TheBillyonaire:
Yoruba means curning. People who are not straight-forward. Reno Omokri refused to say it because he is searching for friendship with the new INEC President. Shame.

From the analysis, Lagos, also known as Eko, belongs to Bini people who do not think it is worth their time, hence the reason it becomes a No Man's Land.

It is in Lagos that I made my life, and it is in Lagos that I mastered being human but I must say that despite these, I must tell truth always, even if it hurts me as a Lagosian.

Lagos belongs to all who own a peace of it.

DodadaKoKigbe:


Another Ibo heating up the polity with 'Lagos is Edoland.' Even the Edo people have rested the case but trust Ibo man to look for trouble and run away when trouble start. Shay na Oba of bin send you or you're just doing it for IPOB? If na Oba of bini send you, tell that fat gay boy village headmaster to come and collect Lagos if e sure am?

TheBillyonaire:


Typical tribalist Yoruba.

Read the write up from Reno Omokri and go to Wikipaedia to find the meaning of Yoruba. Are you surprise that Fulani's gave you the name of your tribe, which means 'curnining'? I think you have to change the name of your tribe instead of blamining others for your tribalism.

I am from the Niger Delta, so your silly assumption as a curning tribalist means nothing. I wonder what people see in Lagos. I have houses there but I intend to rent them out to those who can survive in such a cosmopolitan traffic mess. You think you are enjoying because you have not stepped out to see Tier 3 development models in other locations. I can not trade my lifestyle to live in a slum.

Curning little brat.

DodadaKoKigbe:


So, you're from Edo, no wonder. Continue to heat up the polity. Please whenever you say 'Lagos is Edoland' make sure you tell the truth and say you're from Edo. That way Ibos will not bear the brunt of the anger you're are generating and encouraging all over social media. And tell that your useless Oba of bini the village headmaster to come and collect it if e sure am. No be by mouth o na by action. Swegbe!

TheBillyonaire:


In your next rant, learn paragraphing, cos my eyes has not mastered the typographical model of moronic imbeciles. Your understanding of geography is abysmal, first you assumed I am Igbo, and now I must be Edo, and what do you really mean by Edo, when there are multiples of tribes in the Edo/Delta axis.

DodadaKoKigbe:


Edo man I have exposed you. You were ranting the same 'na Edo get Lagos' several days ago on here. But then you claimed to be Ibo. Now, after exposing you as Edo, you come dey speak big English. Go and tell your foolish fat boy of a king that he should come and collect the Lagos. Wetin e dey wait for?

TheBillyonaire:


You can not fight multiples of tribes at the same time. You have lost Lagos to Igbos even though it belongs to Bini people. Now you want to take your tribalism against the real owners of Lagos?

Is this attitude not why Fulanis call you 'Curning'? A name you now answer as your tribal name with pride? Shame

I love tribalism especially when no one knows my tribe to insult...hahahahaha

Ride on, lets enjoy.

DodadaKoKigbe:


Another Ibo heating up the polity with 'Lagos is Edoland.' Even the Edo people have rested the case but trust Ibo man to look for trouble and run away when trouble start. Shay na Oba of bin send you or you're just doing it for IPOB? If na Oba of bini send you, tell that fat gay boy village headmaster to come and collect Lagos if e sure am?

Christistruth03:
Lagos is Aworiland

Lagos is 100% Yorubaland

The Awori are 100% Yorubas and from Ife Originally



On the day the British Colonial Government first landed in Lagos in 1851 Oyo controlled Badagry Area including Seme Which they had taken from the king of Dahomey along with Porto Novo (Ajase) in War .

The Oyos had initially also taken Allada ,Ouidah and Cotonou at the time but the King of Dahomey had managed to take them back while the Oyo were very busy fighting the Power drunk Afonja and the Fulani at Ilorin

The Oyos had fought Dahomey as Allies of the Eguns
aare oona kakanfo oyabi had led the Oyo Army

The Abeokuta Egba Army Controlled all of Lagos Mainland including Iddo Island and all the Territory from there to Abeokuta Which they had won in the Ota War of 1842 in Which the Oyos of Ibadan fought as Allies of Oba Kosoko and the Awori and received such a heavy defeat at the hands of the Egbas that the Ibadan Army had to be smuggled back home.

The whole Episode almost led to the downfall of Basorun Oluyole back at Ibadan

The Ijebu Army Controlled Everything East and North of Lekki including Victoria Island

All Oba Kosoko Controlled was the Slave market and Port of Isale Eko on Lagos Island, Even Ikoyi belonged to the Onikoyi who was Awori Yoruba with Oyo roots

Again if you hear that Yorubas spent 100 years fighting themselves till 1878,

Just know that the Egba, Ijebu and Oyo Which included Ibadan were also fighting for Control of the Coast of Lagos

Control of the Coast of Lagos meant Titanic Wealth. but unfortunately much of that was from the Slave trade

The Lagos territory Controlled by the Egbas , Oyo and Oba Kosoko belonged to the Awori People who were the most Peaceful and accommodating of all Yoruba Clans


Eko is Yoruba short for Ereko which means field and for Confirmation Ereko Market where the Egbas and Ijebu traded is still on Lagos Island today

Also Eko Ende in Osun State was one of the Locations of the Jalumi War of 1878

The Awori have inhabited Lagos since the 13th Century when they migrated from Ile Ife led by Olofin Ogunfuminire who was a great grandson of Oduduwa and a nephew of Oranmiyan who headed to Benin around the same period

The Land on Which Isale Eko of the Oba of Lagos is located belongs to the Awori Yoruba Aromire family till today

Aromire was one of the Sons of Olofin Ogunfuminire

The Otun Ekiti People migrated from Lagos in the 15 th Century and share the same ancestry with the Awori of Lagos

It was the returnee Egba Slaves who had been Converted to Christianity at Sierra Leone Bishop ajayi crowther included that asked the British Queen Victoria to invade Oba Kosoko’s Lagos in order to finally end the Evil Slave trade

Bishop ajayi crowther had met with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert her Husband at Windsor Castle over the Issue of how to finally end the Slave Trade in Lagos on 18th November 1851 and the Royal British Navy Bombarded Lagos one month Later on 26th of December 1851.

Bishop ajayi crowther who was originally from Osogun near Oyo had himself at age 13 been sold to a Portuguese Slave Trader at Lagos for a bottle of Wine and some Tobacco leaves

Capt Labulo Davies who later married Queen Victoria’s adopted Daughter Sarah Bonnetta (Aina) originally from Ilaro , was on the British ship that Bombarded Oba Kosoko’s Lagos in 1951 and Oba Akitoye whom the British had restored to the Throne of Lagos had first met the British Missionaries at Abeokuta while he was exiled there as Abeokuta was also Oba Akitoyes Owu mother’s Hometown he had promised. to end the Evil Slave Trade if the British helped to restore him to his Throne which his nephew Oba Kosoko had Usurped with the help of some local and Portuguese Slave traders after Oba Akintoye had driven the Portuguese Slave Traders out of Lagos 6 years earlier

Slave Trading was Oba Kosoko’s Business and his Slave Market was at Ereko Market of Isale Eko on Lagos Island where he also sold European made Goods

Ok listen to the Oba of Lagos Himself
At 25 mins of the Video below the what did Oba of lagos mean when he Said
"I am a Yoruba monarch" ?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0IK0SL9s0&t=1740s


Oba of Lagos Olugun Kuture and Oba Kosoko had been allies of Oyo
Baddagry was under Oyo and
ologun kutere had Assisted the Oyo as an ally to regain Control of badagry after there was a rebellion there by an Usurper

All of the Egun People from Badagry to Ghana were under the Protection of the Alaafin of Oyo

Ologbo147:
Lander, who visited Badagry in 1830, reported that the corpse of the late chief of that town had been sent to Benin and Landolphe reported that Wydah was tributary to Benin in his day


This same lagos, just dae play you hear, history is not emotions, where Badagry dae again? It appears even more supremely that the Word Eko is a Benin relic on Lagos

As "Eko". It is in its purest and natural form. I wonder what would have taken it from Oko or Ereko to Eko when it is pronounced by the same people. A Benin man referring to Lagos would not say Lagos when speaking Benin but Eko, That undeniably shows its deep seated relationship Benin have with lagos as she appears strongly more than ever to have been the founder of the word

Christistruth03:


Benin had influence along the Coast mainly as a Trading Power and Trading Partner of the Portuguese and not as a Military Power

The Ijebu Remo People had driven Benin out of Lagos Areas after it tried to subjugate them Militarily before 1820 a small remnant was left on Lagos Island at Isale Eko as an act of Mercy since the only place they could have escaped to was the bottom of the Atlantic ocean, Since the Ijebu's were also fantastic fighters on Water

The People who did the Actual Trading in Lagos were the Ijebu and sometimes the Yoruba speaking Itsekiri People later on they were Joined by the Egba People and some Oyos who mainly supplied Slaves who were the victims of the Fulani Jihad in Northern Nigeria

The Ijebu Remo and the Benin People were Close earlier on because Oranmiyan the first Oba of Benin and the first Oba of Ikorodu had the same mother and the Oba of Ikorodu had followed Oranmiyan to take Possession Benin

Badagry was already under the Alaafin of Oyo by the 17th Century and with Porto Novo was the Alaafin of Oyo's Sea Ports

There are 2 Places named Eko in Osun State

Eko Akala and Eko Ende

The Awori Yoruba of Lagos migrated from Ife in Osun State and Lagos was also known as Eko Aromire

Which means Aromire's field or Farm

Ereko means Field in Yoruba,
Erekosun means Island in Yoruba

Eko is short for both Ereko and Erekosun



Title: Badagry 1784-1863. the political and commercial history of a pre-colonial lagoonside community in south west Nigeria
Author(s): Sorensen-Gilmour, Caroline pg 153 ,156

Ologbo147:
Lander, who visited Badagry in 1830, reported that the corpse of the late chief of that town had been sent to Benin and Landolphe reported that Wydah was tributary to Benin in his day

On the west, Benin rule undoubtedly extended, at least from the 16th century, to Lagos,Badagry and Wydah

He was so sure going by the eye witness account at his disposal

I do not know what you mean by trading power but I do not think a trading power would have this much influence over a people. These are eyewitness account. why will the body of the Badagry chief in 1830 be sent to Benin if it was just mere trading partner or power.

you have to consolidate every claim you make here with proof, especially of Ijebu remo driving Bini out of lagos

This is the book, the Benin Kingdom and the Edo speaking people of southwestern Nigeria by Bradbury

Ologbo147:
Lander, who visited Badagry in 1830, reported that the corpse of the late chief of that town had been sent to Benin and Landolphe reported that Wydah was tributary to Benin in his day

On the west, Benin rule undoubtedly extended, at least from the 16th century, to Lagos,Badagry and Wydah

He was so sure going by the eye witness account at his disposal

I do not know what you mean by trading power but I do not think a trading power would have this much influence over a people. These are eyewitness account. why will the body of the Badagry chief in 1830 be sent to Benin if it was just mere trading partner or power.

you have to consolidate every claim you make here with proof, especially of Ijebu remo driving Bini out of lagos

This is the book, the Benin Kingdom and the Edo speaking people of southwestern Nigeria by Bradbury

Christistruth03:



Document below is from
Sir alfred moloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos 1890
Confirming that Lagos is Yorubaland and that Oyo Once Ruled over Benin
and to the Sea, the Eguns are a Brother Clan of the Ewe of Dahomey ,Oyo was their Overlord over all Egun and Ewe People from Badagry to Ghana

Including Allada Cotonou Whydah
Most of Dahomey and Togo and the East of the Volta River in Ghana

Alaafin Oranmiyan was the first Alaafin that was overlord over Benin ,

Ologbo147:
whether Oyo's rule extended to Benin at any time is not our axe to grind here, we might discuss that one in another thread(create a new thread for it, let me thrash you there) , if there is anything I have noticed, the yorubas have mastery in deflective argument.

The major point here is if Bini's rule as an Empire extended to Lagos. It sure did going by the evidence above and it was one of a father and son or an Overlord and a tributary state.

Besides you have not provided any evidence of your claim that Ijebu Remo drove Bini out of lagos as requested by me . let us establish one point before running to another. This thread is about Benin and lagos

On the west, Benin rule undoubtedly extended, at least from the 16th century, to Lagos,Badagry and Wydah

This is an absolute statement by Bradbury, are we going to wish it away, he drew his conclusion from two eye witness account

Lander who visited Badagry in 1830 reported that the corpse of the late chief of the town has been sent to Benin and Landolphe reported that Wydah was tributary to Benin in his day

Lastly you have to provide an eyewitness account or any write up that support your claim of Alaafin Oranmiyan who presumably was the first Alaafin of Oyo and ruled around the 1300 century ruling over Benin when You only became an empire in 1680. As you can see from that write up I posted earlier, none seem to have ruled over the other as they had respective sphere of influences and their boundaries were situated at Otun Ekiti. Infact in the preceding century to this very one, the Alafin was reported to have said that he has sent to his friend the Oba of Benin to assist him with men to prosecute a war

Christistruth03:



It was the Alaafin of Oyo that the British took over the Control of Badagry from

It was the Ooni of Ife tbat told his two sons the Alaafin of Oyo and the Oba of Benin not to fight themselves because they were brothers

He drew a line from Otun Ekiti to somewhere in the Lagos Area and told the Alaafin do all you fighting to the East of this line i have drawn and to the Oba of Benin the Ooni told him do all you fighting to the West of this line but i must not hear that you are fighting yourselves

Benin were in the Lagos Area on the basis of their strong family ties with the Ijebu Remo People

It was the same Ijebu Remo People that Drove Benin out of Lagos when Benin became Power drunk, forgot that the Ijebu Remo were their Close relarives and attempted to dominate them Mi!itarily because their previous relationship with Benin had been one of mutual Cooperation just like the 4 Yoruba Clans Egba,Owu Gbagura and Oke Ona !iving together peacefully today at Abeokuta under the agreed !leadership of the Alake Military Conquest has nothing to do with it
The
You asked for more evidence that Ijebu drove Benin out of Lagos , till today almost half of Lagos State is Ijebuland and there are no Benins there that is evidence on ground

By the way Benin attacked Otun Ekiti 4 Times but never defeated It
That was why Otun Ekiti was in Charge of the defence of the Ekiti People

Gen Ogedengbe of Ilesa and the Ekiti Parapo invaded the Benin kingdom in the 1870s and took control of Parts of it

Ologbo147:
That seem not to be true going by the excerpt above, Lander was in Badagry in 1830, and witnessed the body of the late chief of the town taken to Benin for burial.

Again according to the write up, it is said that in the reign of Ehengbuda,the armies of the Oba of Benin and the Alaafin of Oyo planted trees at Otun in the Ekiti country to demarcate the respective sphere of influence of the two empires, this seem to have been done on the basis of respect for the military might and strength of the two parties, this is supported by what the Alaafin of Oyo told the official in succeeding centuries that he has asked his friend the Oba of Benin to send him men to prosecute a war. Please I would need a written material, I would relish an eyewitness account the most to support your argument just the way you've written it there

please I will need written source to consolidate on the argument that Benin and Ijebu remo are related, and also written source on how they drove Bini out of lagos when she became 'powerdrunk' according to you

I will also need written source on how Benin attacked Otun Ekiti four times but never defeated it, I would relish an eye witness account the most

Again this is also deflective as usual,Benin empire has been in existence four hundred and 30 years before Ogendegbe. And the boundaries were long drawn before that time as Oyo itself became an Empire in 1680

Christistruth03:


Alaafin of Oyo was Sovereign Overlord of Badagry

In the Letter Oba of Benin wrote to Oba of Lagos there were only 2 places Oba of Benin claimed to have Controlled in Lagos State

The first was Isale Eko on Lagos Island please that didn't inc!ude Ikoyi o! which is on the same
Lagos Island O!
Ikoyi was fully Controlled by the Yoruba Awori and had o business with Benin

The second Town had already rebelled from Benin Rule but its name was not mentioned

Personally I believe it was Ado Odo near Badagry because it used to be called Ado Bini before the Awori changed it's name to Ado Awori after a War there in which the Awori were victorious

The Oba of Lagos was not really a King in the Yoruba sense But he was more like a Baba Loja
of the Lagos Slave markets representing the Oba of Benin who b became a Powerful Merchant Prince

Oba of Lagos didn't control any Land on Lagos Island not to talk of beyond it


For example MC Oluomo is called Oba Oshodi but he is not a real king but over the Agbero, Touts ,Area boys and Transporters he is their undisputed king

Oba of Lagos was the Undisputed king of the Lagos Slave markets

The real king of the Awori People in tha that Area was the Oloto of Oto who wears an Ife Crown

Ologbo147:
There is nothing to suggest so, as in that same Badagry, Lander was on ground in 1830 and the body of the then late chief was taken to Benin and not to Oyo.

If at all an Oba claimed to have controlled just two territories in Lagos, that might be within his reign! As he might not be definite about the territories the Oba's before him controlled as we can see from lander's account, Badagry was in the strong grip of Benin

I would like to see the letter though,
No Oba obtained literacy in writing up till Oba Akenzua,who was that Oba?
it still won't change a thing owing to my preceding paragraph

If the Oba of Lagos was not the real Oba of lagos, that is not the discussion here, again this is deflective

Again if it included Ikoyi, that is not also the discussion here, this is also a deflective argument

Christistruth03:


Badagry was definitely under the Alaafin when the British Arrived



Title: Badagry 1784-1863. the political and commercial history of a pre-colonial lagoonside community in south west Nigeria
Author(s): Sorensen-Gilmour, Caroline pg 153 ,156

Ologbo147:
1777 and 1830 which one seem closer to when the british came around, Badagry was definitely under Benin as at the time the british came around