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Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 10:36pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
Millions of christians have moved past this foolishness of debating evolution. Evolution is taught in catholic schools. The Archbishop of Cantebury supports evolution. The Anglican church supports evolution. Evolution is taught in schools. Modern day orthodox Jews support evolution. Modern day conservative Jews support evolution. Evolution is taught in schools in ALL developed countries. Evolution should not be debated but alas! we have backyard protestant and pentecostal churches (Especially the ones in which pastors have maybacjs and private jets) who still reject evolution. It comes as no suprise as many "black" churches in the USA do not accept evolution. Ironically, the churches that have been existing close to the beginning of christianity accept evolution but the ones formed recently choose not to. When will my fellow Nigerians on Niaraland wake up and move into the 21st century? If you have time and internet connection, you have no excuse to be ignorant about evolution. Stop this ignorance. |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by cyrexx: 10:57pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
no they wont. their rational mind is totally overpowered by their religious mind. their religion teach them that anything that is against their holy book is a demonic deception that is designed to lead them to hell fire. with that thinking, its difficult for them to objectively look at evolution. they will rather believe their holy book's creation myth than believe this scientific truth. |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 11:03pm On Aug 03, 2012 |
cyrexx: no they wont. But even the Catholics and Jews are accepting evolution, what is wrong with these New age "private Jet" christians? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Areaboy2(m): 12:00am On Aug 04, 2012 |
I call them "comfort" Christians Take only what they want, when they want, how they want, and where they want from the bible and stay happy. talk about a grand scale cherry-pick |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 12:06am On Aug 04, 2012 |
Area_boy: I call them "comfort" Christians lmao |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 12:32am On Aug 04, 2012 |
Logicbwoy: Millions of christians have moved past this foolishness of debating evolution. Evolution is taught in catholic schools. The Archbishop of Cantebury supports evolution. The Anglican church supports evolution. Evolution is taught in schools. Modern day orthodox Jews support evolution. Modern day conservative Jews support evolution. Evolution is taught in schools in ALL developed countries. Then return back to the churches,,..... Isn't that what u want?? Isn't that what is giving u joy?? Seeing christians gradually leaving bible tenets and clinging to follies seems to make u glad... In other words u are also alluding that d catholics and anglicans in the western world have discarded the creation account....right?? Since they now(from ur report) espouce d evolution theory I guess ur now satisfied and can return back to the churches.... Or mayb u still aint satisfied..... U want them to finally believe there is no God....... Abi?? If not for d whites would u ever have heard of the evolution theory?? Think for a second......... |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 12:38am On Aug 04, 2012 |
May I remind u that d 1st church that ever existed in jerusalem never knew aÑything about evolution.... The 1st century christians never doubted d creation account...... The Jews believed in the creation account.... So who da hell do u think made catholics the yard stick for modern christians to measure up to?? Oboy take time o....... If some modern christians believe in d evolution theory(THEORY) then it isn't my business.....after all it is still those same churches that appoint gay priests and bishops.... There whole knowledge and respect for d bible is now distorted.... They can't distinguish between right and wrong..... Are thÓse d kinda christians I shuld imitate?? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 1:12am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: May I remind u that d 1st church that ever existed in jerusalem never knew aÑything about evolution.... Catholic churches do not appoint gay pastors. The first denomination was the catholic chruch. That is why in the past they were saying that catholics were the only christians |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:37am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ewwwwwww christians be homo in worship place. that sukks. you fellows have destroyed the very name of religion. . |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by plaetton: 2:00am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: May I remind u that d 1st church that ever existed in jerusalem never knew aÑything about evolution....First, the catholic church is the mother church of christianity. If the catholic dna is faulty, then her numerous offsprings cannot be any thing different from her. Pls do not deny your mother. Repudiating the catholic church is an acknowledgement that the holy sea is the crazy mother of your clearly disfunctional christian family. Might I also remind you that the first century christians and people did not know about the ATOMS and neither did they know that GERMS were the cause of disease. Are the first century mindsets and knowhow the kind from which you should imitate and mould your worldview? Pls answer. |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 7:38am On Aug 04, 2012 |
Logicbwoy: So the 1st century christians were catholics?? Right?? There was a 1st century church,organized religion back then in d 1st century...... And the principles those guys laid are the ones I follow ....not the catholics.... Soon u'll be the 1st to attack this same catholics for carrying out d crusade...... Evolution is not a bible teaching...it refutes the creation account......so I refuse to accept it....... |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 7:41am On Aug 04, 2012 |
plaetton: U see urself?? The 1st century christians didn't know about atoms but they were well aware of the fact that the earth was round and was hanging on nothing......... Abi?? the 1st century christians were d 1st real true chistians to ever exist and they play an integral role in the formation of christianity..... The apostles upheld creation not evolution.... So why shuld I follow the catholics like mumu?? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Areaboy2(m): 9:04am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: It is really a shame you don't know the history of your religion. And yet you have the energy to come here swinging wild punches and hope they connect someone's jaw. That will work with amatures only. We R all prfessional boxers here. You need more training |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Delafruita(m): 9:45am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: May I remind u that d 1st church that ever existed in jerusalem never knew aÑything about evolution....i do hope you realise every culture and ancient civilization had its own creation account just as the jews had theirs you do realise that those catholics created the bible.if you despise them so much,you should despise all their practices like the bible,christmas,easter,sunday worship etc |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Delafruita(m): 9:48am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid:first,there was no "organized early church".if there was,then why were the preachers arrested and jailed for breaking the law? since you follow the principles of the "early church" i guess you also have slaves and treat women as inferior fellows |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Delafruita(m): 9:53am On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid:did you go to school at all?how would you say the early church believed in a round earth when there such thinking only came into the consciousness of men with the advent of voyages by sailors?when vasco da gama set out on his voyage,his major aim was to prove the world was round.his men feared they will get to the end and fall off.i wont indulge your ignorance further by schooling you.perhaps the early church also knew the earth revolved round the sun and that the sun was the center of the universe |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 10:13am On Aug 04, 2012 |
Delafruita: Ijawkid is proud to be ignorant |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 1:31pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
Delafruita: The early christians who read d hebrew scriptures knew d earth was round and hanging on nothing..... Jews knew that...... For any Jew who read d scriptures knew that..... The book of isaiah and Job confirms that....... When I mean the early church I don't mean d catholics...I mean the apostles and 1st century christians.... If u had read ur bible well and not be a skeptic u wuld have known that d bible scientifically was and is accurate even b4 u and ur fore fathers were born..... |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 1:34pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: See this liar....the bible had a flat earth mentality! Daniel 4:7-8, "I saw a tree of great height at the center of the world. It was large and strong, with its top touching the heavens, and it could be seen from the ends of the earth." This was allegedly an inspired dream, yet it conveys a flat-earth concept, because no matter how tall a tree would be, people on the other side of a spherical earth could not see it. Matthew 4:8, "The devil took him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and displayed before him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence...." The only plausible reason for the "very high mountain" was that the altitude would make it possible to see to the ends of the earth. Only on a flat earth would this be remotely possible, so the New Testament writers were as ignorant as the Old. In Genesis 11:4, the people wanted to build a tower up to heaven. If you look at the graphics above, you can see their concept of heavenly bodies under the dome, not all that far away. Presumably, the Lord was afraid they would be able to accomplish their plan, so he caused them to speak various languages. This, of course, is not the reason people speak different languages, but nothing is too fantastic for the ignorant to believe |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 1:41pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
Logicbwoy: Now I can understand why u became an atheist....u barely understand scriptures.... Now who told u the tree mentioned in daniel was a literal tree?? I wan nearly call u mumu now now.....lol.... So since u've been reading that verse with the thought that the tree mentioned there was a literal tree....sorry for u...... Let me get u my scriptures........ Ur so myopic as to bible reasoning..... |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Areaboy2(m): 1:48pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: when you read someone else's post, try to understand what they say. dont simply skim thru and draw favourable conclusions for yourself |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 1:48pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: Prove that the tree is literal. How do you know what is literal and not? Is God metaphorical? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by plaetton: 1:54pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: Hmmmm. So the tree is not literal? Ok. What about the 7 days of creation, is that literal? And how about the talking snake, the burning bush, a man rising from death and so many many others in the bible? Are they all literal or do you just pick and choose to suit your whims? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 2:08pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
Logicbwoy: Ok here I am with my scriptures..... Like I said any Jew who read Gods word daily wuld knw that the earth was round and hanging on nothing.... Centuries b4 science could discover the earths make up God had inspired men to pen down truths about the earth...... Since mayb u don't have a bible I'll quote... And mind u these scriptures are to also explain that the tree mentioned in daniel isn't just a literal tree.... Isaiah 40:22..... ##New International Version (©1984) He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. ##New Living Translation (©2007) God sits above the circle of the earth. The people below seem like grasshoppers to him! He spreads out the heavens like a curtain and makes his tent from them. ##English Standard Version (©2001) It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in; ##New American Standard Bible (©1995) It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. ##King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:. ##King James 2000 Bible (©2003) It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are as grasshoppers; that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in: ##American King James Version It is he that sits on the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in: Mayb u can say this verse was added after scientist traveled outer space to confirm the earths roundness....... How on earth culd isaiah have known this scientific truth?? Meanwhile let's see what job has to say about the earth..... ##New International Version (©1984) He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. ##New Living Translation (©2007) God stretches the northern sky over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing. ##English Standard Version (©2001) He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing. ##New American Standard Bible (©1995) "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing. ##King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. ##GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) "He stretches out his heavens over empty space. He hangs the earth on nothing whatsoever. ##King James 2000 Bible (©2003) He stretches out the north over the empty place, and hangs the earth upon nothing. American King James Version He stretches out the north over the empty place, and hangs the earth on nothing. Long before scientists culd invent the telescope ,travel outer space the bible,Gods inspired word has it that the earth was hanging on nothing....... Is or was the bible lying?? Jews knew all this scientific facts....... The apostles who had read d law and those of the prophets knew all these...... I'll be back to explain what the tree in daniel u quoted means..... |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by suwailad(f): 2:15pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
@op are you not enjoying your right to free speech? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Delafruita(m): 2:17pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid:seriously,you're deranged.which early christians read the hebrew scripture?when did the bible come into existence?where did the book of isaiah say the earth is round?you cant just make conjectures with the assumption that your readers are dumb,illiterate folks like the early christians. the same bible that mentions the "ends of the earth" in psalms,ecclesiastes,isiash,deuteronomy and many other parts is the one you claim says something else. who were the apostles?illiterate fishermen.these are the people who were harbingers of enormous knowledge in your opinion.ILLITERATE FISHERMEN. the bible indeed make a lot of sense when you read the old testament.you read where moses makes laws and those laws are required for an orderly society.you read where he classifies clean and unclean meat and you understand it was to preserve a healthy community.you read where he advocates cleaning and other things and it all makes sense.but such practices werent unique to just the jews.many civilizations were appearing all around the vast expanse of the universe |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 2:17pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: Ode...a circle is flat. |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 2:20pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: Furthermore, the is no "above" the earth. North pole and south pole have different "aboves" |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 3:13pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
Logicbwoy: Millions of christians have moved past this foolishness of debating evolution. Evolution is taught in catholic schools. The Archbishop of Cantebury supports evolution. The Anglican church supports evolution. Evolution is taught in schools. Modern day orthodox Jews support evolution. Modern day conservative Jews support evolution. Evolution is taught in schools in ALL developed countries. Can you please SHAT AP, overall? |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by ijawkid(m): 3:44pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
Logicbwoy: Lol.... As usual u interprete d bible d way u wanna just to refute actual truths..... Keep doing that until u agree..... |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 4:57pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
Deep Sight: |
Re: Can Nairaland Christians Shut Up About Evolution? by Logicbwoy: 4:59pm On Aug 04, 2012 |
ijawkid: Lol....because I made one mistake. ode |
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