mkmyers45:
Fourth Bolded: God is asking devil to use the power he stole from God [/b]

god gave satan permission, not what you put up there..... the sons of God gathered and satan was present doesnt mean he is a son of God

Maria-G:
god gave satan permission, not what you put up there..... the sons of God gathered and satan was present doesnt mean he is a son of God

Dont generalize the case of Job .. Because it happen to him does not mean that's what is obtainable

free2ryhme:

Dont generalize the case of Job .. Because it happen to him does not mean that's what is obtainable

thats whats obtainable... God doesnt let anybody touch his children without his permission

Maria-G:
god gave satan permission, not what you put up there..... the sons of God gathered and satan was present doesnt mean he is a son of God

Wetin? So gods arch-enemy can just enter heaven and be chatting with god abi? WTF? Are you joking? Is that not the bible?

mkmyers45:

Wetin? So gods arch-enemy can just enter heaven and be chatting with god abi? WTF? Are you joking? Is that not the bible?

is satan one of the heavenly beings?....and moreover, that was your assumption...it said, the hevenlybeings gathered and satan was among them

Maria-G:
thats whats obtainable... God doesn't let anybody touch his children without his permission

pls can you expatiate on "....God doesn't let anybody touch his children without his permission"

Maria-G:
is satan one of the heavenly bodies?

I dont get your question...Kindly re-phrase

Is he a son of God? Yes...cos he was indeed created of God

mkmyers45:

I dont get your question...Kindly re-phrase

Is he a son of God? Yes...cos he was indeed created of God

then that explains why he can move about and even have talks with God

free2ryhme:




pls can you expatiate on "....God doesn't let anybody touch his children without his permission"

I have been doing that from the begining of this thread, you might want to start all over again....

Maria-G:
I have been doing that from the begining of this thread, you might want to start all over again....

well your views are your views .. however my opinion differs and i think i will let it stay that way

free2ryhme:


well your views are your views .. however my opinion differs and i think i will let it stay that way

lets hear it...we might learn one or two things from it.

So now, as a true christian, just like the girl in the story, what would have been your choice of action?....the girl decided to be a love-peddler...is that the right choice?

Maria-G:
then that explains why he can move about and even have talks with God

I dey laugh oo...So God and his son Devil just sit in heaven,chat and bet on human souls?

Cool.....

Maria-G:
So now, as a true christian, just like the girl in the story, what would have been your choice of action?....the girl decided to be a love-peddler...is that the right choice?

What would you have done?

mkmyers45:


I dey laugh oo...So God and his son Devil just sit in heaven,chat and bet on human souls?

Cool.....

lol, were you not the person who said he is God's son? Do you even know the origin of satan?

Maria-G:
lol, were you not the person who said he is God's son? Do you even know the origin of satan?

Tell me the origin of satan and who were the sons of GOD that were meeting with God....

Maria-G:
lets hear it...we might learn one or two things from it.

what makes you think because God allowed the devil in the case of Job in the bible is God standard practice with the devil? Job was a case study not a generalization.. Do you think God negotiates with the devil?


God is God .. He cannot be boxed.. he creat the rules if He likes He can do His things outside His rules.

mkmyers45:

What would you have done?

talking about my beleif, I beleive that in whatever situation I am, that God knows about it, even the one I am in right now......when I look back at the lives of our early ancestors and the lives of saints, I also see that they went through difficulties too, mine aint different...just like the saint I bear her name, Saint Maria-Goretti. So, I will call on God...of course I am human, sometimes I will get frustrated, but I will never ask God why....my prayer will be, God, I know you not a dead God and you see everything, know everything, I put this situation in your hands, may your will be done in my life forever.......and it aint easier said than done cus am in a situation far bigger than rape...


Your turn.

Maria-G:
talking about my beleif, I beleive that in whatever situation I am, that God knows about it, even the one I am in right now......when I look back at the lives of our early ancestors and the lives of saints, I also see that they went through difficulties too, mine aint different...just like the saint I bear her name, Saint Maria-Goretti. So, I will call on God...of course I am human, sometimes I will get frustrated, but I will never ask God why....my prayer will be, God, I know you not a dead God and you see everything, know everything, I put this situation in your hands, may your will be done in my life forever.......and it aint easier said than done cus am in a situation far bigger than rape...


Your turn.

Answer this first:

mkmyers45:

Tell me the origin of satan and who were the sons of GOD that were meeting with God....

free2ryhme: He can do His things outside His rules.

even giving devil permission to tempt....we still saying same thing

Dont worry about that... I will give you full dose of that. Lets be through with the topic first....so answer

Maria-G:
Dont worry about that... I will give you full dose of that. Lets be through with the topic first....so answer

A sensible human will forge ahead with life (it will be painful) but life goes on...At the end of the day she has choices to make but living off a good life matters...

Now answer

mkmyers45:

A sensible human will forge ahead with life (it will be painful) but life goes on...At the end of the day she has choices to make but living off a good life matters...

Now answer

are you not a true son of God?

Maria-G:
are you not a true son of God?

I dont know....I am waiting for you definitions of who are the sons of God and the origin of satan.

mkmyers45:

I dont know....I am waiting for you definitions of who are the sons of God and the origin of satan.

ok, let me rephrase, dont you beleive in God and his teachings?

Maria-G:
ok, let me rephrase, dont you beleive in God and his teachings?

Which God please?

mkmyers45:

Which God please?

which one do you know?

Maria-G:
even giving devil permission to tempt....we still saying same thing

Does it make it a general rule?

free2ryhme:

Does it make it a general rule?

for those he chose to boast about to the devil....just like Job

Maria-G:
for those he chose to boast about to the devil....just like Job

my sister you are getting it twisted... God is a God of grace ... Grace is free for Children born of spirit and water... because there was a dialogue btw God and devil in the case of Job doesn't mean God will dialogue with the devil in other situations. he can chose not to out-rightly.. That is my position

free2ryhme:

my sister you are getting it twisted... God is a God of grace ... Grace is free for Children born of spirit and water... because there was a dialogue btw God and devil in the case of Job doesn't mean God will dialogue with the devil in other situations. he can chose not to out-rightly.. That is my position

i get it....we still saying same thing... God can choose to or not to do some things; he is God, he can do whatever he likes

God and satan won't have such conversations again as satan has been ousted from heaven(hence no more access for him). For the girl in the story, she chose revenge. Well, the thing is, if you go ahead with your own plan of revenge, things could go wrong. We're imperfect humans who can't even direct our own steps