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Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by godisgreat: 3:34am On Aug 14, 2006
what do u mean fed every friday, and let mr tell david jesus is not the son of god, he has no son!!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by godisgreat: 3:35am On Aug 14, 2006
and oh yah, allahuakbar!!!!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 3:42am On Aug 14, 2006
godisgreat:

what do u mean fed every friday, and let mr tell david jesus is not the son of god, he has no son!!

Which God are you talking about? My living one or your dead one no one has ever seen or even knows whether he exists?
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 3:43am On Aug 14, 2006
godisgreat:

and oh yah, allahuakbar!!!!


Dont waste your time, even terrorists use the same phrase to commit mass murder!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by godisgreat: 4:00am On Aug 14, 2006
hey man no one saw ur god before either!!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 4:01am On Aug 14, 2006
godisgreat:

hey man no one saw your God before either!!

No point arguing with you, keep up with your delusion!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by godisgreat: 4:03am On Aug 14, 2006
hey, u dont have a life
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 4:04am On Aug 14, 2006
godisgreat:

hey, u don't have a life


What do you call what you are living now? a life?
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by godisgreat: 4:06am On Aug 14, 2006
christans were the ones who came up at my door asking us to take thier bible and the ones to convert us. and yah we do convert othe religons into islam, but we are not forcing them too, its there choice and i guess the want to be muslims so YAH!!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by m4malik(m): 8:13am On Aug 14, 2006
godisgreat:

we do convert othe religons into islam, but we are not forcing them too, its there choice and i guess the want to be muslims so YAH!!

hello @godisgreat,

Do you really understand Islam at all? I have no problem with the idea that some Muslims feel islam respects the religious choices of other people - which clearly it does not. But do "real Muslims" respect that choice when a Muslim seeks to convert to other religions? If you have no problem converting others to Islam, don't you think Muhammad disrespected their free choice by seeking to kill Muslim converts to other religions?

godisgreat:

okay we have the quran, which all of its copies are exactly the same, on the other hand christans have the bible which not all of the copies are the same, so tell me which bible tells the truth

The Qur'an of today is not the same as the ones Muhammad gave. Apart from the historical fact that during Muhammad's life, his companions had different readings of the Qur'anic verses; it is a known fact as well that the third Caliph Uthman ordered all the existing copies of the Qur'an to be burnt after he had produced his own edited version. So what you're reading today is the political redaction of Uthman and not Muhammad's Qur'an.

Besides, if you would only take the challenge to do a bit more research, you'll find that there are as many spurious copies of the Qur'an as you accuse the Bible; and all those copies of the Qur'an do not agree in just the same way you're accusing the Bible.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 2:47am On Aug 15, 2006
godisgreat is obviously a confused man,has he even read his own koran or history of the caliphates.
We know of a few converts to Islam already making the News yipeee like the recent captured terrorist,keep enticing those perverts to join you in their quest for wide eyed virgins and we shall keep finding them out.

So which one are you shia or sunni,be careful when you go to the arab mosques,some sunnis like to blow up shias when they are head down,bottoms up.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by firdaus4us: 1:07pm On Aug 16, 2006
Do you know it is unholy to abuse or utter any abusive words against any prophet. Well, I am not too surprise, it is a common norms 4 the Christian to always utter such. Do you remember what you bible says against: Solomon, Moses, Abraham, Noah etc.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by firdaus4us: 1:24pm On Aug 16, 2006
Quran as we, Muslim have it today is called The Uthmanic Edition simply because it was compired in book form during his caliphate. Your mistake is that u taught it was Uthman that compired it, Emphatic NO!

It was compired by the committe of Sohabas that memorised it with the confirmation of the written ones during the prophet life time.

Is your Bible like that? Who and who compired it? Do u know all that is in Bible are not all Jesus words? Quran is neither Prophet Muhammed words nor his companion.

May Allah guide u alright but u meet Him.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by firdaus4us: 4:39pm On Aug 16, 2006
Truly, Allah's word can never change. What he has destined will come to past. Allah sent prophets after prophets to invite people to His way and save them from destruction. After the demise of the last prophet (though u didn't beleive in him), there is not going to be any prophets again, hence the message has been completed, that is why the last Book unlike other books, will remain the same till the wprld will come to end.
Do u know that Hebrew language which is the language of Jesus contains no letter J, then why do u call him Jesus not Isa, as it was written in original language of the Bible. Please ask anybody that understand the language before u post ur respond.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by m4malik(m): 5:19pm On Aug 16, 2006
@firdaus4us,

Where were you when OlaAjia uttered more than abusive words about Solomon on the Religion board?

And as for all the other misconceptions you're trumpeting on this thread, I'll just refrain for now to give you time to go through other threads and see how they've been roundly dealt with. It's only a pity you haven't taken good time to study the background of the Qur'an itself.

firdaus4us:

Do u know that Hebrew language which is the language of Jesus contains no letter J, then why do u call him Jesus not Isa, as it was written in original language of the Bible. Please ask anybody that understand the language before u post your respond.

I don't know so much Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic - the original languages of the Bible; but I know that you're highly mistaken to suppose that the New Testament was written in Hebrew - for it is in the NT that Jesus is mentioned. Secondly, if you have a quarrel about the name Jesus, then your translators must have done a very, very poor job by your evaluation, because Yussuf Ali and Pickthal, translated His name as J[/b]esus. Let me show you:

Q.002.136
[b]YUSUFALI
: Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
PICKTHAL: Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.

Besides, why don't you take a moment and consider the life and ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ? The Qur'an definitely claims that *Allah* sent down, revealed and confirmed the Gospel of Jesus Christ - wouldn't it be great to take a calm and prayerful look at what that Gospel is? May God grant you His saving grace in Christ as you do so.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by firdaus4us: 1:38pm On Aug 17, 2006
@m4malik
Thanks 4 that. Please when u want to discuss with me always avoid abusive words. Concerning the Quranic translation u quoted, they called him like that just for you to understand it. Also, for the English speaking audience to really understand what they wanted to put across. Basically, the language of Jesus, as u called him, contains no LETTER L.

My friend continue with your research but with open mind to know the truth. May Allah guide u aright! For your information ALLAH means Olorun in Yoruba, therefore, be careful of your reply!

Truly Allah discuss Jesus as He did to the other prophets that He was the one that sent them message. Our own is to beleive in them all without saying abusive words agianst them.

Q2.285: (The messenger believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers; they all believe in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers; We make no difference between any of His messengers; and they say: We hear and obey, our Lord! Thy forgiveness (do we crave), and to Thee is the eventual course)
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 2:08pm On Aug 17, 2006
@firdaus4us,

sorry this is not an insult but going by your last few posts, it smacks of confusion and a desperate and uncoordinated attempt to burnish your quran. Allah may be called anything by anyone, it wont matter because he still remaiins nothing but a false god.

What really is your grouse with whether Jesus is pronounced with a J or not? The issue at the end will not be how you pronounced his name but how you lived your life!

Truly, Allah's word can never change. What he has destined will come to past.
What about dear old Allah's continous abrogation of verses to suit Prophet Mohammed's immoral lifestyle? Since when did what Allah "destined" begin to come to pass? I dont remember him making any decent prophecy anywhere.

Allah sent prophets after prophets to invite people to His way and save them from destruction.
Is that so or is that an attempt to make Islam look a little like christianity? Did Allah send prophets to save people from destruction or destroy the unbelievers and infidels? Is mercy and grace a part of Islam?

that is why the last Book unlike other books, will remain the same till the wprld will come to end.
Which world is coming to an end? Did the quran or mohammed predict the end of the world or is this another attempt to inculcate christian principles into islam to make it look a bit similar?
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by sehri: 12:18pm On Aug 18, 2006
how authentic is the bible ?, when it has altered its state so much , how can you state in the bible he/she in reference to god, how can the xtians claim to have a solid religion if you have gay priets, its become a man made religion, allahuakbar!!!!!!!!
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 7:37pm On Aug 18, 2006
let's take cover we have one strapped and about to blow up
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by sehri: 9:39pm On Aug 18, 2006
why dont you defend your manmade religion/cult than make stupid remarks, perhaps you cant handle the truth which is the collapse of christianity, do us all a favour and embrace islam ,
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by Nobody: 9:43pm On Aug 18, 2006
sehri go to the thread" Islam are we bad?" and read all my answers there,I don't like to repeat myself unless you push me and I hope you will stick around.
I will only quote from the Koran and hadiths the life Mohammed lived.
Promise not to run away.
Re: Why Do Some Muslims Use Mind Games To Draw People Into Islam? by OlaAjia(m): 3:51pm On Aug 19, 2006
Muslims, maybe this will be of any help to you.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-20477.128.html#msg572060

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