The concept of karma, as understood in Eastern religions like Jainism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, is indeed different from the concept of sin and forgiveness in Christianity. In the Bible, particularly in the New Testament, there is an emphasis on forgiveness through Christ, which is seen as a way to be freed from the consequences of sin.

The verse you mentioned, "He who kills by the sword, will die by the sword," can be seen as a principle of cause and effect, but it's not necessarily equated with the concept of karma. Similarly, the idea of "reaping what you sow" is a principle found in many philosophies and religions, not just in karma.In Christianity, forgiveness is believed to be attainable through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

This forgiveness is seen as a complete wiping away of sin, and the person is considered free from its eternal consequences. However, this doesn't mean that there are no earthly consequences for one's actions.The distinction lies in the belief that through Christ, one can be completely forgiven and freed from the eternal consequences of sin, whereas in the concept of karma, the consequences of one's actions are seen as a natural and unavoidable part of the cosmic order, often spanning across multiple lifetimes.So, while the principles of cause and effect are universal concepts, the understanding of sin, forgiveness, and karma differ significantly across religions.

MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...
If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?
Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?
Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

What is Karma?

You can be forgiven but not justified

God forgives our sins but we will face the consequences of our actions. That's karma

MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Kama is for sinners not born again, if any man is in Christ is a new creature old things are pass away all things become new

shadrach77:
There is Karma and there is the forgiveness of God. God does forgive but you will still have to face the consequences of your misdeeds. That doesn't mean God hasn't forgiven you. E.g. a lady who commits fornication and gets pregnant 🤰 then asks God for forgiveness. God will forgive her but then she still has the pregnancy and the baby to cater for.

I dont think this is a good illustration for Karma. Consequence of action is not necessarily karma

MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Karma is not a Christian theology. Jehovah God forgives man of any sin if man repents and accept to follow Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour - He died on the Cross and rose - to be a propitiation and justification for repented man before GOD.
However, suffering the consequences of one's actions is where the biblical statements of reaping what one sow comes in. In the Bible, God forgave many people who failed him and repented BUT they had to suffer the consequences of their actions because this is a divine principle.
David killed Uriah and married his wife. God forgave David. But the consequences of his action which made God to place a curse on his generation is still on.

God forgave Samson. He died untimely as a consequence of his actions.

The thief on the cross with Jesus Christ did not escape the consequence or punishment for his crime but he received forgiveness.

Saul/Paul was forgiven but he suffered much as a believer due to his earlier persecution of the early church.

A young woman who had done many abortions and lost her womb received forgiveness and becomes a minister of the gospel or dedicated worker for God. She may never have children or God can show her mercy and give her children miraculously.

Karma is the consequences of that sin....take for example someone did abortion and her womb got spoilt. Her inability to conceive is karma

God can shove his forgiveness up his hairy nyash. He doesn't exist.

magoo10:
God forgives our sins if we ask for forgiveness and truly repent and make total change from our sinful lives.
As we know living without sin in this world is not easy ,that is what keeps attracting people to karma.

Nobody can live on earth without commiting sin.

Even Jesus committed so many sins.

There is sowing and reaping.
I don't know who manufactured forgiveness.
Forgiveness means unaccountability and irresponsibility

Alex80s:
There is nothing like Karma!!! Our corrupt politicians take oath of office with either Bible or Koran and their generation keep enjoying their loot...

More over, prayers for forgiveness doesn't work. Generally, prayers does not solve human problems. The confusion is the Masses that see it as opium of the Masses...

politicians are smart,
They bought the office.
When tinubu was paying delegates in dollars
Paying market leaders,nurtw and street touts.
What were you thinking?
Moreover they also paid the spiritual price.
The Earth is in the hands of the serpent who coil around our solar system which some call oroboros while others call it the milky way.
They paid a great price.
They don't owe you anything

Forgiveness & discipline goes hand in hand, God loves is children, he'll forgive you from eternal damnation but you'll be punish because the other person you did bad to is also God's child & will cry to God for justice that's why karma is inevitable

The best answer i can give or to my own understanding is this and very simple God is not mocked what you sow you shall reap... now take the example of the two thieves nailed to the cross beside Jesus. they were facing their karma! But one acknowledged it and hushed the other saying " we deserve punishment for what we have done but this man (Jesus) has done nothing wrong and said lord remember me in your kingdom ( forgiveness) and Jesus replied verily verily I say unto you today you shall be with me in paradise

chieveboy:


So sorry bro, God never hold grudges nor forgives them.

You're speaking from the limited orthodox religious and 'Manlification' of God.

Firstly I said that the topic is DEEP.
To completely elucidate the whole points on this issue, I would need to write a book. lol
I said that Karma is something that exists "within the realm of human consciousness". I chose those words very carefully
God can operate within and outside of such realm - all depending on the level of spiritual vibration of the individual concerned.
Or what I call "the relationship dynamics" between "God" and the individual concerned.
You may not like religion, but religious books contain some of the most useful stories/illustrations/information about God.
You just need to know where (or which book) to look and what to look for.

For Christians like myself, one such story that illustrates this point is the story of Jacob and Esau.
God said Jacob he loved, while Esau he hated. WHY IS THAT?

I agree that God is NOT man.

Karma is what happened to King David

If you fall your papa phone here in Nigeria, will he just say "Oh shit" I'm sorry son, I forgive you" or e go flog white and black for your body before he forgive you. Answer

MadeINchenzen2:
∆ The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...
If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?
∆ Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?
Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

∆ What you describe is not Karma at all but commandments contained right in God's Law which He gave to men. Those laws were also meant to be enforced by those appointed by God to do so. Much like you have your criminal Justice systems.

2. NO.

3. Only the righteous are forgiven their sins by God the moment they ask Him for it. However, the consequences of those sins, the repercussions, they cannot avoid by even the righteous. Look at the life of David for instance. He was approved righteous by God even before he was announced King of Israel but David was not able to avoid the repercussions of his many sins.

God Forgives You but U must still pay for the sin especially based on it's gravity. If God Forgives U, it means the Karma might not be as heavy or at once. But it will still Happen no matter what

And why would you sow corn and then turn around and ask God for forgiveness claiming that it's yam you wanted to sow? And you think God will magically turn the corn you sowed to yam because He has forgiven you?

Why would you throw things up and you don't expect it to come down in obedience to gravity?

Why would you want to do to others what you don't want others to do to you?

Why would you project evil thought forms unto others and you don't expect evil to come to you multiplied?

Even forgiveness is conditional. Jesus said 'forgive, and you will be forgiven'. Meaning if you don't have a forgiving spirit yourself you lack justification to expect God's forgiveness because it won't come even if you pray from now till eternity.

Stay away from evil. God cannot be fooled, cajoled or manipulated. You can't sow evil and reap good. It can't work! That is karma.

Good question.

To the best of my Knowledge, God is Merciful and He forgive sins. But as Merciful as God is, He is also a God of JUSTICE. We will reap all our deeds be it positive or negative. No action will go unrewarded, whether in this world or in the next.

This forms part of the basis of the teaching of Catholic Church on Purgatory. That a soul must be cleansed from the guilt accrued from forgiven sins through suffering and fire of the Purgatory before the person can behold the face of God. Because nothing unclean will enter the kingdom of God.

onumadu:

Firstly I said that the topic is DEEP.
To completely elucidate the whole points on this issue, I would need to write a book. lol
I said that Karma is something that exists "within the realm of human consciousness". I chose those words very carefully
God can operate within and outside of such realm - all depending on the level of spiritual vibration of the individual concerned.
Or what I call "the relationship dynamics" between "God" and the individual concerned.
You may not like religion, but religious books contain some of the most useful stories/illustrations/information about God.
You just need to know where (or which book) to look and what to look for.

For Christians like myself, one such story that illustrates this point is the story of Jacob and Esau.
God said Jacob he loved, while Esau he hated. WHY IS THAT?

I agree that God is NOT man.

Very well. As a hyper-christian, I wish to bring to your attention the possibility that as far as the Bible is concerned, there were "Gods" and not just "God". This must be the "Deep" you were referring to?

Aboks:
Forgiveness is sure but you must suffer for it

even king david God forgave him, but he suffered the consequences of his actions

Jesus had not died for our sins at the time of king David , what about Paul ?

chieveboy:


Very well. As a hyper-christian, I wish to bring to your attention the possibility that as far as the Bible is concerned, there were "Gods" and not just "God". This must be the "Deep" you were referring to?

I'm afraid that if I go into that your line of thinking, I would lose about 99% of the audience in the thought-flow.
So, I keep things simple.
I believe in one GOD within who/which contains ALL manifestations.
They all exist within GOD'S "supreme divine imaginations".
As referenced in the Bible "in whom we live and move and have our being".
in God, there are Gods, gods, hosts of heaven, principalities, powers, dominions etc.
People make the mistake of thinking that there are many GODS. It cannot be true because of many reasons which I don't want to get into for lack of time and space.
What I can say as a Christian is that Jesus Christ (on earth) was an incarnate of GOD.
Why do I say so?
Because ALL of these powers, dominions, laws etc bow to his authority.
For example, that is why Jesus said that he is the "Lord of the Sabbath" (meaning that all laws are subject to his divine prerogative).
I have had other personal experiences to prove this point to myself.
You have to take my words for it.

Metrofox:
Karma is what happened to King David

Nothing like that . What happened to David was God.

DropsMic:
Doesn’t exist.

If e dey exist, our politicians would be the most unfortunate people on the face of the earth.
If e dey exist, the descendants of those who participated in the transatlantic slave trade would be suffering today.

Also, prayers don’t work. If it did, Tinubu won’t be the president today.

Subconsciously we all know this these things, but for some reasons, na we believe in them pass.

Strong points!

soccerlite:


Which verse is this?

Matthew 26 26 52

Lemmyler:
God forgives people of their sins if they ask for it sincerely. However, the consequences of our actions still catch up with us most times. Using the case of David(a man after God's heart) as example, God forgave him of his sin against Uriah but he still faced the consequence of his action.

define forgiveness... If I still use your wrong doing towards me against you after you have forgiven me, of what use is the forgiveness

MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?

Does the govt forgives you after committing a crime?

magoo10:
God forgives our sins if we ask for forgiveness and truly repent and make total change from our sinful lives.
As we know living without sin in this world is not easy ,that is what keeps attracting people to karma.

Go tell all of these tales by moonlight to the politicians and their families who have been ruling since your father's generation and they will laugh at you and your ilk!

MadeINchenzen2:
so of what use is forgiveness?

Forgiveness, which is reserved benefit for the holy and righteous by the way, is meant for wiping one's sin-slate clean with God but it does not stop the repercussions of the sin itself. Once sin is committed, the consequences of the sin are set in motion, however, God keeps His own from the full blow. Take for example the case of Moses. When Moses disobeyed God in the wilderness, the repercussion was that just like the other Israelites who sinned, he too would not enter into the Land of Canaan. However, not only did God then cause Moses to live out what seemed all of his days — Moses lived to a ripe old age of 120 —, God also allowed Moses to see the promised land, before his end came. All the others died without ever getting such a privilege.