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| Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Mcdondayan: 7:36am On Oct 16, 2012 |
Good day brothers and sisters in the lord. I have been pondering over this issue, and have asked some questions about it. The bible tells us to give one tenth of our proceed to the lord and there are many promises attached to it. But if we look around us there are many poor people around us. I have asked this same question to a clergy man and he said it is nt wrong because God is also in the poor. So i want to bring the same question to NL christains (not the brainwashed ones) who have proper reason to clear my doubt. IS IT WRONG TO GIVE OUR TITHE TO THE POOR? 2 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Nobody: 7:45am On Oct 16, 2012 |
Jesus said give to the poor. I agree. Help the needy, tithe to those who need it if you can. 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Mcdondayan: 7:56am On Oct 16, 2012 |
@ logicboy. Thanks. I feel this is a good way of tithing. There are many people around us who are hungry, yet some people give their tithe to those who have more than enough to take care of themselves. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Goshen360(m): 4:38pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
@ OP, Even some false tithe teachers will tell you that when your neighbour is dying and a poor person need help so desperately, they will tell you you must still bring your tithe to the church. There is nothing like tithe to Christians in monetary form. If you have money and God speaks to your heart to help the poor, do it graciously and cheerfully. This way, you are an angel sent to another man.God will reward you. If you also decide to give certain portion of your income to help the poor cheerfully, God bless you for such but it doesn't necessarily have to be 10%, it can be more or less or even vary from month to month. I have seen where it is written "God loves a cheerful giver" my brother but I am yet to read where it is written "God loves a cheerful tither" because tithe is "by force" but giving is "by grace, willingness and cheerfulness"......Glory to God! 15 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by plappville(f): 5:26pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Old widows are still persuaded to tithe in the church, When widows are surposed to be cared for. 1 Timothy 5:3-16 (NIV) 3 Give proper recognition to those widows who are really in need. 4 But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God. 5 The widow who is really in need and left all alone puts her hope in God and continues night and day to pray and to ask God for help. 6 But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives. 7 Give the people these instructions, so that no one may be open to blame. 8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. 9 No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, 10 and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the Lord’s people, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds. 11 As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. 12 Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. 14 So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander. 15 Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan. 16 If any woman who is a believer has widows in her care, she should continue to help them and not let the church be burdened with them, so that the church can help those widows who are really in need. If you heart directs you to give your tithe to the poor, you are doing it for God. 2 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by EvilBrain1(m): 5:27pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Giving to the poor is the only legitimate way to pay your tithe. Tithing in church has no basis in scripture. It's basically a scam being run by greedy pastors. They're colluding among themselves to conflate the old testament temple with the modern church organisation as if they're the same thing, which they clearly aren't. Anyone who pays tithe to church should keep inn mind that his/her money is being used to pay for the pastor's ostentatious lifestyle. You might as well flush your money down the toilet for all the good it'll do anyone. 9 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Goshen360(m): 5:28pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
@ plappville, Amen to that my sister! 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Mcdondayan: 7:10pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Goshen360: @ OP,In as much as i wish to reach out to those in need, tithing is necessary. But i feel it doesnt make sense to take huge sum of money to the church when you have many poor people around. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Goshen360(m): 7:24pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Mcdondayan: What tithe are you talking about that it is necessary? Crops and animals  If that is what you are talking about, then it will make biblical sense. If not, you are mixing the law and Grace together and such is against the NT Christianity. Mcdondayan: This, you have said it eternal truth. Go thy way and act as a Christ-like Christian. God bless you. 2 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by tpia5: 12:22am On Oct 17, 2012 |
op said the bible says to give your tithe to the lord he then asks nl if he should give his tithe to the poor. if i talk now dem go ask say why i no gentle with am. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Mcdondayan: 8:35am On Oct 17, 2012 |
tpia@:the same bible tells us that whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me. I am not saying it is right or wrong, i only asked a question. if you have a superior view of the topic, brotherly let me know, i could learn. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Nobody: 8:43am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Duet 14: And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. 28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest. I hope this answers your question Also Matt 25 31-45. When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was hungry, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, and fed thee ? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee ? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was hungry, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. 3 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by tpia5: 3:01pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
deut 14
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| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Joagbaje(m): 5:31pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
You ought to pay the tithe in the place where you worship. That doesn't take the place of giving to the poor . We must all remember the poor. If you dedicate a tenth or 20% of your income to the poor its good and acceptable but it does not take the place of your offerings to God and the place of tithes to God.There are several givings in Gods kingdom , one giving should not take the place of another . Jesus even said that anyone who denies the parents their honorarium claiming since he had given to God he doesn't need to give to his parents again that such a one is not free. Mark 7:11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 4 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Nobody: 5:49pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Joagbaje: You ought to pay the tithe in the place where you worship. That doesn't take the place of giving to the poor . We must all remember the poor. If you dedicate a tenth or 20% of your income to the poor its good and acceptable but it does not take the place of your offerings to God and the place of tithes to God.There are several givings in Gods kingdom , one giving should not take the place of another . Gerrout! Thief, Tithe Fraud! Lol.......I would rather burn in hell than share heaven with a thief like you. Pastors like you are evil |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Fhemmmy: 6:02pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Yes, it is wrong! 2 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Afam4eva(m): 6:02pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
I don't know the bible very much, so i can't ascertain the route that was specifically stated that the offering must go through. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Afam4eva(m): 6:02pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Fhemmmy: Yes, it is wrong!How? |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Freddieyankee(m): 6:03pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Goshen360: @ OP, Oga ade happen.... Long time na Fred b this |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Fhemmmy: 6:04pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
afam4eva: How? Cos that was not the purpose for a tithe, what you have given to the poor is not the tithe, was a gift from you to the poor and not the tithe . . . what you have labelled a tithe, you know where to take it. 7 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Paying of Tithe in the first place isnt mandatory, but if you must do, dont give it to the pastor, look around you, there are people who need it most. Pastors are already rich people. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Afam4eva(m): 6:06pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Fhemmmy:Tithe is meant to be given to God. Now the question is: How does the Tithe get to God. Through what means? Must it be paid in a Church? If your answer is yes, why? |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by jhydebaba(m): 6:06pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
OP, you want spoil market oh. Why u dey pour sand sand for pastor garri? |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by hardywaltz(m): 6:09pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Here we go again... This issue has been discussed a thousand times on this forum. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Fhemmmy: 6:09pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
afam4eva: It is not for me to worry about how it gets to God, cos you have been told already that " So that there might be food in the store house" now if the "man of God" is taking the money for himself, it is not for me to worry about, let God deal with that I only have to do my path and leave the rest And i know when i give my tithe, God is just enuf to give me more to give to the poor, without paying the tithe, the account no balance before, why wont i try God and see what He would do? 12 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Afam4eva(m): 6:11pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Fhemmmy:I'm not even talking about whether a pastor is eating the tithe or not. What i'm asking is that, was it written explicitly that people must pay their tithes in a Church? 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Nobody: 6:12pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Fhemmmy: And if the pastor is using his money to fund terrorists and thugs nko? You are deluded. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Iolo(m): 6:16pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Deuteronomy 14: 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. My Questions are: 1. The levites were the ones doing the works of God serving as Priests etc in the bible. God clearly declared that they should own no lands or valued properties of their own. How are Pastors ignoring this and buying private jets for their private use? 2. God clearly states that Tithes (which were crops or animals as in the OT days) can be converted to money and spent on whatever your heart desires. How does this reflect on the present day you must bring 10% to the church syndrome? 3. There is no where in the NT where tithe was mentioned. None of Jesus's disciplies was known to pay tithe. And Jesus himself was never known to pay Tithe @ the temple during his days. If we can safely assume (based on the absense of anything tithe in the NT) that Jesus didn't pay tithe during his time, where are we Christians being convinced to pay tithe? Would appreciate someone who can answer these questions in detail and intelligently, as they've bugged me for quite sometime. 3 Likes |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Fhemmmy: 6:17pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
afam4eva: Malachi 3:10 ESV: Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need - Unlike now, the Church used to take care of a lot of things and the money is needed for them all. |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Fhemmmy: 6:17pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Logicboy03: That was called for? |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by vanstanzy(m): 6:18pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Mcdondayan: Good day brothers and sisters in the lord. I have been pondering over this issue, and have asked some questions about it.Tithe itself is for God, like the clergy man said, God's in the poor. There, u have ur answer, give to the poor. 1 Like |
| Re: Is It Wrong To Give Your Tithe To The Poor by Afam4eva(m): 6:19pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Fhemmmy:No where in that passage did it say "Church". The Lord's store house can be anything that glorifies his name. It can be a Church, an orphanage etc. 6 Likes |
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