Have u ever noticed that if there is bloody fight between 2 pple, is either the 2 are Muslim, or one of them is a Muslim? if there is any group fight, muslims are more likely to form the majority of the miscreants; if there is quick judgement passage(jungle justice) on any culprit, it would be the muslims dat will do that first; if there is any Cabal formed like a family circle in any govt organisation/institution, the muslims will form the major part to terrorise any other person against their religion; if there is any sharing of govt money meant 4 developmental projects, the muslims will form major part in it; if there is any rumour against the muslim from the other religion, even without finding out the truth, the muslims will come with full rage to fight the cause of God(They cant control their temperament,IMAGINE!); If there is any minor/major group gathered for suicide bombing/masses destruction purpose(all over the world), muslims are the leaders in that aspect (Alqelda & Boko Aram); if there any group who realy think & blived they can fight 4 God in this mercy & grace age, its the muslims; if there any group who thinks they are the custodians of knowledge about everytin in the world, they are.

pls can someone tell me, are these what the Muslim religion is all about? who among them can stand GOD's vengeance? if not by God's mercy & special grace, who shud be living on this sinful planet earth by now? pls support ur comments with facts & if posible, figures too

NOTE: THIS IS NOT TO BRING THE MUSLIM RELIGION DOWN OR RAISE ANY RELIGION UP, BUT JUST A RESEARCH ON HOW WE HANDLE/MANAGE OUR PLACE/PRIVILEDGE AS SERVANTS/CHILDREN/MESSENGERS OF GOD ALMIGHTY

Epic fail the believers of the old testament were the most violent religionists ever.

The OP: Epic fail the believers of the old testament were the most violent religionists ever.

By their fruits, the Bible says we shall know them...they are not fighting for or defenders of God, rather, they are doing their wishies or what they think is right( not what is right), hnmm...may God forgive & hav mercy on all

they claimed that God is their father, yet, there hands are full of bloodshed...their posterity will face the wrath if they refuse to repent

How disappointing.....
the OP's judgement of the most violent people in the world was based on his own self inclination....
First....
the topic was misleading
....one would think the RESEARCH was formal ....
... at first i thought a poll was conducted.......
.....not knowing that they were from the Poster's own jaundiced view........
second....
it hurts me that there are not very many logical, reasonable and scientific people...
people who will provide evidences and not judge based on prejudice)

plz Mr OP.....compare my analysis of ur post with ur above findings....

k00lxpert: Have u ever noticed that if there is bloody fight between 2 pple, is either the 2 are Muslim, or one of them is a Muslim?

.....

This of course is not true.......
it sure depends on ur locality......if u live in a muslim-major area, then most fight are likely to be between muslims.......
.....i remember a popular song by a nigerian artist that says ....."WARRI NO DEY CARRY LAST".......
.....and i also remember a friend of mine ones sharply said "WHAT IF ALL THE CONTESTANTS ARE WARRI"?.....
......u will find below statistics( from wikipedia ) related to your "RESEARCH" .e.g countries with most homicide cases,manslaughter etc(at least it was a "bloody fight" before it turned homicide or manslaughter), most lives taken in a religious war etc.....
......Hunduras has the highest rate of murder....
.......it has 86%of its population as xtians......
......so if cases of "he KILLED me, no he KILLED me first" ensue between two persons....then we are 86% sure that they both are xtians......
......El salvador is next to hunduras in homicide rate.........96% of its population are xtians.........
......do u see bahrain in any of those list at all?..............yes!!!!!!!!
.......it's an islamic nation...........
.......it is among the countries with the least murder rate.....
.......i also see saudi arabia
.......and few other islamic nations......oman, qatar, tunisia etc......

k00lxpert: if there is any group fight, muslims are more likely to form the majority of the miscreants;

in eastern nigeria too?
pardon me.....
there are no miscreants in the east..

k00lxpert: if there is quick judgement passage(jungle justice) on any culprit, it would be the muslims dat will do that first; if there is any Cabal formed like a family circle in any govt organisation/institution, the muslims will form the major part to terrorise any other person against their religion; if there is any sharing of govt money meant 4 developmental projects, the muslims will form major part in it; if there is any rumour against the muslim from the other religion, even without finding out the truth, the muslims will come with full rage to fight the cause of God(They cant control their temperament,IMAGINE!); If there is any minor/major group gathered for suicide bombing/masses destruction purpose(all over the world), muslims are the leaders in that aspect (Alqelda & Boko Aram); if there any group who realy think & blived they can fight 4 God in this mercy & grace age, its the muslims; if there any group who thinks they are the custodians of knowledge about everytin in the world, they are.

..........A MOST JAUNDICED VIEW

mr OP..if u enter "christian miscreants/cabals/corrupt leaders/terrorists/rumour mongers" into GOOGLE, which one of these do u get as ur result...
(a) "0 match found"
(b) showing results for "muslim miscreants/cabals/corrupt leaders/terrorists/rumour mongers"
(c) did you mean "muslim miscreants/cabals/corrupt leaders/terrorists/rumour mongers"

............

k00lxpert: pls support ur comments with facts & if posible, figures too

with facts and figures?
.....where are urs........

.......and all these countries are islamic
........YEAH, according to mr OP

.......and these countries are islamic too?.....
....may be the statistic was wrong!!!!!!!

......i swear i could not find a single islamic state in this list.......

where is the research?

Delafruita: where is the research?

are u saying wikipedia just went ahead to post those findings without any research?
.......and now wikipedia is wrong....
......."because it didnt include most muslim countries in the list of countries by murder rate".......

olasesi:
.......and now wikipedia is wrong....
......."because it didnt include most muslim countries in the list of countries by murder rate".......

........."and because it also says bahrain (an islamic nation) has 0.6 homicide rate"

olasesi: ......i swear i could not find a single islamic state in this list.......

Which of those countries in the list you show have a reliable crime record system?

You cant make an argument with what is not known mate!


wait! i think you can, look at religion hahahahhahaa

olasesi:
are u saying wikipedia just went ahead to post those findings without any research?
.......and now wikipedia is wrong....
......."because it didnt include most muslim countries in the list of countries by murder rate".......

LOL.. can you cite wikipedia as a reference in a science research?

Area_boy:

Which of those countries in the list you show have a reliable crime record system?

naaaaaa
u shouldnt be asking this
.......u should be showing me........
show us that syria, mali,united state, china has no reliable crime record system.......

........plz tell us the country whose record system is not reliable........

Area_boy:

LOL.. can you cite wikipedia as a reference in a science research?

SHOCKING!!!!!!!!
.......u should read a book on TECHNICAL REPORT WRITTING...........
not only can journals, books and dissertation/thesis be referenced,
.......electronic materials like emails and website can too!!!!!!!

one fact is sure, they might not be in the crime/homicide list online yet, let me tell u, if an average muislim leader/bliver doesnt have any genuine charges against any person(be it muslim or christian), they will make sure they find a away of cutting their hands or legs ( what a wicked way of passing judgement). muslims dont bliv in forgiving pple( i can boldly tell u dis). ok, can some one tell me, why do dos islamic sect, boko aram decided to embark on a continuous suicide bombing activity(with a focus on innocent pple, e.g. christians) with a promise of reward from their 'god' rather than engaging in positive dialogue wit FG? Let me assure u guys, what u cant create, u dont 'think' of killing or condemning or rendering useless; it is inhuman, it is unbiblical, it is unethical, it is against science, it is against nature, it is unjustifiable, it is unforgiving, etc to endanger or take the lives of fellow humans,(no matter how big or small the crime being alleged at him/her) as followers/servants of God.
can someone tell me: 1. who created suicide bombing? 2. can someone explain what is in Quran chapter 9 verse 29 which says;(''Fight against those who believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.''( who was the person speaking in that verse? who was he/she refering to and the action to be taken in that verse is against who? pls can the muslims in the house explain these citations from their Holy book?(pls dont comment what u dont know). 3. is it by force that other religion must succumb to islam as claimed in the Quran 9 vs 29? 4. pls what is is the reward for 'killing' in islam? pls explain. i know my fellow islamic brodas are scholars, but dis is undastanding & divine wisdom, pls dont conclude based on mere human reasoning. ''IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, THE WORD WAS WITH GOD & GOD WAS THE WORK''... ONLY WISE MEN CAN EXPLAIN THIS CLAUSE.

I have to say that while ISLAM can be violent, the most violent nation on earth is actually the US of A.

olasesi:
are u saying wikipedia just went ahead to post those findings without any research?
.......and now wikipedia is wrong....
......."because it didnt include most muslim countries in the list of countries by murder rate".......

so wiki-wiki is your source.go ans sleep

olasesi:

SHOCKING!!!!!!!!
.......u should read a book on TECHNICAL REPORT WRITTING...........
not only can journals, books and dissertation/thesis be referenced,
.......electronic materials like emails and website can too!!!!!!!

That's not the point my friend!!!

wikipedia is a public forum and bound to modification by anyone and hence not a reliable source. Ask your professor in school and he'll tell u the same thing.

How many science Jornals or research papers or even books have you seen with a wikipedia reference?
Go school you no go gree! sigh

you wana make a fool of yourself? ok, Now take that referencing tool and reference any (ANY) topic from wikipedia then post your result here let me finish you

frosbel: I have to say that while ISLAM can be violent, the most violent nation on earth is actually the US of A.

NOW YOU TALKING!!!

k00lxpert: if an average muislim leader/bliver doesnt have any genuine charges against any person(be it muslim or christian), they will make sure they find a away of cutting their hands or legs ( what a wicked way of passing judgement)..

fallacy of hasty generalization........
sorry, did u mean ALL muslims?

k00lxpert: . muslims dont bliv in forgiving pple( i can boldly tell u dis.

.......FALSEHOOD at its BEST

k00lxpert: ok, can some one tell me, why do dos islamic sect, boko aram decided to embark on a continuous suicide bombing activity(with a focus on innocent pple, e.g. christians) with a promise of reward from their 'god' rather than engaging in positive dialogue wit FG? Let me assure u guys, what u cant create, u dont 'think' of killing or condemning or rendering useless; it is inhuman, it is unbiblical, it is unethical, it is against science, it is against nature, it is unjustifiable, it is unforgiving, etc to endanger or take the lives of fellow humans,(no matter how big or small the crime being alleged at him/her) as followers/servants of God.

.......And certainly if BOKO HARAM had been part of islam, there would not have been many of us still left behind .....
.......the whole muslim population would have been part of a similar group with a similar aim........
.......infact, the whole NON muslim population would have been done away with a long time ago
.......i would not av grown up to know of any group of people called xtians...

.....and reasonable people know that u cant judge a group of people from the behaviour of a few.....
.......but how many are reasonable nowadays?


...........would it be correct to say something similar? "XTIANS are bad because REVEREND KING is BAD"

k00lxpert: can someone tell me: 1. who created suicide bombing?

.....have u heard of the KAMIKAZE?...
.....and the crusaders?.....
.......among the early suicide acts were those of SAMSON's.......where he killed himself to cause the death of more people...(i guess u know where it is in the bible)......

i feel reluctant to post pages from wikipedia because i fear that i may be HEAVILY criticized by fellow NLanders......

k00lxpert: 2. can someone explain what is in Quran chapter 9 verse 29 which says;(''Fight against those who believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.''( who was the person speaking in that verse? who was he/she refering to and the action to be taken in that verse is against who? pls can the muslims in the house explain these citations from their Holy book?(pls dont comment what u dont know). 3. is it by force that other religion must succumb to islam as claimed in the Quran 9 vs 29?

....

In an islamic state, only muslims can make up the army..........even though security is given to all(muslims and non muslims)
.......muslims compulsorily give out 2.5% of their annual earnings as zakat, for the development of the islamic state.....
.....a qouta of non muslims contribution for the development of the state is the jizya...
this tax is upon all able-bodied men(non muslims) of military age and might and affording power....

In return, non-Muslim will be permitted to practise their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to the Muslim state's protection from outside aggression, and to be exempted from military service and the zakat taxes obligatory upon Muslim citizens

.......and to the above verses....
to begin with, the xtians' double standard needs to be exposed. why do u think this fight can only mean physical..
fighting someone can be done with the tongue,u can preach the truth to them until they repent off their ways, u can boycott them,u can withdraw all the benefits they get from the jizya .....
....the pen can as well come to work etc......

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword

xtians will intepret the sword in the above sentence to be a metaphorical one referring to the tongue i.e xtians will spread the truth and propagate the words of God against the satan...........acceptable
but why dont xtians have this interpretation open to the quran...why should they always assume the physical fight is meant....

So it is up to u Christians, if u want to argue honestly, or if u want to argue deceptively using double standards in interpretation....
......and u should also know that the QURAN is not ashame to use the word "kill".....it would certainly have used it if it had meant it....

.....a better analysis of the above verses........
....after an unbiased reading, one should agree with the following

(1)who should be fought with?...........(ans) non muslims
(2)why should they be fought?............(ans) because they refused to pay the jizya
(3)why are the muslims not to be fought?.....(ans)they already paid their zakat, so they need not be fought for jizya .

........and to ur questions .....
Allah was speaking in the above verses thru the mouth of prophet muhammed.......
....and the above verses do not indicate that all religions must succumb to islam.......

........Once more i ask, what do people have problems with? , islam or its rules....
.......public fund embezzlement and MASSIVE TAX EVASION attract death penalty in china.....but not many people have problems with this....
........ u should please understand that there are no absolute laws......
.......laws are only to be judged in the context of those being governed by those laws......
........in Nigeria, people involved in homosexual acts attract to themselves a jail term of 14 years. But in the USA,no such law exists......
........would u then say that the nigerian law is cruel to homosexuals or the USA is too lenient to them........
........Nigerians are more cultural and would very much appreciate that few of their cultural values be preserved....that's why most nigerians dont have problem with its rule on homosexuals.....
........Americans are less cultural, and considering the policy of such country(i.e freedom), such law will be seen as cruel....
.......some countries consider "marital rape" as an offence, while some dont e.g Nigeria...........so i ask, which of these laws is right.
....ALL and NONE
.....the nigerian law is right in nigeria
......the USA law is right in the USA....
.......there are no absolute laws....
.....no wonder there are no equal judgement for a crime in all countries of the world......

........so u see, islam can not be wrong because of its policy on non-muslims.........


....... at least they get something in return for their JIZYA (indeed a very fair return. SEE THEM AGAIN ABOVE).......and muslims also pay theirs in form of zakat......

k00lxpert: pls what is is the reward for 'killing' in islam? pls explain.

one get killed in return.....
......or one pays "the blood money" on the request of the family of the slain......or even pardoned (of course also on the request of the slain's family)

Delafruita:
so wiki-wiki is your source.go ans sleep

At least it's still considered the most reliable by many.......
....if i had posted from a site like islam.com.....some would be sure to have come up with words like "it was bias"......
........and if it had been from a xtian site too, most xtians would be sure to have come up with a similar thing.....

.......so tell me the source u wished i had used........
.......we should learn to argue with an open mind and be very ready to drop our claims when we become convinced......
......wikipedia cannot be wrong because it doesnt speak our mind.......
........u should present a similar post from your own source and convince us that it is more reliable......
.......not condemn the sources of others as if u had a better source to post from........
........most of the contents of wiki are referenced, some its statistics are from the CIA, government agencies etc ....these agencies dont claim to be the most reliable sources of data but at least they are the best we can get......better than the biased statistics and datas u have in your head .......
........u usually see the reference list at the bottom of wiki page........
........but if u still think it's not a good source.......
show us one SINGLE statement that u KNOW is wrong in wikipedia.........just ONE SINGLE statement
......and come up with your own source

" and verily man is unsatiable"
........all sources will remain wrong as long as they dont say what he(man) wants to hear.....

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Muhammad's Sex LifeTheReligionofPeace.com
Guide to Understanding Islam


What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...
The Sex Life of the Prophet



Question:
Was Islam's "perfect man" sexually restrained?


Summary Answer:
Muhammad had sex with just about anyone he pleased, thanks to Allah's
extraordinary interest in his personal sex life, as immortalized in the
Qur'an.
Although the Qur'an didn't appear to have enough space for topics like
universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes insist are there,
but aren't), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was entitled to is
detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes in
reference to specific persons (ie. Zaynab and Mary).
Muhammad was married to thirteen women, including eleven at one time. He
relegated them to either consecutive days or (according to some accounts)
all in one night. He married a 9-year-old girl and even his adopted son's
wife. On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave girls and
concubines with whom he had sex - sometimes on the very days in which they
had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army.
So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the world's most sexually
restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually indulgent
characters in history.



The Qur'an:
Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned
Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him.
Interestingly they have become part of the the eternal, infallible word of
the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have
no possible relevance.
Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave
her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the
believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have
accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed."
No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at
memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why
it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah
just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his
daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local
customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her
husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the
eternal word of God...?
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives
whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand
possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war,
and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your
paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the
daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman
if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her--
specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have
ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands
possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another
special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually
unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this
"revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the
community over Muhammad's hedonism.
Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may
take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had
separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so
that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should
be pleased" This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad's wives
were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary
the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever
wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as
revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion
Muslims.
Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made
lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?..." Another remarkable
verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad's wives
were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave
girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability
of his slaves was against Allah's will for him!
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those
(captives) whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad
and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in
battle.



From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was
only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in
the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but
Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This
is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their
followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house
(something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and
handle her.

Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could
sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she
could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his
followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to handle a
child.

Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his
clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to
the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he
found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's
handling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an'
with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations
with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also
said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard
to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round,
during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas,
'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "

Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your
wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context
of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his
sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses.
(It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).

Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad
orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so
that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under
the same roof together.

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as
booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to
be God's gift to him.

Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the
Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving
Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the
Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured
women for himself.

Tabari IX:139 - "You are a self-respecting girl, but the prophet is a
womanizer." Words spoken by the disappointed parents of a girl who had
'offered' herself to Muhammad (he accepted).


Additional Notes:

Muhammad's sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are
aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet's consummation
of his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine years of age. The thought
of a 52-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely
unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton
rather than a holy man. Critics even allege that Muhammad was a
pedophile.

Some Muslims respond by denying the hadith itself, which is a mistake.
The accounts of Muhammad sleeping with a 9-year-old are no less reliable
than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been
an accepted part of tradition and did not become controversial until
social mores began to change with the modern age.

The charge of pedophilia may or may not be true, depending on how it is
defined. Technically, Muhammad did have a sexual relationship with a
child, but Aisha was also the youngest of his twelve wives. Zaynab was in
her 30's when she attracted the unquenchable lust of the prophet. We
don't know the age of Muhammad's sex slaves. They may or may not have
been as young as Aisha, but there is no point in speculating.

Prior to the medical advances of the last century, marriage occurred at a
much younger age across all societies. When life expectancy was in the
mid 20's (or lower), it made no sense to wait until 19 to start having
children. Otherwise, one ran the risk of not being around to raise them.
In short, childhood as we know it was abbreviated by the reality of the
times.

Another strong piece of evidence against Muhammad being a pedophile is
that, according to the same Hadith, he waited from the time Aisha was six
(when the marriage ceremony took place) until she turned nine to
consummate the relationship. Although the text doesn't say why, in all
probability it was because he was waiting for her to begin menstrual
cycles - thus entering into "womanhood." It is unlikely that a pedophile
would be concerned about this.

On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that
clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of
puberty. Qur'an (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them being that
a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the
woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to "those too who have
not had their courses," meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate.
(In our opinion, this would have been a great time for Allah to have said
something else instead like, "a real man is one who marries an actual,
grown woman"... but that's just us).

Thanks to Muhammad's extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit
approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the
Islamic tradition. For many centuries, Muslim armies would purge
Christian and Hindu peasant villages of their menfolk and send the women
and children to harems and the thriving child sex slave markets deep in
the Islamic world.

When it comes to child marriage, contemporary clerics warn fellow Muslims
against succumbing to the disapproval of the Christian West: "It behooves
those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and
not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not
permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive
right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing
marriage.”

The Ayatollah Khomeini, who married a 12-year-old girl, even gave his
consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against
full penetration until the baby is a few years older). In April, 2010, a
13-year-old Yemeni girl died from injuries suffered to her womb during
"intercourse".

Some clerics show relative mercy on underage girls by advocating a process
known as "thighing" (also known as child molestation in the West).
According to a recent fatwa (number 23672), an imam answers this question:
"My parents married me to a young girl who hasn't yet reached puberty. How
can I enjoy her sexually?" by telling the 'man' that he may "hug her, kiss
her, and ejaculate between her legs."

Muhammad's penchant for girls so much younger than him was such that at
least two of his father-in-laws (Abu Bakr and Omar, the first two Caliphs)
were actually younger than him as well. This disappointing pattern is
very much at odds with the sort of sexual discipline that one might expect
of a true "prophet of God."

Muhammad's pursuit of Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son is almost as
tough for Muslims to explain. This is because it not only raises a
similar question of moral character, but also casts suspicion on whether
his so-called prophecies were really divine revelation or dictates of
personal convenience. According to one biographer, even Aisha appears to
be somewhat doubtful of Muhammad's claim that Allah commanded him to marry
Zaynab, wryly remarking, "Truly Allah seems to be very quick in fulfilling
your prayers."

So controversial was Muhammad's desire to marry his adopted son's wife
that he had to justify it with a stern pronouncement from Allah on the
very institution of adoption, which has had tragic consequences to this
day. Verses 33:4-5 are widely interpreted to imply that Islam is against
adoption, meaning that an untold number of children in the Islamic world
have been needlessly orphaned - all because Muhammad's lustful desires for
a married woman went beyond even what the other six wives that he
possessed at the time and a multitude of slaves could satisfy.

Some Muslims deny that Muhammad was married to more than four women at a
time, merely on the basis that the Qur'an only gives permission for
marrying four. Unfortunately, Muslims historians disagree. Only one of
Muhammad's last eleven wives died before him (Zaynab bint Khuzayma). The
rest outlived him by many years.

Muhammad forbade his ten widows from remarrying, even making sure that
this "divine" order was forever preserved in the eternal word of Allah -
Qur'an (33:53). To add insult to injury, they were all summarily
disinherited from Muhammad's estate by his successor (courtesy of another
divine order "given" to Abu Bakr from Allah).

In summary, Islam's holiest texts portray Muhammad not as a perfect man,
but as a sexual hedonist. Not only did he become fat from indulging in
food, but his pursuit of sex was no less gluttonous. On top of it all, he
used personal "revelations" from Allah to justify his debauchery to the
gullible masses which, to this day, continue to be venerated and memorized
as if they are the holiest of utterances.



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olasesi:





(1)who should be fought with?...........(ans) non muslims
(2)why should they be fought?............(ans) because they refused to pay the jizya
(3)why are the muslims not to be fought?.....(ans)they already paid their zakat, so they need not be fought for jizya .

........and to ur questions .....
Allah was speaking in the above verses thru the mouth of prophet muhammed.......

in Math. 10:34, it rightly said, Do not suppose that i have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. vs. 35, For i hav come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter in-law against her mother in-law, vs. 36, A man's enemies will be the members of his own household; the meaning was explain in the proceeding verse, anybody who loves his father or mother more than me(Jesus) is not worthy of me(Jesus); etc. u see, Christ said so many things in parables, but u muslims dont do is that personal study, but rather relent on what ur leaders told u in other to blastphem the Christian religion. this is sad though. also note that, the verse above in Quran chapter 9 vs 29, is questionable...i dont agree wit ur mere or spiritual meanings or social meanings as u claimed. if truely Allah is speaking, then The God i knw is not a God of confusion; He is pure, great & forever holy. so, He may not hav mentioned Christians in the verse...its realy questionable my broda...
The fact still remains that,Either the Quran, Muhammed or over sabi permit me to use that word, hav made the muslims to be violent, in action & in reaction...i can bet u, if there were no govt, they would hav loved to rule over every one by force.did u still remember Osama Bin-Lahdin? He claimed he was fighting for God(for Islam) so that, the enemies of Islam will all not hav rest this he did, by killing & destroying lots of properties & innocent pple. is dis not also questionable? look at Sadam Hussein, Abdutalab, etc & co. whose messengers are they? who nurtured them? whats their mission? whats their ultimate gain? see, u can never run away from the truth...anybody who hides under the umbrella of religion to terorise Nigerians or the world at large will be captured & punished by God Himself & not for me or any other person to Judge. Hav a Nice day

olasesi:





(1)who should be fought with?...........(ans) non muslims
(2)why should they be fought?............(ans) because they refused to pay the jizya
(3)why are the muslims not to be fought?.....(ans)they already paid their zakat, so they need not be fought for jizya .

........and to ur questions .....
Allah was speaking in the above verses thru the mouth of prophet muhammed.......

in Math. 10:34, it rightly said, Do not suppose that i have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. vs. 35, For i hav come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter in-law against her mother in-law, vs. 36, A man's enemies will be the members of his own household; the meaning was explain in the proceeding verse, anybody who loves his father or mother more than me(Jesus) is not worthy of me(Jesus); etc. u see, Christ said so many things in parables, but u muslims dont do is that personal study, but rather relent on what ur leaders told u in other to blastphem the Christian religion. this is sad though. also note that, the verse above in Quran chapter 9 vs 29, is questionable...i dont agree wit ur mere or spiritual meanings or social meanings as u claimed. if truely Allah is speaking, then The God i knw is not a God of confusion; He is pure, great & forever holy. so, He may not hav mentioned Christians in the verse...its realy questionable my broda...
The fact still remains that,Either the Quran, Muhammed or over sabi permit me to use that word, hav made the muslims to be violent, in action & in reaction...i can bet u, if there were no govt, they would hav loved to rule over every one by force.did u still remember Osama Bin-Lahdin? He claimed he was fighting for God(for Islam) so that, the enemies of Islam will all not hav rest this he did, by killing & destroying lots of properties & innocent pple. is dis not also questionable? look at Sadam Hussein, Abdutalab, etc & co. whose messengers are they? who nurtured them? whats their mission? whats their ultimate gain? see, u can never run away from the truth...anybody who hides under the umbrella of religion to terorise Nigerians or the world at large will be captured & punished by God Himself & not for me or any other person to Judge. May God save our soul.

Muslims - Boko haram, hmmmm please ohhhhhhhhh we need peace in Nigerai enof Bloodshed

God is a God of war but at the time, he does not need any assistance from any homosapien(human being)...He alone can defend, fight and settle disputes...so stop the violence...dont use the name of God to kill or cause religious war in the society...peace

K00lxpert, i want to make a lil correction on ur nice post because people most times tend to mix these names, GOD and allah(god). The violent behaviour amongst the muslims is as a result of the orientation by the god they worship who holds JIHAD!

Speroxx: K00lxpert, i want to make a lil correction on ur nice post because people most times tend to mix these names, GOD and allah(god). The violent behaviour amongst the muslims is as a result of the orientation by the god they worship who holds JIHAD!

@speroxx, thanks for the correction jare bro...because i dont serve a jihad god, who asks pple to kill other pple in this 21st century(gone are dos eras my broda) may be they dont know that, God is very angry @ killers. thank goodness for God's redemption through our Lord Jesus Christ who paid all the price...I am free! i dont need to kill for My God b4 i am saved, rather, i need to watch & pray against any evil(boko haram, & their co-hots), & tell them about the 2nd coming of the Son of God(Christ)...its gonna be justice all the way. now is the time of grace & mercy...accept Him now! b4 its too late brethren. peace