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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Deltagiant: 8:41pm On Oct 28, 2014
chucky234:
The logic that Igbos who settled in Obiaruku were shoe cobblers, bicycle repairers and hawkers.
The people of Obiaruku migrated from Umuebu and have a very strong tie with them till tomorrow.
The place called Okuzu in Obiaruku is the second smallest quarter in Obiarurku after Umu-edede.
The major places are Ogbe-ofu, Umusume and Ethiope area, Okuzu is also pupolated Umu-ebu indigienes with few foreign settlers who are traders occupying the shops along Old Sapele-Agbor road.


Good you’re departing from your embellishments. You’ve now conceded that Awkuzu is a quarter in Obiaruku. However, get it into you that their forebears were the earliest auchtotonous group in Obiaruku. The issue here is not about population. In the same way, the most political important city in Ukwuani, Abbi, was founded by people from Achalla in the present Anambra state. (Echalla in Ukwuani dialect)


Below are a few Onichas east of the Niger:
You couldn't be looking for the etmology of Onicha in Bini, how dare you!

Onicha-Uburu ---Ebonyi state
Onicha Enugu Ezike---Enugu state
Onicha Uboma---Imo State
Onicha Ngwa-------Abia state
Onicha Nkwerre---Imo state
Onicha---Agu Enugu state
Onicha-Nwenkwo---Imo

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by chucky234(m): 8:50pm On Oct 28, 2014
Deltagiant:



Good you’re departing from your embellishments. You’ve now conceded that Awkuzu is a quarter in Obiaruku. However, get it into you that their forebears were the earliest auchtotonous group in Obiaruku. The issue here is not about population. In the same way, the most political important city in Ukwuani, Abbi, was founded by people from Achalla in the present Anambra state. (Echalla in Ukwuani dialect)


Below are a few Onichas east of the Niger:
You couldn't be looking for the etmology of Onicha in Bini, how dare you!

Onicha-Uburu ---Ebonyi state
Onicha Enugu Ezike---Enugu state
Onicha Uboma---Imo State
Onicha Ngwa-------Abia state
Onicha Nkwerre---Imo state
Onicha---Agu Enugu state
Onicha-Nwenkwo---Imo
And who say Okuzu is populated by Igbos? By the way it is Okuzu in Obiaruku and not your pathetic Awkuzu.
Saying the people of NDOKWA are Igbos because of the similarities between Ukwuani and Igbo languages is like saying British people are Greek and Latin since English language has its root in Greek and Latin.
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Deltagiant: 8:56pm On Oct 28, 2014
chucky234:
And who say Okuzu is populated by Igbos? By the way it is Okuzu in Obiaruku and not your pathetic Awkuzu.
Saying the people of NDOKWA are Igbos because of the similarities between Ukwuani and Igbo languages is like saying British people are Greek and Latin since English language has its root in Greek and Latin.
Well, I got to stop here; you lack the depth to follow the rythm of a discussion.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by chucky234(m): 8:58pm On Oct 28, 2014
Deltagiant:

Well, I got to stop here; you lack the depth to follow the rythm of a discussion.
Thank you for trying.....
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by pazienza(m): 10:39pm On Oct 28, 2014
chucky234:
I cant pick anything meaningful from the debris you heaped up there.

May be it's because you are due for a brain transplant. *grins*

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by chucky234(m): 9:53am On Oct 29, 2014
pazienza:


May it's because you are due for a brain transplant. *grins*
oh my God, what an irony.
Imagine a man who dumbly think that his wretched ancestors trekked from Israel or Saudi Arabia and more recently Egypt to Nigeria. It is a known secret that Igbos knows nothing about their origin, if you have a brain in that shapeless skull of yours then do well to find to find out where our black Jewish brothers in the SE originated/migrated from.
You sure dont have a brain let alone needing transplant.
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Nobody: 11:44pm On Oct 30, 2014
Mr Chuky, don't mind those Igbo guys, Ndokwas can never be Igbos because they (Ndokwas) are inferior to them.

I think they are from Benin but colonized by Igbos thus the language similarity with Igbo.

I hate it when inferior Ndokwa that is not upto Obafemi Owode LGA of Ogun state is being forced to take a strange Identity.

Spit... Ndokwas can never and will never be Igbo because they get no prowess.

Even if they are Igbos, how does that effect the price of indomie in Ogbogonogo market Asaba.

chucky234:
oh my God, what an irony.
Imagine a man who dumbly think that his wretched ancestors trekked from Israel or Saudi Arabia and more recently Egypt to Nigeria. It is a known secret that Igbos knows nothing about their origin, if you have a brain in that shapeless skull of yours then do well to find to find out where our black Jewish brothers in the SE originated/migrated from.
You sure dont have a brain let alone needing transplant.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Deltagiant: 5:45pm On Oct 31, 2014
Of course, while Ndokwa ancient history is being debated, the modern history of Ndokwa; its contribution to the cause of Igboland must not be forgotten. Ndokwa sons laid their lives for Biafra. Chiefly amongst these men were the late Col. Phillip Trimnell of the Third Marine Commandos, Col. Emmanuel Nzefili of the 11th Division and Col. Emmanuel Ossai who is currently the Chairman of The Biafran War Veterans Social Welfare Association. Here is an interview he granted after the demise of Gen. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu.

Ever faithful, Col. Ossai still believes that "Once we get Biafra, our money will bear his(Ojukwu) portrait; no doubt about that". Amazing indeed.

[url]http://www.gbooza.com/m/group/discussion?id=5506827%3ATopic%3A378292[/url]

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Donmarrius: 7:43pm On Oct 31, 2014
[quote author=Deltagiant post=27614696]Of course, while Ndokwa ancient history is being debated, the modern history of Ndokwa; its contribution to the cause of Igboland must not be forgotten. Ndokwa sons laid their lives for Biafra. Chiefly amongst these men were the late Col. Phillip Trimnell of the Third Marine Commandos, Col. Emmanuel Nzefili of the 11th Division and Col. Emmanuel Ossai who is currently the Chairman of The Biafran War Veterans Social Welfare Association. Here is an interview he granted after the demise of Gen. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu.

Ever faithful, Col. Ossai still believes that "Once we get Biafra, our money will bear his(Ojukwu) portrait; no doubt about that". Amazing indeed.

[url]http://www.gbooza.com/m/group/discussion?id=5506827%3ATopic%3A378292[/url]
My brother,please don't mind those idio.ts,that are here to talk trash.In the fullness of time,the REAL AND MAIN Ndokwa people,will talk. Those Bini folks,should go back to Bini land.
















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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Donmarrius: 7:45pm On Oct 31, 2014
[quote author=Deltagiant post=27614696]Of course, while Ndokwa ancient history is being debated, the modern history of Ndokwa; its contribution to the cause of Igboland must not be forgotten. Ndokwa sons laid their lives for Biafra. Chiefly amongst these men were the late Col. Phillip Trimnell of the Third Marine Commandos, Col. Emmanuel Nzefili of the 11th Division and Col. Emmanuel Ossai who is currently the Chairman of The Biafran War Veterans Social Welfare Association. Here is an interview he granted after the demise of Gen. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu.

Ever faithful, Col. Ossai still believes that "Once we get Biafra, our money will bear his(Ojukwu) portrait; no doubt about that". Amazing indeed.

[url]http://www.gbooza.com/m/group/discussion?id=5506827%3ATopic%3A378292[/url]
My brother,please don't mind those idio.ts,that are here to talk trash.In the fullness of time,the REAL AND MAIN Ndokwa people,will talk. Those Bini folks,should go back to Bini land..
















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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by victor1464(m): 11:11am On Nov 03, 2014
Deltagiant:


Interestingly Oraifite is a town in Anmabra state that assimilated your town's people of Utagba in the 15th century. There was no way they could have been welcomed and assimilated into Oraifite if they had not understood Igbo. Your claim of being unable to understand central Igbo in this 21st century could either be as a result of immigrants from Benin who might have corrupted the original Utagba dialect or that you're not saying the truth as it is very unusual of an Ukwuani not to understand the most simple central Igbo. Read below the excerpt of the history of your town's people and how they assimilated into Oraifite society circa 500 years ago.

"Legend has it that during the time of Oke-efi in Oraifite, Anumanu, a handicapped (partially blind) son of a king of Aboh town (currently in delta state of Nigeria), migrated to Oraifite seeking refuge. Oke-efi welcomed Anumanu and his entourage. Included in his entourage were his servant (Oliobasie) and his horn blower (Eze Opi). Oliobasie was originally from a village called Utagba, in Ukwuani town. He was a servant who accompanied prince Anumanu to Oraifite. Oke-efi allocated a piece of land to Anumanu, and allowed him to settle, adjacent to Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) his younger brother. Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) had a few children, and needed good neighbors for security reasons. Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) was the only original indigene of Ibolo land and the second oldest son of Oraifite. Ibolo quarter was named after a large tree found in that part of town.

Prior to the arrival of Anumanu, there was an earlier settler at Ibolo named Ugwumagana(Isiji). There is no historical account as to where he migrated from. There are 4(four) distinct families resident at Ibolo, even until now. They are (a) Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) family, (b) Ugwumagana (Isiji) family, (c) Prince Anumanu family and (d) Oliobasie family. The Oliobasie family belongs to the Anumanu household, because Oliobasie was a servant of Anumanu. Umu-ezeopi as the name shows, were the children of Eze-opi. And they too belong to the household of Prince Anumanu, since he was part of his confidant and was brought to Oraifite by him. Isingwu migrated later to Oraifite from Osumenyi. There was no historical account as to why they left Osumenyi. Isingwu was accepted and allowed to settle as part of the household of Odu (Ogwugwuezeani). Hence, the household of Odu (Uno-Odu) include, Ibolo, Umuezopi and Isingwu. There is no clear explanation why the Isi-obi (head) of Unodu shifted from Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) to Anumanu household in Ibolo.

Unodu have always lived peacefully with the rest of the other three quarters. No war(s) was fought nor recorded between them. Infact, all quaters jointly fought and conquered the Akwa-ukwu series of wars. Part of the land now occupied by Isingwu and Ibolo were conquered from Akwa-ukwu. Isingwu and Umuezopi instituted their Obis just as the other clans in Oraifite. The Isi-Obi of Uno-Odu rests at Ibolo...."
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dat fiction is full of lies...i tink dat history fiction goes to d aboh people and not utagba clan.by d way utagba people has notin to do with orifite or wateva..i dont even know here dat is...aboh is just a town in ukwuani land.its history should not be generalize as d entire ukwuani history.wat can u say about other ukwuani communities dat u dont know about.?do say wat u dont know about ukwuani tribe b4 u put urself in confusion...utagba as d largest clan in ukwuani land came 4rm benin empire(1770ad).and dis r d majority in ukwuani land..d utagba people speak and study ukwuani as their language.....by d way is not by force to accept igbo..ukwuani people see themselves as ukwuani..so u beta mind ur business and stop talkin ukwuani.igbos should leave ukwuani alone because its not by force.ukwuanis hav bin independent and its recognised as a seperate group 4rm igbo and it is registered as one of language group www.onlinenigeria.com/tribes/ .D utagba people hav neva 4 once claimed igbo origin...after all ogoja,efik,ekoi,ibibio,& annang are related but not d same ethnic group.so stop believing fictional stories
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by victor1464(m): 11:19am On Nov 03, 2014
Deltagiant:


Interestingly Oraifite is a town in Anmabra state that assimilated your town's people of Utagba in the 15th century. There was no way they could have been welcomed and assimilated into Oraifite if they had not understood Igbo. Your claim of being unable to understand central Igbo in this 21st century could either be as a result of immigrants from Benin who might have corrupted the original Utagba dialect or that you're not saying the truth as it is very unusual of an Ukwuani not to understand the most simple central Igbo. Read below the excerpt of the history of your town's people and how they assimilated into Oraifite society circa 500 years ago.

"Legend has it that during the time of Oke-efi in Oraifite, Anumanu, a handicapped (partially blind) son of a king of Aboh town (currently in delta state of Nigeria), migrated to Oraifite seeking refuge. Oke-efi welcomed Anumanu and his entourage. Included in his entourage were his servant (Oliobasie) and his horn blower (Eze Opi). Oliobasie was originally from a village called Utagba, in Ukwuani town. He was a servant who accompanied prince Anumanu to Oraifite. Oke-efi allocated a piece of land to Anumanu, and allowed him to settle, adjacent to Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) his younger brother. Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) had a few children, and needed good neighbors for security reasons. Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) was the only original indigene of Ibolo land and the second oldest son of Oraifite. Ibolo quarter was named after a large tree found in that part of town.

Prior to the arrival of Anumanu, there was an earlier settler at Ibolo named Ugwumagana(Isiji). There is no historical account as to where he migrated from. There are 4(four) distinct families resident at Ibolo, even until now. They are (a) Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) family, (b) Ugwumagana (Isiji) family, (c) Prince Anumanu family and (d) Oliobasie family. The Oliobasie family belongs to the Anumanu household, because Oliobasie was a servant of Anumanu. Umu-ezeopi as the name shows, were the children of Eze-opi. And they too belong to the household of Prince Anumanu, since he was part of his confidant and was brought to Oraifite by him. Isingwu migrated later to Oraifite from Osumenyi. There was no historical account as to why they left Osumenyi. Isingwu was accepted and allowed to settle as part of the household of Odu (Ogwugwuezeani). Hence, the household of Odu (Uno-Odu) include, Ibolo, Umuezopi and Isingwu. There is no clear explanation why the Isi-obi (head) of Unodu shifted from Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) to Anumanu household in Ibolo.

Unodu have always lived peacefully with the rest of the other three quarters. No war(s) was fought nor recorded between them. Infact, all quaters jointly fought and conquered the Akwa-ukwu series of wars. Part of the land now occupied by Isingwu and Ibolo were conquered from Akwa-ukwu. Isingwu and Umuezopi instituted their Obis just as the other clans in Oraifite. The Isi-Obi of Uno-Odu rests at Ibolo...."
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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by victor1464(m): 11:38am On Nov 03, 2014
Deltagiant:


Interestingly Oraifite is a town in Anmabra state that assimilated your town's people of Utagba in the 15th century. There was no way they could have been welcomed and assimilated into Oraifite if they had not understood Igbo. Your claim of being unable to understand central Igbo in this 21st century could either be as a result of immigrants from Benin who might have corrupted the original Utagba dialect or that you're not saying the truth as it is very unusual of an Ukwuani not to understand the most simple central Igbo. Read below the excerpt of the history of your town's people and how they assimilated into Oraifite society circa 500 years ago.

"Legend has it that during the time of Oke-efi in Oraifite, Anumanu, a handicapped (partially blind) son of a king of Aboh town (currently in delta state of Nigeria), migrated to Oraifite seeking refuge. Oke-efi welcomed Anumanu and his entourage. Included in his entourage were his servant (Oliobasie) and his horn blower (Eze Opi). Oliobasie was originally from a village called Utagba, in Ukwuani town. He was a servant who accompanied prince Anumanu to Oraifite. Oke-efi allocated a piece of land to Anumanu, and allowed him to settle, adjacent to Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) his younger brother. Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) had a few children, and needed good neighbors for security reasons. Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) was the only original indigene of Ibolo land and the second oldest son of Oraifite. Ibolo quarter was named after a large tree found in that part of town.

Prior to the arrival of Anumanu, there was an earlier settler at Ibolo named Ugwumagana(Isiji). There is no historical account as to where he migrated from. There are 4(four) distinct families resident at Ibolo, even until now. They are (a) Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) family, (b) Ugwumagana (Isiji) family, (c) Prince Anumanu family and (d) Oliobasie family. The Oliobasie family belongs to the Anumanu household, because Oliobasie was a servant of Anumanu. Umu-ezeopi as the name shows, were the children of Eze-opi. And they too belong to the household of Prince Anumanu, since he was part of his confidant and was brought to Oraifite by him. Isingwu migrated later to Oraifite from Osumenyi. There was no historical account as to why they left Osumenyi. Isingwu was accepted and allowed to settle as part of the household of Odu (Ogwugwuezeani). Hence, the household of Odu (Uno-Odu) include, Ibolo, Umuezopi and Isingwu. There is no clear explanation why the Isi-obi (head) of Unodu shifted from Odu (Ogwugwuezeani) to Anumanu household in Ibolo.

Unodu have always lived peacefully with the rest of the other three quarters. No war(s) was fought nor recorded between them. Infact, all quaters jointly fought and conquered the Akwa-ukwu series of wars. Part of the land now occupied by Isingwu and Ibolo were conquered from Akwa-ukwu. Isingwu and Umuezopi instituted their Obis just as the other clans in Oraifite. The Isi-Obi of Uno-Odu rests at Ibolo...."
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dat fiction is full of lies.. dat history goes to d aboh people and not utagba clan.by d way utagba people has notin to do with orifite or wateva.i dont even know where dat is..aboh is just a town in ukwuani land.its history should not be generalized as d entire ukwuani history.wat can u say about other ukwuani communities dat u dont know about?dont say wat u dont know about ukwuani tribe b4 u put urself in confusion.utagba as d largest clan in ukwuani land came 4rm benin empire(1770ad) & dey r d majority in ukwuani land.d utagba people speak & study ukwuani as their language.ukwuani people see themselves as ukwuani so u beta mind ur business and stop talkin ukwuani.igbos should leave ukwuani alone because its not by force.ukwuanis hav bin independent and its recognised as a seperate group 4rm igbo and it is registered as one of d nigerian language group in d western western nigerdelta region www.onlinenigeria.com/tribes/ .D utagba people hav neva 4 once claimed igbo origin...after all ogoja,efik,ekoi,ibibio,& annang are related but not d same ethnic group.so stop believing fictional stories
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by chucky234(m): 12:21pm On Jan 24, 2015
Nice one
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Stanweezy(m): 10:35pm On Sep 07, 2015
It baffles me that the guy that wrote this crab is chukwudi CHUCKS which is an igbo name yet he claim they are from Benin, tell me any Benin man that bears igbo namem I don't knw why should force this ppl to be Igbos if they refuse then it means they are slave sold out to Benin ppl but bears igbo name but under dia master in Benin

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Kirigidi(m): 5:58pm On Nov 22, 2015
pazienza:


Nah. The article wrote that there are four known Onicha today-Olona,Ugbo,Mili and Ukwuani, and went on to say that it is not a conincidence that they all have a Bini migration history.

The writer of that article is ignorant of the fact that there not just four known Onicha towns,but many of them spread across Igboland,and that only just the four he mentioned have Bini connection.

Since the number of places with non Bini connection having Onicha prefix out number those with Bini connection, Onicha can't be a Bini word, but ancient Igbo word for ' a place of dwelling', not used in modern igbo,similar to 'Ogwa' and 'Uhu/Uru', that ancient Igbos that migrated and lived in Bini kingdom, managed to preserve and subsequently used to name their new found places of dwelling when they left Bini.
In Urhobo/Isoko nd Edo in general, "Ogwa" means palace or assembly hall. While "Uhu"/"Uru" (d term "URU" is more popularly used nowadays) means street or quarters.
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Kirigidi(m): 6:42pm On Nov 22, 2015
Stanweezy:
It baffles me that the guy that wrote this crab is chukwudi CHUCKS which is an igbo name yet he claim they are from Benin, tell me any Benin man that bears igbo namem I don't knw why should force this ppl to be Igbos if they refuse then it means they are slave sold out to Benin ppl but bears igbo name but under dia master in Benin
Guy, alots of alteratn of cultures nd languages took place in d past which modern historians hav not properly researchd. Do not dispute it wen Ndokwa pipo claim Bini origin. Language is very dynamic nd shuldn't b d main determinant of origin of a pipo. It is on record dat many languags hav bin wiped out due to overwhelmin influences of a mor dominant nd assertiv languags introducd to such areas by later migrants. Dis may hav bin d fate of Ndokwa pipo wu probably lost dia original language due to d suffocatin influence of Igbo language. I'm Urhobo. Do u evn knw dat d Igbo language was already makin inroad into Urhoboland via Orogun axis?
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by pazienza(m): 8:11pm On Nov 23, 2015
Kirigidi:
Guy, alots of alteratn of cultures nd languages took place in d past which modern historians hav not properly researchd. Do not dispute it wen Ndokwa pipo claim Bini origin. Language is very dynamic nd shuldn't b d main determinant of origin of a pipo. It is on record dat many languags hav bin wiped out due to overwhelmin influences of a mor dominant nd assertiv languags introducd to such areas by later migrants. Dis may hav bin d fate of Ndokwa pipo wu probably lost dia original language due to d suffocatin influence of Igbo language. I'm Urhobo. Do u evn knw dat d Igbo language was already makin inroad into Urhoboland via Orogun axis?


Trash. Orogun story is well known, Orogun is maternally Ukwuani( Igbo), that's why they have lots of Igbo language fused into their language.

No group of people completly lose their language to another group language without being colonised by that group. Ndiigbo were no empire builders and so never forced Igbo language on any non Igbo speaking group.
An example can be seen amongst the Olukumi speaking people of Aniocha, who have retained their Yoruboid language despite being completly surrounded by Igbo speaking people and the KELE people of Ntezi and Effium in Ohaukwu LGA of Ebonyi state who despite being surrounded by Igbo speaking people have retained their KELE language, this is so because Ndiigbo are not Empire builders and never forced Igbo language on non Igbo speaking groups.

In KELE and Olukumi towns, they have become bilingual, speaking both their native non Igbo languages and Igbo language.

Every Igbo speaking town is Igbo speaking because they have always been Igbo speaking from the very beginning.

No amount of influence is ever enough to cause a group of people who were never colonized to abandon their language completely with no trace of a dead language.

That is a lie from hell.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by pazienza(m): 8:14pm On Nov 23, 2015
Kirigidi:
In Urhobo/Isoko nd Edo in general, "Ogwa" means palace or assembly hall. While "Uhu"/"Uru" (d term "URU" is more popularly used nowadays) means street or quarters.

Then Ogwa and Uru/ Uhu like" Ogbe" must be words shared by Edoid and Igbo speaking people.
But since Ndokwa and indeed the entire Anioma is Igbo speaking, we need not look further than Igbo language to find where those words found it's way into their vocabulary.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by IGBOPRINCE: 9:04pm On Nov 23, 2015
chucky234:
Utagba is just a small town in Ndokwa kingdom, it is a small fraction in the history of the Ukwuani people.
Igbos dont even know their origin, I think you channel your energy towards knowing where the Igbo race migrated from rather waste your time fighting people who know their root and history.
this your ignorant is graduating to stvpidity . Who tha fvck that told you that igbo don't know their origin? You must be high on small stout b4 vomiting such comment. So if igbo don't know their origin? Was that the reasons you want to claimed bini ancestry? You can go ahead and claimed bini people but don't forget to drop the igbo names and pick bini names or english names if not, they will reminds you where you came from.

Yeye dey hang fool.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Kirigidi(m): 11:11pm On Nov 23, 2015
pazienza:


Then Ogwa and Uru/ Uhu like" Ogbe" must be words shared by Edoid and Igbo speaking people.
But since Ndokwa and indeed the entire Anioma is Igbo speaking, we need not look further than Igbo language to find where those words found it's way into their vocabulary.

OGWA (palace/assembly hall), URU/URUMU/IDUMU (street) nd OGBE (quarters) ar neva Igbo words. They ar undisputably Edoid words, copied by neighborin pipo. Dose words/nouns ar only used or found in areas/territories dat came unda d political, social nd cultural influences of Edo/Aka Empire in d ancient pasts, e.g. Ika, Ndokwa, Asaba, Onitsha, Ogba, Ikwerre, Western Ijaw, Owo, Eko/Lagos, Ilaje, Ikale, Ekiti, Akure, etc. I'm very sure dat Ogbe, Uru, Ogwa nd Idumu, ar not even in d vocabulary of far away Igbo clans such as Ukwa-Ngwa, Afikpo,Orlu, Abakaliki, etc, because dose places did not experience any significnt form of influences frm Edo/Aka land.
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by pazienza(m): 11:20pm On Nov 23, 2015
Kirigidi:
OGWA (palace/assembly hall), URU (street) nd OGBE (quarters) ar neva Igbo words. They ar undisputably Edoid words, copied by neighborin pipo. Dose words/nouns ar only used or found in areas/territories dat came unda d political, social nd cultural influences of Edo/Aka Empire in d ancient pasts, e.g. Ika, Ndokwa, Asaba, Onitsha, Ogba, Ikwerre, Western Ijaw, Owo, Eko/Lagos, Ilaje, Ikale, Ekiti, Akure, etc. I'm very sure dat Ogbe, Uru, Ogwa nd Idumu, ar not even in d vocabulary of far away Igbo clans such as Ukwa-Ngwa, Afikpo,Orlu, Abakaliki, etc, because dose place did not experience any significnt form of influences frm Edo/Aka land.

Lol! What you don't know is greater than you!

Igbo is quite older than Bini! Even Nri monarchy is older than that of Bini. Bini is only imperialistic while Nri was spiritual.

Uhu/ Uru exist in Abia, Anambra and Imo states, infact one of the nine Villages of Ogidi my town is named URU- OGIDI, In Ikenga village of Ogidi, there is a section of Ikenga called Ogbe- Otu, and has been named so from the very beginning of the town.

Ogwa is even more archaic!

In all, Ogbe, Uru/Uhu, Ogwa are all authentic Igbo words. As long as I am concerned, the tail( Edo being a minority group) cannot wag the dog( Igbo being a major group).

Edo borrowed those words from Ndiigbo, just as they borrowed the Igbo four market days. cool

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Kirigidi(m): 11:46pm On Nov 23, 2015
pazienza:


Lol! What you don't know is greater than you!

Igbo is quite older than Bini! Even Nri monarchy is older than that of Bini. Bini is only imperialistic while Nri was spiritual.

Uhu/ Uru exist in Abia, Anambra and Imo states, infact one of the nine Villages of Ogidi my town is named URU- OGIDI, In Ikenga village of Ogidi, there is a section of Ikenga called Ogbe- Otu, and has been named so from the very beginning of the town.

Ogwa is even more archaic!

In all, Ogbe, Uru/Uhu, Ogwa are all authentic Igbo words. As long as I am concerned, the tail( Edo being a minority group) cannot wag the dog( Igbo being a major group).

Edo borrowed those words from Ndiigbo, just as they borrowed the Igbo four market days. cool


By God's grace, tomrrw I wil hav mor time for us to debate som hidden historical facts. Do u knw dat d ancient name of Edo Kingdm was AKA Kingdm? Do u also knw dat ur NRI was an AKA/EDO man named "ERI" wu migratd to found Eri-Aka(Nri)?
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Donarozzi: 7:10am On Nov 24, 2015
Kirigidi:
OGWA (palace/assembly hall), URU/URUMU/IDUMU (street) nd OGBE (quarters) ar neva Igbo words. They ar undisputably Edoid words, copied by neighborin pipo. Dose words/nouns ar only used or found in areas/territories dat came unda d political, social nd cultural influences of Edo/Aka Empire in d ancient pasts, e.g. Ika, Ndokwa, Asaba, Onitsha, Ogba, Ikwerre, Western Ijaw, Owo, Eko/Lagos, Ilaje, Ikale, Ekiti, Akure, etc. I'm very sure dat Ogbe, Uru, Ogwa nd Idumu, ar not even in d vocabulary of far away Igbo clans such as Ukwa-Ngwa, Afikpo,Orlu, Abakaliki, etc, because dose places did not experience any significnt form of influences frm Edo/Aka land.

Kirigidi, you are wrong. You live in your own world thinking that everything from your own perspective is correct. You need to think outside the box. The words Ogbe, Ebo, Ogwa, Uhu/Uru are authentic Igbo naming patterns for communities and settlements, and they exist all over Igboland. Those words may also exist in Edo vocabulary, but are more widely used in Igboland than in Edoland. So, I would opine that either those words are shared from antiquity by both Igbo and Edo, or the Edo (especially eastern areas of Edo) borrowed them from Igbo, or the Edo communities where those words are used were originally Igbo-speaking but were subsequently absorbed by the encroaching Edo/Benin Empire.

These Igbo affixes and naming patterns for communities exist all over Igboland: Ogbe, Ebo, Uhu/Uru, Ulo/Uno, Agu/Aguru/Agulu, Ama, Umu, Onicha, Owere, Ezi, Ihite/Ifite/Ivite/Ibite/Ibute/Ishite, Ikenga, Obi/Obibi, Ogwa, Owa, Ana/Ala/Ali/Ani/Eli, Mba, Obodo, Ihu/Iru, Isi/Ishi, Ihi, Obo/Obe, Nta, Ukwu, Aboh/Abo/Abor, Elu/Enu, Ugwu, Isu, Oha/Ora, Ndi/Nde, Ebe, Ohia/Ofia/Ovia, etc.

Igbo communities bearing these names and affixes are too numerous to mention, and they exist in all nooks and crannies of Igboland, from the northern fringes of Igboland to the Southern fringes, and from the Eastern fringes to the Western fringes of Igboland. Let me also mention here that the word "Ama" is shared by both the Igbo and the Ijaw, and it means the same thing and used the same way in both languages. (*Ama in both Igbo and Ijaw means "The place/settlement/quarter of..."'). An Ijaw person might be too quick to say that the Igbo borrowed the word "Ama" from Ijaw. But here, I carefully say that the word is "shared" by both languages. Okay, but since Igbo population is larger than Ijaw, can we speculate that Igbo remnants who settled in Ijawland in primordial times brought the word "Ama" into Ijaw language? The surprise is that Igbo and Ijaw languages are not even related and do not seem to have diverged from a common ancestry, yet "Ama" appears to be the most prominent word that links both languages together.

But undeniably, Igbo language and Edo language are related. It is possible that Igbo and Edo originated from the same ancestor thousands of years ago. Igbo and Edo/Idoma/Igala/Igbira languages share similar structures and word patterns. So, since Igbo people and Edo people are related, it should not surprise anyone that certain words are shared by both languages. Over the centuries, some Igbo people settled inside Edo territory, and some Edo people settled inside Igbo territory. That is normal among all neighboring nations of the world. However, today, the Igbo territory is clearly defined, and the Edo territory is clearly defined. Kirigidi, I know you are an Edo person, and you generally view things with an Edo mindset. There is a huge debate between the Igbo and the Edo in the area of history and cultural diffusion. It is necessary to listen to Igbo viewpoints as well, so that you can broaden your perspective and arrive at a balanced conclusion.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Nobody: 8:24am On Nov 24, 2015
Kirigidi:


Do u also knw dat ur NRI was an AKA/EDO man named "ERI" wu migratd to found Eri-Aka(Nri)?

Guy, what is all this na? undecided
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by chucky234(m): 9:16am On Nov 24, 2015
IGBOPRINCE:
this your ignorant is graduating to stvpidity . Who tha fvck that told you that igbo don't know their origin? You must be high on small stout b4 vomiting such comment. So if igbo don't know their origin? Was that the reasons you want to claimed bini ancestry? You can go ahead and claimed bini people but don't forget to drop the igbo names and pick bini names or english names if not, they will reminds you where you came from.

Yeye dey hang fool.
So uncouth, what's the insult for?
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by Kirigidi(m): 11:43am On Nov 24, 2015
[quote author=pazienza post=40338580]

Igbo is quite older than Bini! Even Nri monarchy is older than that of Bini. Bini is only imperialistic while Nri was spiritual.

@PAZIENZA. D progenitors of d ancient AKA KINGDOM which was later re-named EDO EMPIRE durin d reign of Oba Ewuare D Grt, were d AKAS. D Aka pipo were proto-Edoid, nd were d ancient aborigines who inhabitd d entire region stretchin frm Akoko-Edo/Igarra axis in d North, to Owan/Owo axis, to Ika/Ndokwa/Asaba axis, nd down to Urhobo/Isoko/Itsekiri axis in d South. D ancient Akas were probably displaced nd subdued by a band of a mor powerful royal invaders who came down south frm North Africa to set-up a unique dynasty(Ogiso) in Udo (near Benin City) btw d 6th nd 8th centuries. Follwin dis invasion, many of d Akas left while d remnants secluded themselvs in quartrs which ar today knwn as ALAKA quartrs thru out Edoid region. D name ALAKA seems to b derivd frm two words ALA(land of) nd AKA. ERI appeard to b a Warrior-Priest wu movd east frm UDO.
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by IGBOPRINCE: 1:52pm On Nov 24, 2015
chucky234:
So uncouth, what's the insult for?
the insult be sey, you dey answer chukwuka or chuks and you come here on nairaland to open yeye thread to dey yan dust..

That s the insults boi..

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by chucky234(m): 2:58pm On Nov 24, 2015
IGBOPRINCE:
the insult be sey, you dey answer chukwuka or chuks and you come here on nairaland to open yeye thread to dey yan dust..

That s the insults boi..







My name is Chuck not Chuks, I know the spelling of both.
Chuck is an English name and certainly not an Ibo name, so who is yarning dust between the two of us.
Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by bigfrancis21: 3:14pm On Nov 24, 2015
pazienza:


Lol! What you don't know is greater than you!

Igbo is quite older than Bini! Even Nri monarchy is older than that of Bini. Bini is only imperialistic while Nri was spiritual.

Uhu/ Uru exist in Abia, Anambra and Imo states, infact one of the nine Villages of Ogidi my town is named URU- OGIDI, In Ikenga village of Ogidi, there is a section of Ikenga called Ogbe- Otu, and has been named so from the very beginning of the town.

Ogwa is even more archaic!

In all, Ogbe, Uru/Uhu, Ogwa are all authentic Igbo words. As long as I am concerned, the tail( Edo being a minority group) cannot wag the dog( Igbo being a major group).

Edo borrowed those words from Ndiigbo, just as they borrowed the Igbo four market days. cool



The Binis shared exactly the same 4 market days as the Igbos, most likely to have borrowed it from the Igbos:

Eken (Eke)
Orie (Orie)
Aho (Afo)
Okuo (Nkwo).

They also share similar words in Igbo such as 'ise' for number 5, 'ene'\'eno' for number 4 ('ano'\'eno' in Igbo) and 'isee' for 'amen' or 'I concur'.
http://www.edo-nation.net/numer.htm

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by bokohalal(m): 3:27pm On Nov 24, 2015
bigfrancis21:


The Binis shared exactly the same 4 market days as the Igbos, most likely to have borrowed it from the Igbos:

Eken (Eke)
Orie (Orie)
Aho (Afo)
Okuo (Nkwo).

They also share similar words in Igbo such as 'ise' for number 5, 'ene'\'eno' for number 4 ('ano'\'eno' in Igbo) and 'isee' for 'amen' or 'I concur'.
http://www.edo-nation.net/numer.htm

Bini language is related to Igbo language so incidents of shared words should be high.

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Re: Brief History Of NDOKWA by tonychristopher: 3:28pm On Nov 24, 2015
bokohalal:


Bini language is related to Igbo language so incidents of shared words should be high.


Says who ?
How are they related

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