Ephesians 5: 13 -- But all things that are reproved [discovered] are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

This teaching and this web site is for Christians, who choose, by their own free will, to believe what is written in the Scriptures, not what man’s traditions and religious ideologies propound.

II Corinthians 2: 17 – For we are not as many, which corrupt [water down] the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

It is my intention by opening up the Word of God to you and combining it with documented historical evidence, to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is THE SON OF GOD and not God. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God – God is His and our Father (if we are born again - Romans 10: 9, 10), and God who is a Spirit can and is obviously referred to as Holy Spirit. So we have God who is Holy Spirit and His Son, Jesus Christ. It is that simple.

This question "Who is Jesus Christ?" is truly essential to Christianity. By wrongly dividing God’s Word on this subject, you have practical error, which after time, becomes doctrinal error. Actually, this is exactly what has happened in many religious circles and churches today. By isolating a handful of Scriptures, people decided it was ok to "guess" at what God’s Word is saying while God strictly forbids this in the epistle of Peter.

II Peter 1: 20 -- Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private [idios -- one's own] interpretation.

Why is private interpretation forbidden and unnecessary?

II Peter 1: 21 -- For the prophecy [the Word of God] came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The original Word of God was given to man who wrote it down. Since God is perfect, His Word must also be perfect. However, there are no original Bible texts left on earth – only the closest to the originals. That is why we must STUDY and renew our minds accordingly. The Word of God fits like a hand in a glove when rightly divided and not privately interpreted. People who say that Jesus Christ is God DO NOT STUDY what is written. They study what man "thinks" the Word says. THE BIBLE INTERPRETS ITSELF. I’m working it for thirty-six (36) years. There are 50 Scriptures that clearly point out that Jesus Christ is the SON of God. There are 4 Scriptures that are misunderstood, taken out of context, or deliberately forged to propound the lie that Satan wants you so badly to believe – and that is that Jesus Christ is God. Even devil spirits, in the gospels, referred to Jesus Christ as the Son of God!

We put everything else first before God’s Word, don’t we? Then we wonder why things like terrorism has everyone suspicious of one another. Your own neighbor is watching you for suspicious activity. Why? What happened? How many people do you know that meditate on God’s Word all day? All day they run Scripture through their mind, pray in the spirit and with their understanding. Very few, if any, am I correct? Look at Matthew 6: 33 – look it up yourself. Put anything else before God and everything will be SUBTRACTED from you. Look up II Timothy 2: 15.

How many people do you know that STUDY God’s Word every day? We (those that do not rightly divide the Word of God) continue to teach that Jesus Christ is God which stems from heathanistic beliefs from the ancient city of Babylon. We continue to legalize gambling throughout the world in which we live. We are now accepting lesbianism and homosexuality as acceptable alternative lifestyles while the Word of God warns us in Romans 1: 26, 27 about the deadly consequences of such actions. We’ve got mediums and spiritualists (wrong spirit) performing devilish acts on national television. They deceive many into believing the dead are alive – a major tactic by the devil himself. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD JESUS CHRIST COME BACK TO RAISE THE DEAD IF THEY ARE ALREADY UP??!! What utter nonsense, but people who have their Bibles covered with dust on the shelf believe it.

You need to realize that the true God is just and He is even just to the Devil. The reason Jesus Christ existed and still exists was to redeem us (buy back), but it had to be on just legal grounds. God says it much better than I can.

I Corinthians 15: 21 -- For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

Jesus Christ had to be a man to justly redeem us. If Jesus Christ was God, there is nothing but eternal confusion and the Bible no longer makes any sense. Who is behind all of this confusion?

I Corinthians 14: 33 – For God is not the author [a God] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

How many Gods are there? The Bible teaches that there are two (2). One is the God and Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the other god is the present god of this world. Everything originates from one of two sources. So if confusion is not of the true God, then it must come from the counterfeit god of this world.

II Corinthians 4: 4 -- In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Which one are you going to believe? The doctrine of "three Gods in one" is one of the devil’s greatest deceptions reflecting his organized confusion along with the subject "Are the dead alive now?" We’ll save that one for a later teaching.

If you have been studying Absolute Bible Study teachings, you should know the following by now: The secret to the devil’s success is the SECRECY of his moves. Never forget that.

As a result of a lack of knowledge of the accurate Word of God due to wrong teaching and wrong believing, unbelievers have deliberately forged Scriptures to support the confusing and erroneous devilish doctrine of God the Son. They did this by purposely tampering with manuscripts and by false translations. The truth of Jesus Christ the Son of God was deliberately forged into the doctrine of God the Son. Seeds of Jesus Christ as God the Son were planted and sprouted during the apostle Paul’s lifetime and continued to grow during Timothy's lifetime and flourished shortly thereafter, reaching full bloom for all future creeds by 325 A.D.

I Timothy 4: 1 -- Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

The doctrine that Jesus Christ the Son of God was God the Son was decreed by worldly and ecclesiastical powers. Men were forced to accept it at the point of the sword or else. Thus, the error of the trinity was propounded to the end that ultimately people believed it to be the truth. Christianity became in essence like Babylonian heathenism, with only a veneer of Christian names.

Let’s now take a look at some historical, documented occurrences as to how the belief in the trinity originated and support some of these incidences with the Word of God.

In the February 27, 1978 issue of Time magazine, under the category of Religion, "New Debate on Jesus' Divinity" stated that Hans Kling, 49, of the University of Tlibingen, Germany, had been accused by his country's bishops of disseminating dangerous views about Christ. According to this article, “The first two church councils drafted the Nicene Creed, which was formulated by A.D. 381 and has been recited at every Sunday mass since the 11th century: Jesus is 'eternally begotten of the Father. . . true God from true God. . . one in being with the Father.” The Council of Chalcedon (A.D. 451) refined this further, decreeing that Jesus Christ had two natures, divine and human, which were merged without confusion or change in one Person of the Trinity. . . Kung's own paraphrase of the dogmas: God “was present, at work, speaking, acting and definitively revealing himself” in Jesus.

The first question you need to ask yourself here is "CHAPTER AND VERSE, PLEASE." There is absolutely NOTHING in the Bible about the Nicene Creed. It even says it was ‘formulated’ by the churches. This nonsense was ‘made up’ to teach the trinity. Again, who do you choose to believe? Man or God.

Christology cannot be reconciled with any historic creed because historic creeds are in error on Christology. They took from paganism the concepts of man, nature and God and baptized the pagan teachings and placed these “baptized” errors in the creeds.

Although out of print, you can find the book Babylon Mystery Religion by Ralph Woodrow. This a truly an amazing detailed Biblical and historical account of how, when, why, and where ancient paganism was mixed with Christianity. I can almost guarantee that you will have a difficult time putting the book down. You will receive a multitude of answers and clear up much confusion about the present practice of so-called Christianity. Do not give this book to a babe in Christ or someone who is a devout Catholic if you are witnessing to them.

Rev. Walter Kasper, from Tlibingen, author of Jesus the Christ, published in 1976 by the Paulist Press, makes the state­ment that “far from considering himself only a man, Jesus understands himself ‘from above’ in his whole human exis­tence” . . .. Kasper concludes that the Council of Chalcedon provided a 'valid and permanently binding' version of what the New Testament teaches, 'namely, that in Jesus Christ, God Himself has entered into human history.'
Who made this final conclusion? Kasper did. Is this written in the Bible? NOWHERE.

What is written in the Bible can be seen in II Corin­thians 5: 19, where God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself. Understand that God was working in Jesus Christ. So that God in Christ did enter into human history. However, it is very unlikely that this is what Kasper meant since he was a theologian and agreed with the doctrine of The Council of Chalcedon. Kasper most likely meant it was God who came, not Jesus Christ the Son of God.
This is a perfect example of PRIVATE INTERPRETATION – "guesswork". Let’s look at the verse:

II Corinthians 5: 19 --To wit [know], that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

God was WORKING within Christ just as God is working within me right now to prepare this teaching. If you are born again, then you have Christ in you spiritually. That spirit originates from God Almighty. The spirit of God is within you, working in you. THAT DOESN’T MEAN YOU ARE GOD!!! That type of reasoning borders on insanity and the originator is the god of this world – the devil. Look at Ephesians:

Ephesians 2: 22 – In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through [in] the Spirit.

God wanted companionship. That’s why He made it available to be born again of His spirit. Now He can have someone to walk with and talk with if they abide by His Word and make an honest effort to renew their mind and change their old man ways.

God taught Jesus Christ everything He could and Jesus Christ ALWAYS did the Father’s Will. That’s why the verse says God was ‘IN’ Christ – God was working IN the mind of Jesus Christ to carry out God’s Will and that’s just what Jesus Christ did.

Let’s work another Scripture that is very often taken out of context in a feeble attempt to prove the false doctrine of the trinity. This is another perfect example of private interpretation.

John 10: 30 – I and my Father are one.

Did you ever accomplish something together with someone else? Perhaps you run a business venture with a partner. Let’s say you always work together to accomplish the same goals and you are always in agreement with each other. Let’s say that someone asks you what the difference is, pertaining to the business, between you and your partner. You could logically answer, that when it comes to your work – "You and your partner are one." Does that mean that you are the same person?! How ludicrous. But that is what the forgers of God’s Word teach.

When Jesus Christ said this, he meant basically the same thing. This a figure of speech referring to UNITY OF PURPOSE. Jesus Christ always did the Father’s Will so he made the statement to the Judeans that he (his purpose) and God’s purpose were THE SAME. Again, it is a figure of speech.

We are soon to examine the several verses following verse 30, but first, let’s take a closer look at a verse mentioned previously in Matthew.

Matthew 6: 33 -- But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

To say "Jesus Christ is God the Son" is idolatry. "Jesus Christ is the Son of God" is truth.

The Judeans, during Jesus' lifetime on earth, said it was blasphemy for him to say he was the Son of God because they did not believe he was the Messiah. The following is another example of the high priest asking Jesus Christ if he was the Son of God. He didn’t ask him if he was God.

Matthew 26: 63 -- But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.

It was the high priest who asked Jesus whether he was the Christ, the Son of God. The high priest did not ask Jesus if he was God. He asked if he was the Son of God.

Matthew 26: 64 - 67 -- Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy [because Christ said he was the Son of God]; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. [The high priest asked] What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death. Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands,

Why? Because Jesus said he was the Son of God, and the high priest believed that this statement was blasphemy. The following is the record as recorded in the gospel of Mark:

Mark 14: 61 – 65 – But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes [his mantle], and saith, What need we any further witnesses? Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death. And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him, Prophesy: and the servants did strike him with the palms of their hands.

Again, the high priest said it was blasphemy because Jesus said he was the Son of God. Had Jesus Christ, said, "I am God," they would have considered him insane. Even at the cross they "cast into his teeth" according to Matthew 27: 40, "If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross." They didn't say, "If you're God, come down from the cross." Here is the record from John:

John 10: 31 – 33 -- Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

*** Now watch the deliberate forging of the Word of God:

Let us look at the deliberate tampering of the Scriptures. In the King James Version the word "god" has a capital ‘G’. (Remember, there were no upper or lower case letters in the original Biblical texts – they were added by man). There is nothing in the original Greek or Aramaic texts to cause the translators to endeavor to make the Judeans say that Jesus Christ made himself God. All that the Judeans charged Jesus with was that he made himself a god, small "g". The Scripture immediately following gives Christ’s reply. Jesus Christ quotes the Scripture to show what the law says:

John 10: 34 – Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" (This is a quote from Psalms 82: 6)

They accused Jesus Christ of blasphemy because they said he said he was a man who made himself a god, not the God. They, the forgers, put in a capital "G." They deliberately forged this so they could promulgate the doctrine and error of the trinity.

The translators, by using the capital "G" for god in John 10: 33 endeavor to make the reader believe that the Judeans understood Jesus Christ to claim to be God. To turn aside from Christ’s own explanation, and to work for Christ’s enemies, by putting a capital "G" on the word ‘god’ indicates a willingness on the part of the translators to be with the enemies of the Lord Jesus Christ. To knowingly and deliberately forge Scripture is sin.

Now we shall continue to study some scriptures which have been deliberately forged to teach the wrong doctrine that Jesus Christ is God.

The following two verses are the most outstanding forgeries in the complete Word of God used specifically to teach the doctrine of the trinity.

I John 5: 7, 8 -- For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

In these two verses, the words beginning with "in heaven" of verse 7 and closing with the word "earth" in verse 8 are not in any text until the 16th century. Furthermore, I John 5: 7 was omitted completely by the English committee and the American committee in the Revised Version of 1881-1885 and the American Standard Version in 1901. Yet, both the American and the British Bible Societies, knowing the ancient texts and manuscripts do not substantiate the insertion, have continued to insert the error in the King James Version as genuine Scripture.

The weak excuse given for the insertion of this passage in the text is that some copyist wrote it in the margin only as a comment, and the scribe who copied that particular manuscript mistook it for omitted matter and copied the comment into the text. These Bible societies, both British and American, printed these verses for many years after it was known not to be true. The trinitarians demanded the insertion of I John 5: 7 and 8 because it speaks about "these three are one," and then they could speak of three persons in one. Here is how the verses originally read in the closest to the original Greek and Aramaic texts:

I John 5: 7, 8 -- For there are three that bear record, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

The following is another feeble attempt, again by the Judeans, to twist the Scripture and "guess" at its meaning.

John 5: 18 -- Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him [Jesus Christ], because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

According to Biblical culture, a son is referred to as being equal to his father. When Jesus Christ said that God was his Father, he put himself as equal with God. It did not make him God, but it gave him many of the same privileges. Similarly, a son born into the family of a king has many of the same basic privileges as his father, yet the king represents the greater of the two. The father is always greater than the son, yet their privileges are many times equal because of the father's power and position to make them so for his son. God is superior to Jesus Christ.

In John 5: 19, Jesus goes on to explain "equal with God."

John 5: 19 – Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Thus, "equal" by no stretch of the imagination can mean Jesus Christ was God.

Is this beginning to register? Is the evidence slightly overwhelming by now? We have just about skimmed the surface. For one man to claim to be the son of another does not imply that he is identical to his father; therefore, Jesus' claim to be the Son of God never implied that he was identical to God. Truthfully, the Judeans never said that Jesus Christ made himself equal with God. That's what the translators said, and the English translation is an intended forgery and morally offensive to the integrity of the Scriptures to say the very least.

What the Judeans were arguing was that Jesus, by making himself the Son of God, made himself agree with God, or like God, in the sense of the figure of speech, simile. The Judeans, believing that Jesus Christ was an imposter and not the Messiah, became very disturbed.

The Judeans never even considered the possibility of Jesus Christ being God. They knew the Messiah would not be God, thus a man claiming to be God wouldn't have agitated them for they would have recognized such a person as being mentally ill. But a person claiming to be the Son of God was disturbing because according to Judaic doctrine that was a possibility. They simply rejected Jesus Christ as that promised Messiah.

Let’s look at Philippians 2: 8 and 9:

Philippians 2: 8 – And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

The word "fashion" is the Greek word schema, which means "scheme." Scheme is a plan, a blueprint. When Jesus Christ was found in fashion like a man, it was the plan, the blueprint, the scheme.

Philippians 2: 9 – Wherefore God also hath [has] highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

God also hath highly exalted him (Jesus Christ) . . . . Then how could God highly exalt Jesus Christ if Jesus Christ is God?

Looking at the scheme or blueprint of Christ being a man and studying Hebrews, we see the following:

Hebrews 1: 3 -- Who being the brightness [effulgence] of his glory [God's glory], and the express [express is not in the text and should be deleted] image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

The word "express" is not only superfluous; it is not in the text. "Image" is the Greek word charakter, meaning "the thing impressed," or the "stamp" - Jesus Christ, being the effulgence of God's glory, the stamp of God, meaning God's Son because he was conceived in the womb of Mary by God's creative ability.

The word "person" in Hebrews 1: 3 is the Greek word hupostasis, which means "standing under." It is that which is underneath, substructure, that which is out of sight, but is still there. Jesus Christ being the effulgence, the brightness of God, is in essence like "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father." Jesus Christ is the image, the impress, the stamp of God, God's only begotten Son. Jesus Christ is the "image" of God because God was underneath holding up and supporting Jesus Christ. That, again, agrees with the Word which states that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself. Repeating:

II Corinthians 5: 19 -- To wit [know], that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Need more proof?

Luke 18: 18, 19 – And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Clearly Jesus Christ is not God and never claimed to be.

John 14: 28 (end of verse) -- . . . for my Father is greater than I.

Endeavoring to make Jesus God does not add to the glory of God at all, but manufactures a second god set over against the true God who said, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." In essence, we have idolatry and humiliate the true God and degrade the greatness of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

One can readily see how one error leads to another because if Jesus Christ is God then, by sheer logic, Mary has to be the mother of God. One of the reasons you may continue to refuse to understand that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, is because you do not understand the accurate usage of "formed, made and created" or "body, soul and spirit" in the Word of God. (Please study "Body, Soul, Spirit" This teaching will greatly help you clear up much confusion propounded by man’s doctrines and religious idiotologies and will contribute to your clearness of mind.

The trinitarians represent the Son as being identical to the Father God. Then when Jesus said, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit," he, Jesus Christ, must have commended a spirit to the Father fully identical to the spirit of the Father, which would make four identical spirits in the tri-personal trinity. Watch how ridiculous this gets.

Consider this: God is God. Jesus Christ is God. Holy Spirit is God. How many gods? Three. Now, listen. God had a son, correct? Jesus Christ as God then must have had a son; the Holy Spirit as God must then have had a son. That makes six in the Godhead.

Now watch this verse:

John 17: 22 – And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them [the disciples]; that they may be one, even as we are one:

In Jesus' prayer to his Father about his disciples, the last word, "one" “even as we are one” - the trinitarians say this means Jesus is God. If that is true, then the word "one," referring to the disciples in the earlier part of verse 22, makes the disciples God also!!! Yet, Jesus Christ, when he was in a severe controversy with the Judeans, exclaimed the following:

John 10: 29a -- My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; . . . . . .

The English translations in God’s Word have many cases of outright forgery to mislead the reader. The persons who committed the forgery had been trained to believe that there were three persons, each of whom was infinite God, yet there was but one God. If three equals one, and one equals three, the mathematics of theology must be a mysterious thing, and the trinitarians are always insisting on the mystery of the trinity. It is not a matter of mystery; it's a matter of deliberate lying and of contradicting, privately interpreting, and guessing at what the Scriptures mean.

In the days of Jesus Christ, they crucified him for being the Son of God according to the gospel of John.

John 19: 7 – The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

Trinitarians in our day abolish the "Son of God" and crucify God the Son. There is absolutely no mystery concerning the trinity because there is no trinity.

The trinitarians have made void the law of God, not merely by their tradition, but by deliberate forgery. Their trinitarian doctrine humiliates God under the pretense of honoring Jesus Christ. They don't want to understand. Satan has blinded their eyes and given them a spirit of slumber.

John 17: 3 -- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Jesus Christ thus establishes his Father as the true God. The trinity forgery is continuing to be pushed on individuals and nations. Today we do it by the pen or by the tongue, while previously and originally, it was done by the sword of a Roman emperor. How futile and weak is an argument when its proponents have to resort to such methods to perpetrate and perpetuate it.

Yet to this day, one of the greatest forgeries still is being propounded in the following verse:

I Timothy 3: 16 -- And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God [which] was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

The word "God" is a deliberate forgery and is still quoted by clergymen who know better. Many revisers have corrected the forgery as far as English is concerned. The correct word used in the text in place of ‘God’ is "WHICH".

In Colossians 2: 9, THERE IS ANOTHER DELIBERATE FORGERY in another attempt to prove the trinity.

Colossians 2: 9 – For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

If the proper translation was used such as "head God" instead of "Godhead", it would have agreed with God in Christ. The word translated "Godhead" appears nowhere else in the New Testament. The use of the capital letter "g" enables the trinitarians to argue for the essential godhead of each of the three persons in the trinity. The accurate translation of the verse is:

Colossians 2: 9 – For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the head God bodily.

Jesus Christ’s' body was not the body of the Holy Ghost. Jesus Christ was not God the Son; he was the Son of God and the Son of man. He was the Son of God because of divine conception, the Son of man because he was born of woman.

God is supreme. Jesus Christ is subordinate, for he is God's only begotten Son. And to him God said, "Sit thou on my right hand" - God, commanding His Son's obedience. The Son prayed, but God never prays. The Son said, "Now, Father". If Jesus Christ's nature were divine, if he were God, he could not have had a father.

The mystery of the trinity is in the creeds of men, not in the Word of God, the Scriptures. In the Greek language, the word pneuma is always neuter in gender, and every pronoun agreeing with it - and every adjective is in the neuter gender. There is no exception. Then why do the theologians in John 16: 13 want to use the masculine pronoun instead of the word "it" which is accurate? The answer is very simple. They want to have people believe that the pneuma hagion is a person [Jesus Christ] and, thus, identical to God the Father. Again, deliberate forgery, not a mistranslation.

At the baptismal time of Jesus, if it were true what the trinitarians believe, you would have one god speaking from heaven, you would have a second god coming up out of the water in the form of a man, and you would have another god descending from the skies in the form of a dove - all at once. Sounds sort of ridiculous, doesn't it? One of those infinite gods says to another infinite god, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." How foolish can you get?

The trinitarians call themselves orthodox and everybody else – heretics -- those who differ with them on the subject. They consider themselves the custodians of evangelical truth when they are the authors of a very well organized lie.

The respect of thinking people cannot be permanently retained, for the seekers after truth will sooner or later discover the mistranslations, as well as the forgeries, on which the trinity has been based. At the present time, there is no Roman emperor's sword to sustain it, only the tongue and pen of men. The trinitarian teaching has destroyed both good sense and good morals for Christian leaders and Christian thought. The Church has lost its hold on thinking people. People will not continue following Christian leaders in whose honesty they have no confidence. The early Church taught, with emphasis, one God; but the trinity was forced on the world by the sword of Roman power. The early Christians had no conception of the doctrine of the trinity as it is now taught.

Bible societies and Bible translators continue to issue these forgeries, yet they endeavor to tell us they stand for honesty and integrity. Why not just simply believe the truth of God's Word when Jesus Christ said, ". . . . . my Father is greater than I"? What do we gain by trying to make three persons, each of them God? The errors of so-called orthodoxy are continuing to be the forgeries of the Scriptures. Thus, they are adulterating the truth - the very people who claim to profess to teach the truth.

John 20: 30, 31 -- And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

John did not say Jesus Christ is God. To the Judeans, even Jesus Christ as the Son of God was a stumbling block – a blasphemer. Even today, it is still similar to the day of Elijah in the Old Testament who called people back to the truth of God’s Word. He was considered a problem by the unbelievers just as Christians today are considered a problem by the trinitarians who continually accuse the true believer of disseminating dangerous views.

Endeavoring to sustain a doctrine disproved by human intellect and by the integrity of the Word of God is putting forth a great deal of effort in trying to believe a lie. Anyone questioning the settled dogma of the trinity is advised not to do so because it would upset the orthodoxy relative to the doctrine of the trinity which was established by the sword, by persecution and by cruel oppression, until the Church, which was corrupted by statesmen and ecclesiastical hierarchy in a civilized world, became only an imitation of heathen religions using Christian names. All this teaching of the trinity and the unification of the declaration thereof is concealed from the average student who is not told that it was unified by persecution. It is concealed from the student that Theodosius the Great in the latter part of the fourth century made, by force, the trinity the official doctrine of the Roman Empire.

The first commandment states:

Exodus 20: 3 --Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Another great truth in the Word says:

Deuteronomy 6: 4 -- Hear, 0 Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

These are never emphasized in any creed that man has made. Yet they sit like diamonds with great accuracy in the rightly divided Word of God.

The Word of God opens with one God. The Word of God closes when the prophecy of I Corinthians 15: 28 comes to pass.

I Corinthians 15: 28 – And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him [God] that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Mainly the "three-Gods-in-one" heathenistic cults will continue to ignore the truths of the greatest and most beautiful commandments and principles written so clearly in the Word of God regarding the identity of Jesus Christ. Will you be one of them? I leave you with a warning that God has written to all of us because He loves us. Until the truth of the greatness of God's Word is revived and believed, Christians will walk powerless under the deception and the guesswork of so-called ministers. I’M NOT ONE OF THEM. Make up your mind. The true God will never overstep your free will.

II Corinthians 11: 13, 14, 15 – For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

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Image123: your new article states that the Holy Spirit is God, contrary to the thread which you c&pid stating forty something. reasons why the Holy Spirit can and will never be God. see as satan dey toss you to and fro like gas molecule.

frosbel:

The Holy Spirit is not separate from GOD , it is part of HIM, I guess you missed this point all along.

The point we , and I in particular have been trying to make is that God is ONE , He is Spirit as Jesus rightly said , and therefore the operation of his Power and Purpose throughout the universe and especially in creation is by himself or should we say his Spirit.

The problem with you trinitarians is that Satan has blinded you to the idolatry of the Trinity.

How can God be divided into 3 and still be called 1.

This is the strong delusion that was prophesied to happen by Paul , it is so strong , that even rational educated people believe in the gibberishness of it's logic.

Goshen360:


1. God is Spirit .....right ?

2. Since God is Spirit. Can God being Spirit HAVE a (S)spirit?

3. If we can prove that God being Spirit can have a spirit or Spirit, then we can biblically conclude that Holy Spirit is God's spirit like a man having a spirit.

4. If you or we CANNOT prove from scriptures that God being Spirit can have spirit/Spirit, then it is eternally scriptural that the Holy Spirit is distinct from God who we know is Spirit.

Over to you Frosbel, Can Spirit (in this case, God) still have S(s)pirit

frosbel:

Yes .



God is Spirit



God is Spirit



How can a Spirit have a Spirit ? Common does this even make sense to you ?



A Spirit is a Spirit , so asking the question in the first place is flawed.

Goshen360:

Frosbel, I do not intend to "force" my teaching into you as some have accused me of doing BUT All I want you to see or reason out is the truth behind the Holy Spirit being distinct by laying down the evidence of the truth. If/Since you said a Spirit CANNOT have a spirit That is, God being Spirit cannot still have a spirit like man having spirit. It is eternally evident that the Holy Spirit is NOT God's spirit as you teach. Holy Spirit is distinct. I don't know if my point is very clear to you, there is nothing flawed in my question.

frosbel:

My honest opinion is that GOD is Spirit but he pours his holy spirit upon his children and angels , it is his power , active force , infuence etc.

If I read scripture I just cannot see anywhere God is depicted as having 2 Spirits, he is a being, the supreme being and is indivisible into any number talk less 3.

One thing I have come to charactise with the spirit of God in my life is :

1. small still voice
2. the quickeing of verses of scripture that would have otherwise made no sense.

No aspect of GOD can be seperated from him and assumed into a different being, let us be careful , everything we believe or profess has to be scripture backed.

I await your next question

By the way , did you read the article I sent you ?

Johnchike: Goshen, thanks....nice write-up. I would also like to thank Ubenedictus, Chukwudi, Italo for their efforts in other topics....Goshen thanks once again. Frosbel, stop this your battle against the Trinity, you always lose in all your topics. The issue of Trinity doesn't and cannot affect our salvation since Christ said in John 5:23 that He should be honoured just like God the Father, so if I decide to quote Isaiah 9:6 and John 1:1-18 and Colossians 1:15 and Hebrews 1:8 that Jesus is God the Son, i won't be hell-bound. We Christians on nairaland should promote salvational topics to guide us and develop our prayer life and devotion to God. Stop distracting Christians with arguments!

frosbel:

I am not here to win pal.

The Trinity is a PAGAN Idol, period.

God is indivisible, Lord Jesus is indivisible and the Holy Spirit is simply God's Spirit, himself.

Truth must be said and this is most essential to the proper understanding of scripture.

You follow the Pope with his Trinity dogma, we will follow ONE GOD and our saviour Christ JESUS.

Goshen360:

Brother Frosbel, do you know the reason why am still with you, discussing topics such as this with you

frosbel:

No idea , but I doubt if we will ever agree on this subject of the Trinity. I have spent weeks and even months investigating this dogma with the bible , various historical resources and books running into hundreds of pages, and I am now , more than ever convinced that the Trinity is a dangerous doctrine, the so called depature from the faith as mentioned by Paul and the spirit of the anti-christ as mentioned by John.

When we deny that Jesus was 100% flesh and bones , albeit with a divine origin, we totally destroy the gospel of our salvation , because if he was not fully man but was also GOD , what chance do we have to repeat his great feats of denying the flesh, overcoming sin, defeating the devil and obeying the father onto death.

I mean if Jesus was 1/2 God then all the feats he achieved were 'pretend ones' because we all know that God can do anything.

I sent you an article which I doubt you opened talk less of read, but it contains a very detailed analysis of the origin of the Trinity and tears to pieces this dogma and states in no uncertain terms it's danger to our walk with GOD.

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons - 1 Timothy 4:1

seriallink:

It will just be like God deceived us when He says He cannot die or be tempted but died and was also tempted but overcame it! It doesn't make any sense to me. Jesus can be God over us but he isn't Yahweh & cannot be God over Yahweh but his servant who was exalted after sucessfully finishing the assignment given to him~!

Goshen360:

You fully agree that God CANNOT have spirit just like we human do have spirit. What this means BUT you don't want to agree is that, the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Father. In case you still are not clear, let me use "logic" to confuse you the more (or convey my the truth I want you to see from scriptures) with this scripture and you will see how using logic can be dangerous to the interpretation of scriptures. Take a look at this scripture and let use logic for now and we come back using scripture-to-scripture interpretation rather than logic,

New International Version (©1984)
How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God! - Hebrews 9:14

Using logic (bearing in mind that God, the Father is Spirit), this scripture will read thus:

"How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God Spirit, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God Spirit!

I have replaced "God" with "Spirit" (since God is Spirit) as shown in "RED COLOUR", you have it above........How does this scripture read to you, Frosbel Does it make sense by logic ...............

Goshen360: @Frosbel
In case you still are not clear, let me use "logic" to confuse you the more

Anyigala: One radical thing Jesus did which we are all familiar with is in Matthew 9:11. He can either be an imposter/ liar or our Lord and God. We have to make up our mind. In Matthew 9:11 "Some men brought to him a paralytic, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven."

frosbel:

You misquoted the verse, know your bible friend.

It is actually Matthew 9:1-8

4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, “Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? 5 Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? 6 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, take your mat and go home.” 7 Then the man got up and went home. 8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.

If you look at the bolded, no one for one minute ever thought that Jesus had the power to forgive sins.

They praised GOD and not JESUS because they knew this Power had come from GOD.

frosbel:

No idea , but I doubt if we will ever agree on this subject of the Trinity. I have spent weeks and even months investigating this dogma with the bible , various historical resources and books running into hundreds of pages, and I am now more than ever convinced that the Trinity is a dangerous doctrine, the so called depature from the faith as mentioned by Paul and the spirit of the anti-christ as mentioned by John.

When we deny that Jesus was 100% flesh and bones , albeit with a divine origin, we totally destroy the gospel of our salvation , because if he was not fully man but was also GOD , what chance do we have to repeat his great feats of denying the flesh, overcoming sin, defeating the devil and obeying the father onto death.

I mean if Jesus was 1/2 God then all the feats he achieved were 'pretend ones' because we all know that God can do anything.

I sent you an article which I doubt you opened talk less of read, but it contains a very detailed analysis of the origin of the Trinity and tears to pieces this dogma and states in no uncertain terms it's danger to our walk with GOD.

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons - 1 Timothy 4:1

Image123: frosb, is the Holy Spirit God? yes or no.