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Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 8:53pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: If this proves anything, it's certainly not omniscience. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 9:09pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: I'm only interested in God as a person. Can I correctly say that there is no such person as Iustice, Brahma, or Thor? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 9:09pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
finofaya:you just say that without refuting? how come that revelation that was made before the advent of telescope and contemporary science goes in line with hubble's discovery that the space actually expands? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by dalaman: 9:25pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: The bible is full with God acting as if he is threatened because people refuse to believe and obey him. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 9:46pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Omniscience is knowledge of everything. You don't prove it by showing knowledge of any one thing. How do you know that God is in fact omniscient? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 10:06pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
finofaya:i'm beginning to feel you are an undercover xtian. what was the outcome of hubble's discovery? the verses i sited, says 100% of what hubble discovered with sophisticated tools in the 19th century, whereas that verse has been available since the 6th century. who could reveal such idea without any stress? verily there is an omniscient being behind that fact! |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 10:33pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: I've chosen not to comment on the verse since the OP is not about that. Can you just tell me how knowledge of the expansion of the universe proves that God is omniscient? Consider that the same knowledge does not prove that man is omniscient. 1 Like |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:36pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
finofaya:Don't be hasty. I never said God doesn't care. I said God is not threatened by anyone or anything. Disbelief is idiocy and the height of foolishness and self-delusion(like you reading only what the words you want to see in my post, the words that make you think you're justified in your foolish unbelief). Anyone can know God. He has been revealing himself through the ages. ..since what can be known about God is evident among them, because God has shown it to them. For His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood through what He has made. As a result, people are without excuse. Romans 1:19-20 HCSB http://bible.com/72/rom.1.19-20.HCSB The only reason we beg you and try to convince you to believe in Jesus Christ is because God cares about you, and we care too. But we know that if you do not accept salvation, you'll be gone. God is a just God. I believe this answers most of the questions directed at me. Please try and be logical in your perceptions of God next time, or at least try and be logical in your futile attempts to throw accusations at him to justify your unbelief. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Joshthefirst(m): 10:38pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
macof:My reply above to finofaya answers your questions. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 10:41pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
finofaya:that verse does not address the topic? smh, it proves that God is ominiscient because God didnt use sophisticated tools like man did! He Himself is the expander! |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 11:07pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: You also asked if he would be bothered and went ahead to answer in the negative. What does "bother" mean to you? You havent addressed the OP so far. Thanks for your concern about my salvation tho. Pray for me? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:26pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
finofaya: Can you tell us whom that person who happens to be God is? Name one pls Can you explain how Thor, Iustice and Brahman are not person from their mythical illustrations like other Gods? Pls do sire 1 Like |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:34pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
dalaman: Fixed |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 11:36pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: The verse is about how accurate the qur'an is. What you've written isn't enough to even infer omniscience. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 11:47pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: I'm talking about real persons here bro, not mythical ones. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Joshthefirst(m): 11:48pm On Sep 07, 2015 |
finofaya:I meant bother as in to be annoyed or irritated. I'll pray for you. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 12:01am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya:the verse show a sign of God being the all-knower of all things viz omniscient. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:09am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya: Stop running from the question Can you tell us whom that real person who happens to be God is? Name one pls |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by dalaman: 5:45am On Sep 08, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: What have you fixed? Jehovah is God so get the hell out of here and stop quoting me. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 6:58am On Sep 08, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: That is exactly my point. If I know such a person I can't be an atheist. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 7:07am On Sep 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: It doesn't. I think you underestimate what omniscience is. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 7:09am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya:ok let me give you another proof. ever heard of the bigbang theory? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 7:13am On Sep 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Can you add 1 to any number to make it equal to infinity? 1 Like |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:15am On Sep 08, 2015 |
dalaman: Lol Na fight? Dont bring that cuz I got lot of army in the bar like alcohol. Dem go scatter your body and mind if I say fight. We can not agree with everything you know. But we can stilll understand ourselves. There are lot of Cannaites and Greek Gods in the bible. You just have to be specific. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 7:26am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya:ofcourse! infinity minus 1 added to 1 will give you infinity, in nutshell the number is:-infinity minus 1 , are you the kind of atheist that goes with pure logic or empirical proof? because with pure logic, my answer is right! I think you dont know what bigbang theory is all about. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 7:37am On Sep 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Infinity is not a number. Don't we all use logic and empiricism? I'm not an expert on the big bang theory. I don't see how it is relevant to the OP. Is knowledge of astronomy equal to omniscience? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:59am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya: Keep it coming. I think you know the difference between knowledge and acknowledge? You cannot be atheist to something you are ignorant of. Rather, you are atheist to that thing you know it details but rejected or disaproved because you can draw evidence to it. I read the bible and quran. I know about the Gods mentioned in it but I dont approve or acknowledge such Gods could exist. The argument is proof for God. According to you all God You have shifted the goal to uncreated/uncaused God who created the universe and the evidence was presented. You are now jumping and clinging on personhood of God. And now feigning ignorance about knowledge of any God. #confusion? Well, atheism is denial, and rejection of the existence of God. That you do not know about the God you disbelieve in is obvious lie. Quit that. Name one God with personhood. Just one. Do you believe in others? |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 8:02am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya:are you an atheist? infinity not a number? ever heard of real analysis in mathematics? you dont get it, do you? big bang theory(1965) makes us to know that around 12-15billion years ago, the universe came into existence from one single extremely hot and dense point, then it exploded to form our universe. before the discovery of the bigbang theory, it has been revealed to muhammad Q21:30"have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then we parted them? we have made from water every living thing. will they not then believe?", how could muhammad have known that the heaven and earth was one and later exploded to form our universe? An All-knowing being was behind this fact! |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 8:16am On Sep 08, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Babe, you're losing track of this discussion. I told you you didn't read what I wrote. I don't believe there is a real person known as God, as per the OP. I've heard of Thor, I've heard of Jehovah, I've heard of Sango and I've heard of Zeus. None of them is real. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by finofaya: 8:25am On Sep 08, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: Dude, infinity is not a number. This is beside the point anyway. The point I was trying to make is that knowledge of astronomy does not equal omniscience. It is an impressive feat, but it is not omniscience. Not that I agree with your interpretation of the verse tho. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by dalaman: 8:39am On Sep 08, 2015 |
FOLYKAZE: Na fight ooo. . Context my friend. |
Re: What Would You Consider As Proof Of God by Nobody: 8:42am On Sep 08, 2015 |
finofaya:dude even if infinity is "not a number(well it is)", infinity minus 1 is undeniably a number. Alright, give me your definition of omniscience. if you dont agree with my interpretations, google is there. look it up and post it here lets see! |
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