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| Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by abysirius(m): 10:13am On Sep 23, 2012 |
This perhaps must have crossed a lot of minds at the thought of the ridiculous tuition fees that most of these private universities (most especially churches owned schools) charge their student. Come to think of it, these schools are built with church funds yet it is only the rich, I mean 'very rich' that are only capable of sending their children to these schools. If I may use JABU- Joseph Ayo Babalola University owned by CAC- as an example, I was in year 1 @ LAUTECH when they where still raising money for the school. After every sunday service the pastor would come and remind every member of their commitment towards building the school. So then it was a normal routine that they raised a special offering for the building of the university then. This happens in virtually all CAC churches throughout the federation during this time. Those that are CAC members can bear me witness. They'll task everybody and I tell you, pple supported this mission with the mind that @ least if the school is built it will still help my children. We all know that ratio of the rich to the poor in most CAC churches are like 30:70. The reason is not far-fetched. CAC is predominantly a yoruba church for the not too educated class except for some few top notch in the society that specifically like their service, the church is filled with petty traders. Back to my point exactly: Now that the school is in operation, how many of these poor petty CAC traders can send their children to the school for enrolment? What exactly is the aim of the church mgt.: Is it to bridge the gap btw the poor and the rich or to widen it? Do they ever think of rewarding these poor pple that contributed towards the creation os these schools or are they of the opinion that their reward is in heaven when even the 'G.O.s' are rreaping theirs here on earth? What kinda message are we sending out to our immediate environment. Before the emergence of these so called private schools in Nigeria tertiary schools were pretty okay. LAUTECH was paying 2,500 naira. In 2006 it became 6k. Before I left it was 40k thanks to Baptist Missionary, CAC, the 7th adventist mission, catholic churh, abi no be dem get Ajayi crowther? Winners, in fact na u try pass. Pls we need to wake up and stop been fooled in the name of Christ. I don't know your take on this but I believe there could better ways to this. Ur views are welcom.. 104 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Areaboy2(m): 11:22am On Sep 23, 2012 |
abysirius: This perhaps must have crossed a lot of minds at the thought of the ridiculous tuition fees that most of these private universities (most especially churches owned schools) charge their student. Come to think of it, these schools are built with church funds yet it is only the rich, I mean 'very rich' that are only capable of sending their children to these schools. To be honest, this is no different from extorting the congregation only to buy a gulf stream g550! I mean what the hell  !? I can understand the economics involved, but why not continue the Sunday collection in the name of a subsidy to drastically reduce cost? also publish their financial sheet so everyone can see! A church doesn't need to rake in profits from an establishment as a school, all they need to do is break even.Sadly, making profit is the name of the game for these churches! How many of them have built factories to employ staff? how many of them embark in extensive community water projects? I can only name a few! The aim here is obvious to a blind man. Profit, Profit, and more Profit. "Good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over"  31 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Nobody: 3:42pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
Most universities, even here in the United States, are sponsored by churches. Some genuinely support the education of the youth while most have ulterior motives to gain support, money and/or converts. i went to a private college and ended up leaving after ONE SEMESTER because one of the requirements was to go to the on-campus church at least twice a month regardless of your religious views. If you were Muslim or follower of any other faith, who didn't want to go, you were expected to write a paper in the beginning of the semester explaining why you choose not to. In fact because so many kids opted out of it, one Sunday the entire freshman class was told to go to a mandatory meeting in the school gymnasium and had to sit in a two hour lecture about the importance of religious tolerance and why it is important to go in the church to see that all believers of God want the same thing.  I heard they have since changed the policy but it was crazy. I couldn't take it and bounced (left). 4 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Joagbaje(m): 7:01am On Sep 24, 2012 |
What were the school built for? What was the vision behind the institutions ? Was it built for church members or less privilege? Or built to save the decay of quality education in the nation? . If the vision for the institution was for free education or for Christians only or for the poor. You may blame them . But I don't think that's the case. Churches should not be castigated for the fees in schools. He school is public institution and normal fees should be paid . 6 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by 2good(m): 7:25am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Joagbaje: What were the school built for? What was the vision behind the institutions ? Was it built for church members or less privilege? Or built to save the decay of quality education in the nation? . Uncle Joe, you really need to stop this your blind faith and start looking at things from reality. While Winners Chapel was raising funds to build Covenant university, I know how much my father contributed to the project from his salary and after the school was completed, none of his children could attend the school because it was too expensive while his rich brother who was not a member of the church could send his children to the school because he has the money. How can you support a situation where the church members that contributed to the building of the university, cannot send their children there to study? 51 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by ijawkid(m): 7:35am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Joagbaje: What were the school built for? What was the vision behind the institutions ? Was it built for church members or less privilege? Or built to save the decay of quality education in the nation? . Joe it would be wrong if u take sides with these guys who milk there members dry to erect schools that the members after putting much effort to build d school cannot afford the fees after its completion..... Its clear that these persons(the church members) are being used... For once say ""NO" to the corruption that is prevalant in the churches today..... 12 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Nobody: 7:52am On Sep 24, 2012 |
ijawkid:As long as it is done in the name of Xtianity, Uncle Joe has no problem with it.... Even this one:www.nairaland.com/1033120/rccg-covenant-partnership-scam-all
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| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Zikkyy(m): 8:29am On Sep 24, 2012 |
ijawkid: I want to agree with joagbaje, you really need to ask what the church objectives are. Was it to provide affordable education to church members? was is to provide quality education (only to those that can afford it)? Was it for profit? If it was clear from the very beginning that it was going to be for those that can afford it, you don't blame the church. 1 Like |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by manmustwac(m): 9:47am On Sep 24, 2012 |
Zikkyy:Well shouldn't the church at least be honest 18 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Zikkyy(m): 10:20am On Sep 24, 2012 |
manmustwac: Well shouldn't the church at least be honest True, members should be made aware of the visions/motive of the church/pastor (from the beginning). That's when when you blame the the church/pastor. I think that's what Joagbaje was saying here: Joagbaje: |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Jenwitemi(m): 12:04pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
Lol! The poor congregation gets conned by their "shepherd" into contributing money for building an institution they and their children will never benefit from and they should not blame the church hierarchy for it?! Oh well, the poor sods deserve what they get for putting their faith in these con artists in the cloak of pastors. Zikkyy: 4 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by PastorKun(m): 12:23pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
ijawkid: Say NO ke? Have forgotten that uncle joe is an intregal part and beneficiary of this corruption? Do you want him to use his own hand to pour sand in his garri? 2 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Zikkyy(m): 2:04pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Lol! The poor congregation gets conned by their "shepherd" into contributing money for building an institution they and their children will never benefit from and they should not blame the church hierarchy for it?! Oh well, the poor sods deserve what they get for putting their faith in these con artists in the cloak of pastors. I don't see why you should blame the pastor if the poor congregation knew the fees was going to be in U.S dollars prior to contributing. |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by plappville(f): 2:43pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
@topic, they believe they are building it for the Kingdom of God, that why they made it unaffordable for the poor. Jesus Christ Disciples went to Private fishing universities so its very important for churches to build Universities I can see greed, pretence, wickedness in the church today. May God have merci on them. 4 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by PastorKun(m): 2:52pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
Zikkyy: The truth is that these pastors never reveal to the congregation that they intend to charge exhorbitant fees for the university they actually give an impression that the university belongs to the members. They are silent on issues such as school fees or if church members would have concessions as far as fees is concerned. That to me is what is called "obtaining by false pretense" aka 419 4 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Knight1(m): 3:44pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
Well, while it's true that These Universities are expensive, i think we ought to consider things from a broader perpective 1. The lecturers must be paid. Well paid so as to attract the best of brains 2. The infrastructure must be maintained else it you know what will happen 3. The university must sustain itself. The churches shouldn't always bail it out Its not a very desirable situation, but good education is costly; however i would expect that the church extend scholarship to deserving church members. 13 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Zikkyy(m): 4:53pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
Pastor Kun: I can't say i know the pastor's objective, so maybe it's '419' for real. But i also think it goes beyond availability of information. for example, oyedepo can stand on the pulpit today and announce that the university is broke more donations required, it's very likely some of the poor members will contribute even if they cannot afford to educate their children. Some people don't consider fees at the time they make their contribution, sometimes it's a thing of pride. i.e. "my church is establishing a school"; the congregation can claim ignorance for contributions towards the establishment of the first generation (pentecostal) church universities like covenant, but i don't think today's congregation should naturally assume that any proposed church university/school will be affordable. Not when they have the covenant experience to learn from. Pastor Kun: This is something i don't support and fully in agreement with you. pastor's should not give the impression it's a collective ownership. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by manmustwac(m): 7:52pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
Knight1: Well, while it's true that These Universities are expensive, i think we ought to consider things from a broader perpectiveYou forgot to mention number 4 which is the most important out of all them which is the church needs a return on its venture meaning the church needs to make a profit. Wasn't that the REAL reason for building the university in the first place? And by the way what happens to the huge profits the church makes from their venture? 5 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by dekung(m): 2:57am On Sep 25, 2012 |
manmustwac: You forgot to mention number 4 which is the most important out of all them which is the church needs a return on its venture meaning the church needs to make a profit. Wasn't that the REAL reason for building the university in the first place? And by the way what happens to the huge profits the church makes from their venture?They buy private jet for the Chancelor! 6 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by zeal500: 10:10am On Sep 26, 2012 |
They are building for their pocket Greedy & selfish pple who dont have a place for the poor 2 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Nobody: 10:14am On Sep 26, 2012 |
I laugh in tongues here. Shikarababa bobobob-shiere shiera, eli eli eli, ja-jasuan nu. Like Professor Wole Soyinka said, Religion is a Virus to Humanity. Aye! 2 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by dharmgrazy(f): 10:17am On Sep 26, 2012 |
abysirius: This perhaps must have crossed a lot of minds at the thought of the ridiculous tuition fees that most of these private universities (most especially churches owned schools) charge their student. Come to think of it, these schools are built with church funds yet it is only the rich, I mean 'very rich' that are only capable of sending their children to these schools. |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by tunapawizzy: 10:17am On Sep 26, 2012 |
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| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Nobody: 10:20am On Sep 26, 2012 |
Building of schools by churches was a legacy left 4 us by our colonial masters/westerners. Then,it was for the purpose of making life better,as they brought christianity alongside education.indeed,they made lyf beta.buh d prblm wit d new generation church is the purpose for building schools whch is,to maximize profit,grow rich and famous.that's d prblm-PURPOSE! 4 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Afam4eva(m): 10:22am On Sep 26, 2012 |
Church universities in the advanced world are build mainly to cater for the poor who can't afford the Exorbitant tuition being requested by the secular institutions. A case in point is the Brigham Young university that has three campuses in Idaho, Utah and Hawaii, all in the united states. Their tuition is so meager just in order for it to accommodate low income earners. But here in Nigeria, Private Christian universities are money making machine that goes out to massacre the economic well being of not just NIgerians and Christians but on their members. They charge exorbitant that only the rich can afford and they call themselves church university. Do they know that a church is a charity event? Why do they make their members pay through their teeth despite the fact that they contributed one way or the other to make this universities come to being. 3 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by dridowu: 10:26am On Sep 26, 2012 |
D simple truth is dat , most of dm ( Pastors or Alfas) are all liars, dy build dos school frm d poor people offering and dy are still collecting it till tomorrow. D poor people will have to wake up from their slumber and dy must not allow anybody(MOG) to deceive dm all in d name of God, d school are now profit making organization, 2 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by lifestyle1(m): 10:32am On Sep 26, 2012 |
The offering of the "poor" cannot build a University |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by chucky234(m): 10:33am On Sep 26, 2012 |
I always ask myself same question all the time,if the early missionaries who made it possible for Nigerians to embrace education were as greedy as the present generation I wonder what would have happened to many of us born in the 70s. Its a disturbing trend that need serious attention from the congregation,but their urge for miracles will not give the time to realise that they have been deceived by their pastors. I dont make monetary contributions in church simply because a pastor says the lord will bless me in a thousand fold,bible told us that many shall come in sheep clothing and will do things in such a way that will convince the people that they are of the lord. These churches in their quest to extort members preach nothing else than prosperity,they no longer preach about salvation or winning souls for Christ which is suppose to be our primary assignment on earth. 11 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Jyde89: 10:33am On Sep 26, 2012 |
Zikkyy:i can bet you, the motive's for building the school was not made known to the congregation before the school was built, i'm not a member of CAC or winner's chapel, but we have a similar case in the church i attend, when we wanted to build a primary school, we were all told to contribute toward's the school, now that the school is standing, it is the most expensive school in that area. All over the country the most expensive school's are the one's belonging to churche's; yet they stand on the pulpit every sunday and tell us to be cheerfull giver's, judging by their deed's, i wonder what cheerfull giving realy mean's. 5 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by mko2005: 10:34am On Sep 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:Joe only said nothing but the TRUTH ! Are the schools built to step up moral decadence or built for the poor ? Not minding who's money it was built with,as at the time of fund raising,was there an announcement promising would be investors that there kids will be given admission into the schools for no cost ?If that was the case before building and now they don't keep to their promise,God will judge them for breach of agreement of deception |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Leobreezy(m): 10:35am On Sep 26, 2012 |
I blame the members of such a church for blindly following their perfidious "shephards". Suprising still, despite their grievances with the pastors, they still congregate in the same church and PAY offering fees that disappear into "thin air" They should keep on staying there till they become penurious. 4 Likes |
| Re: Nigerian Churches: Who Are They Building Universities For? by Okijajuju1(m): 10:36am On Sep 26, 2012 |
[size=13pt]Brethren and Sistren, Please open your biblbes with me to the book of MATTHEW 12: 13 [b] And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, "It is written," he said to them, "'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a 'den of robbers.'" What we are witnessing today is that the house of God has graduated from being a house of prayers to becoming an avenue to defraud people. When they want to build these churches, they collect offerings from the congregation both rich & poor for many years and so it can be said that the they contributed to build that church.. Iya Ileke Idi that sells Pure Water at Obalende contributed to that school, Baba Bluetooth the fisherman at Makoko contributed to that school. And for them to see that school completed, and then watch the kids of only the Rich, Wealthy and well to do attend the schools their money built, I think is very very bad! Its sort of the same way that a Pastor would fly in a Gulfstream Jet with the monies he collect from his poor congregation who sometimes trek to church, give their offering and trek back home.. Anybody who dosent see this as wrong, all I can say is may you never be poor.. May you never be in the position to contribute to something and never be able to enjoy it.. Here is a price check of Private University tuitions.. (Church Unis); 1. BOWEN University owned and operated by a Baptist Convention, charges ₦650,000 as tuition fees per session. 2. COVENANT University established by Bishop Oyedepo of Winners Chapel ₦640,000 as tuition fees per session. 3. BENSON IDAHOSA University charges ₦500,000 as tuition fees per session. 4. BABCOCK University established by The Seventh Day Adventist, charges ₦450,000 as tuition fees per session. 5. REDEEMERS University owned by The Redeemed Christian Church of God , charges ₦450,000 as tuition fees per session. 6. AJAYI CROWTHER University established by The Supra diocesan board of the church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion), charges ₦350,000per session. 7. MADONNA University a Catholic University charges ₦350,000 as tuition fees per session. [/b] I wonder how many civil servants can afford these fees?! In a country where minimum wage of 18,000 naira is still hard for the government to pay?! And the government is still the highest employerof labour in this same country. I wonder how many Farmers can afford these fees?! I wonder how many Artisans can afford these fees?! Go into our villages, even those where you need a canoe to access, you will see Redeemed church there, you will see Wunners Chapel and all these other churches, those villagers also contributed in their own small way to these schools and the sad part is that while they keep praying for God to better their lot so they can afford to send their kids to these schools which their monies have built, the pastor is enjoying the proceeds from their investments.. Now I understand that University education is expensive.. Infact, I am a stong proponent for Universities to be autonomous and allowed to charge as much as is necessary for them to run, however, I also believe in Merit scholarship, partial scholarships and stuffs like that.. The churches dont even offer any sort of scholarship scheme for the less privileged members.. And the amazing part is that the members themselves see nothing wrong in this o!! But the day the government increases a state university tuition fee from 50 thousand to 75 thousand, see them rioting and carrying placards.. P.S: The two cheapest private schools on that list are Anglican and Catholic universities.. [/size] 38 Likes |
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