Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm that's what is called BRAINWASHING

TRUE FAITH will equip adherents and makes them a blessing to the society NOT a curse!

But the fact remains that there are lots of things people do that they don't know the evil implications following it, so when faithful people turn down such things, physical men who are spiritually blind start taking offenses.

For instance
Birthday, Christmas, New Year, Easter, Valentine are traps set by the unseen beings to hold people hostage to racism and politics but only the wise can understand this!

GRIMMJOE:
Too bad humans are dumb, like really really dumb.

MuttleyLaff:
"Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved,
clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and longsuffering."
- Colossians 3:12

God is the only and single God among other gods, who is self-existent, compassionate and true. The one religion, that God approves of and takes to be true, pure and which you cant find a fault with, is compassion and/or empathy to others.

It is a travesty that compassion, now seen and known as a noun, used to be a verb. There is a nobility in compassion, a beauty in empathy, and a grace in forgiveness, says Irish writer, John Connolly

I am pleased to see that you recognise and acknowledge James 1:27, in that the only religion that is true, pure, one that God approves and finds no fault in it, that one should follow fully is to show compassion and/or empathy

Christians are taught to practice religion, and James 1:27 provides useful and interesting information on the type of religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless, looking up the meaning of compassion in the dictionary, lets it sink home too

We all accept and agree that religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera. Case in point, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAR, etcetera actually are religions. Also, for some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion. For some others, fashion is a religion. Atheism too, funnily enough, as well, is a religion however there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless. So let's call a spade, a spade, as nobody, not even you alBHAGDADI or anyone else, can find a fault in empathy and/or with compassion.

It is organised religion(s), like for example, Christianity, before any of the loyal opposition atheists latch on to that Karl Marx comment, that is called the opium of the people, and not empathy and/or compassion, that is pure, true and undefiled before God

Compassion cuts right through Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, New Age, Heathenism, ATR etcetera
Do you, during emergencies, like during immediate risk or danger to health, life, property or environment, ever ask about someone's belief or unbelief first, before offering them help or assistance?
GRIMMJOE, do you ever first, ask about someone's belief or unbelief before extending your compassion to them, especially when in time of need?
Do you GRIMMJOE, ask them first before helping, if they are a buddist, muslim, atheist or ATR practioner? No GRIMMJOE, I dont think you or anyone with the right thinking does. That is what we all are expected to do, an act like that is pure, true and you cant fault it. It is the religion that gives the person practising it, a free pass into the kingdom

Yes, the call out for the removal of religion, false religion, is some call that should've happened a long time ago. Just like the word "mouse", the word "religion" too, has changed its meaning from what it originally was. It has changed from when it used to be about benevolence, thoughtful consideration and generosity for other people in need. Its changed from when it used to be associated with the word "compassion". What a travesty, if only, more christians read their bibles, there'd be less christians. You see, having compassion makes you care, lets you become less prejudiced, makes you less extreme, less intense or violent to want to kill, antagonise or fight unjust wars with another, makes you tolerant to others, stops you from imposing and collecting levies from unsuspecting parishioners.

If anyone wants to do religion, then compassion, is the religion, on record, deemed pure and faultless by God

Whatever the front, however it is painted and however you've perceived religion to be,
the truth and fact is, what is fronted as pure and faultless religion in today's world, isnt it.

Religion, that is pure and faultless, is about, not, how regular one prays, is not about regular congregated attendance, is not about religiously and/or regularly and not go miss tithe giving. Religion, that is pure and faultless, is not, about wearing hijab or burka

Even before what the world has become today, a priest & levite (i.e. pastor and "church" worker) in Luke 10:25-37 had slipped up on what pure and faultless religion is. Most are familiar with the story of the traveler, who fell into the dastardly hands of robbers and got stripped of clothing, beaten and left half dead alongside the road. Notice, the pastor or the Daddy G O, Apostle, Prophet or Bishop (i.e. the priest), the choirmaster or usher or church worker (i.e. the Levite) switched off their "compassion, empathy, sympathy, consideration and/or sensitiveness" innate behaviour button. The priest was going down the road the man was left half dead, but when the priest saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, the Levite, when the Levite came to same spot and saw him, he passed by him, by crossing on the other side of the road.

Anything less than practising, pure, faultless and undefiled in God's eyes religion, is not true and so thereby is false religion. If it's not compassion centric it is false impure and faulty religion. Freedom from Luke 10:25-37 and any of that kind of other religion is the best thing ever to call for, however freedom from pure and true religion, undefiled in God's eyes, is the worst thing ever, that will happen to humanity. There is only one true and pure religion in the world - untainted Empathy and Compassion.

If you like skim through this post and fleetingly read it, or call it bullshit, like I am guessing you'll prolly do

GRIMMJOE:
Act 3:16, Deuteronomy 10:21, John 2:11, Luke 18:27, Mark 9:23, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 19:26, Act 9:11-12.
And my favorite Jeremiah 32:27

GRIMMJOE:
Yes not the literal meaning of the word.

GRIMMJOE:
Okay, let know this distinction you talk about, maybe it will bring back the dead, who knows.

Maximus69:


I'm not obligated to answer any question, remember what your faculty teaches you "humans are FREE agents"

Maximus69:

So if you choose to ask me a question and i choose to answer, there is no rule, law or constitution on this planet that stipulate i must satisfy your curiosity. Therefore it's INTOLERANCE that leads men to think they can just walk up to someone, ask him questions and demand he must answer to their satisfaction!

Maximus69:

So if you choose to ask me a question and i choose to answer, there is no rule, law or constitution on this planet that stipulate i must satisfy your curiosity.

Maximus69:

Please that's what is causing TERRORISM, nobody owe anybody any reason whatsoever for his/her choice of speech, expression or worship!

Maximus69:

It's within my own PERSONAL opinion to decide whether to please you in quenching your thirst on my PERSONAL ideas or not;

Maximus69:

Human right na my PROPERTY~ Fela Anikulapo Kuti

GRIMMJOE:

You rather quote Fela than quote your Bible, shows how reliable it truly us.

Maximus69:


Fela Anikulapo Kuti is a legend that can't be forgotten for the next 100 years!

He is our contemporary, so i quote him to prove most people agreed with the concept of FREEDOM of speech expression and worship!

Maximus69:
GRIMMJOE, abeg i don close!

Maximus69:
GRIMMJOE, abeg i don close!

GRIMMJOE:
We die here.

MuttleyLaff:

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None of the posited verses, including your fav one, is anything about "promise miracles" and about the Bible emphasizing a lot about miracle, but fails performing them in real life too. What are you playing at here?

OK, then

"Atheism is a religion but I don't believe in it

Religion takes different shape and form, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera.
For some, sports, like football or hockey is a religion.
For others some, fashion too is a religion

Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, New Age, Scientology, Paganism, TAF etcetera too are religions
however there is only one true and pure religion, that is faultless. So let's call a spade, a spade"
- by MuttleyLaff: 4:23pm On Dec 24, 2018

"Football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion, fashion for some is a religion and atheism too funnily enough too is a religion. The word religion, just like the word mouse, has over the passage of time changed from what it originally meant from what your dictionary says it is"
- by MuttleyLaff: 1:00am On Jan 01

"It is organised religion(s), like for example, Christianity, that is called the opium of the people, and not empathy and/or compassion, that is pure, true and without faults Ranchh.oddas

....Religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals etcetera, and so football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion, fashion, for some, is a religion and atheism too funnily enough, as well, is a religion but nobody, not even you Ranch.hoddas, can find a fault in empathy and/or with compassion"
- by MuttleyLaff: 12:15am On Jan 14

GRIMMJOW, what is your morbid obsession with bringing back the dead sef? Why? Is it because you are afraid to die. Hope you havent got a form of terminal illness, sha.

We disgressed, so back on track. So GRIMMJOE, religion, that is true and pure, the sort that God finds no faults with, is intrinsically all about empathy and/or compassion. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Love, is the highest virtue, however the religion you are advised to follow is empathy and/or compassion. These are what you are advised to religiously be doing, as in having and/or showing compassion or empathy. They are the only true pure religion and that is approved of by God.

It is that same true religion that made a Samaritian transcend, rise to the occasion and attend to one that depises him, someone that sees the Samaritian as dog, when the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and Levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) passed by on the other side.

PS: GRIMMJOE, since you have made your point, please remove those ghoulish ugly and unpleasant graphic pics. Spare us the savagery and man's inhumanity to man. Thank you

Maximus69:


God believes in himself and what he made!

He knew the way he created us and he's sure that we are fit to discern whatever the spirit beings plan to deceive us. That's why he could say about the "dumb ones"

"The default is as a result of their own stupidity NOT my own work" Deuteronomy 32:5 compare to James 1:13-15

Meanwhile you haven't addressed the issue of "LIES" because i just ignored that before since you and i were chatting based on COMMON SENSE and NOT the Bible, and there is no rule under this heaven that's based on COMMON SENSE that says "it is a crime to tell lies"!

But if you want us to base our thinking on what the Bible REALLY teach now, i'll wish we address the issue of the LIES.

So where have i told you a LIE?

GRIMMJOE:
Typical Christian not wanting to accept reality, that pic would remain there so we all see the beauty of religion.

I'm not scared of death, I've always believe one lifetime is enough, if I had the choice to choose I wouldn't have chosen at all.

Now I'm worried about my children, look at the nonsense I'll be bringing them to.

GRIMMJOE:
Is it a crime to tell lies? Answer this questions and you equally have my answer.

Will you teach your child to tell lies?
If yes, lying isn't a crime
If no, lying is a crime

Maximus69:


First of all, why must every human think of raising children?

Secondly, why must you brainwash a child to think like you?

Well, there is just one source of information where something like the SPIRIT of TRUTH is clearly stated, in the absence of this there is no way to quantify anything as LIE!

So if you and your cohorts insist that the only source of information that says the spirit of truth must be inculcated in people's minds, then there shouldn't be anything like lies!

ATHEISM is fighting for FREETHINKING, i can't grasp why a freethinker must always be subjected to a line of thought!

He/she should be FREE to decide whether to disclose any info (tell the truth) or make it confidential while speaking (tell a lie)!

GRIMMJOE:
Yes or No

MuttleyLaff:
fao:GRIMMJOE
... I'll now go ahead tell an incident, to allay your misconception about what you seem to think I advocate, when you lumbered me with Pastor.AIO and Emmany.stone on the "Des Pensees" thread

At least over 15 years ago, we were having a relaxed and easy-going chat at the home of the pastor where we used to fellowship.
The chit chat drifted to him narrating a situation involving him and some other parties over an issue
During the course of the conversation, the pastor friend threw in, like as in a matter of fact and case of frankness, that:
"you know, I just said it because you know, I can't lie..."

We left and upon getting back home, whilst in the bedroom, reliving the day's event, I asked my other half, and said:
Hang on, what was he trying to say?. Is he trying to imply he doesnt lie?. He doesnt ever lie?

My other half, smiled and then laughed, kikiki ki.

PS:Just that you know,
Though already fascinated by his action in 2013, on the day before Good Friday but I am beginning to warm more to Jorge Mario Bergoglio because of what Eugenio Scalfari revealed, he in private, told him about hell. Venerable Fulton J Sheen and Cardinal Francis Arinze too both intelligent and well informed too, I warm to

OK, you've been successful in forcing my hand to type against my better timing.

You wouldnt see where...
because your tete a tete with Ubene.dictus, in the first place, wasnt on this thread ...

GRIMMJOE:
Is it a crime to tell lies? Answer this questions honestly and you equally have my answer.

GRIMMJOE:
Will you teach your child to tell lies?

GRIMMJOE:
If yes, lying isn't a crime

GRIMMJOE:
If no, lying is a crime

MuttleyLaff:
Death, afterall, it a transition, walking out of one door, into another door. I am pleased you arent scared of death, just I aint too either. I have so far, had a good run. I thank God for the experience of life and the mileage so far done with it.

Dont be self centred, if you arent worried about your children, why not care about other people's kids etcetera

You obviously didnt read the entire post before hurreiedly scrolling down to the postscript and in typical kneejerk and spiteful manner type this ignorant and irrational outburst post. What is perpetrated in that picture, is not religion that is pure, that is true and the sort that God wouldnt find fault with GRIMMJOE. It is a betrayal and/or departure of good values by society, by your elites, your media, your embraced dogma, your perverted religion, your community/ neighbourhood/national leaders, you and I. We are all guilty of dereliction of duty for failing to match up. It has nothing to do with religion and leaving the picture pasted there isnt doing anything except satiate sadists and masochists.

If voice of reason, sense of decency and doing the right thing wont prevail, then suit yourself nah. Own goal. Sour grapes things going on, lol

PS: It is the God given talent, the gift of Abami Ẹda Baba Kuti RIP, just as like that of: Michael Jackson RIP, Jehovah's Witnesses' Prince RIP, Bob Marley RIP, Rick James RIP, Freddie Mercury RIP, General Prince Adekunle RIP, Alhaji Haruna Ishola RIP, Lisa Lopes stage name Left Eye RIP, Aaliyah RIP, Colonel Abrams RIP, Justin Fashanu RIP, Barry White RIP, Teddy Pendergrass RIP, Muhammad Ali RIP etcetera that I appreciate and not neccessarily their individual life style, what they get up to in their personal or private lives.

It is their energies, their creativity, their brilliance, their some prophetic craft, their their energies, their creativity, their creative ahead of their time that I celebrate, just as Jesus will say, in Matthew 10:16 about be wise as serpents. Nothing wrong in being as wise as serpent , without being a serpent outright

MuttleyLaff:

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This honestly speaking IMHO isnt a fair question to ask nor would I see it, as an open and shut case question either, because for starters, as you can see in my attached intro pasted above from a previous thread, everyone lies, everyone, does the occasional little white lies, at the very least, let's not deceive ourselves. We've all being caught in that between a rock and a hard place moment, when being asked the "am I fat, does my bum look fat in this" lol, but anyway in the spirit of it all, I will nonetheless participate as opposed to spectating and so oblige you the question, lol

No, I will not teach my child to tell lies.
I vividly right now, do remember my better half and I, specifically telling our kids not to lie etcetera

Wrong, the circustances determines whether it is a criminal to have lied or it is not criminal to have lied

Wrong, the circustances determines whether it is a criminal to have lied or it is not criminal to have lied

Lying done when under oath, is criminal, and that will be a crime and/or commiting a crime.

Now GRIMMJOE, to lie, circumstantially, can be sin. How it becomes a sin, can be appreciated from Exodus 20:16, the 9th commandment, that states: "Do not tell lies about others and/or Never lie when you testify about your neighbor" and/or Deuteronomy 5:20 that equally states: "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" while Deuteronomy 19:18-19, in details, states "18The judges must make a thorough investigation. If it is found that the witness lied when he testified against the other Israelite, 19then do to him what he planned to do to the other person. You must get rid of this evil"
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GRIMMJOE:
I brought a picture of a man in his own blood killed by Christians

GRIMMJOE:
but you quickly scrolled passed it, If it isn't you then it's not your problem, right?

GRIMMJOE:
Now you come talking about creativity, creativity on roasting and barbecuing people, since your God does it there's nothing wrong, right?

GRIMMJOE:
Are you the one I asked?

MuttleyLaff:
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So? Nothing new there

I wouldnt put it pass a good majority of a Christian not to do.

I didnt quickly scroll it passed. In fact, I actually stayed on the page, taking in the barbarity, the act of savagery, extremity and intensity of violence perpetrated there. Smh.

It has nothing to do with whether it personally is my problem. Stop being self centred and thinking of just self alone. Think of others, this of other people, think of other people's children/kids. Think of your neighbour. Guess it was too much to ask

Please listen to yourself. Dont put yourself on the same pedestal as God, your Maker, the Lord, Owner of your breath.

Now you have gone creative with making up stories about me, alleging that I've talked about "... roasting and barbecuing people ..." Now this is making false witness against a neighbour. You know, you gone too far with that lie, which if I ask you for proof of, you would never be able to substantiate. Smh. You are slowly but surely increasingly by the day becoming a LIAR. Its a shame seeing you stoop and resort to lying just in order to make a cheap point. Everything posted, just goes swoosh over your head, as if like, its a Naija Airforce fighter jet flying by low. Smh

MuttleyLaff:

Dont be self centred, if you arent worried about your children, why not care about other people's kids etcetera

GRIMMJOE:
And MuttleyLaff don't compare me with you, I don't lie because I'm not scared of anybody, not even your imaginary God.

GRIMMJOE:
God created you in his own image...

GRIMMJOE:
God love roasting people, it's only nature you do too.

GRIMMJOE:
That's why I posted the picture for you to enjoy your barbecue.

GRIMMJOE:
@ Maximus69 come and see you fellow barbecue eater, you claim they are not the real Christian yet you both read the same fictional book.
"Muttleylaff: lying is not a crime except when it is white"
So Maximus69, what color of lies have you been telling us?

GRIMMJOE:
[s] Are you the one I asked?

GRIMMJOE:
@ Maximus69 come and see you fellow barbecue eater, you claim they are not the real Christian yet you both read the same fictional book.

"Muttleylaff: lying is not a crime except when it is white"

So Maximus69, what color of lies have you been telling us?

Maximus69:
In a world filled with troubles people are bound to tell lies, but when we talk about FAITHFUL people the case is different because we believe in God the one who will repay us for doing something that seems stupid amidst others! Hebrew 11:6

If you think people shouldn't allow anyone or anything to gain control of their minds, then you better forget about honesty because there is nothing that's at stake when people lie to save their neck, whereas a person's life might come to an end if he should openly declare certain things!

That is what Our Master, Lord and King (Jesus Christ) meant when he said "If anyone wants to follow me, he MUST DISOWN HIMSELF" Matthew 16:24

Please is that not against your human thinking?

So how on this planet do you now expect honesty when you remove Jesus (the one who said that) out of the picture?

MuttleyLaff:
Mister man, will you please stay in your hypocritical, sanctimonious, self lane. Afterall you did say, you are done with me. Mister Forgetful-Promise-Breaker

GRIMMEJOE, ask him, Maximus69, to paste out here what Matthew 18:11 says in or from the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) and whats the reason for it, if he is unable to do so

"Wọn pi irẹsi, oun na yọ sibi" loosely translates as "rice is served, he too is pulling out his cutlery"

Maximus69:
[s]Sorry! But i don't think i mention or quote you! [/s]

MuttleyLaff:

Maximus69:


First of all, i've told you that there is just one and only organization of TRUE Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) so whoever is NOT a member of that group is NOT a Christian!

MuttleyLaff:
Mister man, will you please stay in your hypocritical, sanctimonious, self lane. Afterall you did say, you are done with me, Mister Forgetful-Promise-Breaker

Maximus69:
[s]Please i've been responding only to GRIMMJOE's post!
However i tender an apology for anything else! [/s]

GRIMMJOE:
LordReed LordReed come and see two confused Christians fighting over whose fictional God is more real, they can't even agree on a name.

Okay, now I'm ready to become a full blown Christian, but how will I know I'm choosing the right Christian. buahahaha.

MuttleyLaff:
God is Self Existent. God is neither created nor God create God.

You came into the world alone, you will return back alone. You will face judgment alone and you will give account alone. Get used to this and stop tag-teaming budaatum. Obtain your understanding just as budaatum has advised you, obtain it to the level of your capacity, perspective, level and whatnot, lol. Leave out budaatum, lol