Ndu_Chuks is no confused man . . . He does not dispute the fact that the trend he pointed out in his Original Post could be present in the Northern or Western Leadership cycle. . . He is only interested in identifying with the East for reasons best known to him . . . His attacker on this thread should see beyond blind ethnic interest and give the thread the direction and seriousness it deserves.

sheyguy: Ndu_Chuks is no confused man . . . He does not dispute the fact that the trend he pointed out in his Original Post could be present in the Northern or Western Leadership cycle. . . He is only interested in identifying with the East for reasons best known to him . . . His attacker on this thread should see beyond blind ethnic interest and give the thread the direction and seriousness it deserves.

look who is talking.

asha 80: look who is talking.

ha ha ha ha . . . . Do u av any problem with my post?

sheyguy:
ha ha ha ha . . . . Do u av any problem with my post?

i have problem with trolls

ndu_chucks:

olodo, I am talking about Igbo people born and bred in the North. Stop trying to change my topic. Go and open your own thread if you want to examine issues affecting the Northern region.

Slice it anyhow, your post carries a badge of tribalism. Why Igbo and not others? Why not Fulani should look towards the East to raise competent and sympathetic leaders? What's in the East that diminishes leadership qualities that is not found in other parts of the country or anywhere in the world? You seem to project an image of a "detribalised" fellow but right within you is a man of unbelievable nepotism suffering from superiority complex. Change your ways!

asha 80:

i have problem with trolls

Trolls?? No NL user with that ID bro . . .

bayooooooo:

Slice it anyhow, your post carries a badge of tribalism. Why Igbo and not others? Why not Fulani should look towards the East to raise competent and sympathetic leaders? What's in the East that diminishes leadership qualities that is not found in other parts of the country or anywhere in the world? You seem to project an image of a "detribalised" fellow but right within you is a man of unbelievable nepotism suffering from superiority complex. Change your ways!

Succinct and to the point! Nothing left to say.

sheyguy: Ndu_Chuks is no confused man . . . He does not dispute the fact that the trend he pointed out in his Original Post could be present in the Northern or Western Leadership cycle. . . He is only interested in identifying with the East for reasons best known to him . . . His attacker on this thread should see beyond blind ethnic interest and give the thread the direction and seriousness it deserves.

You are even speaking for him. Why don't I believe you are a far worse bigot than Ndu_Chuks? Guess what, you are not smart, as even a baby can see thru you.

I believe that the state the igbo find themselves today was caused by having leaders who where born and bred outside igboland lead us at a crucial time of our history.

Zik northern birth and western influence, influenced his 'efulefusm'

Ojukwu's northern birth and western influence made him see the match to lagos differently, he tagged the yorubas as friends. An igbo leader born and breed in igboland ( orji uzor kalu comes to mind) wouldn't have handed that mission to banjo,he would have approached that mission differently.

I think,we should never allow people not born in igboland to lead us again,there must be a reason why americans don't allow citizens not born in USA to lead them.

You can find a good or bad Igbo in any and every region of Nigeria. Trying to confine ourselves to finding a true Igbo leader who can bring successes to that region with prerequisites such as being native born and bred in Igboland only limits Igbos in my opinion. Limiting it to Nigerian-born candidates, or people with a certain amount of consecutive residency is understandable, but when we start picking regions, it starts sounding ridiculous.

It's comparible to how there are people in Igboland who can't read or understand Igbo, and there are Igbos born and raised in other regions of Nigeria or even abroad, who can read and write the language. Where you were raised doesn't necessarily dictate how "Igbo" one is nor does it measure success for a potential Igbo leader. What we need is a person, or people, with the right qualities, ideas, and a solid track record as affirmation as to how they can perform in the future.

pazienza: I believe that the state the igbo find themselves today was caused by having leaders who where born and breed outside igboland lead us at a crucial time of our history.

Zik northern birth and western influence, influenced his 'efulefusm'

Ojukwu's northern birth and western influence made him see the match to lagos differently, he tagged the yorubas as friends. An igbo leader born and breed in igboland ( orji uzor kalu comes to mind) wouldn't have handed that mission to banjo,he would have approached that mission differently.

I think,we should never allow people not born in igboland to lead us again,there must be a reason why americans don't allow citizens not born in USA to lead them.

Some truth, that; after all many of the Igbos outside Igboland have no political stake in Igboland until they return.

bayooooooo:

Slice it anyhow, your post carries a badge of tribalism. Why Igbo and not others? Why not Fulani should look towards the East to raise competent and sympathetic leaders? What's in the East that diminishes leadership qualities that is not found in other parts of the country or anywhere in the world? You seem to project an image of a "detribalised" fellow but right within you is a man of unbelievable nepotism suffering from superiority complex. Change your ways!

Eeeyah, I think I hurt your soft feelings some 10 posts ago when I called you olodo and told you to ignore the thread if you cannot face the issue I raised. Issokay no vex, I thought you had a thicker skin than this. Bright men are not unnecessary emotional to the point that they prefer to discuss personalities rather than issues.

I see that your effeminate emotionalism also turned you into a shrink hence you were able to conclude from a few post that ndu_chucks is man of unbelievable nepotism suffering from superiority complex.

nwanne, I repeat, no one will force you to participate in the thread and if you are not emotionally balanced enough to address issues without being bent out of shape, please stay away from the thread. One would hope you were not crying when you made your last post. Pele o, ndo.

pazienza:
Ojukwu's northern birth and western influence made him see the match to lagos differently, he tagged the yorubas as friends. An igbo leader born and breed in igboland ( orji uzor kalu comes to mind) wouldn't have handed that mission to banjo,he would have approached that mission differently.

I think,we should never allow people not born in igboland to lead us again,there must be a reason why americans don't allow citizens not born in USA to lead them.

Well someone has a different perspective without throwing tantrums or feeling that the OP attacked ndiigbo. You must be one of the few mature Igbo boys here. I'd however warn you to be careful pointing out some of the blunders of Ojukwu's because you are likely to be insulted and called a traitor, efulefu, and other weird names.

I kind of disagree with some of your statements. The vast majority of the Igbo leaders of today whose perpectives and experiences are limited to ala Igbo have failed abbysmally and continue to do so. A quick review of the governors in ala igbo from the current and lest 4 election cycles will not support your stance. There are tons of other examples.

@ OP
Well done!
U've succeeded in driving up traffic to the site.
Can u now buzz off!

ndu_chucks:

Eeeyah, I think I hurt your soft feelings some 10 posts ago when I called you olodo and told you to ignore the thread if you cannot face the issue I raised. Issokay no vex, I thought you had a thicker skin than this. Bright men are not unnecessary emotional to the point that they prefer to discuss personalities rather than issues.

I see that your effeminate emotionalism also turned you into a shrink hence you were able to conclude from a few post that ndu_chucks is man of unbelievable nepotism suffering from superiority complex.

nwanne, I repeat, no one will force you to participate in the thread and if you are not emotionally balanced enough to address issues without being bent out of shape, please stay away from the thread. One would hope you were not crying when you made your last post. Pele o, ndo.

I have got no time for a confirmed retard like you. Arguing with you back and forth is arguing with a plank of tree, a sheer waste of time. How can a primitive Ndu_chucks understands a post modern Bayooooooo? Don't be a coward, be a tribalist and be proud of it. Gaskia!

bayooooooo:

I have got no time for a confirmed retard like you. Arguing with you back and forth is arguing with a plank of tree, a sheer waste of time. How can a primitive Ndu_chucks understands a post modern Bayooooooo? Don't be a coward, be a tribalist and be proud of it. Gaskia!

Discuss issues instead of anonymous personalities. Take this away from the thread. You may be post modern Bayooooooo but I think you are still not well-formed in the emotional IQ area. That one no be your fault sha, sebi you had no say in the composition of your DNA.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with tribalism (assuming you know what it means), bigotry is what we all must condemn.

ogugua88: You can find a good or bad Igbo in any and every region of Nigeria. Trying to confine ourselves to finding a true Igbo leader who can bring successes to that region with prerequisites such as being native born and bred in Igboland only limits Igbos in my opinion. Limiting it to Nigerian-born candidates, or people with a certain amount of consecutive residency is understandable, but when we start picking regions, it starts sounding ridiculous.

It's comparible to how there are people in Igboland who can't read or understand Igbo, and there are Igbos born and raised in other regions of Nigeria or even abroad, who can read and write the language. Where you were raised doesn't necessarily dictate how "Igbo" one is nor does it measure success for a potential Igbo leader. What we need is a person, or people, with the right qualities, ideas, and a solid track record as affirmation as to how they can perform in the future.

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