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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Yornandrew: 1:46pm On Aug 13, 2012
We are to give without expecting anything in return

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by acidtalk: 1:46pm On Aug 13, 2012
@uju, thanks a billion didn't see your post before commenting earlier but on the vices of people let me state my own two personal experiences from what you stated above.

* while in the university, I helped a female classmate who was below poverty level to get a job in one of my BEST clients firm and someone who is a societal lady and extremely popular till date in lagos. long story short, she went there to misbehave and that cost me one of my best clients ever as a young student/business owner then. This was a lady I pleaded for never to misbehave because that woman wasn't just an extremely wealthy and famous client but also someone who pays me 50times what I charge other clients without negotiating . As a student in the university, that woman was one of the people that made me never to ask for a dime from my family while in school, but also made me the envy of my mates in school (I was living large). The worst thing is not only did the lady never call me (she was only flashing) to complain about my client but never told me a simple "Thank you"

* Also my lawyer had his 3 phones stolen because he helped 2 ladies and a guy who were being soaked under the rain.

All these has never stopped me helping people because I always get repaid by God almost immediately by favours I render to others.

When I help people financially, to get jobs, and the rest, I always try never to expect them to appreciate it because ven Dogs, cats and chickens appreciate favours more than man. Man is full of ingratitude.

But one thing, if you look forward to the mercy and favour from God, then helping others is just inevitable. Afterall only someone helps someone to be someone in life (Through God)..

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 1:47pm On Aug 13, 2012
Ujujoan:

It's only Nigerians, as far as I know, that struggle to send money home to their parents and long- distant relatives.

It's only in Nigeria that a man will house his children, his sister's children and his brother's children in his one room apartment, in the name of 'helping'.

Just because Nigeria's donor-figures are low you concluded that Nigerians are the worst givers

Interesting!

um . . . again, please read. Nigerians ARE SOME OF THE WORST GIVERS . . . . go check the tables . . . there is a table for this information.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by chucky234(m): 1:48pm On Aug 13, 2012
For me its GIVE GIVE GIVE even when I don't expect anything in return I just give as it makes me happy knowing fully well that I just touched someone's life in my own little way.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Nobody: 1:48pm On Aug 13, 2012
My brother, it's just human nature. Apart from the sheer perversity that characterises most of us, we're often too self-centred - almost to the point to callousness. You'd see folks shamelessly blow N10m on a pointless party/celebration, but ask them to give a mere N50k to help rescue a family on the verge of homelessness, and they would say they do not have money. It's a terrible problem.

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 1:48pm On Aug 13, 2012
afam4eva:
You're right. people take cheerful givers for granted. They respect people that make them suffer before they give them money. Something similar happened to me.

Is this universal or are you speaking of Nigeria?
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 1:49pm On Aug 13, 2012
chucky234: For its GIVE GIVE GIVE and when I don't expect anything in return I just give as it makes me happy knowing full well that I just touched someone's life in my own little way.

A lot of people don't get this.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by diallo12(m): 1:51pm On Aug 13, 2012
afam4eva:
You're so right. But we should not because of these baggage that come once in a while not assist people in need. Though it's advisable that if you must help just try as much as possible to keep the person away from you. For instance, i don't support the idea of getting a job for someone that's close to you in the same place that you work except there's not alternative.
afam4ever pls explain ur point here.y can't u help sum1 who stays close 2 u get a job?
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Nobody: 1:53pm On Aug 13, 2012
Kobojunkie:

um . . . again, please read. Nigerians ARE SOME OF THE WORST GIVERS . . . . go check the tables . . . there is a table for this information.

I've always had a problem with you and your figures/tables!

They work better in politics, not in real life experiences! I really have to spell everything out to you. angry
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 1:54pm On Aug 13, 2012
Ujujoan:

I've always had a problem with you and your figures/tables!

They work better in politics, not in real life experiences! I really have to spell everything out to you. angry

I hate arguing against facts pulled from the air. I prefer facts that can be verified, if not, they might as well be beer parlour gossip passed around as facts, as many of us are used to here.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Aug 13, 2012
Question :- Why do we refuse to help people financially ?

Answer :- Because its a HELP and it doesnt include compulsion.

Giving should be on the basis of one's freewill without being tied to any moral or socail justice. You give unconditionally without expecting any form of thank you in return.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Nobody: 1:59pm On Aug 13, 2012
Kobojunkie:

I hate arguing with facts pulled from the air. I prefer facts that can be verified, if not, they might as well be beer parlour gossip passed around as facts, as many of us are used to here.

Verified on the basis of what? On the basis of how much fund goes into foreign help undecided

Your basis for verification is way off base madam.

Back to expecting something in return. . . . You are right, when I give I expect something from the receiver, I expect him/her not to turn around and bite my finger for feeding him!

PS: Ever asked yourself why begging in Nigeria is a very lucrative business? People even form deformities just to be able to beg on the streets. I wonder why they would if Nigerians were so stingy! undecided

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Jayfizz(m): 2:02pm On Aug 13, 2012
This life is military zone bro u gat 2 struggle for yah sef don't depend on pple...
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Afam4eva(m): 2:03pm On Aug 13, 2012
Kobojunkie:

Is this universal or are you speaking of Nigeria?
It's mostly a Nigerian pheunomenum. Some Nigerians see you as a maga if you keep helping them.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by OlaAdvert: 2:05pm On Aug 13, 2012
HELPing people financially is like giving them fish, Why can't we start teaching them how to fish

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Nobody: 2:09pm On Aug 13, 2012
Ola Advert: HELPing people financially is like giving them fish, Why can't we start teaching them how to fish

You mean like fashola employing all the corporate beggars in Lagos into the civil service ? shocked

Bros use your brain na.Where were the beggars when other people were planning their own lives ? You forget say,as you lay your bed,so you lie on it.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by queensmith: 2:09pm On Aug 13, 2012
Oleros: Why is it so hard for people to stick their necks out and help a fellow Nigerian in need except if there is a direct benefit being derived from such people. When the needies are pushed to the wall, they take to social ills, and when the arm of the law catches up with them for commiting such offences, the people that could have made a difference in such lives by giving N1,000.00 or so begin to blame the needy.


it's this sense of entitlement people have that bothers me. I have no problem helping out when i'm in the capacity to do so. I just don't want anyone demanding for it.

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 2:09pm On Aug 13, 2012
Ola Advert: HELPing people financially is like giving them fish, Why can't we start teaching them how to fish

Teaching is also giving.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 2:15pm On Aug 13, 2012
Ujujoan:

Verified on the basis of what? On the basis of how much fund goes into foreign help undecided

Your basis for verification is way off base madam.

Back to expecting something in return. . . . You are right, when I give I expect something from the receiver, I expect him/her not to turn around and bite my finger for feeding him!

PS: Ever asked yourself why begging in Nigeria is a very lucrative business? People even form deformities just to be able to beg on the streets. I wonder why they would if Nigerians were so stingy! undecided


a) if you only give to those who are your family members, are you really giving, or doing pretty much what every one else on the planet does? Those who practice the "keep it all in the family" ways aren't really considered givers when they do that, you know.

b) If you have numbers to counter those established facts, please produce em. I refuse to consider numbers pulled from air in this. The fact that majority of the NGOs in Nigeria still depend to a great deal on foreign aid, speaks to me on how much our people, and politicians do for even the less privilegded. In Some states, the politicians would rather dip into the state's pocket to get money to fund things like mass feedings, trips to holylands, scholarship schemes that are supposed to be classified as private, than reach into their own pockets for the money.

c) There is a problem with your definition of giving. And that brings me back to what I was saying earlier. A lot of people do not understand Giving implies not expecting something in return. And that understanding typically comes from the way it was defined for them during their formative years.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by TeskyMan(m): 2:21pm On Aug 13, 2012
acidtalk: Personally, I will speak for myself.
I learned something from experience and noticed the successful people also make use of, and that's " the power of giving".

I try never for be miserly/stingy and also never extragavant /wasteful. No one comes with a problem and leaving without having at least some of it being solved. Be it financial, moral or emotional.

I have gotten to realize that the more you give the more you get.

The sad part is, people always always and always take you for granted when you give. Also people respect and adore people who make them suffer before rendering any form of assistance to them. They hardly value those who help them without making them go through any form of suffering.

Inshort, blackman likes things the hard way as that's the only way he appreciates it, and as such people only help after putting someone on the burning furnance.

Also don't forget an average black man thinks if he helps you to be successful then who will be there to slave for him and his family.

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In addition to what you said, I believe that 'Whatsoever a man sows, the same he shall reap". If you sow love, you'll reap love. If you sow mercy, you'll reap mercy when the need arises......
The subject matter is what baffles me with respect to the perception of people especially we Nigerians to the phrase, "BEING A GIVER". To the glory of God, I'm a regular giver, in fact people tend to name me "father Christmas", even my wife. I have a reason because I was actually brought up to help people. I've heard about stories of people being burnt when helping but I told God that in as much as I give willingly(without a futuristic expectation), then the Lord God will pay me back, which he has been doing.

Yes, people tend to make you look like a fool when we give them. What surprises me most is that when you do not give to the normal person you've been giving over the years, you might end up being hated. I now begin to wonder why you have to hate me because I don't give you now. I keep asking myself, have you forgotten that I used to give you when i had? I have now come to realise that no matter how urgent the request or complain is, my rule is "DO NOT BE QUICK TO GIVE THE MONEY" except it is associated with life and death. Even if you have the cash in your pocket, make sure you give the person the impression that you have to till the ground before the money comes up. This have been working quite well for me.

Finally, I see it as a thing of joy helping people, most especially the 'WIDOWS' and the "ORPHANS" around me. I made a covenant with God that even if I will render help to this categories of people at the detriment of my family, Oh Lord I will. Beloveth, Help has never forsaken me. The secret is, If you attend to God's need in the areas of helping the Widow's, Orphans & the (truely) less privileges, The Lord said it himself that HELPERS shall never depart from you. I believed it, I tapped into it and since, it has been working for me. I also believe it boils down to love. The Bible says LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. If we can keep the commandment, the world will be a better place to live.

I thank God for giving me the grace to be a cheerful giver.

Cheers!
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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by TeskyMan(m): 2:21pm On Aug 13, 2012
Cheers!
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by kpolli(m): 2:21pm On Aug 13, 2012
Still dunno what this poster is asking undecided
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 13, 2012
Because majority of Nigerians are perhaps the most selfish set of people on earth. The more civil and empathic you are to a Nigerian, the more he takes you for granted and treat you like a 'mugu'.

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by djojo(m): 2:22pm On Aug 13, 2012
why not do good and get the reward from God, even if u never get good in return from those u did it for.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by lolaluv1(f): 2:23pm On Aug 13, 2012
I remember the time I went to buy airtime outside the hostel and saw the airtime salesboy shivering in the Northern harmattan cold.
I went back to the hostel to get my brother's expensive leather jacket that was with me and I lent it to him. I didn't know his name, we weren't friends, but I did it out of human pity for a guy out in the cold in a threadbare shirt. He was supposed to return it before closing. The guy ran off with the jacket and as it turns out, it was his last day at the place.
Though it wasn't financial help but that was what I had to give and I did it whole-heartedly. I have been stabbed a few times for my good deeds. Would you blame me for now being more sceptical?

Now I still help, but I know it's not the way it used to be! But I pray to go back to the original me! Cos it's good to give!
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 2:25pm On Aug 13, 2012
lola.luv:
I remember the time I went to buy airtime outside the hostel and saw the airtime salesboy shivering in the Northern harmattan cold.
I went back to the hostel to get my brother's expensive leather jacket that was with me and I lent it to him. I didn't know his name, we weren't friends, but I did it out of human pity for a guy out in the cold in a threadbare shirt. He was supposed to return it before closing. The guy ran off with the jacket and as it turns out, it was his last day at the place.
Though it wasn't financial help but that was what I had to give and I did it whole-heartedly. I have been stabbed a few times for my good deeds. Would you blame me for now being more sceptical?

Now I still help, but I know it's not the way it used to be! But I pray to go back to the original me! Cos it's good to give!

Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Truckpusher(m): 2:27pm On Aug 13, 2012
BECOS THEY KEEP COMING BACK AND WHEN YOU TELL THEM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THIS TIME AROUND THEY THINK YOU ARE LYING ....CONTINUE TO GIVE TO THOSE THAT HAS ALREADY CAUGHT MUGU AS FOR NEW CUSTOMERS NO WAY ,DON'T EVEN START IT ELSE THEY WILL BRING MORE CUSTOMERS grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by lolaluv1(f): 2:32pm On Aug 13, 2012
@kobojunkie
You're laughing at me, ba? sad
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Revolva(m): 2:34pm On Aug 13, 2012
SlyIg: People rarely give out arms on d road side which happens to be d most popular way d needy takes to. Many help d poor in d church cos of how dangerous our society is now. Many needys are not truly in need. Many of them are lazy. Eg. I saw a healthy young girl wit two legs and hands wit a child on her back using small basin in begging on d road. On that same road were small children selling snacks and pure water. Can you give out help to Such?

Bro see if e better for every man ajibole no go dey if e better for every man bambiala(begger) no go dey o- oriste femi song 'better' go google it and read the lyics deep song
See the lady with basin with kid may have less hope after turnin left right up down and nobody to assist that's the worst state of a human being life and you want her to do ashawo with her kid in a dangerous brotel? Don't compare her and say you saw kids selling pure water and snacks ,do you ave a second tought if she has done small biz and did not work out and maybe nobody to help her start sometin- ave seen babes hussle (ashi) to da top and open fashion store and beer palour- see our nation is a doomed place to grow up as a young person you are left on your own no grants for education and if your parents aint bouyant to send you to school- na you sabi oo, will you be happy to see your self in that situation even the graduates also - if you aint connected no work for you, not even a small loan capital to start sometin - oooo shame to a nation like ours failed-since 1960 they say the youth are the future of tommorrow - till date na so we dey hear am -when??
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by chucky234(m): 2:35pm On Aug 13, 2012
kpolli: Still dunno what this poster is asking undecided
Walk into the street,look for the nearest welder workshop then borrow a goggle from them so you can see what the OP wrote clearly.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 2:36pm On Aug 13, 2012
naijababe: Because majority of Nigerians are perhaps the most selfish set of people on earth. The more civil and empathic you are to a Nigerian, the more he takes you for granted and treat you like a 'mugu'.


This clearly shows how our society is one that takes something that could work to our benefit and turn it on it's head. Kind of like what we did to democracy, that some now don't even think democracy works as a result. There is no shiny solution that is going to cure the Nigerian society of the many ills. What needs to happen is we all go back to tackling the problems at the root, and again, this is why I believe charity, and healthy culture of giving, starts from within the home. Add the churches.mosques, etc, to the equation.
Re: Why Do We Refuse To Help People Financially? by Kobojunkie: 2:37pm On Aug 13, 2012
lola.luv:
@kobojunkie
You're laughing at me, ba? sad

You took your brother's best jacket, gave it to a stranger and expected it back. Of course I will laugh. grin grin grin grin grin

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