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Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by henrychubayo: 8:55pm On Sep 30, 2012
If i can remember correctly, this is the way sudan used to split their country. It will reach a stage in which a region will seek opportunity to vote to stay with nigeria or not. Is just the easy way to break away and without firing a single gun shot. But nevertheless, its a good call especially now.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by fortyfeet(m): 9:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
doctokwus:
My guy I wudnt fashy d thing.So tell me,how do u appoint true representatives of d pple,just think& tell me d criteria dat shd b used in a country where ordinary elections are based on ur pocket's ability to outrig ur opponent.Den what do u do wt d present NASS,corrupt as dey are,who can dissolve dem,GEJ,u or I.D ironic thing is dat GEJ is d least competent person to accede or understand wat a SNC entails.So I won't fashy what I know is blowing thick air
Perssimism
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by ektbear: 9:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
Interesting development.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by takedat(m): 9:04pm On Sep 30, 2012
In as much as this is what we all crave for but its most likely going to be an exercise in futility.Reasons are:
1.National Assembly which is saddled with the responsibility of making laws will frustrate this attempt with the excuse that the Confab is ursuping their duty.
2.Government will invoke clauses or No Go Areas.
3.The same old politicians who brought us to this critical state are still going to be our representatives there.
4.The Ethnic nationalities will never reach a compromise.
5.We already have the PRONACO and NPRC reports.The government can save money by utilizing those reports.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by doctokwus: 9:06pm On Sep 30, 2012
Sky Blue:

But in the same vein your argument backfires. You already accept that NASS isn't perfect, but then who chooses the credibility of your 'independent inputs' in your proposal? To be honest the closer to the grass roots the better. I would prefer if state houses thrash out this issue and report to the centre than leaving this for NASS, and even that would not quite satisfy me because it is mstill the same questionable system. What we can do is just go old skool, town hall and village meetings across all states over a period of time to discuss certain issues, referendum around certain issues on the outcome of meetings, and we go from there.
U failed to address my argument which is d fundamental basis of a SNC:if u say u wudnt use a subsisting NASS,how do u elect d pple to debate in dis SNC;who chooses d topics to b discussed or will there b no-go areas;what do u now do wt d present NASS,in otherwords,what will b its role.I agree d NASS as we av it is flawed in structure,personel& inputs,but what is good for d goose is good for d gender,i.e,d presidency as presently constituted is also flawed using d same parameters;so if u bye-pass d NASS,u also av to bye-pass d presidency
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Nobody: 9:10pm On Sep 30, 2012
Another quantum waste of time Ǎ̜̣̍Ϟd resources.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by SkyBlue1: 9:11pm On Sep 30, 2012
doctokwus:
U failed to address my argument which is d fundamental basis of a SNC:if u say u wudnt use a subsisting NASS,how do u elect d pple to debate in dis SNC;who chooses d topics to b discussed or will there b no-go areas;what do u now do wt d present NASS,in otherwords,what will b its role.I agree d NASS as we av it is flawed in structure,personel& inputs,but what is good for d goose is good for d gender,i.e,d presidency as presently constituted is also flawed using d same parameters;so if u bye-pass d NASS,u also av to bye-pass d presidency

Read my last post to you again then get back to me, because it is obvious you didn't read it. And just to add to the side, what has been stopping NASS from debating these issues since? Sing another tune please. This is not about trying to make sure NASS saves face, there are more important things.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by lekanwj(m): 9:14pm On Sep 30, 2012
If this is true then we are begining to see the end to our nations problem. I just hope that the people that are going to handle it will be sincere enough to deliver genuine result.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by ACM10: 9:15pm On Sep 30, 2012
Any SNC in which government declares the unity of Nigeria non-negotiable is a non-starter. No need to convene such conference charade.

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Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by gbadexy(m): 9:15pm On Sep 30, 2012
I was initially excited but when I saw that the whole exercise would end up at the national assembly, I was like what is the purpose of the six months exercise? Why cant our representatives simply raise the issue on the floor and have a debate that would equally hold as if the report of the confab was submitted to them.
The confab is DOA and the regions scared of a true federalism or dissolution of this entity would make sure the status quo is retained.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by fortyfeet(m): 9:16pm On Sep 30, 2012
take dat: In as much as this is what we all crave for but its most likely going to be an exercise in futility.Reasons are:
1.National Assembly which is saddled with the responsibility of making laws will frustrate this attempt with the excuse that the Confab is ursuping their duty.
2.Government will invoke clauses or No Go Areas.
3.The same old politicians who brought us to this critical state are still going to be our representatives there.
4.The Ethnic nationalities will never reach a compromise.
5.We already have the PRONACO and NPRC reports.The government can save money by utilizing those reports.
Acrimony!
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Dejiro(m): 9:18pm On Sep 30, 2012
"It was also learnt that the outcome of the planned confab would be handed over to the National Assembly"

Did you guys see this part of the statement?
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Orblonde: 9:19pm On Sep 30, 2012
Don't fall for some watered down conference with corrupt elites with obvious corrupt self interests sharing it. Just use the Aburi accord as a template to work from and we'll make some progress.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Nobody: 9:21pm On Sep 30, 2012
Is this not the very Nairaland that every Prick and Harry always wanted a Sovereign Nation Conference to help you 'separate' Nigeria and form different countries ? Now all of you have started dancing Azonto with your opinions again. Come out and "Divide".

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Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by fortyfeet(m): 9:22pm On Sep 30, 2012
gbadexy: I was initially excited but when I saw that the whole exercise would end up at the national assembly, I was like what is the purpose of the six months exercise? Why cant our representatives simply raise the issue on the floor and have a debate that would equally hold as if the report of the confab was submitted to them.
The confab is DOA and the regions scared of a true federalism or dissolution of this entity would make sure the status quo is retained.
Cynicism!
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Nightshift(m): 9:23pm On Sep 30, 2012
The most important question is: are the ethnic nationalities that make up the present Nigeria interested and committed to remain in Nigeria? Historically, a large forced political union like ours has never survived the test of time anywhere in the world. The continued attitude of apathy to a sovereign national conference without no-go areas, by Nigeria's political elites is detrimental to the survival of the present Nigeria . A stitch in time saves nine..
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by supereagle(m): 9:25pm On Sep 30, 2012
This shows that GEJ has interest of Nigerians at heart.He is a listening president.OBJ avoided this when he was in power.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by gbadexy(m): 9:35pm On Sep 30, 2012
henrychubayo: If i can remember correctly, this is the way sudan used to split their country. It will reach a stage in which a region will seek opportunity to vote to stay with nigeria or not. Is just the easy way to break away and without firing a single gun shot. But nevertheless, its a good call especially now.
I suppose that was referendum and it U.N was involved.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by fortyfeet(m): 9:38pm On Sep 30, 2012
abifoluwa: ta, dey dere now dey deceive ya self.......
What is this? You speak a language I don't understand in my issue. This is a criminal offence. Seun, you must as a matter of urgency create an e-court for issues like this. Hurrry! Can't wait to sue this man.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by tnktosin(m): 9:38pm On Sep 30, 2012
Dis is Nigeria, I try not to get my hopes high. Still haven't gotten over d Farouk thing. They always seem to have a hidden agenda. Goodluck to us.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by noeloge: 9:58pm On Sep 30, 2012
GOOD idea but I hope this is not a way of wasting tax payers money on sitting allowances & some other jumbo pays as allowance cos d problem with. Nigeria democracy is good ideas very poor implementations
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by onatisi(m): 10:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
tnktosin: Dis is Nigeria, I try not to get my hopes high. Still haven't gotten over d Farouk thing. They always seem to have a hidden agenda. Goodluck to us.
my guy forget this yeye conference,all na game,u will see,the real picture will soon unfold dont be surprised if the real deal is for 2015.abacha did his own,obj,now gej.never believe a nigerian politician.do u think gej will take an issue like this up with just 2years to election?everything they will do and accomplished through this game and yeye conference has already been planned and workedout .
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by IYANGBALI: 10:04pm On Sep 30, 2012
na today?story story,abeg make we heard jare
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by nagoma(m): 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2012
mymadam: A National Conference on its own will turn out to be a super exercise in futility and a possible criminal waste of tax-payers' money. The National Assembly, being the 'representatives of the Nigerian people' tongue can handle that. What Nigerians want and deserve is a SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE, without no-go areas. The difference is clear. Well, we are waiting & watching. God bless Nigeria.

Agreed with you National conference and even Sovereign National Conference will be a futile exercise. What Jonathan needs to do is to have a committee to map out the geographical line of dividing the country and present a time table for the division in peace. These conferences will just inflame feelings and will cause more anger and animosity . Let's just go our ways. No to conferences , they are a waste of time.

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Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by emabe: 10:36pm On Sep 30, 2012
So wat. Even IBB (d maradona) held sovereign national conference and we all know what good it did Nigeria (nothing). So I ask u guys, so what if GEJ ones to hold one. Looks as much as it is a very good idea. As much as it may open room and space 4 brilliant minds 2 have their. We all know it would all be a waste of precious time and money if things discussed there don't help policy makers do their jobs better or help d government implement better things for the good of d country. Look d end is what matters not d beginning.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by fortyfeet(m): 10:37pm On Sep 30, 2012
IYA NGBALI: na today?story story,abeg make we heard jare
IYA NGBALI: na today?story story,abeg make we heard jare
IYA NGBALI: na today?story story,abeg make we heard jare
Abeg, make we hear jare
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by azimibraun: 10:42pm On Sep 30, 2012
Diversionary tactics aka Decoy frm a failed shoeless and bagless nigga.
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by samkoro: 10:46pm On Sep 30, 2012
koruji: President GEJ neither has the drive or intellectual background (sorry but this is true) to mid-wife a re-structuring of the Nigerian nation.

He can still achieve it if he stops the selfish, self-preserving and deceitful approach to national issues. He must, however, put the actual work in the hands of people that really have insights into the history of this crookedly constructed nation, and know the sound elements of a potentially great nation.

The man has been a great disappointment in so many areas to be trusted with such a delicate task. So, don't get your hopes up, please.

What's more, the man is likely to simply take the report and dump it on the shelves - can anyone say "Electoral Reform Panel" report?

That is the modus operandi of Nigerian governments in the past, and that is the same with President GEJ.

The beautiful ones are not yet born or in Nigeria's case the birth of the beautiful ones is met with the Herod response to the news of Jesus birth!!!

Some people just don't know when,what and who to criricise.When GEJ hasn't approved,the conference,u criticised,now he approves it and u are still criticising.Are u under spell to criticise everything?

The success and failure of the conference depends on those thugs and crroks u call senators and honourables at the senate and house of rep
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by swoosh(m): 10:50pm On Sep 30, 2012
Waste of Time and money. The same old idiots who have run this country down will come and talk nonsense about what should or should not be. Its just gonna be another jamboree- nothing meaningful's gonna come out it. Jonathan doesnt apear to have priorities thats why he caves into cheap pressures. I weep for my dear Nigeria
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Nobody: 10:51pm On Sep 30, 2012
take dat: In as much as this is what we all crave for but its most likely going to be an exercise in futility.Reasons are:
1.National Assembly which is saddled with the responsibility of making laws will frustrate this attempt with the excuse that the Confab is ursuping their duty.
2.Government will invoke clauses or No Go Areas.
3.The same old politicians who brought us to this critical state are still going to be our representatives there.
4.The Ethnic nationalities will never reach a compromise.
5.We already have the PRONACO and NPRC reports.The government can save money by utilizing those reports.
i totally agree to that
Re: Jonathan Okays Sovereign National Conference, SNC To Take Off Next Year by Jamji: 11:00pm On Sep 30, 2012
why next year? this is something that needs to be done asap

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