the "dirty carnal" of a woman and who sucked the breast etc.

They believe that piousness will grant them paradise even when they see all the contradiction and inconsistencies in their religion. They believe they can make paradise by more religion,

This is why we should pray more for them

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Rosemaiden(f): 9:15pm On Mar 23, 2023
TenQ:

Unfortunately, they think worse of us Christians.. that we worship 3 gods and reduce God to the level of a human being who was born through the "dirty carnal" of a woman and who sucked the breast etc.

They believe that piousness will grant them paradise even when they see all the contradiction and inconsistencies in their religion. They believe they can make paradise by more religion,

This is why we should pray more for them
Only the Lord Himself can deliver them. Satan has a firm grip on his captives.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 9:44pm On Mar 23, 2023
Rosemaiden:

Only the Lord Himself can deliver them. Satan has a firm grip on his captives.
Please don't forget that they need mercy of God to be set free. We'll pray but we shall also preach the word to them.

You might wish to look at these

https://www.nairaland.com/tenq/topics

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Rosemaiden(f): 9:48pm On Mar 23, 2023
TenQ:

Please don't forget that they need mercy of God to be set free. We'll pray but we shall also preach the word to them.

You might wish to look at these

https://www.nairaland.com/tenq/topics
Yeah, may the Lord open their inner eyes in Jesus name.

Thanks for the links.

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 4:13pm On Mar 26, 2023
TenQ:

Unfortunately, they think worse of us Christians.. that we worship 3 gods and reduce God to the level of a human being who was born through the "dirty carnal" of a woman and who sucked the breast etc.

They believe that piousness will grant them paradise even when they see all the contradiction and inconsistencies in their religion. They believe they can make paradise by more religion,

This is why we should pray more for them

Awusubillahi

AntiChristian couldn't even so much as sneeze
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 4:21pm On Mar 26, 2023
Kukutenla:


Awusubillahi

AntiChristian couldn't even so much as sneeze
Not one of them have commented on this post. They would rather apply their muscles on easy to argue posts
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 4:32pm On Mar 26, 2023
TenQ:

Not one of them have commented on this post. They would rather apply their muscles on easy to argue posts
Wow. It choke o

So they know this is true.

I was also shocked to read about Muhammad, Zayd and Zainab. To the neutral mind, what's the difference between Muhammad and OBJ?

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 4:41pm On Mar 26, 2023
Kukutenla:

Wow. It choke o

So they know this is true.

I was also shocked to read about Muhammad, Zayd and Zainab. To the neutral mind, what's the difference between Muhammad and OBJ?
The truth is that 90% of Muslims are more holy than their prophet Mohammed. Imagine a Shameless father-in-law seducing (and finally marrying) the wife of his son


Only the worst of humans will do that to their ward! Muslims are trained to see it as normal behaviour for a prophet of Allah!

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 4:52pm On Mar 26, 2023
TenQ:

The truth is that 90% of Muslims are more holy than their prophet Mohammed. Imagine a Shameless father-in-law seducing (and finally marrying) the wife of his son


Only the worst of humans will do that to their ward! Muslims are trained to see it as normal behaviour for a prophet of Allah!
Was he just father-in-law? From what I read, he was uncle to zainab and adopted father to zayd. He got them to marry each other against their will by virtue of a quranic revelation, then got them to divorce and then married Zainab by virtue of another quranic verse. I guess the verses come only at the whims of Muhammad.

But is AntiChristian aware of this before accusing the Bible as a fake book? Awusubillahi!!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Rosemaiden(f): 4:52pm On Mar 26, 2023
Kukutenla:


Awusubillahi

AntiChristian couldn't even so much as sneeze
They know some truths about their religion but they must continue in that falsehood, otherwise, they'll be beheaded.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 4:57pm On Mar 26, 2023
Rosemaiden:

They know some truths about their religion but they must continue in that falsehood, otherwise, they'll be beheaded.
Well, even if they must continue, I think they should be honest enough to accept the errors instead of claiming Quran is divine and prefect and Muhammed the most prefect man and best of all prophets.
If David could be judged wrong by God for killing Uriah and marrying Bathsheba, how much more a man who lusted after his own cousin who is his adopted son's wife? How is he better than Okonkwo of things fall apart?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Rosemaiden(f): 5:02pm On Mar 26, 2023
Kukutenla:

Well, even if they must continue, I think they should be honest enough to accept the errors instead of claiming Quran is divine and prefect and Muhammed the most prefect man and best of all prophets.
If David could be judged wrong by God for killing Uriah and marrying Bathsheba, how much more a man who lusted after his own cousin who is his adopted son's wife? How is he better than Okonkwo of things fall apart?
You cracked me up with your last sentence.

The man Mohammed led a very terrible life such that if he did those things in this time and age, he would have spent all his life in jail as a criminal. I think TenQ and Advocatejare can relate.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 5:22pm On Mar 26, 2023
Rosemaiden:

You cracked me up with your last sentence.

The man Mohammed led a very terrible life such that if he did those things in this time and age, he would have spent all his life in jail as a criminal. I think TenQ and Advocatejare can relate.
Hmmm. May God open the eyes of the blind and set them free from bondage

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Rosemaiden(f): 6:05pm On Mar 26, 2023
Kukutenla:

Hmmm. May God open the eyes of the blind and set them free from bondage
Amen.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 7:05pm On Mar 26, 2023
Kukutenla:

Was he just father-in-law? From what I read, he was uncle to zainab and adopted father to zayd. He got them to marry each other against their will by virtue of a quranic revelation, then got them to divorce and then married Zainab by virtue of another quranic verse. I guess the verses come only at the whims of Muhammad.

But is AntiChristian aware of this before accusing the Bible as a fake book? Awusubillahi!!
Muslim men are not ordinarily permitted to enter the house of a married woman in the absence of her husband. Mohammed used his closeness to Zaid to scatter this young marriage by the command of Allah (aka satan).

Allah's single purpose is to serve the sexual and material desires of Mohammed!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 10:35pm On Mar 26, 2023
TenQ:

Muslim men are not ordinarily permitted to enter the house of a married woman in the absence of her husband. Mohammed used his closeness to Zaid to scatter this young marriage by the command of Allah (aka satan).

Allah's single purpose is to serve the sexual and material desires of Mohammed!
Are you even sure the Allah really exists?
How did Mohammed get a wild card to marry more than four wives while his followers can't go more than four.
It just seems the rules keep changing to accommodate mugabe Muhammed's whims
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 7:19am On Mar 27, 2023
Kukutenla:

Are you even sure the Allah really exists?
How did Mohammed get a wild card to marry more than four wives while his followers can't go more than four.
It just seems the rules keep changing to accommodate mugabe Muhammed's whims
Mohamed got even more than that
1. Any Muslim woman (married or not) can give herself to Mohamed
2. If Mohamed desires the wife of a Muslim for sex, the husband must divorce her
3. Mohammed is not required to pay for mutah
etc.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 9:26am On Mar 27, 2023
TenQ:

Mohamed got even more than that
1. Any Muslim woman (married or not) can give herself to Mohamed
2. If Mohamed desires the wife of a Muslim for sex, the husband must divorce her
3. Mohammed is not required to pay for mutah
etc.
Really? AntiChristian is this true?
Why then do the sunnis have a problem with the shiites who practice that
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 10:17am On Mar 27, 2023
Kukutenla:

Really? AntiChristian is this true?
Why then do the sunnis have a problem with the shiites who practice that
AntiChristian will never respond to this: ask him to furnish you with the TEN privileges of Mohammed (if he dares)!
LOL
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 10:52am On Mar 27, 2023
TenQ:

AntiChristian will never respond to this: ask him to furnish you with the TEN privileges of Mohammed (if he dares)!
LOL
What are those
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 11:45am On Mar 27, 2023
Kukutenla:

What are those
They are the ten special privileges given ONLY to Muhammad because he is a prophet of Allah
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 1:28pm On Mar 27, 2023
TenQ:

They are the ten special privileges given ONLY to Muhammad because he is a prophet of Allah
I'm interested in knowing more pls!!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 3:43pm On Mar 27, 2023
efficiencie:


My apologies to the Muslims but their religion is full of bunkum.
Any story goes in Islam as long as it is from the GREATEST Prophet and Human Being Ever:
Prophet Mohammed Qutham (SAW) Piece Be upon him!

LOL!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 3:53pm On Mar 27, 2023
90% is based either on MONEY or SEX

Kukutenla:

I'm interested in knowing more pls!!
Here are 16 privileges to Mohammed alone

Here are 16 privileges given ONLY to the Prophet of Islam:
Sahih Muslim 1464 a
1. The BEST of the booty goes to Muhammed. Let's say IF the muslims a attacked A Jewish tribe, and they enter a house, The camel goes to the prophet, the camel goes to the rest of the muslim companions;

2. Muhammed can (forcefully) take a fifth of all the spoils (booty from raiding caravans & tribes);

3. "Al Wisal" (which means continuing the fast through the night to the next night, without eating);

4. Muhammed can have more than 4 women(unlimited number), but NORMAL muslims can have ONLY have a 4 wives;

5. "Yastankih" (or have Sexual Intercourse), with a woman who gives her herself to the prophet. ANY WOMAN can give herself to muhammed, just by saying that. No need for witnesses. He can simply can have Sexual Intercourse with her...;

6. To marry, "Yastankih," without the presence (or permission) of a legal guardian. IMAGINE, A Normal muslim cannot do that !! AGAIN: This privilege is for muhammed ONLY;

7. To marry, "Yastankih," without a dowry i.e. no money or a goods like a camel, robe or a goat;

8. To marry (and have intercourse) during a state of ritual consecration and purification. Meaning: Even if he is in the "state of ihram", he can have sex, but normal muslims cannot do that ...! (Ihram: a sacred state which a Muslim must enter, in order to perform the major pilgrimage (Hajj) or the minor pilgrimage (Umrah);

9. The annulment of an oath he may make to his women. He can take an oath and he can break the oath. Only He can do that in Islam, but normal muslims cannot!;

10. If Muhammad looks at a Married woman (and desires her) THEN HER HUSBAND IS FORCED TO DIVORCE HER AND HAND HER OVER TO MUHAMMAD, SO THE PROPHET CAN HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH HER. Ibn Al A’rabi said: "This is what the servant of the two holy mosques has also said, as was clear to the scholars FROM THE STORY OF ZAID which also had this meaning.";

11. That the prophet released Safiyyah (from her captured status) and he considered her release as her dowry;

12. To enter Mecca without being in a state of ritual purification;

13. To fight in Mecca;

14. That he is not inherited by anyone at all. This was mentioned in the oath of absolution for when a man approaches death due to illness, most of his possessions are taken away, so that he does not have more than a third left for him. But the possessions of the prophet remained for him, as stated in the verse of inheritance and in Surat Mariam;

15. His marriage is still considered effective after his death (ALL his wives can NOT re-marry anyone else after his death. EXAMPLE: Aisha did not marry anyone);

16. If he divorces a woman she remains prohibited to everyone and may not be married "Nikah," again to someone else.

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:

I felt jealous of the women who offered themselves to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said: Then when Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this:" You may defer any one of them you wish, and take to yourself any you wish; and if you desire any you have set aside (no sin is chargeable to you)" (xxxiii. 51), I ('A'isha.) said: It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.




Someone ( TruthHurts1 ) had even written about it on Nairaland but Muslims dodged it like plague
https://www.nairaland.com/6334279/16-privileges-enjoyed-muhammad-which#97487049


This is also written in their FATWA (Fatwa No: 238735) from
https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/238735/the-privileges-particular-to-the-prophet-sallallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Kukutenla: 6:55pm On Mar 27, 2023
TenQ:
90% is based either on MONEY or SEX


Here are 16 privileges to Mohammed alone

Here are 16 privileges given ONLY to the Prophet of Islam:
Sahih Muslim 1464 a
1. The BEST of the booty goes to Muhammed. Let's say IF the muslims a attacked A Jewish tribe, and they enter a house, The camel goes to the prophet, the camel goes to the rest of the muslim companions;

2. Muhammed can (forcefully) take a fifth of all the spoils (booty from raiding caravans & tribes);

3. "Al Wisal" (which means continuing the fast through the night to the next night, without eating);

4. Muhammed can have more than 4 women(unlimited number), but NORMAL muslims can have ONLY have a 4 wives;

5. "Yastankih" (or have Sexual Intercourse), with a woman who gives her herself to the prophet. ANY WOMAN can give herself to muhammed, just by saying that. No need for witnesses. He can simply can have Sexual Intercourse with her...;

6. To marry, "Yastankih," without the presence (or permission) of a legal guardian. IMAGINE, A Normal muslim cannot do that !! AGAIN: This privilege is for muhammed ONLY;

7. To marry, "Yastankih," without a dowry i.e. no money or a goods like a camel, robe or a goat;

8. To marry (and have intercourse) during a state of ritual consecration and purification. Meaning: Even if he is in the "state of ihram", he can have sex, but normal muslims cannot do that ...! (Ihram: a sacred state which a Muslim must enter, in order to perform the major pilgrimage (Hajj) or the minor pilgrimage (Umrah);

9. The annulment of an oath he may make to his women. He can take an oath and he can break the oath. Only He can do that in Islam, but normal muslims cannot!;

10. If Muhammad looks at a Married woman (and desires her) THEN HER HUSBAND IS FORCED TO DIVORCE HER AND HAND HER OVER TO MUHAMMAD, SO THE PROPHET CAN HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH HER. Ibn Al A’rabi said: "This is what the servant of the two holy mosques has also said, as was clear to the scholars FROM THE STORY OF ZAID which also had this meaning.";

11. That the prophet released Safiyyah (from her captured status) and he considered her release as her dowry;

12. To enter Mecca without being in a state of ritual purification;

13. To fight in Mecca;

14. That he is not inherited by anyone at all. This was mentioned in the oath of absolution for when a man approaches death due to illness, most of his possessions are taken away, so that he does not have more than a third left for him. But the possessions of the prophet remained for him, as stated in the verse of inheritance and in Surat Mariam;

15. His marriage is still considered effective after his death (ALL his wives can NOT re-marry anyone else after his death. EXAMPLE: Aisha did not marry anyone);

16. If he divorces a woman she remains prohibited to everyone and may not be married "Nikah," again to someone else.

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:

I felt jealous of the women who offered themselves to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said: Then when Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this:" You may defer any one of them you wish, and take to yourself any you wish; and if you desire any you have set aside (no sin is chargeable to you)" (xxxiii. 51), I ('A'isha.) said: It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.




Someone ( TruthHurts1 ) had even written about it on Nairaland but Muslims dodged it like plague
https://www.nairaland.com/6334279/16-privileges-enjoyed-muhammad-which#97487049


This is also written in their FATWA (Fatwa No: 238735) from
https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/238735/the-privileges-particular-to-the-prophet-sallallaahu-alayhi-wa-sallam
Wow. In effect, he gets to have a lower moral standard than the people he claims to lead to a better way
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 7:13pm On Mar 27, 2023
Kukutenla:

Wow. In effect, he gets to have a lower moral standard than the people he claims to lead to a better way
Perfectly said Bro!
Justification for liecentous living!

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