This came as a shock-for the first few seconds. I'm not neurotically wedded to mainstream orthodoxies. From the founding of America to the abolition of slavery in the 1860s the majority of slaves were white.

Up to one-half of all the arrivals in the American colonies were Whites slaves and they were America's first slaves-ever since James 2 sold 30,000 Irish prisoners. These Whites were slaves for life, long before Blacks ever were. This slavery was even hereditary. White children born to White slaves were enslaved to

http://karanjazplace..com/2012/10/slavery-wasnt-black-thing.html
In fact,the white slaves,mainly Irish,were less valued than their black brethren in bondage.

"Oh," said the worker, "the niggers are worth too much to be risked here; if the Paddies are knocked overboard or get their backs broke, nobody loses anything."

I have seen it written here that AAs carry way too much historical baggage and revel in monotonous monochromatic narratives of centuries of captive trauma and suffering. Its time to reexamine those stories and investigate those who would have us believe AAs hold exclusive victims rights as slaves.

This is interesting.

I wonder why I have not read this is any history book. Nevertheless, to me, it is unimaginable, what kind of mind must be present for humans to enslave their own. So this, an African slavery, is detestable. I do wonder though, why the emphasis of this specific happening is not as well-spread as African slavery. Maybe it is so that they are even more ashamed of enslaving their own people?

whats wrong with u negroids?

You people are obsessed with slavery.

Much of the slave trade has been hidden from history for not being politically correct. NAACP doesn't want it known that up to 10% of slave owners in virgins were black. No one talks about coffin ships. Nina signs. Arab, Chinese, native American or Irish slaves. Noone wants to talk about breeding programs (Irish female slave forced bred both black and Arab slaves to create more valuable dark skin slaves) black slaves were a status symbol while Irish and Chinese were disposable. The population of Ireland was wiped by 50% in 11 years due to the salve trade. There is a great article written some time ago called "slaves that time forgot" that speaks indepth on this matter

White slaves were also brought to Africa for trade

^^^ true.

especially where my roots are (in the caribbean) the diversity
though a positive thing today, came to be in very inhumane ways.

blacks werent the only "victims".
(though we and the natives did suffer the most)...

navygrl: http://www.google.com/gwt/x?gl=US&hl=en-US&u=http://afgen.com/forgotten_slaves.html&q=slaves+that+time+forgot&sa=X&ei=A2F1UN7vJomQ0QHbgYEg&ved=0CBoQFjAA

This is really an eyes opener.

navygrl: Much of the slave trade has been hidden from history for not being politically correct. NAACP doesn't want it known that up to 10% of slave owners in virgins were black. No one talks about coffin ships. Nina signs. Arab, Chinese, native American or Irish slaves. Noone wants to talk about breeding programs (Irish female slave forced bred both black and Arab slaves to create more valuable dark skin slaves) black slaves were a status symbol while Irish and Chinese were disposable. The population of Ireland was wiped by 50% in 11 years due to the salve trade. There is a great article written some time ago called "slaves that time forgot" that speaks indepth on this matter

Exactly! Why do you think that is? Why do certain quarters insist the only heritage of the AA is slavery? Why don't the Irish,who suffered more if not equally,(see there mortality rates on the link), wallow in such self defeating melancholy?
Why does a specific population group identify mass slavery as their defining collective experience?

Salinger reports a death rate of ten to twenty percent over the entire 18th century for Black slaves on board ships enroute to America compared with a death rate of 25% for White slaves enroute to America.

http://karanjazplace..com/2012/10/slavery-wasnt-black-thing.html

kikuyu1:
Exactly! Why do you think that is? Why do certain quarters insist the only heritage of the AA is slavery? Why don't the Irish,who suffered more if not equally,(see there mortality rates on the link), wallow in such self defeating melancholy?
Why does a specific population group identify mass slavery as their defining collective experience?

http://karanjazplace..com/2012/10/slavery-wasnt-black-thing.html

same reason they don't wallow in the fact till the 1940s they bhad trouble finding jobs and housing even shopping dude to Nina or the Irish holocaust (potatoes famine - British confiscated all other food products in Ireland at that time). They use it to pull strength from. Something to say look at what we overcame. Still alot of anti Irish racism in Europe and US. Why dwell on it. just use it as something to be proud of overcoming

navygrl: same reason they don't wallow in the fact till the 1940s they bhad trouble finding jobs and housing even shopping dude to Nina or the Irish holocaust (potatoes famine - British confiscated all other food products in Ireland at that time). They use it to pull strength from. Something to say look at what we overcame. Still alot of anti Irish racism in Europe and US. Why dwell on it. just use it as something to be proud of overcoming

That's why I have no time for the 'reparations debate!' Self interested opinion leaders with a emotional headlock over their people,reinforcing false histories. We all need to move on.

teemola:

This is really an eyes opener.

most whites will not admit it despite
genetics, historical documentation, etc
saying otherwise.

the only reason blacks were in demand was because
west and central african men have stronger builds.
but prior to the african slave trade, whites (certain ethnicities) were
considered to be the inferior race. (whatever that means)

Everytime I try to tell this to people, they tell me I am crazy, its not the same, etc, etc.

Irish people STILL have racism on them, mostly from UK-people. Not half as bad as it used to be, but its there.
Not to mention all the white jews who were killed and used in scientific testings during WW2..the women and kids would most of the time be killed very soon after reaching the camps, while the men would be sendt to do work, to be cut open with no pain-killers. Skin was cut off while they where alive, and used for lamps, couches and chairs. Their hair was stuffed inside pillows.

How people are able to have such evil in them, is not something I will ever be able to understand. How you can feel good pushing someone down physically and mentally is for me..no. I can`t wrap my head around it, at all.

kikuyu1: This came as a shock-for the first few seconds. I'm not neurotically wedded to mainstream orthodoxies. From the founding of America to the abolition of slavery in the 1860s the majority of slaves were white.

http://karanjazplace..com/2012/10/slavery-wasnt-black-thing.html
In fact,the white slaves,mainly Irish,were less valued than their black brethren in bondage.

I have seen it written here that AAs carry way too much historical baggage and revel in monotonous monochromatic narratives of centuries of captive trauma and suffering. Its time to reexamine those stories and investigate those who would have us believe AAs hold exclusive victims rights as slaves.

THEY HAD WHITE SKIN BUT THEY WERE REALLY BLACK PEOPLE. THEY WERE FULFILLING THE DEUT 28 VS 68 PROPHESY. THEY ARE WHAT IS CALLED 'CONFUSION OF FACES'. READ ABOUT THE BLACK IRISH. IRELAND WAS A BLACK COUNTRY AS WELL AS ALL OF EUROPE UP UP UNTILL THEY GOT KICKED OUT IN THE EUROPEAN RENNAISANCE ERA

obadiah777: THEY HAD WHITE SKIN BUT THEY WERE REALLY BLACK PEOPLE. THEY WERE FULFILLING THE DEUT 28 VS 68 PROPHESY. THEY ARE WHAT IS CALLED 'CONFUSION OF FACES'. READ ABOUT THE BLACK IRISH. IRELAND WAS A BLACK COUNTRY AS WELL AS ALL OF EUROPE UP UP UNTILL THEY GOT KICKED OUT IN THE EUROPEAN RENNAISANCE ERA

Say what now? Irish were really black?

We all came from Africa at some point, so I can say that I am "really" black as well.

Vikings of Scandinavia tortured their way through many countries, took slaves..as far as I know, they were white a well.

U sure say no be dem descendants full bonny?
Cos all doz bonny ppl dey answer oyibo names.....doz kind briggs, braide, halliday!

JallowBah:

Say what now? Irish were really black?

We all came from Africa at some point, so I can say that I am "really" black as well.

Vikings of Scandinavia tortured their way through many countries, took slaves..as far as I know, they were white a well.

YES BUT IRISH PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY, ARE BLACK PEOPLE. YOUR SEED IS DETERMINED BY YOUR FATHER. THE WOMB IS SIMPLY THE PLACE WHERE THE SEED FEEDS AND GROWS. IRELAND WAS ONE OF THE HEADQUARTERS OF BLACK EUROPE AND THE BLACKS THERE WERE CIVILIZING THE WHITES WHO HAD JUST COME OUT OF THE CAUCASUS CAVES DURING THE DARK AGES. HOWEVER IT WAS LOTS OF INTERMINGLING AND EVENTUALLY DURING THE EUROPEAN RENNAISANCE WHEN THE ROMAN EMPIRE RETOOK EUROPE FROM THE BLACK MOORS, ALL THE BLACKS WERE KICKED OUT AND THEN IRELAND THROUGH BREEDING AND BREEDING BECAME WHITE AGAIN. HOWEVER THEY ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN WHITE SKIN. THE REAL WHITE PEOPLE KNEW THAT. THATS WHY THEY HATED THE IRISH. ITS LIKE A BLACK MAN MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN. HALF CASTE KID MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN THE KID IS ALMOST WHITE AND THEN THE KID MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN ? IN 3 GENERATIONS THEY BECOME WHITE AGAIN.

somalia5: whats wrong with u negroids?

You people are obsessed with slavery.

You are enslaved to yourself.And that is the most unpardonable slavery.

WTF is this?


I see people talkingabout white slavery on a Nigerian site as if Nigerians were buying white slaves?


Is this some kind of slavery apologist thingy to suppress the evil of the enslavement of blacks or African slavery?


Yes, Irish were enslaved. Very common knowledge if you bothered to read history. No one is denying that but of what relevance is this to a Nigerian site?

navygrl: White slaves were also brought to Africa for trade

negroid roots of ireland http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/1586

http://www.ipoaa.com/black_people_early_britain_europe.htm

obadiah777: YES BUT IRISH PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY, ARE BLACK PEOPLE. YOUR SEED IS DETERMINED BY YOUR FATHER. THE WOMB IS SIMPLY THE PLACE WHERE THE SEED FEEDS AND GROWS. IRELAND WAS ONE OF THE HEADQUARTERS OF BLACK EUROPE AND THE BLACKS THERE WERE CIVILIZING THE WHITES WHO HAD JUST COME OUT OF THE CAUCASUS CAVES DURING THE DARK AGES. HOWEVER IT WAS LOTS OF INTERMINGLING AND EVENTUALLY DURING THE EUROPEAN RENNAISANCE WHEN THE ROMAN EMPIRE RETOOK EUROPE FROM THE BLACK MOORS, ALL THE BLACKS WERE KICKED OUT AND THEN IRELAND THROUGH BREEDING AND BREEDING BECAME WHITE AGAIN. HOWEVER THEY ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN WHITE SKIN. THE REAL WHITE PEOPLE KNEW THAT. THATS WHY THEY HATED THE IRISH. ITS LIKE A BLACK MAN MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN. HALF CASTE KID MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN THE KID IS ALMOST WHITE AND THEN THE KID MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN ? IN 3 GENERATIONS THEY BECOME WHITE AGAIN.

So, in your logic, I can run around and tell people I am NOT white, I am actually black?

Logicboy03: WTF is this?


I see people talkingabout white slavery on a Nigerian site as if Nigerians were buying white slaves?


Is this some kind of slavery apologist thingy to suppress the evil of the enslavement of blacks or African slavery?


Yes, Irish were enslaved. Very common knowledge if you bothered to read history. No one is denying that but of what relevance is this to a Nigerian site?

You can ask even what relevance a topic about a cheating husband is to a naija-site as well. People have different interests, and there is nothing wrong with learning something new

obadiah777: YES BUT IRISH PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY, ARE BLACK PEOPLE. YOUR SEED IS DETERMINED BY YOUR FATHER. THE WOMB IS SIMPLY THE PLACE WHERE THE SEED FEEDS AND GROWS. IRELAND WAS ONE OF THE HEADQUARTERS OF BLACK EUROPE AND THE BLACKS THERE WERE CIVILIZING THE WHITES WHO HAD JUST COME OUT OF THE CAUCASUS CAVES DURING THE DARK AGES. HOWEVER IT WAS LOTS OF INTERMINGLING AND EVENTUALLY DURING THE EUROPEAN RENNAISANCE WHEN THE ROMAN EMPIRE RETOOK EUROPE FROM THE BLACK MOORS, ALL THE BLACKS WERE KICKED OUT AND THEN IRELAND THROUGH BREEDING AND BREEDING BECAME WHITE AGAIN. HOWEVER THEY ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN WHITE SKIN. THE REAL WHITE PEOPLE KNEW THAT. THATS WHY THEY HATED THE IRISH. ITS LIKE A BLACK MAN MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN. HALF CASTE KID MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN THE KID IS ALMOST WHITE AND THEN THE KID MARRIES A WHITE WOMAN ? IN 3 GENERATIONS THEY BECOME WHITE AGAIN.

Dude!!...never heard anything like this b4...pls which books did u get dis facts from,wud really luv to read dem fanks

JallowBah:

You can ask even what relevance a topic about a cheating husband is to a naija-site as well. People have different interests, and there is nothing wrong with learning something new

Cheating is everywhere, including Nigeria.


What is the point of this?

JallowBah:

So, in your logic, I can run around and tell people I am NOT white, I am actually black?

white and black is a color. their heritage is the same as black people. they are hebrew israelites. the concept of color originated in the 1800s as a way for the ruling class in the world then to identify themselves with purity which is white and the black man as the devil which is black. in actuality the caucasian is a red man. he is red in color. he is not white. he is the red dragon. esau. the black man is brown

donniemc:

Dude!!...never heard anything like this b4...pls which books did u get dis facts from,wud really luv to read dem fanks

check this link Bruv http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/1586

Logicboy03:


Cheating is everywhere, including Nigeria.


What is the point of this?

And slavery was everywhere, including Nigeria.

obadiah777: white and black is a color. their heritage is the same as black people. they are hebrew israelites. the concept of color originated in the 1800s as a way for the ruling class in the world then to identify themselves with purity which is white and the black man as the devil which is black. in actuality the caucasian is a red man. he is red in color. he is not white. he is the red dragon. esau. the black man is brown

I am not red. I am light-pink. And red when I am doing exercise.

JallowBah:

I am not red. I am light-pink. And red when I am doing exercise.

pink is a shade of red. you are the red man that the bible calls esau. your biblical tribe is the edomites.

obadiah777: pink is a shade of red. you are the red man that the bible calls esau. your biblical tribe is the edomites.

And brown is a shade from black.

I am not a christian. But I do believe all people came from Africa. So, far, far, far, far, far back, I got black blood.

somalia5: whats wrong with u negroids?

You people are obsessed with slavery.

What are you? You are so pathetic, virtually every post of yours is about your race- talk about inferiority complex.