[b]i just read an article about islam and it greatly disturbed me. i think the problem is that christians have a misconception about islam and the muslims about christianity. we are fed alot of stories that make us hate the other but i am a muslim with alot of christian frendz, in all these i have found a way to keep an open mind and get to know the person as an individual b4 making my judgement. there are bad christians and bad muslims, simply put there are bad people!
that muslims in the north kill christians it is just a matter of ignorant people taking a slight chance to create disorder and distort peace. most of them are not even educated islamically or even other wise. they just take the upportunity to kill rob rape and loot. amidst all these there are muslims who when such crisis are taking place do hide non muslims in their house to protect them from all that!!! my family has done that in so many cases. who said even muslims dont get killed in such occurences? some even loose their life because they are hiding non muslims in their house and are discovered!!
the bombings that take place in the woprld are just a case of people taking verses from the quran and interpreting them to suit their own purpose they are mostly ignorant!!!! as i am sure even in christianity there are people that interpret the bible to suit their personal purpose though they undoubtedly dont kill or bomb up innocent people.
i'd just like to state for the record that islam is a religion of peace that does not encourage such acts. we need to drop all these and learn to live with eachother as individuals. islam does not encourage us to force people`to believe in ALLAH it is a decision that needs to be made voluntarily. i believe in islam u believe in christianity so wat? why cant we just live together harmoniously and without prejudice?[/b] [/b]

Talk is cheap a very close look at the koran will tell you that all what you have stated are not in line with the principles of the koran. infidels are the enemies of allah it is clearly written in the koran, unserious moslems will like to believe  and behave like you but the serious minded ones always know that the infidels are disliked by allah and don't deserve any thing good in life. I know very well what i am saying as a former muslim. because i have lived the life.

slimlady:

[b]i just read an article about islam and it greatly disturbed me. i think the problem is that christians have a misconception about islam and the muslims about christianity. we are fed alot of stories that make us hate the other but i am a muslim with alot of christian frendz, in all these i have found a way to keep an open mind and get to know the person as an individual before making my judgement. there are bad christians and bad muslims, simply put there are bad people!
that muslims in the north kill christians it is just a matter of ignorant people taking a slight chance to create disorder and distort peace. most of them are not even educated islamically or even other wise. they just take the upportunity to kill rob rape and loot. amidst all these there are muslims who when such crisis are taking place do hide non muslims in their house to protect them from all that!!! my family has done that in so many cases. who said even muslims don't get killed in such occurences? some even loose their life because they are hiding non muslims in their house and are discovered!!
the bombings that take place in the woprld are just a case of people taking verses from the quran and interpreting them to suit their own purpose they are mostly ignorant!!!! as i am sure even in christianity there are people that interpret the bible to suit their personal purpose though they undoubtedly don't kill or bomb up innocent people.
i'd just like to state for the record that islam is a religion of peace that does not encourage such acts. we need to drop all these and learn to live with eachother as individuals. islam does not encourage us to force people`to believe in ALLAH it is a decision that needs to be made voluntarily. i believe in islam u believe in christianity so what? why can't we just live together harmoniously and without prejudice?[/b] [/b]

Politically correct Islam. Praise God

I pray this message of Islamodeeperlife spreads like wildfire.
We are tired of burying innocent people cut down as allahs name is chanted by his foot soldiers.

mazaje:

Talk is cheap a very close look at the koran will tell you that all what you have stated are not in line with the principles of the koran. infidels are the enemies of allah it is clearly written in the koran, unserious moslems will like to believe and behave like you but the serious minded ones always know that the infidels are disliked by allah and don't deserve any thing good in life. I know very well what i am saying as a former muslim. because i have lived the life.

PLease tell us more.
What were you taught?

slimlady I agree with the spirit of your post, which concerns peace and harmony between Muslims and Christians. Now rather than disputing your presentation of Islam as the others have done, I will take your word for it. That said, I believe that moderate muslims need to do more to dissolve the unflattering image Islam has today. For example, just look at these posts from a Northern Nigerian/muslim internet forum:

[list]
[li]On this recent thread about Benazir Bhutto's assasination, certain folks gang up on a fellow muslim for insinuating that the Al-Quaeda is not a proper Islamic movement.  [/li]
[li]Here, the forumner Musin unabashedly defends his support for Palestinian terrorist groups and the practice of suicide bombing.[/li]
[li] This one is rather disturbing. I wish I knew exactly what the thread starter said, but I don't understand hausa. From the subsequent posts it seems that he contemplated lynching a fellow human being for allegedly insulting sacred Islamic icons and symbols. . Thankfully the other muslims strongly rejected the idea.  [/li][/list]

These are just recent examples. Bottom line is that I hope that people like you are vigorously engaged in intellectual jihad against such elements among you. Otherwise, your preaching to us is in vain.

Peace unto you  

slimlady:

i just read an article about islam and it greatly disturbed me. i think the problem is that christians have a misconception about islam and the muslims about christianity. we are fed alot of stories that make us hate the other but i am a muslim with alot of christian frendz, in all these i have found a way to keep an open mind and get to know the person as an individual before making my judgement. there are bad christians and bad muslims, simply put there are bad people!
that muslims in the north kill christians it is just a matter of ignorant people taking a slight chance to create disorder and distort peace. most of them are not even educated islamically or even other wise. they just take the upportunity to kill rob rape and loot. amidst all these there are muslims who when such crisis are taking place do hide non muslims in their house to protect them from all that!!! my family has done that in so many cases. who said even muslims don't get killed in such occurences? some even loose their life because they are hiding non muslims in their house and are discovered!!
the bombings that take place in the woprld are just a case of people taking verses from the quran and interpreting them to suit their own purpose they are mostly ignorant!!!! as i am sure even in christianity there are people that interpret the bible to suit their personal purpose though they undoubtedly don't kill or bomb up innocent people.
i'd just like to state for the record that islam is a religion of peace that does not encourage such acts. we need to drop all these and learn to live with eachother as individuals. islam does not encourage us to force people`to believe in ALLAH it is a decision that needs to be made voluntarily. i believe in islam u believe in christianity so what? why can't we just live together harmoniously and without prejudice?

+osisi has already said all i wanted to say and Mazaje has punctured your air of hypocrisy.
Christians have no problem with islam rather islam has a problem with the world. Rather than sermonising about we living in harmony you would be better off taking ur message to ur muslim ummah. Christians have been living in harmony until muslims decided to invade Jerusalem, Europe, North Africa and are still working assiduously to conquer the rest of the world for allah.

First of all the Muslims are trying to search the Bible to prove their Islam and Muhammad's teachings.

Muslims out there, Why do you search the Bible scriptures for some truth when you Muslims declare the Bible as been tampered and changed You Muslims even claim the Bible is not the truth, but here you are using the Bible to declare it talks about Islam. Well if its a lie and a changed doctrine as you claim it is, start seeking other ways to prove yourself and your religion.

The Muslims need to go back to the Torah of the Jews like we do in the Bible under the Old Testament. Nothing claims Ishmael as the promised seed. He is a slave woman, Hagar's son, borne to Abraham when Sarah was childless. God promised Abraham that Sarah will bear a son and that, to Isaac, his offspring is the promised seed. That seed refers to Jesus lineage. And if u check Mary's ancestors, they came from David's line. Even Joseph came from David's line. What God said about Mary was that she will be with child through the Holy Spirit, not through God's seed. It is blasphemy to even say such a thing! God is not borne by anyone! No christians claim that and neither does Christians claim that Mary was God's wife! So get your facts right. And besides Isaiah did prophecy out of the Line of David a scepter shall come forward, so this clearly claims the lineage of Isaac, the blessed seed shall come forth, the root of Jesse, if you follow the lineage, it will come to Jesus lineage thru his mother Mary. As said, Mary's dad is Joachim, from the root of Jesse, from the lineage of King David, from Isaac!

Isaiah spoke about the Messiah, the same Messiah the Jews are waiting till today. The muslims call Jesus Isa Al Masihi! Muslims, go back to your history and find in your very QURAN it claims Jesus as the Masihi (Messiah) and they even call Jesus Ruh Allah! Read this and tell me about it - "the Qur'an calls him the Messiah (Al Masih), the Word of God (Kalimat Allah) and the Spirit [Soul] of God (Ruh Allah). (4:171,172) These supernatural descriptions and titles have caused many Muslims to seek the truth about who Jesus really is."

Another verse - We gave unto Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs [of Allah's sovereignty], and we supported him with the Holy Spirit [ar-Ruh-al Qudus]," (Surah 2, Al-Baqarah, The Cow: 87).

About the proclaimation that Jesus is the Messiah, refer to Surah 3:44 which says - And remember when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah). (45) He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous.

Notice in Surah 3:32 Allah proclaims this - Lo! Allah preferred Adam and Noah and the Family of Abraham and the Family of 'Imran above (all His) creatures. Who is Imran? Mary's father right? Christians know him as Joachim, husband of Anne. They are from the lineage of Isaac, not Ishmael.

Well start seeking your own Quran and find those words "We" that Allah says in most of His sentences. e.g.

Surah 2:33-34 :
And when We said unto the angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He demurred through pride, and so became a disbeliever. (34) And We said: O Adam! Dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and eat ye freely (of the fruits) thereof where ye will; but come not nigh this tree lest ye become wrong-doers.
Notice the "WE" in this verses?

Surah 2 : 38
But they who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful owners of the Fire.
notice the "Our" in this verse?

Surah 2 : 48
And (remember) when We did deliver you from Pharaoh's folk, who were afflicting you with dreadful torment, slaying your sons and sparing your women: that was a tremendous trial from your Lord.
Notice the "We" again in this verse?

Surah 2 : 50 - 52
And when We did appoint for Moses forty nights (of solitude), and then ye chose the calf, when he had gone from you, and were wrong-doers. (51) Then, even after that, We pardoned you in order that ye might give thanks. (52) And when We gave unto Moses the Scripture and the criterion (of right and wrong), that ye might be led aright.
Notice the "WE" a couple of times here again?

So tell me why did Allah proclaim "We" so many times in just so far, 1 surah that I read? Does this not claim the Trinity according to the Christian Faith and who Jesus is - The Son of God? Trinity = God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit? DON'T be mistaken, muslims, cause you muslims have all the time believed that we Christians refer to the trinity as God, Jesus and Mary! WRONG! It is God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

I did not read the Quran to seek Christianity and its truth but I seeked to question its own quranic verses as claimed by you Muslims, is the original WORD of God, written by His hands.

Thus, its not like the Christians simply read the Bible without questioning it and asking God. We Christians READ and Meditate on the Bible and pray to God for His LIGHT to guide us through each of His Word in the Bible. Its because of this prayer for guidance, Christians usually see the Bible come alive in our daily lives. Try it for yourself if you think I am cheating you about this fact.

Its time the muslims also read the Quran and question God who is our Loving Father of Nabi Adam's family lineage. In the end we shall meet at judgement day but notice the Quran claiming the reward is with the People of the Book as well ?

Read this - Of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] are a portion that stand (For the right): They rehearse the Signs of God all night long, and they prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 3:113-114)"

"And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)"

Please also know that the Christians are the living ones who experiences the true Holy Spirit (God's Spirit) when they are given the gift of prayer, prophecy, speaking in tongues, and healing, etc, Has any muslim ever seen visions? Of Jesus? Of His prophets? Do not claim it is Satan, cause Satan also can come in the form of angels as we also claim but Jesus does not come with just visions! He comes to those He chooses to SAVE, and He heals them their sick, even today. Have you been to any Healing rallies? Have you seen the power of Jesus yet? Jesus did not come only for us Christians, He came to seek the world who don't know Him. If only you tried to read what He meant and His history, you will understand.

If you don't trust the Bible, try seeking history to see how accurate the Bible has been in the things that happened in the past, including the death of Jesus on the Cross during Roman Empire times. History can prove a lot if you only go deeply in it.

When we drive out demons in the name of Jesus, the demons shriek at the sound of that name and it can be driven out. But we can never use in the name of Muhammad, cause the demons just laughed about it. It happened seriously with one of our church demon possessions!

So shall we debate on it professionally pondering words and phrases?

it is true that we all think wat we believe in is tru