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Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Ofodirinwa: 10:46pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Myth: It is widely believed that Yoruba Ex-slave Samuel Crowther was the first to write the bible in the Igbo language. The truth has been revealed that it was written by Simon Jonas, an Igbo ex-slave from Sierra Leone who gave Crowther the book due to Crowther's interest in translating the bible into african languages. It is now known that Crowther oversaw the translation of the English bible into the Yoruba language and this was the only translation he completed before dying a few months after the book was completed. Fact: In 1857, an ex-slave of Igbo extraction, Simon Jonas, wrote the first manuscript written in Igbo language, 'Isoama-Ibo Primer'. This was done in Sierra Leone for emancipated slave from Igboland in Freetown, Sierra Leone. The Igbo dialect spoken in Sierra Leone is called Isoama/Isuama-Igbo. Ex-Lagos slave, Samuel Crowther, published it as a book. Both Jonas and Crowther stayed together in Lagos before being shipped to Sierra Leone. The mission to Onitsha which led to the translation was led by a group of ex slaves which included Simon Jonas (Igbo), Samuel Crowther (Yoruba) and Rev Taylor (Igbo). This is prompted by Crowther convincing the Anglican commission in Freetown and Lagos that it would be more effective to use natives to convert natives as opposed to europeans. Crowther was in Onitcha for a matter of weeks before heading off to Lokoja. Rev Taylor stayed in Onitsha and did the work that Nairalanders often credit to Crowther, who's only translation work was the Yoruba bible which he finished just before his death. Source http://anglicanhistory.org/africa/ng/dike_origins1957.html 7 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by oludare007: 10:52pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
another dimension to the tribal war!!! na u knws... 2 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Ofodirinwa: 10:56pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
lol Crowther's legacy is constantly used to insult igbos to the extent that the facts about it have been buried. Crowther could not speak or write Igbo and asked to be accompanied by Rev Taylor and Simon Jonas when going to Onitcha. Rev. Taylor was able to get land from the Obi at the time and build a church. The Obi welcomed this because it would strength the city (which at the time was only 2 miles long and separated by 1 central road) because he was at war with the people of Ogidi. At the time of their arrival many had abandoned the city due to constant attacks. Crowther noted that Onitcha was a very prosperous accomodating community before heading to Lokoja. He only spent weeks there before leaving, hardly enough time to write an entire bible given that his entire life was spent writing a yoruba bible. 7 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by IGBOPRINCE: 11:16pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Who is that fool that will believe that samuel ajayi crowther a yoruba man translated bible to igbo language? Choi, does he know how to speak igbo language from time? An ex slave for that matter, Right from day one I never believe it when those guys(ofe) were boasting about it.. The translator must surely be an igbo man eventhough they kept it hidden from us. Truth must always prevail. But the way crowther was taking the credit and the glory, there is God o. 7 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by EasternActivist: 11:24pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Nice one op... Yorubas likes to rewrite peoples history why?? 8 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by mightyhaze: 11:29pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Yea,av always thot so,...samuel ajayi crowther cudnt hav translated the bible in igbo. When did he learn 2 speak and write igbo??at old age?? Thx @ op for dat myth bust!! 9 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by hartopher76: 11:33pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
for your information the igbo bible was translated by one archedecon dennis. |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Blackfire(m): 11:34pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
I no agree... |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by ak47mann(m): 11:37pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Op is right never believe everything you hear from so call nigeria historian they mostly full of lies with no clearly evidence.The igbo migration the the present day that links us with NRI and igboikwu bronze those are well documented |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by ak47mann(m): 11:46pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
hartopher76:Archdeacon T J Dennis translated english bible to igbo version.His memorial was honored by other missionaries that came after him,they open a missionary school on remembrance of him which is my former school DMGS, then principal teachers was pure white english people.When ever you visit my former school check the name of our hostels names like Clark,Togwell,Livingston,Stanley etc those are our former principals |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by totit: 11:50pm On Feb 16, 2016 |
Ofodirinwa: 1856 == Crowther and Jonas stayed together in Lagos, where Jonas taught his master Igbo (Oraka p. 24). 1857 == Crowther produced the first book in Igbo, with Jonas's help. Isoama-Ibo Primer has 17 pages, with the Igbo alphabet, words, phrases, sentence patterns, the Lord's Prayer, the Ten Commandments, and translations of the first chapters of Matthew's Gospel. Thus Crowther became the first to use the Lepsius "Standard Alphabet" (Oraka p. 25). http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/igbohistory.html 5 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Weedcrusher: 12:10am On Feb 17, 2016 |
And why is the name of this strange Sierra Leone igbo just popping up now. Why is there no literature acknowledging his work? Liar liar pants on fire. totit: Thanks for enlightening them with facts. Who would have taught the Jonas guy was even a servant to Bishop Crowther 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by mrjangaweed: 12:17am On Feb 17, 2016 |
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Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Ofodirinwa: 12:21am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Crowther could not speak Igbo and thus Jonas came from Freetown to work on converting Igbos. Jonas spoke Isuoma-Igbo, and wrote his work, giving it to Crowther in 1857 before departing back to Freetown. The missionaries, J. F. Schön, ahttp://negstor.rowbory.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-history-and-impact-of-the-igbo-bible-1840-1920.pdf Samuel Ajayi Crowther (c. 1809–31 December 1891) was a linguist and the first African Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Born in Osogun (in what is now Iseyin Local Government, Oyo State, Nigeria), Crowther was a Yoruba who also identified with Sierra Leone's ascendant Creole ethnic group. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ajayi_Crowther 2 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Ofodirinwa: 12:25am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Fact: Upon arriving to Igboland after his studies into the Igbo Language, Crowther and his master Scheon learned that the Igbo they had been learning was not intelligable to the locals because it was an adulterated form of the language formed by Sierra Leonean Igbos that had been seperated from their homeland for many generations "I was not a little mortified today by observing that the dialect of the Ibo language, on which I had bestowed much labour in Sierra Leone, differs widely from that spoken and understood in this part of the country. It never escaped my observation that a great diversity of dialects existed, but I must blame myself" Mark O. Ogharaerumi, The Translation of the Bible into the Yoruba, Igbo and Isekiri Languages of Nigeria, (unpublished PhD thesis, Aberdeen University, 1986), 169; |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Ofodirinwa: 12:26am On Feb 17, 2016 |
In Summary 1. The Anglican Church assembled a group of native africans lead by a white man named Schoen to master the Igbo language after Crowther suggested it would be more effective to do missionary work with Africans than Europeans. 2. The group assembled Jonas (Igbo), who and other Sierra Leonean Igbos who spoke a dialect called Isuoma, which was only spoken in S.Leone by former slaves. 3. Upon finishing the Primer, which was written in 1857 by Jonas (Igbo), he handed his work over the Crowther and Scheon and went back to Sierra Leone. 4. The Igbo in the Primer and that which Crowther was familiar with was a failure when they reach Igboland as the natives did not understand them, they didn't understand the natives, and natives cited they weren't Igbo speakers. The dialect was only spoken among former slaves of igbo descent in S.leone and had been several adulterated over generations. 5. Crowther died years after finishing his real work, which was a Yoruba bible. 6. almost 20 years after his death and Igbo bible was written. Today he is credited for writing the Igbo bible which is a proven falsehood and the Igbo primer, which was written by Jonas. All sources for my information have been cited. 2 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Ofodirinwa: 12:26am On Feb 17, 2016 |
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Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by totit: 12:27am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Weedcrusher: My brother, I tire too oo Lol 1 Like |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by JaredNomak: 12:52am On Feb 17, 2016 |
totit: 1891 == Bishop Crowther died (over 80), and the Isuama-Igbo period died with him. By this time two young men, the Englishman T. J. Dennis and the Sierra Leonean Henry Johnson, had joined the mission (Oraka p. 27). 1892 == Julius Spencer, an Onitsha-based Sierra Leonean missionary, published An Elementary Grammar of the Igbo Language. This was revised by Archdeacon Dennis in 1916 (Oraka p. 30). 3 Likes |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by oduastates: 12:53am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Fact checked on page 1 already. |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Machiavelli999(m): 1:15am On Feb 17, 2016 |
ak47mann:and Ogoazi 1 Like |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by PRXPERT: 1:30am On Feb 17, 2016 |
I have always suspected that lie! How can ajai crowd see space to learn igbo talk more of translating it.. waste people like rewriting history... |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by cheruv: 1:48am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Thanks for busting that foul smelling myth of Shemuel Ajayi Krauda and his shit of Igbo Bible translation. I'd also welcome other acts like this that'd rubbish whatever links we've with those beings living West of the Siluko river |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Masterclass32: 2:06am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Op just made a sophisticated move. Will save this thread for future reference. Good "jab" @ Op. |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by ak47mann(m): 7:29am On Feb 17, 2016 |
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Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by ayindejimmy(m): 7:37am On Feb 17, 2016 |
totit: #Fact |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by JaredNomak: 7:44am On Feb 17, 2016 |
ayindejimmy:Fact Indeed! JaredNomak: |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by Nobody: 9:11am On Feb 17, 2016 |
EasternActivist: Dont mind them,just like they are doing with the benins...but trust the benins are not dulling too, they have brilliant scholars that can tell their history too https://www.nairaland.com/2938573/benin-kingdom-vs-yoruba-race#42985639 |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by gigabyte13: 10:19am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Irrelevant people trying to be relevant, when their irrelevancy politically, socially, morally is so so obvious to the blind. 1 Like |
Re: Myth Debunked: Samuel Crowther's Book Written By Sierra Leonian Igbo by totit: 10:40am On Feb 17, 2016 |
xharder: You just don't call people a liar. There are facts and things you must consider before you do so. The British came and colonised africa,nigeria et al..they left/force their culture, language on us which is why till today english is nigeria official language and some nigerian bear english names. You people are just being emotional for naddded! Now answer this question if that was the case how come Yoruba own bini crown, why is it that till today that's the case and yoruba language is being used? How was it possible that the master of the slave adopted slave language, names and culture? I.e, OBA? Is Oba bini language? 1 Like |
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