frosbel: 2 Corinthians 8:12
12 A gift is appreciated because of what a person can afford, not because of what that person can’t afford, if it’s apparent that it’s done willingly.



2 Corinthians 9:7-8
7 Everyone should give whatever they have decided in their heart. They shouldn’t give with hesitation or because of pressure. God loves a cheerful giver. 8 God has the power to provide you with more than enough of every kind of grace. That way, you will have everything you need always and in everything to provide more than enough for every kind of good work.

plappville:

Can you imagine what the bible says and what the church is teaching today? These verses is a "must spread" to those fellows who are already tired of thier church pressure on tithing.

frosbel: 2 Corinthians 8:12
12 A gift is appreciated because of what a person can afford, not because of what that person can’t afford, if it’s apparent that it’s done willingly.



2 Corinthians 9:7-8
7 Everyone should give whatever they have decided in their heart. They shouldn’t give with hesitation or because of pressure. God loves a cheerful giver. 8 God has the power to provide you with more than enough of every kind of grace. That way, you will have everything you need always and in everything to provide more than enough for every kind of good work.

plappville:

Can you imagine what the bible says and what the church is teaching today? These verses is a "must spread" to those fellows who are already tired of thier church pressure on tithing.

D sage:

They also had some bible verses to backup their claims you know.

Goshen360:

Frosbel, can I begin to "puncture" those verses by/under your approval/authority even though I am against tithe scripturally OR should I/we leave it to the tithe teachers

frosbel:

indeed.

My sadness is borne out of pity for the sheeple who have no time for the bible, they will follow their so called MOG even if they tell them to jump off a cliff.

How they can still try to validate the tithe doctrine after reading these verses is beyond me.

God loves a cheerful giver.

frosbel:


You mean like Leviticus 27:30 , 40000 BC , lol,

D sage:

They also had some bible verses to backup their claims you know.

Goshen360:

...OR LIKE

New Living Translation (©2007)
"You must set aside a tithe of your crops--one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. Deuteronomy 14:22

....OR LIKE

New International Version (©1984)
Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship--the place the LORD your God chooses for his name to be honored--and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds.[/b]Doing this will teach you always to fear the LORD your God. [b]Deuteronomy 14:23

frosbel:


You mean like Leviticus 27:30 , 40000 BC , lol,

plappville:

Please show me one that pressurize tithe. I want to know what i do not know before.

D sage:

Tithe according to the book of leviticus 27:30 is mandatory for every christians.

plappville:

There is offering for women seeking fruit of the womb,

plappville:

... women seeking husbands etc hahaha....

plappville:

Some churches today take advantage of memebers situation.

plappville:

No wonder they split off to open thier own church. When Pastor B sees what Pastor A is enjoying, Pastor B will take some members and break out to open his own church. These are the Pastors seeking money. They are not ordained by God.

plappville:

The true ones do not pressurize tithe on memebers.

D sage:

Tithe according to the book of leviticus 27:30 is mandatory for every christians.

Pastor Kun:

The book of leviticus is addressed to the children of Israel and NOT christians as christians are not under the law. That aside the tithes written about in Leviticus is agricultural produce which is totally different from the man made monetary version being preached today.

Goshen360:

This is funny .....so I laugh



This is "funnier" .....so I laugh



Some "churches" AND PASTORS, actually ONE MAN PASTORAL BUSINESS....take advantage of member's situation and the word of God exposed them long ago,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
These people complain, find fault, follow their own desires, say arrogant things, and flatter people in order to take advantage of them. Jude vs 16

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
No one should take advantage of or exploit other believers that way. The Lord is the one who punishes people for all these things. We've already told you and warned you about this. I Thess. 4:6



I couldn't have said it "berrer".....lolz



No! The True ones KNOWS, by scriptures we are NOT UNDER THE OLD TESTAMENT NEITHER ARE CHRISTIAN OBLIGATED TO KEEP THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.

The True ones knows that Hebrews 7 nullified TITHE and brought it to an End for BOTH JEWS AND GENTILES, both making Christians.

The true one knows and understand that TELLING CHRISTIANS TO STILL TITHE IS PLACING THEM UNDER CURSES OF THE LAW....for[b] if you must obey the law, you must obey ALL. [/b]

The True ones knows that Christians WERE NEVER UNDER THE LAW IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT CALLED TO GRACE....For Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ.

D sage:

Tithe according to the book of leviticus 27:30 is mandatory for every christians.

frosbel:

and what about :

" And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household " - Deuteronomy 14:26

D sage:

Whatever! Scripture is scripture whether old or new testerment.

D sage:

I want you to know that, they can't just collecting tithe from congregations without backing it up with some bible verses.

D sage:

NOTE; I'm not in support of any pastors who intimidate their members to pay tithe. Tithe to me should be given at will or when convenient for the payer and not the other way round.

frosbel:

and what about :

" And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household " - Deuteronomy 14:26

frosbel:

Please free to 'puncture' those verses, a good debate is always welcome !

frosbel: 2 Corinthians 8:12
12 [color=#990000][size=15pt]A gift is[/size] appreciated because of what a person can afford, not because of what that person can’t afford, if it’s apparent that it’s done willingly.

frosbel:
2 Corinthians 9:7-8
7 [size=15pt]Everyone should give whatever they have decided in their heart.[/size] They shouldn’t give with hesitation or because of pressure. God loves a cheerful giver. 8 God has the power to provide you with more than enough of every kind of grace. That way, you will have everything you need always and in everything to provide more than enough for every kind of good work.[/color]

D sage:

What are you trying to prove by above writeup please?

Though,i agree that some pastors used the bible verses to exploit their congregation but that doesn't negate the validity of the tithe.

D sage:

Since we are no longer in Agrarian society, I think tithe should be measure/paid in term/form of money.

Pastor Kun:

That would amount to twisting scripture and changing the word of God which we all know is a very grievous sin. Anyway as I said earlier christians are not meant to tithe in the first instance.

ijawkid: Let me zip my mouth.....

My bro goshen and frosbel are doing it GOOD.....

:-)

......so that you no go come add petrol on top of the fire. . You know how much per litre petrol don cost now right ...I no say you no go wan add more petrol because we fit save that money for tithe on sunday.....

Goshen360:

......so that you no go come add petrol on top of the fire. . You know how much per litre petrol don cost now right ...I no say you no go wan add more petrol because we fit save that money for tithe on sunday.....