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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by drlateef: 2:34pm On Apr 30
Samuelriano1:
poor performance of student in 2024 utme examination. who is to be blamed? Parents, teachers , student.
let's discuss.



Some parents are paying heavily to the schools but the proprietors are greedy. They pay peanuts to the teachers. Every private school must have school governors comprising of parents and teachers and proprietor. The governors should determine how much a teacher earns. Otherwise the poor pay of teachers will never stop and poor results will continue despite the investment by parents on their kids education. Parents must also monitor their children’s progress in school and not just dump money and leave everything to the school alone.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by YoungBlackRico(m): 2:36pm On Apr 30
Parents are entirely to be blamed
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Trendy05(f): 2:38pm On Apr 30
The students are to blame. They don't read anymore.

They spend all their time pressing phone from tiktok to Facebook to Instagram to WhatsApp etc.

Students need to wake up.

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Inobeyourmate: 2:41pm On Apr 30
ironheart:
Parents and teachers.

Most teachers teach for the money to survive not for the passion

The schools gives good grades to students so that the parents wouldn't withdraw there wards from the school

You can not discipline children due to the reactions of parents.

Teachers no longer care about students welfare

I support you on this, go to private schools in cities like Ogun state and Lagos state, I swear to God you wouldn’t want to send your children to private school in any of those states, school is mainly for BUSINESS 💯
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by tuzle(m): 2:44pm On Apr 30
ilemona4you2:


Hello sir, why do you say that. What's the real percentage please.

Thanks
I corrected myself in later post. The percentage is correct.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Bfly: 2:55pm On Apr 30
There is so much outside about what the government is not doing right. Opportunities that attach to tertiary education are no more there
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by orlahtohbadt(m): 2:55pm On Apr 30
santaclaws:
The ministry of education is to blame. As funny as this sounds, let me break it down:

Most JAMB questions are based on A-level curriculum and for students to pass convincingly, they must read thoroughly, much beyond the scope of O'level syllabus covered in secondary schools. In the UK, students are meant to attend 6th form college where A-level courses are taught, thus preparing them for A-level exams and further studies.

We have an exam that is too advanced for most school leavers, but because the majority of students who pass have always depended on EXPO, we refused to talk about it.

Instead of the FG to have students stay at home up till 18, maybe we should add A-level colleges to the academic system so that students can either chose to write JAMB upon finishing secondary school or enter through A-level/Direct entry into 200 level.
I am not here to fight you as everyone has an opinion but I don’t agree with this.

Firstly, we did the same examination during our time. Very stiff times at that, when the cut off was generally 200 and it was not as bad as this. We learnt these A’level stuff that you claim ourselves and people that had the money attended tutorial classes. Not that I agree with you that they are tested on A’levels.

Secondly, the exam has even been watered down because of the use of CBT and then time factor as they cannot be sitting for as much as 3 hours 40 mins like during our time when it was pencil based test. So some of the hard calculations are no longer much. I even heard some young one say it was just about 3-4 calculation questions in Physics and Chemistry each. It wasn’t like that during our time. The number of questions they even answer in each subjects have been heavily reduced because if these factors.

Finally, they have more advanced technology than we had but this technology is rather serving as a distraction. Because during our time we didn’t have much browsing phones, access to internet to be able to use video services like YouTube and there were not much academic contents in YouTube then compared to now. We only relied on past questions and solutions from people we believed were experts.
So I don’t see why the Ministry of education should be solely blamed. Everybody is a stakeholder in education so we all are to be blamed in one way or the other. Schools have their own blame to, most private schools now spoon feed and help in examination malpractice just to soothe the parents and it is now telling the more. Not that it was not like this during my time, it was not just as much as this. Jamb is almost impossible to have examination malpractice penetrate, that is why we see the true test. Come to think of it, a multiple choice question exam like Jamb is supposed to be the easiest to pass compared to WAEC and NECO and yet, a lot pass the latter than the earlier. This shows the level of malpractice that schools organize.
I rest my case here.

In your last point, don’t we practice that here in Nigeria? Is that not what the IJMB, JUPEB, Diploma and Cambridge is for? Of course the option has always been there.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by natureblack(m): 3:01pm On Apr 30
othermen:
Of coz one has to understand the issues before solutions can be suggested.

But to assume that there is a singular cause of the problem is indicative of no appreciation of the situation.

The schools, the students, the parents, the exam body, the ministry of education, the electricity distribution company, the values we have as a country where a random skit maker who does ‘kiss or grab’ is richer than ten professors combined, the government, the media, the groups that give #10,000 to best performing students, and more than hundred million to some reality star, or millions to some instagram twerking Queen or some portable to serve as influencers. Those who have suggested that this generation of young people is some gen z nonsense and that their aspiration should be Ilebaye, the churches and mosques, the financial insecurity, the insecurity of lives, the dissatisfied lots of teachers whose earning only motivate them to show up in school and not make further efforts. And even much more.
I don't know how to reward you for this comment.
You constructively 'knack' the nail with the hammer. There's nothing more to be said.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Jidexzy(m): 3:04pm On Apr 30
This result isn’t just a result of Government school but both private and missionary schools so if teachers are not teaching in Government schools, what about private and missionary schools?

So I am on the opinion that the school, parent and students are to be blamed.

firstly, the parent want their children too to pass out on time cause their neighbor or friends children almost finish their education. The schools gives good grades to students so that the parents wouldn't withdraw there wards from the school

secondly, These students spend so much time on social media than in their books, the zeal and quest to make money has overtaken their time for their books, little SS1-3 girls who are to read their books are after boys, men and money. It is a pathetic situation.

so teachers can not discipline children due to the reactions of parents and the school rules. Teachers no longer care about students welfare. cause they don't want to be sack
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Citadel123: 3:11pm On Apr 30
This here is exactly the problem
NaijaChild:
This result isn’t just a result of Government school but both private and missionary schools so if teachers are not teaching in Government schools, what about private and missionary schools?

So I am on the opinion that the students are to be blamed.

These students spend so much time on social media than in their books, the zeal and quest to make money has overtaken their time for their books, little SS3 girls who are to read their books are after boys, men and money. It is a pathetic situation.



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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Tonytonex(m): 3:12pm On Apr 30
Blitzking:

I was always in the o.5 percent...mehn during my time I read no be small
This means that students are to be blamed.

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Tonytonex(m): 3:14pm On Apr 30
Trendy05:
The students are to blame. They don't read anymore.

They spend all their time pressing phone from tiktok to Facebook to Instagram to WhatsApp etc.

Students need to wake up.
especially your gender grin
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by IkeAbuja: 3:22pm On Apr 30
They were busy shaking their nyash on TikTok instead of studying their books

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Niok: 3:24pm On Apr 30
Take me back to 2012 when I wrote my first jamb

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by luluman: 3:29pm On Apr 30
ironheart:
Parents and teachers.

Most teachers teach for the money to survive not for the passion

The schools gives good grades to students so that the parents wouldn't withdraw there wards from the school

You can not discipline children due to the reactions of parents.

Teachers no longer care about students welfare

Why not leave your job & be a teacher in one of the schools to understand how it works.

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by haconjy(m): 3:30pm On Apr 30
Well, as a teacher, I want you to know that all ALL that surrounds the student should be blamed.

Physical Prob
Student, Teacher, Parent, Government, Enviroment


Spiritual Problem
This may sound somehow. Butiys true!!!
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by ben1daEbiri(m): 3:41pm On Apr 30
edungene7:
Blame the useless and clueless government a student that has not used a computer system all is life to study is expected to use same computer to write an exam why won't they fail ask some of this students those questions they failed orally and they will give you the answer we should stop all this useless copy cat system certain things should be optional not compulsory

I can't but say this is a lame excuse. JAMB has been CBT for atleast 10yrs now. Before your exam day, a mock exam is conducted especially to familiarise students with CBT but MOST students don't make take the mock exam.

There can be problems with server and all that but saying someone failed because of little or no knowledge of CBT in 2024 is unacceptable.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by ben1daEbiri(m): 3:45pm On Apr 30
oluwaseyi0:
Sometimes those exams are just very unnecessarily hard

I beg to disagree. You'll pass if you read using JAMB syllabus. My first JAMB was CBT and my strategy was give myself a target of atleast 50/100 for each subject and a total of 200/400. Meanwhile I expect 200/400 to be poor and guess what I scored 200 but couldn't secure admission with it, the following year I scored 232 and was admitted.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by yemmit90: 4:04pm On Apr 30
santaclaws:


Somehow you think it's the fault of the 95% who couldn't score above 250? Bro, the result is a reflection of the educational system, stop using your experience to judge the situation.

Normally, with your score of 248, back then you wouldn't be able to gain admission into certain courses like Law or STEM courses. Now imagine a situation where the vast majority like 95% couldn't make it up to that score of yours! This isn't about unseriousness, 95% is almost everyone bro!

Yes I will say, it is their fault, parents and probably the channel in which the exams were carried out. Go and check jamb questions from 1980's till now, you will see it is still the same syllabus and questions throwing out every year.

As for the computer base test, you don't expect a student who have been so used to screen for entertainments purpose to concentrate when reading or answering question on the same screen. His/her subconscious mind would've divided into partially visualise the jargon that is already in memory. These students would've performed more than this on old paper format.

248 back then was not cheap either, Law, medicine sc, pharmacy, architecture, are all above 250 but people still use below 240 to gain admission on supplementary and VC lists.

Though I buy your idea of enrolling them in A level class for a year after secondary school.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Origin(f): 4:25pm On Apr 30
In mass failure you will need to query the common denominator. ..

The exam questions were probably not based on expected curriculum.....

A levels is different from O levels.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by MIKOLOWISKA: 4:32pm On Apr 30
NaijaChild:
This result isn’t just a result of Government school but both private and missionary schools so if teachers are not teaching in Government schools, what about private and missionary schools?

So I am on the opinion that the students are to be blamed.

These students spend so much time on social media than in their books, the zeal and quest to make money has overtaken their time for their books, little SS3 girls who are to read their books are after boys, men and money. It is a pathetic situation.



nonesense
That's how you blamed TV
Before that radio
Before that ppl line you blamed books

Bad work men will always look for excuse

You voted for socialism
Now the children know it is not by book you make it
You now blaming them cos they smaller than you

Always pointing fingers
Never looking at man in the mirror
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by ironheart(m): 4:44pm On Apr 30
luluman:
Why not leave your job & be a teacher in one of the schools to understand how it works.
stop assuming and think with an open mind. I was once a teacher and i gave it my best while it lasted. I made money and a lot of it despite people complaining that the job pays little. I left because i do not have passion for teaching. Will i teach again? Yes most definitely if i am not doing my current job. Do i understand the challenges? Yes i do. So please if you are teacher and you are not happy with the job kindly resign. You have no business being there.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by ironheart(m): 4:44pm On Apr 30
Inobeyourmate:
I support you on this, go to private schools in cities like Ogun state and Lagos state, I swear to God you wouldn’t want to send your children to private school in any of those states, school is mainly for BUSINESS 💯
you no lie

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Popesuccess(m): 5:04pm On Apr 30
Samuelriano1:
poor performance of student in 2024 utme examination. who is to be blamed? Parents, teachers , student.
let's discuss.
Student this days don't take this exams serious. In our days writting JAMB and WAEC is very big deal, we study hard for it. The 3 people that wrote in my church did not read for one day.

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Fearyourcreator: 5:21pm On Apr 30
santaclaws:
The ministry of education is to blame. As funny as this sounds, let me break it down:

Most JAMB questions are based on A-level curriculum and for students to pass convincingly, they must read thoroughly, much beyond the scope of O'level syllabus covered in secondary schools. In the UK, students are meant to attend 6th form college where A-level courses are taught, thus preparing them for A-level exams and further studies.

We have an exam that is too advanced for most school leavers, but because the majority of students who pass have always depended on EXPO, we refused to talk about it.

Instead of the FG to have students stay at home up till 18, maybe we should add A-level colleges to the academic system so that students can either chose to write JAMB upon finishing secondary school or enter through A-level/Direct entry into 200 level.
Una go just dey talk Rubbish, what's A level about jamb questions... Student today na yahoo them wan do ... Check jamb questions before CBT started ... Computer based soft ... Just 2hrs ... Useless children

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by santaclaws: 5:25pm On Apr 30
yemmit90:


Yes I will say, it is their fault, parents and probably the channel in which the exams were carried out. Go and check jamb questions from 1980's till now, you will see it is still the same syllabus and questions throwing out every year.

As for the computer base test, you don't expect a student who have been so used to screen for entertainments purpose to concentrate when reading or answering question on the same screen. His/her subconscious mind would've divided into partially visualise the jargon that is already in memory. These students would've performed more than this on old paper format.

248 back then was not cheap either, Law, medicine sc, pharmacy, architecture, are all above 250 but people still use below 240 to gain admission on supplementary and VC lists.

Though I buy your idea of enrolling them in A level class for a year after secondary school.

So in a situation where 100 students wrote an exam in the university and ony 24 were able to pass (with most of them having just C), while the rest 76% fail massively, you wouldn't think the lecturer in charge of the course must be held answerable for such mass failure?

Your answer to the above would determine the way you think... And I sincerely hope you can think well before answering.
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by santaclaws: 5:27pm On Apr 30
Fearyourcreator:

Una go just dey talk Rubbish, what's A level about jamb questions... Student today na yahoo them wan do ... Check jamb questions before CBT started ... Computer based soft ... Just 2hrs ... Useless children

And I been dey reason you as person wey get sense before ooo... 🤔
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by santaclaws: 5:35pm On Apr 30
theredaddy:



Bro, i wrote jamb at the time you go to afribank to collect big brown envelope with brochure inside ... no miracle centres

the educational deterioration is directly proportionate to the rising of social media & trends .... 1st prize for cowbell maths competition no reach 500k buh people celebrate & donate millions to "mummy calm down"

Oga nothing is wrong with the examiner questions, what we have are just failed couples parenting unserious kids in a failed country

In your area, try observe the teenagers nd what they spend there time doing .. you will see why the educational system is on free fall.

I wrote JAMB back then too and I know very well that people still cheated. Cheating didn't start today, so let's stop the hypocrisy. Both intelligent folks and cheats were able to pass and gained admission, it's partly why some lecturers can't speak good English today.

If 95% couldn't obtain a mere 250 in JAMB, I'd rather question the system that produced such a result than the students, that's my own logic. 95% is too high for me to recklessly conclude that "teenagers are unserious" and that's why they failed...

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Chemlite: 5:49pm On Apr 30
For me, students and parents are to be blamed.
I do part- time teaching in schools. As we speak the students that registered in one of the school are not turning up for classes.
Reason being that, they don't want to pay school fees for 2nd and 3rd term.
Though we've covered our scheme, my intention was to treat past questions, topics they find difficult and mock exams every three weeks from second term but they failed to turn up.
The first week of resumption (i.e 2nd term) I asked them to state topics giving them hard time to handle in Chemistry, surprisingly, none of them submitted till they left.
I have been redeployed.
I rejected SS3 in one of the school because they have two others teachers (N/B: the students were very sad when they learnt I'm not going with them to SS3), while in the former I'm the only one taking chemistry.
Maybe when specimens are out, I will organize a class for them and leave them to fate.

Economy is not helping matters.

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Daviestunech(m): 5:50pm On Apr 30
Reality3080:
Blame d government cos they make education unattractive

How will u motivate a child to read when his siblings who are graduates are languishing in penury

Imagine thousands of graduates being fed by their parents even after graduating?

So u want the same child to tow the same path

Sadly but true

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Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by harisclub: 5:52pm On Apr 30
Jamb is rubbish and needs to be scraped
Re: Outcome Of 2024 Utme Results, Who Is To Be Blamed? Parents, Teacher Or Students? by Okpollo: 6:09pm On Apr 30
santaclaws:
The ministry of education is to blame. As funny as this sounds, let me break it down:

Most JAMB questions are based on A-level curriculum and for students to pass convincingly, they must read thoroughly, much beyond the scope of O'level syllabus covered in secondary schools. In the UK, students are meant to attend 6th form college where A-level courses are taught, thus preparing them for A-level exams and further studies.

We have an exam that is too advanced for most school leavers, but because the majority of students who pass have always depended on EXPO, we refused to talk about it.

Instead of the FG to have students stay at home up till 18, maybe we should add A-level colleges to the academic system so that students can either chose to write JAMB upon finishing secondary school or enter through A-level/Direct entry into 200 level.
we already have A-level /direct entry programs running in our universities . What we are seeing now is not just about syllabus or expo as thesame set of students are not writing jamb every year. Education used to be a meal ticket in nigeria , but those who had that previlage were unable to sustain it , as such nigerians now take schooling as secondary and its just getting started. We must present education as a rewarding venture for people to take it seriously . Till we get to that level interest in education will keep reducing. FG is seeing it now but they wont do anything about it. Education is highly demanding as such the reward must be worth it.

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