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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 12:20am On Aug 08, 2021 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:17am On Sep 30, 2021 |
Yes Lord |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:18pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:37am On Nov 02, 2021 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:18pm On Apr 08, 2022 |
Lord Jesus |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:01am On Apr 18, 2022 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 5:50pm On Apr 18, 2022 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by Appleyard(m): 12:15am On Apr 19, 2022 |
efficiencie: The doctrine of eternal security a.k.a once saved always saved is not biblically correct. First, we have to understand what salvation means. He that hears the gospel and accept Jesus as Lord and savior by taking His name in baptism (Acts 2:37-41) has started the salvation process as envisaged in Mark 16:15-16. But merely doing this is not what really makes one a true believer. The Bible defines who a true believer is: those who know Christ by living his words, keeping to His commandments (1John 2:3-6. John 14:15). Those who keep His commandments are those that are truly born in the spirit as stated in verse 6 of John 3. These are those who are born of God and as such cannot sin (1John 3:9), that is, such do not practice sin nor delight in it. And even when such by error or overwhelming provocation falls into a sinful act, they immediately rise out of it, become even more sober and sorry for their mistake, taking all possible precaution to make sure they don't fall into it again (Proverb 24:16); Because their soul and spirit is converted. But those so-called believers who as the OP said ends up in hell due to unforgiveness or some other sins did so because they were not true believers to begin with. That is, they were merely believers by words of mouth and association as christians; they were never converted at heart nor transformed in the spirit by the renewness of their mind. The old nature in them never died. Such can never make it to heaven no matter how much they claim to believe. Thus, the doctrine of once save or always saved is not absolute. If it were so, the Bible would not have said we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Philippines 2:12) because we can fall when we least expect it (1 Corinthians 10:12). The flesh is not guaranteed tomorrow, and those who chose to walk in the flesh will lose their righteousness, which is the salvation spirit that dwells in them since you can't be light and darkness at the same time. The Holy Spirit of God left Saul when he sinned and an evil spirit took over (1 Samuel 16:14). That pretty sums it up. If you don't keep to the commandments of God, you are going nowhere and your previous righteous acts won't suffice (Ezekiel 18:24); such shall face the ultimate penalty for sin unless they repent quickly and go back to their first love (stage of obedience) Revelation 2:5. |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:54am On Apr 19, 2022 |
Morning |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:09am On Apr 20, 2022 |
No oooo |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by Hismasterpiece(m): 4:26pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
jiggaz: Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Mat 7:22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' Mat 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' Mat 10:32 "Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. Mat 10:33 "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. Tit 1:16 Such people claim they know God, but they deny him by the way they live. They are despicable and disobedient, worthless for doing anything good. 2Ti 2:11 This is a faithful saying: For if we died with Him, We shall also live with Him. 2Ti 2:12 If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us. 2Ti 2:13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself. What do you have to say about the above scriptures? |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by sonmvayina(m): 4:54pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
Becareful, those looking for the light... You can be blinded by the light.. |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 7:20pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: Believers, in Matthew 7:21 our Lord Jesus said "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.” ☝ That is the answer to the scripture you quoted. |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by Hismasterpiece(m): 8:15pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
jiggaz: Lol.. Okay let me give you my 2 cents. Lets look at the scripture i sent to you again: Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Mat 7:22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' Mat 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' Jesus makes it clear that the reason the He would reject those people is because they practice lawlessness. And according to what you sent me these people He'll reject are believers (they had all the signs... the cast out demons, healed the sick, etc.. things that only believers can do) And what is lawlessness? 1Jn 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. Lawlessness is sin. So these people, although they were believers, lived a lived of persistent and unrepentant sin. At this point I would like to ask you one question. You believe in once saved always saved. So do you believe that so long as a person has faith in Jesus, even if they live a life of continuous sin (knowing what they are doing) at the end of their lives they will go to heaven? |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:34pm On May 03, 2022 |
Lord Jesus |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 9:45pm On May 13, 2022 |
Nah |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 10:02am On May 14, 2022 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 8:55am On May 21, 2022 |
Nah |
Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 4:20pm On May 23, 2022 |
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Re: Believers In Hell - Jack Kelley by jiggaz(m): 11:21am On Jun 05, 2022 |
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