olabowale:

If the New Testament declares that there are 3 gods or godheads, take your pick, and Qur'an says there is no three God, but One God, is this not correction? There are still many parts of the NT that the Qur'an rejects, as it has a different opinion. This is correction. I asked the pundit to define correct or if they wish correction. Davidylan, has become empty barrel and I am losing respect in his veracity. I had hoped that he will be true to form, since he calls himself a Tiger. But its is Tony the Tigre that is showing up, these days.

@olabowale,

In the first place, the New Testament does NOT "declare" that there are 3 gods or godheads! Only illiterates keep forcing that idea into the Bible ESPECIALLY when I have personally corrected you on that drivel! If you are not satisfied and it has become your nightmare that informs your hide-and-seek games in recent times, then please quote the NT verse where it DECLARES that there are "3 gods or godheads".

Second, this thread was opened for a simple enquiry: "WHERE does the Qur'an say so" in reference to babs787's assertion that the Qur'an came to "correct" the Biblical scriptures. Do you have the verse where the Qur'an claims to have come to "correct" the Biblical scriptures, olabowale? Does the Qur'an ever make that claim ANYWHERE in any of the 114 Suras? If you do not have such a verse in your Qur'an, would you please refrain from your adventures of LYING for 'Allah' in order to appear intelligent where you obviously are worsening your emptiness?

Nowehere does the Qur'an purport to have come to "correct" the Biblical scriptures - find me the verse in the Qur'an ANYWHERE and ANYDAY! After a hard search, you will have to come back to the very same thing in my persuasion - that the Qur'an claims to have come to "CONFIRM" the Biblical scriptures which are "WITH THEM" (i.e., "with Jews and Christians"!! If you no longer believe that, we can now move on to the next stage in this thread where I intend to bleach you and you folks a bit further and expose the duplicity of Muhammad's fabrications. Fair enough?

While you're biting your fingernails on that, take a deep breath and go back the previous page where I carefully enunciated the meaning of the simple word "CONFIRM" - the very word that Muslim translators have used so many times in so many verses in the Qur'an! Not one time did anyone of them suggest that the Qur'an ever came to "correct" the Biblical scriptures. When you are ready to be the next sacrificial cow for the FACT that Muslims LIE, LIE and LIE for 'Allah', just let me know - and I shall promptly unmask the facade you guys have been wearing in your Islamic propaganda!

Cheers.

@pilgrim.1


Your denial will not you in any way.

Second, this thread was opened for a simple enquiry: "WHERE does the Qur'an say so" in reference to babs787's assertion that the Qur'an came to "correct" the Biblical scriptures. Do you have the verse where the Qur'an claims to have come to "correct" the Biblical scriptures, olabowale? Does the Qur'an ever make that claim ANYWHERE in any of the 114 Suras? If you do not have such a verse in your Qur'an, would you please refrain from your adventures of LYING for 'Allah' in order to appear intelligent where you obviously are worsening your emptiness?

Nowehere does the Qur'an purport to have come to "correct" the Biblical scriptures - find me the verse in the Qur'an ANYWHERE and ANYDAY! After a hard search, you will have to come back to the very same thing in my persuasion - that the Qur'an claims to have come to "CONFIRM" the Biblical scriptures which are "WITH THEM" (i.e., "with Jews and Christians"!! If you no longer believe that, we can now move on to the next stage in this thread where I intend to bleach you and you folks a bit further and expose the duplicity of Muhammad's fabrications. Fair enough?

You still continue looking for what to say after serving you verses on corruption of early revelation.If the Quran didnt come to correct the early revelation, why was it revealed and if it didnt come to confirm early revelations, why is the Quran having similar account with the bible in some instances? I thought you claimed that Muhammad wasnt an illiterate but you havent served me where you found him to be literate.

@babs787,

babs787:

@pilgrim.1

Your denial will not you in any way.

Please try not to hyperventilate and thereby miss words in your statements. Nobody has complained about any denials from me - because they can't find me LYING for 'Allah' as you do.

babs787:

You still continue looking for what to say after serving you verses on corruption of early revelation.If the Quran didnt come to correct the early revelation, why was it revealed

Lol. . . please read your confused statement again - they only reveal how frantic you have become in lying for 'Allah'.

The one thing I asked for was the verse for your assertion that the Qur'an came to "correct" the Biblical scriptures. Nothing more or less than that. Have you found the verse where the QU'RAN ever said so?

Having failed to provide the verse I asked for, you've jumped from that to asserting that the Qur'an came to "correct" the 'EARLY' revelation. Can you find me where the Qur'an claims to have come to "correct" the 'EARLY' revelations as well?

Muslims believe that 'Allah' claims to have sent down the 'revelations' to the prophets (Qur'an 2 v 136 - "that which the prophets received from their Lord". Where did he also claim to have sent the Qur'an to "correct" the revelations that he claimed to have sent down? Just where is that verse, babs787?

And since your problem now is the "early" revelations, it would then mean that your new heebie-jeebies are not with the Bible itself, but with some "early" revelation which you can no longer find. When you find the "early" revelation, then try to "correct" them. Hehe. . . lying for 'Allah' is definitely going to keep you busy confusing yourself.

babs787:

and if it didnt come to confirm early revelations, why is the Quran having similar account with the bible in some instances?

HAHAHA! My dear babs787. . look again at what you stated!

You have only once again discredited all your arguments here by acknowledging that the Qur'an came to CONFIRM the Biblical scriptures. You are shifting grounds so quickly and only finding yourself validating my statements while at the same time rubbishing your bloviates. Well done!

Meanwhile, have you found WHERE the Qur'an claims that it came to "correct" the Biblical scriptures? Lol. . . this is page 3 in this thread, and you are still sweating to find the verse! Olabowale thought he could help, but not even he could find the verse where 'Allah' ever spoke of the Qur'an coming to "correct" the Biblical scriptures. NOT ONE VERSE in the Qur'an said so!

babs787:

I thought you claimed that Muhammad wasnt an illiterate but you havent served me where you found him to be literate.

Hehe. . . is that the best you can do to deflect this thread?

Sorry babs787. . . this thread is not about Muhammad's illiteracy - so you can save the game of deflection and focus on the present topic.

Once again, your assertion was that the Qur'an came to "correct" the Biblical scriptures. And my simple request was for you to show me where the Qur'an said so! As far as we know, the Qur'an said it came to CONFIRM the Biblical scriptures which have been with Jews and Christians even right from Muhammad's day - and not a single verse in the Qur'an remotely hints that it came to "correct" them!

~ If the Qur'an claims to have come to "correct" them, where did it say so, babs787?

Now, if you don't mind, you could simply offer that verse and answer the question - "With relevant nonsense from the Quran", according to mrpataki!

When I requested that the PUNDITS should define for us what is correction, I heard a lot of horrible commentaries. I am very busy and Allah has restrained me from truly ugly statements that I would have desired to answer many on this board.

Encouraging the Children of Israel to embrace Islam (From Surah Baqarah: If this is not correction, then tell me what it is, please)

Allah commanded the Children of Israel to embrace Islam and to follow Muhammad . He also reminded them with the example of their father Israel, Allah's Prophet Ya`qub, as if saying, "O children of the pious, righteous servant of Allah who obeyed Allah! Be like your father, following the truth.'' This statement is similar to one's saying, "O you son of that generous man! Do this or that'' or, "O son of the brave man, engage the strong fighters,'' or "O son of the scholar, seek the knowledge,'' and so forth. Similarly, Allah said,

[ذُرِّيَّةَ مَنْ حَمَلْنَا مَعَ نُوحٍ إِنَّهُ كَانَ عَبْدًا شَكُورًا ]

(O offspring of those whom We carried (in the ship) with Nuh (Noah)! Verily, he was a grateful servant) (17:3 Surah Isra)

The Prohibition of hiding the Truth and distorting It with Falsehood (Is this not correction, also from Surah Baqarah?)

Allah forbade the Jews from intentionally distorting the truth with falsehood and from hiding the truth and spreading falsehood,

[وَلاَ تَلْبِسُواْ الْحَقَّ بِالْبَـطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُواْ الْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ ]

(And mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth while you know (the truth)).
So Allah forbade them from two things; He ordered them to make the truth known, as well as explaining it. Ad-Dahhak said that Ibn `Abbas mentioned the Ayah,

[وَلاَ تَلْبِسُواْ الْحَقَّ بِالْبَـطِلِ]

(And mix not truth with falsehood) and said; "Do not mix the truth with falsehood and the facts with lies.'' Qatadah said that,

[وَلاَ تَلْبِسُواْ الْحَقَّ بِالْبَـطِلِ]

(And mix not truth with falsehood) means, "Do not mix Judaism and Christianity (both are lies) with Islam,

[وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ]

(while you know (the truth).) that the religion of Allah is Islam, and that Judaism and Christianity are innovations that did not come from Allah.'' It was reported that Al-Hasan Al-Basri said similarly.
Also, Muhammad bin Ishaq narrated that Ibn `Abbas said that,

[وَتَكْتُمُواْ الْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ]

(nor conceal the truth while you know (the truth).) means, "Do not hide the knowledge that you have of My Messenger and what he was sent with. His description, which you know about, can be found written in the Books that you have.'' (How ever remote. He is in there of any truth that does remain)
It is possible that it means, ", although you know the tremendous harm that this evil will cause people, misguiding them and leading them to the Fire, because they will follow the falsehood that you mixed with the truth in your claims.''

[وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلوةَ وَآتُواْ الزَّكَوةَ وَارْكَعُواْ مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ ]

(And perform As-Salat and give Zakah, and bow down along with Ar-Raki`in.)
Muqatil said, "Allah's statement to the People of the Book,

[وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلَوةَ]

(And perform As-Salah) commands them to perform the prayer behind the Prophet ,

[وَآتَوُاْ الزَّكَوةَ]

(and give Zakah) commands them to pay the Zakah to the Prophet , and

[وَارْكَعُواْ مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ]

(and bow down along with Ar-Raki`in) commands them to bow down with those who bow down among the Ummah of Muhammad . Allah therefore commands the People of the Book to be with, and among the Ummah of Muhammad .'' In addition, Allah's statement,

[وَارْكَعُواْ مَعَ الرَّاكِعِينَ]

(And bow down along with Ar-Raki`in) means, "And be among the believers performing the best deeds they perform, such as, and foremost, the prayer.'' Many scholars said that this Ayah (2:43) is proof for the obligation of performing the prayer in congregation (for men only). I will explain this ruling in detail in Kitab Al-Ahkam Al-Kabir, Allah willing.

[أَتَأْمُرُونَ النَّاسَ بِالْبِرِّ وَتَنسَوْنَ أَنفُسَكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ تَتْلُونَ الْكِتَـبَ أَفَلاَ تَعْقِلُونَ ]

(44. Enjoin you Al-Birr (piety and righteousness and every act of obedience to Allah) on the people and you forget (to practise it) yourselves, while you recite the Scripture (Tawrah: (Seeing that there are some truth still in it, regardless of the falsehood it contains as a later addition))! Have you then no sense)

: Is this less that correction in any body's balanced mind?

@Pilgrim.1


You are confused just because the Quran didnt so abi. Butr have you not been served facts showing that your revelation is corrupt and can not be said to be the original given to earlier prophets.

The Quran came to confirm and correct the early revelations that have been distorted.God gave Jesus a revelation and not four Gospels in which their accounts happened to be contradicting each other. Also, the revelation given was during Jesus' time and not the Gospel that was written after his demise.

Now in all honesty, let us look at one correction here and do tell me which one you will want to give people out of the Quran and biblical versions of the same story about Jesus.

Matthew 1 v 18: Now the birth of Jesus christ was in this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph , before they came together, She was found with child of the Holy spirit.

Was he God's son or Son of the Holy spirit?

Luke 1 v 35: and the angel answered and said unto her, 'the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee and the power of the Highest shall overshdow thee

Now please, do we say Holy Spirit impregnated Mary according to the above passage?

Now read the Quranic version of the same story:

Quran 3 v 47: He said, even so Allah created what He willeth. When he hath decreed a plan, he but said to it 'BE' ad it is.

See similar account from the book of Genesis 1 v 3: when God said 'BE' and 'it was'

Which of the versions will you like to stick to?

@olabowale,

olabowale:

When I requested that the PUNDITS should define for us what is correction, I heard a lot of horrible commentaries.

You haven't heard half the horrible commentaries that inform your hypocrisy in this thread if you keep pretending that you can no longer understand simple English.

olabowale:

I am very busy and Allah has restrained me from truly ugly statements that I would have desired to answer many on this board.

You have not been busy - truth be told. You were playing hide-and-seek after answers started setting your lies to rest. Allah never restrains you from LYING for him; but when you are asked simple questions, then we read that 'Allah' restrains you!

Rubbish!

Just wake up and post the verse I asked for, or simply waka with your overblown shakara out of this thread before you are left clueless and colourless!

This stupid adventures of LYING for 'Allah' and covering up with "I am busy" and "Allah restrained me" will not help your duplicity here.

WHERE DID ALLAH say that he gave the QUR'AN to CORRECT the Biblical Scriptures?

We continue to see that the Qur'an clearly says that it came to CONFIRM (validate, verify) the Biblical scriptures - and not to correct them!

Where is that verse that uses the word "CORRECT"?

babs787:

@Pilgrim.1

[s]
You are confused just because the Quran didnt so abi. Butr have you not been served facts showing that your revelation is corrupt and can not be said to be the original given to earlier prophets.

The Quran came to confirm and correct the early revelations that have been distorted.God gave Jesus a revelation and not four Gospels in which their accounts happened to be contradicting each other. Also, the revelation given was during Jesus' time and not the Gospel that was written after his demise.

Now in all honesty, let us look at one correction here and do tell me which one you will want to give people out of the Quran and biblical versions of the same story about Jesus.

Matthew 1 v 18: Now the birth of Jesus christ was in this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph , before they came together, She was found with child of the Holy spirit.

Was he God's son or Son of the Holy spirit?

Luke 1 v 35: and the angel answered and said unto her, 'the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee and the power of the Highest shall overshdow thee

Now please, do we say Holy Spirit impregnated Mary according to the above passage?

Now read the Quranic version of the same story:

Quran 3 v 47: He said, even so Allah created what He willeth. When he hath decreed a plan, he but said to it 'BE' ad it is.

See similar account from the book of Genesis 1 v 3: when God said 'BE' and 'it was'

Which of the versions will you like to stick to?[/s]

Inspite of all your allegations, could you please refrain and cease from chasing and confusing yourself?

My questions were simple enough: where did the Qur'an itself make the statement that it came to CORRECT the Biblical scriptures?

Is that too hard for your level of education to grasp?

All you keep coming back to do is clearly validate my assertions - that the Qur'an claims it came to CONFIRM the Biblical scriptures. Whatever that statement means is not the issue for now - simply that it claims to have come to CONFIRM them!

Now, do set your Islamic ducking aside and proffer the one verse in the Qur'an where ALLAH stated what you have put in his mouth about the Qur'an claiming to have come to correct the Biblical scriptures.

If you suppose that all your excuses will help to deflect the focus of this thread, you have another thing coming, gentleman. It is either you find that verse, or the Qur'an never stated what you asserted - and it becomes all the more obvious that you LIED for Allah and tried to put words in his mouth.

Which is which?

@pilgrim.1

Inspite of all your allegations, could you please refrain and cease from chasing and confusing yourself?

My questions were simple enough: where did the Qur'an itself make the statement that it came to CORRECT the Biblical scriptures?

Is that too hard for your level of education to grasp?

All you keep coming back to do is clearly validate my assertions - that the Qur'an claims it came to CONFIRM the Biblical scriptures. Whatever that statement means is not the issue for now - simply that it claims to have come to CONFIRM them!

Now, do set your Islamic ducking aside and proffer the one verse in the Qur'an where ALLAH stated what you have put in his mouth about the Qur'an claiming to have come to correct the Biblical scriptures.

If you suppose that all your excuses will help to deflect the focus of this thread, you have another thing coming, gentleman. It is either you find that verse, or the Qur'an never stated what you asserted - and it becomes all the more obvious that you LIED for Allah and tried to put words in his mouth.

Which is which?

Keep confusing yourself. You are sweating just because you didnt see the verse therein . Please Did Gid send prophets with different message?If you care to know al the revelation came from one being and you will also see reference being made to Torah in the Gospel because they came from the same person, Creator.

What does confirmation mean professor Pilgrim.1?

@babs787,

babs787:

@pilgrim.1


Keep confusing yourself. You are sweating just because you didnt see the verse therein .

I am not the one LYING for 'Allah'. The one who LIED for 'Allah' and said the Qur'an said what it never said is the one who has not found that verse for me. If LYING for 'Allah' is all you can do here, keep up the sweat - and with all thy sweatinbg, find me the verse - or remain with the adventures of putting words into 'Allah's mouth'.

babs787:

Please Did Gid send prophets with different message?

Is that the topic of this thread?

Don't dance with such excuses - just get me the one verse that says the Qur'an came to CORRECT the Biblical scriptutres - that is the topic at hand.

babs787:

If you care to know al the revelation came from one being and you will also see reference being made to Torah in the Gospel because they came from the same person, Creator.

Then find me the verse for what you asserted that the Qur'an came to CORRECT them. I want that verse - Period.

babs787:

What does confirmation mean professor Pilgrim.1?

I knew you pretended not to have seen it. Go to the first page and stop this hypocrisy of no longer understanding English.

You should have looked carefully before attempting to open your mouth anyhow and oput words into the mouth of 'Allah' to make him say what he NEVER said!

@olabowale,

WHERE did the QUR'AN state that it came to CORRECT the Biblical scriptures?

After you both are done with your adventures of LYING for 'Allah', please kindly let us know so we can take you to the cleaners and bleach you clueless and colourless.

Next time, think well before you attempt to open your mouth and lie for 'Allah', you hear?

@pilgrim.1

I knew you pretended not to have seen it. Go to the first page and stop this hypocrisy of no longer understanding English.

Can you please re-post the meaning of confirmation for me?

babs787:

@pilgrim.1


Can you please re-post the meaning of confirmation for me?

What is difficult in this simple statement:

pilgrim.1:

Go to the first page

??

@pilgrim

What is difficult in this simple statement:


Quote from: pilgrim.1 on Today at 12:37:13 PM
Go to the first page
??

I want it posted here so that it will aid us in knowing if really the Quran came to confirm and correct the bible.

babs787:

@pilgrim

I want it posted here so that it will aid us in knowing if really the Quran came to confirm and correct the bible.

Please go to the first page and stop your Islamic hypocrisy. I took time to walk you through the meaning and I'm not a Muslim who recycles material and litter pages everywhere you guys pretend that you're struggling with English. This is really shameful and you should really have to go back and upgrade on your intelligence.

If you cannot visit the first page, stop pretending that you no longer understand English - because even that excuse is not going to deflect this thread in any way.

Have you been to the first page?

@pilgrim

Have you been to the first page?

No I didnt bother because I know that my professor, pilgrim.1 :Dwill re-supply the meaning and when you do, we will know if Quran came to confirm and correct the Bible based on verses from both books

@babs787,

babs787:

@pilgrim

No I didnt bother because I know that my professor, pilgrim.1 :Dwill re-supply the meaning and when you do, we will know if Quran came to confirm and correct the Bible based on verses from both books

Lol. . . the one reason why you did not bother is because that gimmick proved a failure!   It is not today I got to know you Muslims and the ad hominen tactics of trying to defelct the core concern of a thread by trying to make irrelevant excuses.

Whenever you wak up from your games, the first page will still be there. Go  there and visit your death-wish as much as you can bear.

When you have satisfied yourself, then again my question is simple and straightforward:

WHERE did the Qur'an say in any verse that it came to correct the Biblical scriptures?

If the Qur'an never made such a claim, WHY have you and your folks been lying for 'Allah' and trying to force words into his mouth so shamelessly?

@pilgrim

When you are through with your game, please call on me.

@babs787,

It's already grown out of use. Find another excuse to buy time.

The first page is not your death warrant. Click it anytime your shakara wanes off.

Babs787, if I were you, I will simply accept that I was wrong and made a mistake and then move on. Even a person with saw dust for brains, know what you are trying to do. You do not have a verse to produce, so just be a man and say so. I know, you don't want to be tagged a liar, but sometimes we say things that we have not verified and then we find out, that it is not a fact. So just man up and stop lookin and sounding like a retard.

babs787:

@pilgrim

When you are through with your game, please call on me.

You mean your own game of not being able to produce a simple verse 3 pages after? Rather choosing to dance decietfully around the question by pretending to be interested in asking ur own plagiarised "questions"?

Lol. . . abeg make una help me tell babs787 the thing wey he dey pretend not to understand again.

davidylan:

You mean your own game of not being able to produce a simple verse 3 pages after?

Hehehe. . . I no fit laugh finish!

theopops:

Babs787, if I were you, I will simply accept that I was wrong and made a mistake and then move on. Even a person with saw dust for brains, know what you are trying to do. . .So just man up and stop lookin and sounding like a retard.

QED. Nothing for me to add!

PLEASE NOTE I AM REPEATING THE POSTING OF THIS MESSAGE IN MOST THREADS IN OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE MENTIONED GET THE MESSAGE I AM TRYING TO PASS ACROSS, I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY INCONVINIENCES IT MIGHT CAUSE OTHER THREAD USERS,

Pilgrim.1, Davidylan, How are you, sorry you didn't I didn't post , statements and comments at all, for a while.

They were due to the following reasons:

1. I didn't have anything to say
2. I realise it was useless trying to convince them (@bab787, @olabowale and co) about something , when Satan has already blinded them to the truth. They themselves have decided to look for loopholes (where there is none) within the bible and lies with which to continue living a lie, and choose not to believe
3. I realised that their (@babs787, et al) would not come by arguing with them , instead it would come via the HolySpirit, ministering to them.

Let us remember that is , He (God) is the one who saved us, , so He is the One who would save them, Our own job as true Christians is just to , "SOW THE SEED OF THE GOOD NEWS OF CHRIST".

Whether or not " They choose to be infertile ground or grounds filled with thorns " is not really our perogative.

4. Finally I have noticed that "they are living for the now , while we are living for the now and then", so just like Jesus instructed the disciples there comes a time when we are supposed to dust our feet and leave


By the way pilgrim.1 and Davidylan, please find attached, some video links that have helped me to understand certain lies , deceit and indoctrination of "Evolution", I hope it helps you to see the truth as it has helped me to see the truth.


http://www.loudcry.org/main/video/Dr_Kent_Hovind_PhD/seminar_videos/7_questions_and_answers_part_2.avi


http://www.loudcry.org/main/video/Dr_Kent_Hovind_PhD/seminar_videos/7_questions_and_answers_part_1.avi


http://www.loudcry.org/main/video/Dr_Kent_Hovind_PhD/seminar_videos/7_questions_and_answers_part_4.avi


http://www.loudcry.org/main/video/Dr_Kent_Hovind_PhD/seminar_videos/7_questions_and_answers_part_3.avi


http://drdino.plaingospel.com/seminar2.wmv


http://drdino.icsrepair.com/videos/lowbitrate/seminar4_low.wmv


http://drdino.icsrepair.com/videos/lowbitrate/seminar3_low.wmv


http://drdino.plaingospel.com/seminar5.wmv


http://www.loudcry.org/main/video/Dr_Kent_Hovind_PhD/seminar_videos/6_the_hovind_theory_part_5.avi


http://www.loudcry.org/main/video/Dr_Kent_Hovind_PhD/seminar_videos/7_questions_and_answers_part_5.avi


http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v27/i4/Wang.asp


http://www.drdino.com/drdinoLinks.php


Finally false doctrine contributes to doubts in ones life and faith in God : below is a link to something on false doctrine which can and might
have led many Christians astray:

http://www.ovrlnd.com/FalseDoctrine/drakesbible.html


To you @babs787, @olabowale , and co, the wise and intelligent thing to do (instead of being dogmatic about issues) is to try and find out why those Christians that were formerly "either so called Moderate Muslims" and "Fanatical Muslims" decided to turn away from their ways and decide to become Christians. At least the truth is that some of them were probably as confrontation and unyielding in their statements as you "seem" to be. It would help you to at least prove for yourself by asking them "WHY" they left islam for Christ.

Unless you take joy in trying to "windup everybody" just for the sake of it, it would help you to conduct truthful research and analysis into why former terrorist, moderate muslims, fanatical muslims, decided to risk everything (life, job and family) all for the purpose of becoming a TRUE CHRISTIAN.


Pilgrim.1 and Davidylan stay blessed and in the hope of salvation through CHRIST

Dear SysUser,

No worries - the thread is open to guys like you, because whenever you post (as do davidylan and others), we can be sure to read some sense.

Thanks for the links - I am sure they will help me quite some.

Cheers and God bless you plenty.

Thanks a bunch sysUser and God bless you too.

Lol @ blabs787. That guy dey misyarn pass basketmouth. What an islamic clown!

on the real though, i believe theopops has summed up what i was about to say to babs787, so therefore. . .

Babs787,

be man enough to acknowledge you were wrong. Everybody makes 'em, what distinguishes us is acknowledging those mistakes and making sure we don't repeat them.

As is the case with most topics on Nairaland, this is more about your ego rather than you believing the quran/your religion is "untainted" and "pure". It is that ego and that puffed up pride that pushes u further, that doesn't make u admit even when you're wrong. Perhaps you need to check yourself. . .same goes for olabowale. Ponder about your attitude and what drives you so.

@Wordsmith: Ego and puffed up pride you said? Not with any Muslim. Remember we humble ourselves before our Creator; Standing , Bowing and Prostrating. Day and Night, every day without any break. Sometimes, when I imaging Sayidina Isa bin Mariam (Jesus son of Mary), walking down the narrow street and alleyways of Jerusalem, I see only a Muslim. He wears his beard long, with his wet hair and long Jilbab! But for you to have catapulted this simple man to a position of 1 part god, 1 part son of god, and at the same time 100% prophet and 100% son of man is a most crazy idea, at best! In anycase, that idea belongs to hellfire.

Am wearing a beard, and a Jilbab, I guess am copying Jesus, emulating him, while you are defaming him, by giving him the accolades that do not belong to him. Calling him god or son of and his mother, by you must be mother of god at the same time being the wife of god or played surrogate to father god for the birth of son god! Now who is very confused and too proud to admit it?

Olabowale, each time you speak you expose the emptiness of islam

So to emulate Jesus Christ is simply to wear a long jalabiya like stone age men and grow ur beard long?

davidylan:

Olabowale, each time you speak you expose the emptiness of islam

So to emulate Jesus Christ is simply to wear a long jalabiya like stone age men and grow your beard long?

I hope he's also riding a donkey and have 12 disciples.
while at it,he ought to send his wives packing,Jesus was unmarried.
These people no go kill me.

David ,A Happy and blessed 2008 to you.
Maybe we'll celebrate the 'revelation' of Iyawo davidylan this year
That may be the good thing that awaits you this year.

nwando:

I hope he's also riding a donkey and have 12 disciples.
while at it,he ought to send his wives packing,Jesus was unmarried.
These people no go kill me.

maybe he should also take to carpentry.

nwando:

David ,A Happy and blessed 2008 to you.
Maybe we'll celebrate the 'revelation' of Iyawo davidylan this year
That may be the good thing that awaits you this year.

My sister, happy new yr to you o . . . God's infinite blessings on you and your family.
By his grace Mrs. Davidylan shall be unveiled this yr for all to see.