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Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 9:55pm On Oct 16, 2012
lorddannie: The payment of offerings and tithe has been an integral parts of biblical doctrines. Offerings come in various forms; covenant offering, seed offerings, first-fruits, heave, wave, offerings to support God's work, to support God's servants, for building of the church of God, to assist the less privilege, orphans widows etc. Christians do not give offerings to sponsor terrorism, extremists, religious bigots and fanatics or procure IEDs and ammunition. People give offering according to their abilities; Tithe may be 10% or more (Jesus accepted and commended an old woman for her offering; an old coin which was all she had), as the giver wishes to some give ALL, others old coin. So there no abuse, or force or compulsion in it. our jealousy maY be due to the abundance that results from there offerings, but bible acknowledge the fact that it would result in plenty(Malachi 3;1-10). Jesus has never spoken against offerings or tithes of whatever kind. The book of ACTs 4;33-37, ACTs 5;1-11, reported that people sold their lands and houses and gave the money to the missionary. Acts 5:4 specifically showed that there is no compulsion in giving offerings "...was the land yours before you sold it? after it was sold you could have done what you wanted to do with the money..." Even God have his only begotten sold, as a covenant offering. When God required Isaac from Abraham was it not his all?
So Dear Mosquito and his misguided followers who blindly clicked the "like" button, keep your agnosticism to your good self and stop spreading heresy and blasphemy. You may kindly read the verses for your admonition and be guided;
q Prov 22:9 (Generous man will be blessed)

q Prov 28:22 (Stingy man is eager to get rich, but gets poverty)

q Prov 28:27 (Give and have enough, withhold and be cursed)

q Matt 6:25-34 (Don’t worry, but seek first the kingdom of God)

q Mark 12:41-44 (Rich people giving and the widow’s mite)

q Deut 16:10 (Give in proportion to the blessings the Lord has given you)

q Deut 16:16 (No man should appear before the Lord empty-handed)

q Deut 16:17 (Each person should give in proportion to the way God has blessed them)

q 1 Cor 16:2 (On the first day of each week, give according to God’s blessing)

q 1 Tim 6:6-11 (Cautions about the materialism and the love of money)

q 1 Tim 6:17-19 (Instructions to be generous and willing to share)

q 1 Sam 30:24 (Those who stay with the supplies share with those on the front lines)

q Matt 6:19-21 (Do not store up for yourselves treasure on earth – heart & treasure linked)

q Heb 6:10 (God is not unfair, He will not forget the help you gave)

q Isa 32:8 (Noble man makes noble plans)

q Acts 2:44-45 (Believers had everything in common)

q Acts 4:34-37 (No needy persons. Sale of lands and houses.)

q Rom 12:13 (Share with God's people who are in need)

q Heb 13:16 (Don’t forget to do good and share with others)

q I Jn 3:17 (Do you see brothers in need – help them)

q Luke 18:22-25 (Rich man turns away from Jesus)

q Gal 6:6 (Support financially those who teach you the Word of God)

q Matt 25:35-40 (Helping the least of the brethren is helping Jesus)

Acts 20:35 (It is more blessed to given than to receive)
Mal 1:6-14 (Malachi’s rebuke for bringing bad offerings)

q Hag 1:4-11 (Haggai’s giving challenge)

q 1 Chr 29:2-9 (David’s generous gift & giving challenge)

q 1 Chr 29:11-17 (Everything we have and gives comes from God)

q Luke 6:38 (Give and God will see others give to you)

q 2 Cor 8:2-21 (Rich generosity in the midst of extreme poverty)

q 2 Cor 9:5-15 (God loves a cheerful giver)

q Deut 28:12-13, 43-45 (Blessings & curses for obedience)

q Ps 50:9-12 (God owns everything)

q Prov 11:24-25 (Generosity is the pathway for more)

q Prov 18:9 (Slackness in giving is the same as destroying things)

Gen 14:19 (Abraham’s give of 10%)

q Gen 28:20-22 (Jacob decision to give 10% to God)

q Exod 35:4-29 (Moses and the people’s gifts to build the tabernacle)

q Lev 27:30 (Tithe of everything is the Lord’s)

q Lev 27:32 (Every tenth animal is the Lord’s)

q Num 18:21 (Tithes support ministers of God)

q Deut 12:5-7 (Tithes, special gifts, freewill offerings)

Malachi 3:7-12
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 [b]Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
[/b]

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in q 2 Chr 31:2-12 (Hezekiah generosity & giving instructions)

q Neh 10:35-37 (Nehemiah’s giving instructions)

q Neh 12:43-47 (Faithful giving to God’s ministers)

q Neh 13:11-13 (Nehemiah’s rebuke & the results)

q Mal 3:7-12 (Holding back tithes & offerings is stealing from God)

q Matt 23:23 (Jesus’ affirmation of tithing)

q Luke 11:42 (Jesus’ affirmation of tithing)

q I Kings 17:8-16 (Elijah and the starving widow)

q Deut 8:18 (God gives people ability to produce wealth)

q Prov 3:9-10 (Honor the Lord with your wealth & firstfruits)


look at this jew!

If you are a gentile you will not be quoting Jewish laws for Gentile christians.

Infact you dont have anything to do with the understanding of the bible.

Your greed has blinded you.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 9:58pm On Oct 16, 2012
futurehome:

Hello sir, Did you read 2 Tim 4 from the first verse to the end?
My advice is that you read and meditate the scriptures not just contextual.

The essence of seeding and covenant partnership is to raise funds for Gospel work.
May God grant you understanding in JESUS NAME.

what about raising money to build expensive schools that the members cant attend?
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 10:02pm On Oct 16, 2012
lorddannie: contributing to the household of God does not stop one from giving voluntarily to people in need; the bible encourage it and Christians practice. No body tries to bribe God, Christians know that. Check my post above. Read Matthew 25:40-45

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

wrong application.

Christian giving is voluntary, as their heart moved them.

You dont fixed no money for no one
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 10:04pm On Oct 16, 2012
lorddannie: Covenant offerings are not bribes to God for long live. but God sometimes feel compelled to do some uncommon things to givers. The case of Hezekiah is a classical one. God extended the life of Hezekiah because of his offerings and good works. See 2chronicles 31;2-12 and 2kings 20;1-6

then your god is wicked and partial.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 10:07pm On Oct 16, 2012
aremzyolly: I dont think this is the real website..I checked all the updates on that site and all i can say is that this is a cloned webpage and not the real one..The contact us form on the site which you pasted do not have a valid email address and phone number and only comes with 2 address.. the lagos branch and the redemption camp.. try and check the main rccg site and see the contact form... http://www.rccg.org/contact.php

2. Rccg laways have events lined up till december check here http://www.rccg.org/event.php but the other site do not have any upcoming events which i can conclude that the webmaster do not have any of their listed programmes and i dodnt even think he is a christian.

many other points but to make m conclusion..I am also a webmaster and the site look very very fake!!! gbagaun!!!

but RCCG members here say it is real and true, they say that they are even members so Whats your own?
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 10:18pm On Oct 16, 2012
swtcharissa: Plz u guys shud shut up,y castigating a man of God?is he forcing u to pay?or to become a partner?r there no categories for what one can pay?do u guys knw wat it is to actually sow?ask ple who did d previous partnership n they will tell u tremendious testimonies,do u know that there r some tins God does for one as a result of dat person past sowing,plz plz plz,dnt inflict urself with problems by speaking ill of God's child

exploitation is a seriouse sin.

He is a fraud.

You and him need to repent.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Nobody: 11:05pm On Oct 16, 2012
Labelle:

Hi, sorry to crush your hopes, but the website is infact very real

pls see both links

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-30807.html
http://www..com/talk/topic,83714.0.html

What has happened now is that the link has suspiciously been deleted. Why??

This is where that post used to be

http://rccg.camp7.org/Default.aspx?pageId=28884

You can get to this site from http://www.rccg.org (Official site of RCCG), click on rccg home page tab on the lower right on the screen

On the next page, scroll down and click on ''covenant partners''

You'll see the exact same post.

Or just go here http://www.rccg.org/home.php

The UBA Accounts are the same.

Accept my sincere apologies for this revelation.





ITS REAL? NOW I AM WEEPING AND MOURNING!!!!! MY RCCG MEMBERSHIP IS NOW IN REVIEW - NEED TO PRAY AND FAST TOO!!!!!
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by gametalk: 11:54pm On Oct 16, 2012
Hmmm, I reserved my comments... But still making my money via online investment. Check my signature link below, click on my blog to see the list of the websites where where i'm making my real online money. Leave RCCG matter and make money for Christmas. Thanks.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Nobody: 12:23am On Oct 17, 2012
^^^I DONT BELIEVE IN CHRISTMAS - NOT A PAGAN - AND STOP POSTING RUBBISH ON THIS THREAD! OLE LIKE YOU!! WHY NOT GO AND OPEN YOUR OWN CHURCH?
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by lumideezle(m): 3:36pm On Oct 17, 2012
The top 20 richest and most successful people in the world are not Christians [/b]talk less of covenant partners, and they are all alive and in good health. some people would try to deceive you that they have hidden problems, but the question i ask is who dosent have troubles at one point or the other. Anyway i just thought i should point that out. If you wanna give to God please i beg you [b]DO NOT give because you are expecting his protection, health or what have you, give because you love God and you appreciate what he has done for you. It is that time that he would move on your behalf. Remember God sees the heart and knows the intention behind every giving.
I am going to use Solomon as an example. He dint give to God because he Needed him to Prolong his life,give him money, etc He gave because he wanted to worship God for making him complete the temple ( That was the intention) and that was y God visited him at night and blessed him.
So please do not let any man of God deceive you Give because you love God and you appreciate him for who he is.
You too imagine you were the President of Naija and two people came to offer you gifts, and u happen to know the intentions behind both offerings. One offered just because he wanted you to sign his contract papers and the other because he loved you and respected your position. Who would you Bless first ?? think about it cheers

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Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Ilekokonit: 7:15pm On Oct 17, 2012
When I asked God, He said there will be a new set and it will not be for ten years. He said “because those people were in covenant with you for ten years, I had no choice but to keep them alive for ten years” He said “You tied my hands”.

So, Pastor Adeboye is saying that if those people were not in financial covenant with him for ten years, God would not have kept them alive for ten years[/b]” And he has the audacity to say that God said so !!!!!

This is high level mind games playing on the widely held fear of death held by most Nigerians.

God will never keep you alive just because you give money to your church. What if you had no money to give ? Will God allow you to die just because you did not give to Adeboye ??

Our Pastors are becoming more greedy than our demonic politicians by the day.


Labelle:
What has happened now is that the link has suspiciously been deleted. Why??

This is where that post used to be

http://rccg.camp7.org/Default.aspx?pageId=28884

You can get to this site from http://www.rccg.org (Official site of RCCG), click on rccg home page tab on the lower right on the screen

On the next page, scroll down and click on ''covenant partners''

You'll see the exact same post.

The link "covenant partners" now "mysteriously" leads you to the following message :- "Resource not found. Sorry, specified resource could not be found. It is possible it has been deleted. If you believe that this is due to a system error, please let us know and we will look into it."

It is suspicious that out of the 19 different links at the bottom left of http://www.rccg.org/home.php only the "covenant partners" link now "mysteriously" leads you to the "Resource not found" page.

You can fool some people some of the time but you can not fool all of the people all of the time as No one has a monopoly of wisdom or annointing.


I am a christian but one who refuses to see any pastor as God or place them on a pedestal.I only follow whats in the bible and no matter a pastors rank, if what you are telling me is not biblical or I sense that you are a manipulative person who is trying to brainwash people I just switch off. In fact to avoid the opportunity of being manipulated to occur in the first place, I will not even go to any pastors church except I am fully convinced in my heart that God called him/her (although we have no proof that God called a lot of today's pastors as we were not there when God called them).

The Nigerian Christian Populace have been so conned by so called charlartans whose wives and children are living the highlife thanks to the multipler effect of tithes and offerings which simply means that 10 Naira miltiplied by 100,000 regular givers every month equals 1,000,000 Naira monthly into the church coffers whilst 10 Naira miltiplied by just 100 regular givers every month equals 1,000 Naira hence these smart alec's marauding as pastors embark on a massive membership recruitment drive in order to increase their membership numbers in anticipation of this multiplier effect kicking in and swelling their bank accounts beyond their wildest dreams and beyond what they would have legitimately earned from their original professions in 99 lifetimes.

Their ploy is to play on Nigerians :-

Fear of Poverty
Fear of Infertility
Fear of Sickness
Fear of being single
Fear of Untimely death
Fear of Witches and Wizards
Fear of Going to Hell


All they've got is a gift of the gab coupled with intense effort spent of watching and memorising the sermons/books of "Popular" American preachers and then regurgitating snippets of these to their long suffering, browbeaten, exhausted but "prosperity hunting" church members who after hustling Mon-Sat are so empty psychologically that they are willing to pay their gate fees (a.k.a tithes and offerings) to watch these masters of deceit (a.k.a Pastors) strut their stuff on stage every Sunday.

As the Pastor has only been reading/watching videos all week in preparation for his Sunday "performance", he is obviously more invigorated and less tired that his mass of downtrodden followers who will gladly pay for the charlartan to give them a psychological boost which doesn't last past Noon on Monday leaving the addicted church member needing another fix on the next Sunday.

Lets stop placing these Pastors on a pedestal. They are not and should not take the place of Jesus Christ in your mind.

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Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Ilekokonit: 8:34pm On Oct 17, 2012

Pennywise
This is fleecing the faithful.
Nig govt should take steps to protect the weak among us from these open acts of religious predation. Some countries have already stopped industrious nig pastors from merchandising miracles on their soil.

But with Jonathan kneeling down for Adeboye and his congregation no one expects this to happen any time soon.
Pathetic.

Well observed
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Nobody: 11:18pm On Oct 17, 2012
^^^NA WA O, WHERE THE REMAINING RCCG MEMBERS? I NEED TO KNOW WHY THE CONTROVERSIAL LINK WAS REMOVED? SOMEONE ON THIS THREAD MUST HAVE ENGINEERED IT!
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 1:20am On Oct 18, 2012
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^^^NA WA O, WHERE THE REMAINING RCCG MEMBERS? I NEED TO KNOW WHY THE CONTROVERSIAL LINK WAS REMOVED? SOMEONE ON THIS THREAD MUST HAVE ENGINEERED IT!
where there is light darkness must disappear.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Ilekokonit: 1:44am On Oct 18, 2012
If you’re writing a cheque, please write it in the name of The Redeemed Christian Church of God and then at the back, put ‘Covenant Partner’. Don’t write the cheque in Pastor E. A. Adeboye's name.

Any cheque written in my name will be used for what? (Response from the congregation: pounded yam) ah! Thank you, it will go for pounded yam straight.


What a crafty way of Adeboye justifying to himself his plan to convert for his own belly any cheque which mistakenly has his name as the payee.

Ola Ola pounded yam

What have these Pastors become

They have become a menace to the Nigerian society.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Ilekokonit: 1:57am On Oct 18, 2012
Deyhmee
Smh.... Did he force anybody to pay?!! Most of you didn't see the N500 category there oo. The money isn't going into daddy's account,
.

The following statement was made by Adeboye :-
Don’t write the cheque in Pastor E. A. Adeboye's name.

Any cheque written in my name will be used for what? (Response from the congregation: pounded yam) ah! Thank you, it will go for pounded yam straight.

"Daddy" himself said any cheque written in his name will be spent feeding himself with pounded yam. How clear could his motives have been
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Nobody: 4:14am On Oct 18, 2012
I AM STILL TRYING MY BEST TO BELIEVE THAT I AM DREAMING HERE OR THAT IT IS ANOTHER RCCG THAT POSTED THIS.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 9:26am On Oct 18, 2012
Ilekokonit: .

The following statement was made by Adeboye :-


"Daddy" himself said any cheque written in his name will be spent feeding himself with pounded yam. How clear could his motives have been

maybe he is not a signetary to the RCCG account also or have people that are the signetary that takes orders from him.

He succeed in deceiving the congrgation with such "empty speech"
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by truthislight: 9:28am On Oct 18, 2012
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I AM STILL TRYING MY BEST TO BELIEVE THAT I AM DREAMING HERE OR THAT IT IS ANOTHER RCCG THAT POSTED THIS.

the RCCG seems to have destroyed your faith in the bible going by what you are posting in NL.
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Nobody: 12:42pm On Oct 18, 2012
truthislight:

the RCCG seems to have destroyed your faith in the bible going by what you are posting in NL.
MY FAITH IS INTACT, I DONT MIX UP MY FAITH IN JESUS WITH RELIGION. WHAT IF YOUR PASTOR GOES TO HELL FIRE, WILL YOU NECESSARILY FOLLOW?
SALVATION IS A PERSONAL THING. . .
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Ilekokonit: 12:29am On Oct 19, 2012

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MY FAITH IS INTACT, I DONT MIX UP MY FAITH IN JESUS WITH RELIGION. WHAT IF YOUR PASTOR GOES TO HELL FIRE, WILL YOU NECESSARILY FOLLOW?
SALVATION IS A PERSONAL THING. . .

Words of wisdom
Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by IdiAmin2(m): 11:22am On Nov 10, 2012
I am deeply saddened by this post. Deeply saddened.

Not sad because GO is fleecing the flock, and playing on the desperation of the poor.

I am sad because I am just thinking to myself 'why I no do pastor work!!!!!!!!!!!!!' instead of wasting my time Monday to Friday going to some godamn office!!

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Re: RCCG Covenant Partnership - Scam Of All Scams? by Wadeoye(m): 10:44pm On Nov 10, 2012
Omo Alata:

We're not foolish. This extortion is clear to see smiley

And tell me of a christian church where extortion is not the main but hiden objective? On a very short street in Lagos, you will see more than 10 churches all looking for mumus to extort money from. If it is all about worshipping God, why can't the churches on a street merge into one or two? And why are most churches personally owned and managed? To make them holy?

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