Who Were the "Giants" in the Days of Noah?

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them" (Genesis 6:4).

Few passages in all of Scripture have yielded so many interpretations as Genesis 6:1-5. Who were the "sons of God?" Who were the "daughters of men?" Why would their union produce giants and be associated with great wickedness?

Some have proposed that the "sons of God" were the descendents of Adam's son Seth, and the "daughters of men" were from the line of rebellious Cain. An interesting thought, but in Noah's day there were essentially no righteous people, from any line.

Others have rightly noted that the term "sons of God" in the Old Testament refers only to angels, thus these must be the fallen angels. Satan had launched an aggressive campaign against Adam and his descendents in an attempt to so pollute mankind that the promised Redeemer, the "seed of the woman" (Genesis 3:15) could not come.

But angels in Scripture are spiritual beings having no permanent body, and in heaven, at least, they do not "marry" (Matthew 22:30). And just what would this half angel/half man be? Would it be a giant, and more importantly, would it have an eternal spirit?

Let me suggest another alternative from our modern-day understanding of genomics, one which Bible scholars of yesteryear could not have suggested.

I suspect that if today's geneticists and molecular biologists can accomplish such technical wonders as gene splicing and cloning, that the much greater intelligence of Satan could potentially have done it too. The inner workings of the DNA molecule would not have been hidden from the prying eyes of Satan and his henchmen. If today animal genes can be inserted into human DNA, could not it have been accomplished by malevolent spiritual beings bent on destruction of the "image of God"?

Obviously we cannot speak with certainty, for the Bible gives little detail. At the very least, Satan's demons could have selected and indwelt certain men and women, and performed selective breeding experiments to produce over the generations a race of giants. (He could have done the same with animals too, and maybe that's where some of the unthinkable features we see in the fossil record come from. This could represent Satan's rage in trying to fully destroy any vestige of God's once "very good" creation.) Could he not have inserted genes and fabricated clones, mocking and ruining God's majestic handiwork? Perhaps this is why God had to send the Flood, eradicating a civilization beyond repair and starting anew with Noah, preserving the true seed of Adam.

One more thought. Christ compared the days of Noah to the days prior to His return. Are the actions which produced "giants," whatever they were, considered in this comparison? Certainly at no prior time of history have humans been able to "play God" with the genome as they do now. The rush to embrace the ghoulish possibilities of cloning and embryonic stem cell manipulation may be reminiscent of that long ago time. God's utter condemnation of that effort may help us evaluate modern experiments.

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Following the other thread, if you look up the word "giants" in the concordance or dictionary of the bible: "giants" as translated in KJV and "Nephilim" as translated in Niv/other translation means same thing which means "fallen ones" and the verb means "to fall" . It is NOT referring to "human size" BUT "fallen ones" as in nature. Will you consider this also?

Goshen360:

Following the other thread, if you look up the word "giants" in the concordance or dictionary of the bible: "giants" as translated in KJV and "Nephilim" as translated in Niv/other translation means same thing which means "fallen ones" and the verb means "to fall" . It is NOT referring to "human size" BUT "fallen ones" as in nature. Will you consider this also?

If the word giants refer to fallen ones what then shall we call the giants like Goliath and the ones in Jericho?

OLAADEGBU:

If the word giants refer to fallen ones what then shall we call the giants like Goliath and the ones in Jericho?

I presented an article in the other thread just as you also did presented an article from defender study bible or so. I think that explains it. The "fallen" (Nephilim) in Gen 6 is not based on size and stature. It is based on apostasy, like fallen from Grace or fallen from truth. The Giants in the case of Jericho and Goliath are then based on size. If the one in Gen. is based on size and the flood wiped all out and we are told Noah was perfect, that is without blemish, then where did the Giants in Jericho came from? They are not the same meaning thought same spelling just like, "in the beginning" of Gen 1:1 and "in the beginning" of John 1:1 are not the same.

I hope this explains it. Thanks for the article update from defender study bible also. How do I get that defender study bible free online or I have to buy a hard copy? Am interested in it. Also, you might also find the "Apologetics study bible" good for you also, they both defend the faith (if you check the meaning of apologetic).

Goshen360:

I presented an article in the other thread just as you also did presented an article from defender study bible or so. I think that explains it. The "fallen" (Nephilim) in Gen 6 is not based on size and stature. It is based on apostasy, like fallen from Grace or fallen from truth. The Giants in the case of Jericho and Goliath are then based on size. If the one in Gen. is based on size and the flood wiped all out and we are told Noah was perfect, that is without blemish, then where did the Giants in Jericho came from? They are not the same meaning thought same spelling just like, "in the beginning" of Gen 1:1 and "in the beginning" of John 1:1 are not the same.

This is what the defenders bible note said about giants:

giants (Genesis 6:4).

These "giants" were the monstrous progeny of the demon-possessed men and women whose illicit activities led to God’s warning of imminent judgment. The Hebrew word is nephilim ("fallen ones" ), a term possibly relating to the nature of their spiritual "parents," the fallen angels. That they were also physical giants is evident from the fact that the same word is later used in connection with the giants in Canaan at the time of Joshua (Numbers 13:33) and by the fact that the word here was translated in the Septuagint by the Greek word gigantes.

You can get this by clicking on the hyperlink of the OP above.

Goshen360:

I hope this explains it. Thanks for the article update from defender study bible also. How do I get that defender study bible free online or I have to buy a hard copy? Am interested in it. Also, you might also find the "Apologetics study bible" good for you also, they both defend the faith (if you check the meaning of apologetic).

I definitely need to work on my apologetics in order to properly defend the faith which was once delievered.

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Kindly create a link for me about the main defender bible from that link, not the notes. I want some that will put me inside the study bible book by book, verse by verse. Am lost within the website, I can't find bible itself. All I see is summary and notes. Thank and I will appreciate it.

Goshen360: ^^^
Kindly create a link for me about the main defender bible from that link, not the notes. I want some that will put me inside the study bible book by book, verse by verse. Am lost within the website, I can't find bible itself. All I see is summary and notes. Thank and I will appreciate it.

I'm not sure you will be able to go direct but this is the link; you may have to go indirectly or buy the book.

http://www.icr.org/bible/

http://icr.christianbook.com/kjv-henry-morris-study-bible-hardcover/9780890516577/pd/890516/1288951934?event=HPF1

Thanks

The giants are d nephilims....

The hi-breeds from d un natural relations of the sons of God who had sex with d daughters of men.......

Okpari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ijawkid: The giants are d nephilims....

The hi-breeds from d un natural relations of the sons of God who had sex with d daughters of men.......

Okpari!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:-)

The angels cannot breed with mankind they only used mankind to practise genetic engineering to produce giants.

Well, I think we solve this already in the other thread. Like I said, the "giants" as used in that context doesn't relate to physical status but related to apostates. Also, if you say angels (who are spirits) cannot mate humans or daughters of men then, then you might not believe in demons or even the birth of Jesus by Spirit (holy) of Mary. We also have events where demons (spirits) possess people and Jesus delivered them.

Goshen360: Well, I think we solve this already in the other thread. Like I said, the "giants" as used in that context doesn't relate to physical status but related to apostates. Also, if you say angels (who are spirits) cannot mate humans or daughters of men then, then you might not believe in demons or even the birth of Jesus by Spirit (holy) of Mary. We also have events where demons (spirits) possess people and Jesus delivered them.

But did the Holy spirit mate with mary?

haibe:
But did the Holy spirit mate with mary?

Do you know how it happened?

Goshen360:

Well, I think we solve this already in the other thread. Like I said, the "giants" as used in that context doesn't relate to physical status but related to apostates. Also, if you say angels (who are spirits) cannot mate humans or daughters of men then, then you might not believe in demons or even the birth of Jesus by Spirit (holy) of Mary. We also have events where demons (spirits) possess people and Jesus delivered them.

Angels are different from humans just as humans are different from animals. God created every living thing after their kinds, this means that one kind cannot mate with another kind to procreate. That is, a dog and cat cannot produce a dat (half dog and half cat). I believe that the same cannot happen with angels and humans because spirit and humans cannot mate to produce half human and half spirit beings. spirit beings can only produce spirit children and humans can only produce humans. Evil spirit may possess people but that does not mean that they can produce physical children. What it means is that possessed humans began what may be called artificial selection in the breeding of humans so as to produce giants which is against God's will.

@Goshen, here is another link that compares and contrasts the different views on who the giants might be. The jury is out.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v7/n1/battle-nephilim

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Thanks. I will take a deep look.

Goshen360: ^^^

Thanks. I will take a deep look.

If you are to take a deep look then this link does justice to that, it gives an indepth review on 4 different views on the subject.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/who-were-the-nephilim

"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown" (Genesis 6:2-4).

sons of God (Genesis 6:2).

The identity of these "sons of God" has been a matter of much discussion, but the obvious meaning is that they were angelic beings. This was the uniform interpretation of the ancient Jews, who translated the phrase as "angels of God" in their Septuagint translation of the Old Testament. The apocryphal books of Enoch elaborate this interpretation, which is also strongly implied by the New Testament passages (Jude 6, 2 Peter 2:4-6; 1 Peter 3:19,20). The Hebrew phrase is bene elohim, which occurs elsewhere only in Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. In these three explicitly parallel usages, the contextual meaning can be nothing except that of angels. A similar phrase bar elohim, occurs in Daniel 3:25, and another, bar elim, occurs in Psalm 29:1 and Psalm 89:6. All of these also refer explicitly to angels. The intent of the writer of Genesis 6 (probably Noah) was clearly that of introducing a monstrous irruption of demonic forces on the earth, leading to universal corruption and eventual judgment.

took them wives (Genesis 6:2).

The "taking" of these women most likely refers to fallen angels, or demons, "possessing" their bodies. The word "wives" (Hebrew ishshah) is better translated "women." There is no necessary intimation of actual marriage involved. By this time in history, anarchism and amorality were so widespread that these demons were easily able to take possession of the bodies of multitudes of ungodly men; these in turn engaged in promiscuous sex with demon-possessed women, with a resulting rapid population growth, Satan perhaps hoping thereby to generate a vast army of human recruits to his rebellion and also to thwart the coming of God’s promised Seed by thus corrupting all flesh.

My spirit (Genesis 6:3).

One of the ministries of God’s Holy Spirit has always been to convict man’s spirit of "sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment" (John 16:8 ). Man is also "flesh," however, and there is perpetual conflict between the flesh and the spirit, even in the life of a believer (Romans 8:5; Galatians 5:16,17). God is long-suffering with respect to man’s rebellion, but only for a time: the hour of His judgment must eventually arrive.

hundred and twenty years (Genesis 6:3).

This prophecy was apparently given, perhaps through Methuselah, just 120 years before the coming Flood. The prophet Enoch had already been translated. Shem, Ham and Japheth had not yet been born and God’s specific commands to Noah (Genesis 5:32; 6:10,13,21) not yet given.

giants (Genesis 6:4).

These "giants" were the monstrous progeny of the demon-possessed men and women whose illicit activities led to God’s warning of imminent judgment. The Hebrew word is nephilim ("fallen ones" ), a term possibly relating to the nature of their spiritual "parents," the fallen angels. That they were also physical giants is evident from the fact that the same word is later used in connection with the giants in Canaan at the time of Joshua (Numbers 13:33) and by the fact that the word here was translated in the Septuagint by the Greek word gigantes.

Defender's Bible Notes

Brother Olaadegbu,

The Defender Study Bible and The Henry Morris Study Bible are the same. I just checked the content of both on Christianbook.com. Kindly confirm this for me please. Thanks

Goshen360: Brother Olaadegbu,

The Defender Study Bible and The Henry Morris Study Bible are the same. I just checked the content of both on Christianbook.com. Kindly confirm this for me please. Thanks

It is evident that Henry Morris authoured both books and if you checked that the contents are the same then you got your answer.

OLAADEGBU:

It is evident that Henry Morris authoured both books and if you checked that the contents are the same then you got your answer.

lolz. I think I kind of love that study bible. I will get it soon though. It's the same content and authored by Morris Henry. I also like you to get the apologetics Study Bible if you can. It's like a compliment to Henry Morris'. You will love it. Thank you.

Goshen360:

lolz. I think I kind of love that study bible. I will get it soon though. It's the same content and authored by Morris Henry. I also like you to get the apologetics Study Bible if you can. It's like a compliment to Henry Morris'. You will love it. Thank you.

I surely need all the Bible helps that I can lay my hands on. Thanks.

Traditional African societies attest to a time in the long distant past when giants existed on the earth.

Rossikk:

Traditional African societies attest to a time in the long distant past when giants existed on the earth.

Have you got any evidence that you can use as your reference point?

^^The Eredo Earthworks in Ijebu Ode. Africa's largest man-made structure requiring more earth in its construction than was used for the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. This 160 km long kingdom rampart is well over a thousand years old and was built on the orders of the great queen Bilikisu Sungbo, whom some believe to be the famed Queen of Sheba. Her tomb is said to be 12 foot in length, as she was a Giantess, and is visited on pilgrimage by thousands of people every year till this day.

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=eredo+earthworks&oq=eredo+ea&gs_l=serp.1.0.0.2180718.2187346.1.2189105.10.9.1.0.0.0.293.933.7j1j1.9.0...0.0.M8MaX__z6Bw&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=c72d84806ae8a6&biw=1024&bih=673

Rossikk:

^^The Eredo Earthworks in Ijebu Ode. Africa's largest man-made structure requiring more earth in its construction than was used for the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. This 160 km long kingdom rampart is well over a thousand years old and was built on the orders of the great queen Bilikisu Sungbo, whom some believe to be the famed Queen of Sheba. Her tomb is said to be 12 foot in length, as she was a Giantess, and is visited on pilgrimage by thousands of people every year till this day.

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=eredo+earthworks&oq=eredo+ea&gs_l=serp.1.0.0.2180718.2187346.1.2189105.10.9.1.0.0.0.293.933.7j1j1.9.0...0.0.M8MaX__z6Bw&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=c72d84806ae8a6&biw=1024&bih=673

I have been hearing the fame of Bilikisu Sungbo but I didn't know that it was as serious as this. Who were the giants? Bilikisu or the builders of her monument?

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OLAADEGBU:


I have been hearing the fame of Bilikisu Sungbo but I didn't know that it was as serious as this. Who were the giants? Bilikisu or the builders of her monument?

Bilikisu was the giantess.

Jebusites and de phillipines

ROSSIKE:


Bilikisu was the giantess.

How big was the titan?

hpf1:


I'm not sure you will be able to go direct but this is the link; you may have to go indirectly or buy the book.

http://www.icr.org/bible/

http://icr.christianbook.com/kjv-henry-morris-study-bible-hardcover/9780890516577/pd/890516/1288951934?event

I'm sorry, I don't get what you want me to check in the links above.