I-man:


The problem with her party,the Pakistan People's Party,is that it is a movement owned by her family.Indeed,she declared herself party leader for life.I think she was driven by a certain electra complex due to her relationship with her father to take up his mantle,no matter the cost to her,and lead Pakistan

may i ask what is wrong with that. especially if her family is convinced that they can indeed run the affairs of the country and be ready to pay the ultimate price (if need be).

Benazir Bhutto, like her husband was a corrupt, power hungry criminal out to exploit the election and the Pakistani people for her own gain.

Pakistan is nothing more than a safe haven for Islamic terrorists and did not even exist as a country until recently.

No need to cry for her or the Paki's. Like every other Islamic state, there is no future or hope, just a long downward spiral of violence and the inevitable slide back to the stoneage.

Islamic State = Doom

Carlosein:

may i ask what is wrong with that. especially if her family is convinced that they can indeed run the affairs of the country and be ready to pay the ultimate price (if need be).

A party should not be a private family vehicle to acquire power.

hey Carlosein security is a personal thing.she need not ask the government for increase in security details.she can hire as many as she want.does who fail to prepare have prepared to fail.The Pakistani opposition leader knew very well the risks she ran when she decided to wage a public campaign for the restoration of democracy.so many well trained protective detail are in that country searching for job.if this kind thing happen for naija i for say na money dem no wan spend.

now i am tempted to believe that woman of a desert spirit might have set her death up just to make Musharraf look bad.

the security reports released where quite disturbing!

she practically went out naked

in search of the destroyers Bullet!

We mourn because we have a conscience, not because we have knowledge.

she knew what she was up to, i dare say

MP007: The death of bhutto did not surprised me at all. How in the world do u expect bhutto , a harvard graduate to survive the animosity of the mideast?

She died because of american's foreign policy of "do it our way or the hard way", we are seeing the product of the idea of spreading democracy in the heart of the middle east. you have not seen nothing yet, stay tuned.

let nigeria restrict its relationship with america to business only because I do not see nigeria surviving if we are labelled or if we accept the role of "key-ally" in the war against terror.

let the people in the middle east live their lives and stop telling countries and nations what to do like u own them, protect your own borders and people(air space and water).I bet u , america will soon increase its global military base from 700 to 1000

Since when did Pakistan become part of the Middle East? david was right. You're in way over your head.

viceb:

well she knew her country was a hot spot. i think she has sacrificed herself for the good of her country.

She sacrificed herself, why are we so bothered? a sacrifice i what it is, a sacrifice

This was a news report from Wednesday:A day prior to her death.

POLICE in Pakistan have stopped a 15-year-old boy they say was carrying a bomb made of dynamite and nails from gettnig into a rally by opposition leader Benazir Bhutto.

The boy got past the first of four security checkpoints set up outside the rally in the northwestern city of Peshawar but was caught at the second, said police officer Rahim Shah, according to the Associated Press.

In October, suicide bombers struck a parade celebrating Ms Bhutto's return from exile, killing more than 140 people in the southern city of Karachi.

[url]http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22975025-23109,00.html[/url]

@Lai_Lai, The response you offered me to my post made absolutely no sense at all and I really hate to say this but you need to try find logic and reasoning to guide you in your life more.

Heard the news this morning, quite sad.

peteroby:

hey Carlosein security is a personal thing.she need not ask the government for increase in security details.she can hire as many as she want.does who fail to prepare have prepared to fail.The Pakistani opposition leader knew very well the risks she ran when she decided to wage a public campaign for the restoration of democracy.so many well trained protective detail are in that country searching for job.if this kind thing happen for naija i for say na money them no wan spend.

peteroby, let me get this straight, security is a personal thing right, so you and i should forget the police and hire thugs (say), buy guns and armored vehicles, cctv and other security paraphernalia to protect ourselves

she (BB) requested the government (whose duty it is to protect it's citizens), for security and as a former prime minister (just like any former government official in Nigeria), she is entitled to some more than average security.

now tell me i missed your point entirely

Quote from: lai-lai on Today at 12:20:40 AM
@kobojunkie
if u know the way USA weaves its magic wand, u won't hav a problem wondering how i could point the fingers at USA(though u could it point it out to me that USA was not involved in this case but they are sure capable), USA's actions seen from analytical point tend to prefer chaos and unstability in countries of interest just before they are about to get fully involved, in this case USA knew what was on ground and put their public backing on bhutto, they(USA) knew how unsafe it was in pakistan if she came back and did not urge or recommend average-level security for her talkless of them even providing security for someone they are actually meant to support.they knew she had no chance, its even a surprise she has survived this long. this is just what they calculated, there's bound to be chaos now in pakistan considering the size of her supporters, we'll see USA's reaction sooner or later

What are you saying here? With all due respect, your reasoning is convoluted and lacks any modicum of rational thought. The only way you can justifiably state the US bears some responsibility for her death (which should not be construed as the US playing a covert part) is that the US did not enforce stringent security arrangements for her, trusting Musharaf's government to do that instead.

What magic wand did the US weave that led to the death of Bhutto? The US saw her more as an ally of the West than Musharaf. And how could the US prefer chaos and instability in a region where they had a huge insterest?
Since 1954 to date, Pakistan has received $21b in aid alone from the US. In addition, Pakistan has about 70 nuclear weapons, similar to that of India. Added to this, Pakistan is embroiled in a war of attrition over the Kashmir border with India. The foreign policy of India suggests they have no intention of using theirs, whilst Pakistan have no such policy. There's also the on going war against terrorism that is engulfing the region with the West expected to bear the brunt of it all. And let's not forget the increasing global trade that is thriving in India.

In view of all this concrete and indisputable evidence, can you still harbour the harebrained idea that the "US prefer chaos and instability in countries of interest"?  

America hosted the Talibans in Texas in the reign bush srn,they organise,trained and armed the talibans against the russians,the issue of her(bhuto) supporting the taliban is just a matter of policies initiated by the major  players like america and the rest of the monsters,america have no allies,they go for their interest whether you like it or not,they are super military power,not super philantropist or diplomatic power,especially with this present supremacist regime who thinks they are alexander the great or napoleons of the 21st century,it is in the blood,white man believe in conquest,i wonder when they will think diffrently and see the world as a place of peace not of war.

The multi-trillion arm industry can not exist if they don't intend to cause confusion,it is all about money,technology,employement,contracts,name it,it is an extensive industry that can not operate without war and yet people are still for pepertrators.

Religion is a tool use to cause the confusion,they are not religious,they are just hypocrists,playing with the simple minds.Coporations like  world bank,imf,federal reserves  and the rest of those reptileans bodies are all set up to run and sponsor wars, to keep the money spinning while the masses suffer,an average american who is able to buy a house or car and pay motgage all his life will think he is doing great,living in boundage,while the real players are pushing the money around and deciding the faith of commoners who in most cases blindly follows.

It is all about what is set to be,tradition,that can be changed if the masses stop playing the fool.People have been controlling the new world affairs for over 2000 years,from the romans emperors to the pope,to the templers,down to the present aryans,same ball game of the awares and unawares.

May here soul rest in peace.

I think the woman knew she was going to die eventually. She recieved more than enough warning from them bombers and still continued her rallies. Maybe she wanted to be remembered as a matyr for her country just like her father. she knew she would die. the question was "when". and the "when" is what has happened now.

r_o_b_b_y:

I think the woman knew she was going to die eventually. She recieved more than enough warning from them bombers and still continued her rallies. Maybe she wanted to be remembered as a matyr for her country just like her father. she knew she would die. the question was "when". and the "when" is what has happened now.

I agree with you. She had a death wish. It was bound to happen. She threw caution to the winds. Its as if she wanted to enter the matyr hall of fame by all means. Like I said before, Musharaf now has a free run. I read on yahoo she's just been buried amid widespread rioting.

What a shame they hanged her pops and blew her up.If i where her kid i wouldnt stay in Pakistan for a second more

I found this video recorded during the crises that erupted after she was shot http://www.octoclick.com/video/videodirectlink-33.html

well i think she paid d ultimate price 4 dying 4 d course of democracy in pakistan a woman 4 dat matter.RIP BB

I saw it this morning. Horrible news, very horrible

I saw a post that claimed al-qaeda took responsiblity for the assasination Still trying to find the source?

All I can come up with was the interior minister blaming al-qaeda for the killing


The government was quick to point fingers @ al- qaida but it seems the Pakistani people are not fooled. They are laying it @ the doorstep of the US backed Musharraf led government.

The plot to kill the poor woman started to take shape when she agreed to come out of exile

Guys, wake up from sleep:::: islamic fundamentalists had not been so active when Bhutto was Pm,,, Now they have Killed her ot maybe her Enemies,,,
Stop blaming Musharaf, he did nt kill Bhutto, Stop blaming America, she was nt killed by CIA, stop blaming America for every little crap on the planet.
I remember one woman blaming america and dollars for de scarcity of Tomatoes while i was in school instead of blaming Youths left the village in search of wealth in Lagos, thereby reducing the workforce

As long as America remains meddlesome, they will always be the prime suspect in most clandestine activities. It is not as if there is a lack of antecedents backing that.
The pakistani people are the ones blaming Musharaf while the Government is quick in laying the blame on al-qaida. Al-aqaida to my knowledge has not owned up ( ) , something they are fond of doing. That raises a red flag for me.

Now what makes U absolutely sure that the Pakistani people are wrong and that U are rite?

Okay, i brought this same topic out just when it happened and nobody i mean NOBODY said a word about this, is it me or am i doing anything wrong? my ISP is not logged on as well, on the newmember section no one is even saying hello??

Am really beginning to get frustrated with this site!

debomb:

Okay, i brought this same topic out just when it happened and nobody i mean NOBODY said a word about this, is it me or am i doing anything wrong? my ISP is not logged on as well, on the newmember section no one is even saying hello??

Am really beginning to get frustrated with this site!

maybe people didnt see your post- you put the news in the New Member section instead of the Politics thread.

I'm thinking probably the new member site doesnt get that much traffic- I only checked out that area today because I saw your comment.

ndo. sorry.

What a pity indeed!!
The world just lost the most beautiful politician!

May her pretty soul rest in perfect peace.

Al Qaeda has denied a hand in her death.

These Arabs or is it Asians or whatever are just plain MAD.Bhutto is a world class woman of Political mien.I just wonder what they must have paid that bastard suicide bomber to kill Mrs Bhutto.I love her everything.May her gentle soul rest in PERFECT PEACE OF THE LORDS,Amen.

Benazir Bhutto was a great woman.History would surely remember her as a woman who sacrificed everything for her native land.
One thing is certain,benazir may have been killed but her ideals still lives on.

Thumbs up for Benazir. Power tussle in a country like Pakistan is a game of death. Only the brave plays. She played, although she lost, she was a worthy worrior. Adieu Bravo

otokx:

Al Qaeda has denied a hand in her death.

and this does not surprise me.

there is more to the death of this woman than meets the eye

If Al Queda has denied it then who is it? Does it really matter, another person seeking democracy is cut down maybe it wasn't meant to be for some people