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Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 8:45pm On Aug 28, 2012
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point well taken
but do you Yoruba really believe that you defeated igbo
using russia germany to is very funny
because you Yoruba were more like the french grin
you were rescued by an external force
but now you brag more than that external force
imagine france bragging more than russia and usa combined. undecided

The number 1 commander that crushed Biafran forces was a Yoruba man named benjamin Adekunle

The biafran forces surrendered to a Yorubaman named Olusegun Obasanjo

Did the French fight the germans at all? they only deployed guerilla like tactics after the Germans occupied their country

Answer my question: Did the Red Army stop chasing the Nazis once they were out of Russian territory? Why did General Zhukov invade Germany and utterly destroy Berlin?

You all really need to read more about wars

Just like Adekunle asked Why didnt the Russians ask the Germans to give them a corridor to deliver food into Stalingrad during the seige
This interview with the most important man in the Nigerian war took place at night. Whisky and beer were abundant, uniformed go-go girls played DJ, Adekunle danced and petted his mascot, a small mountain goat named "Ojukwu".


ADEKUNLE: Let me tell you something: When the Russians surrounded Stalingrad did you request a land corridor from them so as to better feed your soldiers who were stuck in the pot there? Of course you didn’t and I can tell from your face that you think the thought of a land corridor to bring in food for the captured German soldiers in Stalingrad is a bad joke. Me too. Where and when, …………., was there a war in which the loser was re-nourished one more time before the final loss? Why are you just calling for a land corridor for Biafra? Why aren’t you calling for a land corridor for the Viet Kong?
http://www.kwenu.com/biafra/adekunle_interview.htm
Just like Adekunle asked Why didnt the Russians ask the Germans to give them a corridor to deliver food into Stalingrad during the seige, Like Biafrans are claiming Nigeria didnt do for them
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Aug 28, 2012
dayokanu:

The number 1 commander that crushed Biafran forces was a Yoruba man named benjamin Adekunle

The biafran forces surrendered to a Yorubaman named Olusegun Obasanjo

Did the French fight the germans at all? they only deployed guerilla like tactics after the Germans occupied their country

Answer my question: Did the Red Army stop chasing the Nazis once they were out of Russian territory? Why did General Zhukov invade Germany and utterly destroy Berlin?

You all really need to read more about wars

Just like Adekunle asked Why didnt the Russians ask the Germans to give them a corridor to deliver food into Stalingrad during the seige

http://www.kwenu.com/biafra/adekunle_interview.htm
Just like Adekunle asked Why didnt the Russians ask the Germans to give them a corridor to deliver food into Stalingrad during the seige, Like Biafrans are claiming Nigeria didnt do for them


you don't give the french much credit and likely so because they joined the ranks of allied forces who landed at normandy and from there the rest is history
if the americans never landed at normandy, france would have stayed under german control
if the hausa/fulani soldiers based in ibadan and lagos didn't confront biafran troops at ore, the whole of Yoruba land would have crumbled like france
yaribas were not in the military in relevant numbers as of 1967
you were saved by the north just like the french were saved by the amerricans and the british
why do you make more noise than the real victors
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 9:09pm On Aug 28, 2012
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you don't give the french much credit and likely so because they joined the ranks of allied forces who landed at normandy and from there the rest is history
if the americans never landed at normandy, france would have stayed under german control
if the hausa/fulani soldiers based in ibadan and lagos didn't confront biafran troops at ore, the whole of Yoruba land would have crumbled like france
yaribas were not in the military in relevant numbers as of 1967
you were saved by the north just like the french were saved by the amerricans and the british
why do you make more noise than the real victors

How come it was Yoruba commanders that crushed the biafrans i.e Adekunle or which french commander led the Allied forces?

How come it was a Yoruba man they surendered to while Germany did not surrender to a French commander.

All your analogies fell flat in your face
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:18pm On Aug 28, 2012
dayokanu:

How come it was Yoruba commanders that crushed the biafrans i.e Adekunle or which french commander led the Allied forces?

How come it was a Yoruba man they surendered to while Germany did not surrender to a French commander.

All your analogies fell flat in your face

general dwight eisenhower was an american of french lineage
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 9:24pm On Aug 28, 2012
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general dwight eisenhower was an american of french lineage

Germans surrendered to Eisenhower and to Zhukov none of them was French

Biafra were humiliated by Adekunle and surrendered to Obasanjo
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:24pm On Aug 28, 2012
if there were no hausa and northern soldiers who were occupying Yoruba land in 1967, who would have stopped biafran troops at ore

no doubt

yaribas are like the french
but the french never brag about the world war II
why do you brag more than your saviors
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:25pm On Aug 28, 2012
your papa awo asked aboki soldiers to leave and they laughed at him
later he sold you by giving them land from offa to the sea in return
from there they march to biafra

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Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by OneNaira6: 9:28pm On Aug 28, 2012
Onlytruth: I have worked in the US for many years; EACH and EVERY job I've ever obtained was after undergoing a stiff screaning process based on such criteria as education, experience, written tests, and oral interviews. None of the jobs was ever given to me based on anything but MERIT. I know about "affirmative action", but the overwhelming majority of jobs here are based on qualification and competence. Often, one finds oneself working with mainly whites and asians; but EVERY black I have worked with here are very competent and very hardworking.

That is the America that I love. That is why things work here. cool

Why is it that in Africa, the moment one cannot beat a competitive recruitment or appointment process, one starts to allege all types of "domination", "marginalization", etc?
Why should laziness be accomodated in any progressive society?

Even more, why should we complain when things don't work, even when we know that the incompetent workers were chosen so as not to trip the wire of "domination" or "marginalization"?

I noticed that those usually "guilty" or on the receiving end of these accusations are usually the hardest working Africans, and you find this same problem in nearly every African country.

How can Africa ever develop with a lazy accussatory culture which envies, (and often) blackmails hardwork, often presenting it as something negative?

Isn't this mindset a form of mental retardation or mental derangment?

What you just wrote is the said reason many Europeans deemed Africans ignorant, unable to lead themselves and unable to succeed. Which daily and sadly, Africans continue to prove them right. Instead to choose the best competent for the best jobs, Africans natural seek someone of "my own" ethnicity, etc. It's a damn shame.
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:29pm On Aug 28, 2012
OP was right
this thread is now crawling with coward yaribas who didn't have up to 5% of the military during the war
now they are supposed to have defeated biafra with two men grin
these yaribas never cease to amaze
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 9:29pm On Aug 28, 2012
Sorry about how Adekunle dealt with your people

He shot everything that moved and those that didnt move, While Ikeeba and company ate the others for dinner

no wonder Ojuku was getting fatter while common people were dying of kwashiokor

Show us pics of any Ojuku family that starved yet he allowed defenceless kids to starve to death

What an animal
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Aug 28, 2012
^
can you brainless lots think of something new to say for once
is cowardice directly proportional to brainlessness
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 9:42pm On Aug 28, 2012
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can you brainless lots think of something new to say for once
is cowardice directly proportional to brainlessness

Are you saying the coward who fled to Abidjan killing two girls in the process is also brainless?

No wonder. Ojuku must be the worst human ever born to a pig
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:45pm On Aug 28, 2012
^^

can you tell us which division of the nigerian army that yaribas made up to 50% never mind 100% igbo divisions in biafra
just tell us one
i dey wait o
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:47pm On Aug 28, 2012
never even mind 50% in divisions
tell us which brigage or even platoon of the nigerian army in 1967 which Yoruba made up to 50%
, or even 25%

these yaribas must be the loudest jokers in africa ! cheesy
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by ikeyman00(m): 9:50pm On Aug 28, 2012
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this is the reason one get really mad watching those fools in NTA news

really mad!

watching some northern governor talking about what he did for his people; all i see is clicks of people waiting to go to mecca

i really get mad at these fools

now the same could be said about super eagles; give me that job, i swear i will pick up fresh legs from the street to represent

which way people;

this is really embarassing; for real

meanwhile progress has be redefine as envy across the country in nigeria ; every simple thing is define as domination in the country lipsrsealed
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Desola(f): 9:52pm On Aug 28, 2012
Onlytruth: Also the second leg of my question is why the so called "dominated groups" are always fighting to keep the "dominating group" in Nigeria?
Makes no damn sense.

When our fathers felt that the British were dominating them, they seceded from Britain. Nigeria seceded from Britain in 1960 and the British didn't go to war to stop Nigeria's secession. Why should Nigeria go to war against say Igboland (Biafra carved from Igboland only)? Why would any Nigerian fight to keep Igbo in Nigeria? This logically seems to confuse not quite a few Nigerians.
That is why I allege mental retardation.

don't flatter yourself boy! That you have domineering, arrogant, annoying attitude does not mean you are dominating. You lot just suffer from delusion of grandeur but I suppose we should suffer you fools gladly as it makes you all sleep at night.

The "dominated" not letting the "dominating" go. What a load of baloney!
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 9:54pm On Aug 28, 2012
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^^

can you tell us which division of the nigerian army that yaribas made up to 50% never mind 100% igbo divisions in biafra
just tell us one
i dey wait o

Foot soldiers dont win wars, Intelligent officers do

The Yorubas were the commanders

Adekunle, Alabi-Isama, Obasanjo etc
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:55pm On Aug 28, 2012
Desola:

don't flatter yourself boy! That you have domineering, arrogant, annoying attitude does not mean you are dominating. You lot just suffer from delusion of grandeur but I suppose we should suffer you fools gladly as it makes you all sleep at night.

The "dominated" not letting the "dominating" go. What a load of baloney!

i think he is trying to point out a fallacy
you are taking him literally
he is right that most of you are unintelligent
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 9:57pm On Aug 28, 2012
dayokanu:

Foot soldiers dont win wars, Intelligent officers do

The Yorubas were the commanders

Adekunle, Alabi-Isama, Obasanjo etc

na lie o!
foot soldiers always win wars
wars don't end when generals die
the most intelligent commanders can't fight alone
wars end when the other side runs out of foot soldiers
tell us how many foot soldiers in the nigerian army were Yoruba
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by ikeyman00(m): 10:02pm On Aug 28, 2012
don't flatter yourself boy! That you have domineering, arrogant, annoying attitude does not mean you are dominating. You lot just suffer from delusion of grandeur but I suppose we should suffer you fools gladly as it makes you all sleep at night.

The "dominated" not letting the "dominating" go. What a load of baloney!

i wonder when u gona start to use ur head for once in ur life

should u dnt know this is 2012 and u really cnt carry on like this u know

we as people simply cnt carry on like this; wether una Yoruba like it or not

at this age the US just sent the CURIOUS-machine to the mars and u are here postin $HIT as usual.

Behave like a human being for once in ur life plz
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 10:05pm On Aug 28, 2012
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na lie o!
foot soldiers always win wars
wars don't end when generals die
the most intelligent commanders can't fight alone
wars end when the other side runs out of foot soldiers
tell us how many foot soldiers in the nigerian army were Yoruba

Thats where the Igbo lack of sense always come to fore

Its the commanders calculations or mistakes that always lead to loses in wars

Igbos think foot soldiers win wars No wonder you were turned to target practice for Adekunle and co
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by ikeyman00(m): 10:05pm On Aug 28, 2012
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as for those talking about war

we in the UK know the war was polarised;

the UK played their role big time and every body in UK knows that cool
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 10:09pm On Aug 28, 2012
dayokanu:

Thats where the Igbo lack of sense always come to fore

Its the commanders calculations or mistakes that always lead to loses in wars

Igbos think foot soldiers win wars No wonder you were turned to target practice for Adekunle and co

if all the members of the nigerian army were the 200 Yoruba soldiers in the whole nigerian army
would they have stood against 200 red eyed biafran soldiers
even with general MacArthur as their commander cheesy
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by dayokanu(m): 10:21pm On Aug 28, 2012
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if all the members of the nigerian army were the 200 Yoruba soldiers in the whole nigerian army
would they have stood against 200 red eyed biafran soldiers
even with general MacArthur as their commander cheesy

Biafran soldiers were a joke or are those not the same ones Adekunle used for shooting practice?
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Nobody: 10:24pm On Aug 28, 2012
dayokanu:

Biafran soldiers were a joke or are those not the same ones Adekunle used for shooting practice?

you mean the jokes that sent adekunle packing from his day job
from a commander to a desk clerk

the jokes that fought the world for three years
they must be a really good joke. grin

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Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Onlytruth(m): 4:39am On Aug 29, 2012
One_Naira:

What you just wrote is the said reason many Europeans deemed Africans ignorant, unable to lead themselves and unable to succeed. Which daily and sadly, Africans continue to prove them right. Instead to choose the best competent for the best jobs, Africans natural seek someone of my own ethnicity, etc. It's a damn shame.

Spot on, but the more puzzling thing is that afterwards they still complain that things don't work.
Isn't that similar to a child who insists on finishing his food today and will still wake up early the next day to start crying about the same food?
This is puzzling to say the least. This is why I question the mental health of some Africans.
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Onlytruth(m): 4:46am On Aug 29, 2012
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i think he is trying to point out a fallacy
you are taking him literally
he is right that most of you are unintelligent

Thank you my brother! The fallacy is obvious to any intelligent mind. You allege that someone is dominating you, yet you cling on to the person directly or indirectly. You depend on him to develop your towns; you go to the schools he built in his own side of Nigeria; you do everything you can to remind him of the last time he tried to secede (obviously with the hope that you can frighten him out of his secessionist agenda); yet you still accuse him of dominating you!

Nna I can't follow this type of a convoluted illogic. undecided
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Onlytruth(m): 4:52am On Aug 29, 2012
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you mean the jokes that sent adekunle packing from his day job
from a commander to a desk clerk

the jokes that fought the world for three years
they must be a really good joke. grin

hahaha! Bros I tire o! grin grin

But I'm more concerned that they are flooding this thread with all types of chest beating. Shouldn't they be religiously supporting Igbo people to secede from Nigeria? I saw the thread where Obiagu1 was providing evidence that Yoruba should not be in Nigeria. I have not followed his evidence much, but that is what I would do if I don't want to be in the same country with Yoruba. I would do my best to help them leave Nigeria. But that is not what we see in case of Igbo. Our accusers NEVER make case for us to leave Nigeria; they NEVER offer support to us in our bid to leave. On the contrary they try to play mind games by reminding us how they joined the forces trying to keep us in Nigeria by force.

What type of mental retardation is that?
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by Onlytruth(m): 4:58am On Aug 29, 2012
So, I have finally concluded that the GREATEST LIE ever told in the Nigerian nation (from amalgamation till date) is that Igbo is dominating anybody.

That is a GREAT LIE from the pit of hell, and GOD will punish any group that uses this lie to deny hardworking Igbo people their fair share of proceeds from their hard labor.

Any group or individual continuing to peddle this lie will NEVER see progress!

Isee!

Signed,

Onlytruth.

Ndu di n'eziokwu 1 of Igboland, Eze Ndigbo Nairaland. cool cool cool
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by sheyguy: 6:34am On Aug 29, 2012
^^ the curse of Southern Cameroonians is firmly on the head of their Oppressors from Nigeria. May be Aguiyi Ironsi too was a Merit Based C in C, or Ojukwu was a Merit Based Corporal too.
Deal with the accusation of the Cameroonians that Igbos are corrupt and stop spinning trash here. . . Merit Based Appointment my foot.
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by sheyguy: 6:46am On Aug 29, 2012
Onlytruth:

Thank you my brother! The fallacy is obvious to any intelligent mind. You allege that someone is dominating you, yet you cling on to the person directly or indirectly. You depend on him to develop your towns; you go to the schools he built in his own side of Nigeria; you do everything you can to remind him of the last time he tried to secede (obviously with the hope that you can frighten him out of his secessionist agenda); yet you still accuse him of dominating you!

Nna I can't follow this type of a convoluted illogic. undecided

There is a saying : Keep those who choose to be your enemy close so can see them.
That's exactly what Nigerians are doing. Igbo man must be kept in check. Never Allow Igbo-man Rule Again (NAIRA).
Re: Why Do Some Africans See Merit Based Appointments As Proof of "Domination"? by AjanleKoko: 9:54am On Aug 29, 2012
This thread is odd sha.
Title says one thing, the example in the original post says another. No correlation.
I think I'll just exercise my dormant mod powers and move this to the Politics section wink

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