Lord_Reed:

If God created a religion and reveal it's name to be islam to Mohammed how is it that He did not call it islam to Noah and the rest? Why is it never mentioned anywhere else apart from in the Quran?



Simple question: if islam existed from the beginning what form where people practicing it because they sure didn't say they where practicing islam. Which other religion has similar mode of worship to islam?



Isn't it funny that a so called universal religion cannot be recognised even though it's supposed prophets all left well documented legacies? How is it the Torah and others are so different in tone from the Quran? Why are the differences so significantly different that we can not see the universality of it?

Answer these questions without attaching sentiments, don't get hot and bothered.

i have not yet seen any rational answers to this begging questions.

maclatunji: We have told you the definition of Islam and I simply pointed out to you with a simple analogy that your insistence on the previous prophets (AS) speaking Arabic or calling their submission to the will of God "Islam" is illogical. I have said I intend to answer your questions that I find worthwhile later. You need to open your mind more for there's no argument you bring that cannot be debunked but I may choose to ignore it for I am an extremely busy person. Forget that I play on Nairaland.

why then did you abandon all your busy schedule to open a thread like this and will not answer a simple rational question that are begging for answers?

If you will answer the question later why was there a need for the analogy you used to explain away the question as baseless?
(muhamad ali/casius clay)
*sigh*

^ The logic is infallible. If you can prove that Muhammad Ali isn't Cassius Clay, you can disprove my point that Islam is the religion of all the Prophets that came before Muhammad (Peace be upon them).

It isn't difficult to the discerning to see the united Message. Worship God without Associating Partners with him.

We just concluded Hajj and Eid-ul-Adha all revolving around Abraham (AS). No other of the so-called Abrahamic faiths celebrates Abraham like we Muslims do. Yet, somebody here is saying he sees no connection.

You need to get sharper lenses then.

maclatunji: ^ The logic is infallible. If you can prove that Muhammad Ali isn't Cassius Clay, you can disprove my point that Islam is the religion of all the Prophets that came before Muhammad (Peace be upon them).

It isn't difficult to the discerning to see the united Message. Worship God without Associating Partners with him.

We just concluded Hajj and Eid-ul-Adha all revolving around Abraham (AS). No other of the so-called Abrahamic faiths celebrates Abraham like we Muslims do. Yet, somebody here is saying he sees no connection.

You need to get sharper lenses then.

Christian Americans celebrate christmas more than anyone in the world. Does that make christmas a christian holiday or even an American one?

MACLATUNJI STOP FAILING SO HARD

maclatunji: ^ The logic is infallible. If you can prove that Muhammad Ali isn't Cassius Clay, you can disprove my point that Islam is the religion of all the Prophets that came before Muhammad (Peace be upon them).

It isn't difficult to the discerning to see the united Message. Worship God without Associating Partners with him.

We just concluded Hajj and Eid-ul-Adha all revolving around Abraham (AS). No other of the so-called Abrahamic faiths celebrates Abraham like we Muslims do. Yet, somebody here is saying he sees no connection.

You need to get sharper lenses then.

I think the above marks an important distinction that all should ponder upon, in my opinion neither Judaism or Christianity can really give an explanation of what religion Abraham practiced, and this creates a logical problem, which Islam addresses by clearly showing that from inception to day, God had been consistent on his criteria for making heaven, Judaism makes believe in the Jews as the people of God, a cardinal foundation of making heaven, Christians made believe in the cross tradegy cardinal to making heaven, now we note that the two policies leads to a problem, people born before the advent of Judiasm will be left out, while for Christianity people born before the cross issue will also be left out, these singular factor makes Islam seem more of the appropriate policy because it is timeless, as it requires only a belief in one God, this we believe Abraham and prophets before him believed in and hence making Islam the religion of the prophets.

vedaxcool:


I think the above marks an important distinction that all should ponder upon, in my opinion neither Judaism or Christianity can really give an explanation of what religion Abraham practiced, and this creates a logical problem, which Islam addresses by clearly showing that from inception to day, God had been consistent on his criteria for making heaven, Judaism makes believe in the Jews as the people of God, a cardinal foundation of making heaven, Christians made believe in the cross tradegy cardinal to making heaven, now we note that the two policies leads to a problem, people born before the advent of Judiasm will be left out, while for Christianity people born before the cross issue will also be left out, these singular factor makes Islam seem more of the appropriate policy because it is timeless, as it requires only a belief in one God, this we believe Abraham and prophets before him believed in and hence making Islam the religion of the prophets.

THE EPIC FAILS KEEP COMING


When did a honest "I dont know" become less important and factual than "I am just guessing".


Christians/Jews can not give Abraham's religion., They dont know. Muslims like Vedaxcoool, just assume nonsense and claim that it is islam. How is that possible when none of the 3 Abrahamic religions did not even exist before Abraham?

Logicboy03:







Christian Americans celebrate christmas more than anyone in the world. Does that make christmas a christian holiday or even an American one?

MACLATUNJI STOP FAILING SO HARD

I can only fail with slow thinkers. The points are as clear as can be for the reasonable. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Guy 1: You haven't shown a connection.

Guy 2: The connection you show doesn't mean anything to me.

I no send you now. No be today people start to disbelieve.

When someone with brain is ready to reason then we shall entertain it, the common fool who suffers immensely from suicidal thought should know muslims have the Qur'an, and clearly the Qur'an says so. The problem with these daft atheists is that rather than spending their suicidal lives thinking of how they popped out of nothing, they prefer arguing aimlessly on things they believe do not exist! that my friend is EPICAL FAIL in the very word of epic the father of TRoll the god whom you worship!

don't say Veda cooled your brain coz science must have finally discovered your skull is virtually empty indeed!

maclatunji:

I can only fail with slow thinkers. The points are as clear as can be for the reasonable. You can't eat your cake and have it.

Guy 1: You haven't shown a connection.

Guy 2: The connection you show doesn't mean anything to me.

I no send you now. No be today people start to disbelieve.

lol....you made no sense. The atheists and christians are calling you out on your BS



I now know why you guys were comfortable in your own section. You guys cant debate and cant tolerate criticism of your religion. See how you are floundering here like a fish outside water.


I dare you to make more topics here on this section.

So far, Vedaxcool has broken the record for a thread being banned for s.tupidity. Threads were banned for being abusive/trolling but for s.tupidity, Vedaxcool was the first. It just had to be a muslim to break the record

vedaxcool: When someone with brain is ready to reason then we shall entertain it, the common fool who suffers immensely from suicidal thought should know muslims have the Qur'an, and clearly the Qur'an says so. The problem with these daft atheists is that rather than spending their suicidal lives thinking of how they popped out of nothing, they prefer arguing aimlessly on things they believe do not exist! that my friend is EPICAL FAIL in the very word of epic the father of TRoll the god whom you worship!

don't say Veda cooled your brain coz science must have finally discovered your skull is virtually empty indeed!

LOL. Epic fail ko, classic stupidity ni. Translation: The man screaming, "Epic fail" seems to be showing "Classic Stupidity". Hehehe!

maclatunji:

LOL. Epic fail ko, classic stupidity ni. Translation: The man screaming, "Epic fail" seems to be showing "Classic Stupidity". Hehehe!

Abi, na Classic Depression Stupidity! buhahahha I mean if we were talking about popping out of nothing we know the fool to call, but as long as we theist are discussing about religion, then these Pop from Nothing believers should back off!

Some people are hurt that their irrational beliefs are taking a rational pounding.


#Allah aint real

Logicboy03:



lol....you made no sense. The atheists and christians are calling you out on your BS



I now know why you guys were comfortable in your own section. You guys cant debate and cant tolerate criticism of your religion. See how you are floundering here like a fish outside water.


I dare you to make more topics here on this section.

So far, Vedaxcool has broken the record for a thread being banned for s.tupidity. Thads were banned for being abusive/trolling but for s.tupidity, Vedaxcool was the first. It just had to be a muslim to break the record

You are so way down the food chain when it comes to intellectual exchanges. I have to go now, be good and stop being a nuisance. Maybe your ideas were intriguing to some people earlier on but now you're just proving to be a confused, hyperactive one-dimensional thinker.

Logicboy03:


Some people are hurt that their irrational beliefs are taking a rational pounding.


#Allah aint real

Don't worry, you don't need to shout if you're convinced.

maclatunji:

You are so way down the food chain when it comes to intellectual exchanges. I have to go now, be good and stop being a nuisance. Maybe your ideas were intriguing to some people earlier on but now you're just proving to be a confused, hyperactive one-dimensional thinker.

Hypocritically coming from someone who believes that every religion is inferior to his and that human kind should be under his sharia.



EPIC FAIL!!!!

maclatunji:

Don't worry, you don't need to shout if you're convinced.

but...but...but.....dawah! I need to dawah it

vedaxcool:


I think the above marks an important distinction that all should ponder upon, in my opinion neither Judaism or Christianity can really give an explanation of what religion Abraham practiced, and this creates a logical problem, which Islam addresses by clearly showing that from inception to day, God had been consistent on his criteria for making heaven, Judaism makes believe in the Jews as the people of God, a cardinal foundation of making heaven, Christians made believe in the cross tradegy cardinal to making heaven, now we note that the two policies leads to a problem, people born before the advent of Judiasm will be left out, while for Christianity people born before the cross issue will also be left out, these singular factor makes Islam seem more of the appropriate policy because it is timeless, as it requires only a belief in one God, this we believe Abraham and prophets before him believed in and hence making Islam the religion of the prophets.

This one comes here lying through his teeth. . .The declaration of faith for mulsims requires a person to declare that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger with out that belief you can never be a muslim. . .Where does it say that abraham or jesus believe in a god called allah?. . .Jesus and the jewish propehts according to the people who wrote about them believe in a god called jehovah yahweh not allah. . .If the belief in one god makes one a muslim then those that believe in the only god zeus are also muslims no?. . .islam is NOT timeless because islam began and was invented by mohammed and his cronies after his death. . .Deny all you want but that remains the FACT. . .The jewish prophets don't know anything about allah or islam. . .

mazaje:

This one comes here lying through his teeth. . .The declaration of faith for mulsims requires a person to declare that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger with out that belief you can never be a muslim. . .Where does it say that abraham or jesus believe in a god called allah?. . .Jesus and the jewish propehts according to the people who wrote about them believe in a god called jehovah yahweh not allah. . .If the belief in one god makes one a muslim then those that belief in the only god zeus are also muslims no?. . .islam is NOT timeless because islam began and was invented by mohammed and his cronies after his death. . .Deny all you want but that remains the FACT. . .The jewish prophets don't know anything about allah or islam. . .

#tearing vedaxcool a new hole


OUCH

mazaje:

This one comes here lying through his teeth. . .The declaration of faith for mulsims requires a person to declare that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger with out that belief you can never be a muslim. . .Where does it say that abraham or jesus believe in a god called allah?. . .Jesus and the jewish propehts according to the people who wrote about them believe in a god called jehovah yahweh not allah. . .If the belief in one god makes one a muslim then those that believe in the only god zeus are also muslims no?. . .islam is NOT timeless because islam began and was invented by mohammed and his cronies after his death. . .Deny all you want but that remains the FACT. . .The jewish prophets don't know anything about allah or islam. . .

Buhahhaha , someone failed to take his Pill this morning, No? tomorrow this deluded atheist will pretend that he was once a Muslim ( a muslim who did not know that translation exist in other lanaguagge, an ex muslim who has never heard of the 6 article of faiths, a ex muslims who shows every willingness to expose his inordinate and unquatifiable degree of ignorance when simple matter involving Islam)


"O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray. "
—Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 136[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_theology


Now lets summarize his foolish argument that marvels only those with suicidal Stupidity, and Epic Imbecility!

If the belief in one god makes one a muslim then those that believe in the only god zeus are also muslims no?

Any fool for that matter will see how inept and genetically incompetent your reasoning work, did the greeks believe in only Zeus? make somesense boy!


islam is NOT timeless because islam began and was invented by mohammed and his cronies after his death

Really, your poor lying self should have some small measure of common sense, Belief in One God long existed before Muhammad pbuh, so when you say he invented a religion did you mean to say electricity? Huh!

Let me leave you with dosage of truth you so ignorantly deny
:

He is Allah the Creator the Evolver the Bestower of Forms (or colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: Whatever is in the heavens and on earth doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the exalted in Might the Wise.

Qur'ân 59:24, tr Yusuf Ali

by mazaje(m): 7:34am
^^
This man has come again with his endless drivels that only make sense to him alone. . . .LOL!

a one liner to a complex question is really showing knowledge. thats smart only in your mind of deception. what you didnt say to the illogical logicboy03 is that your mother is a christians and if your dad paid any attention to islam he wouldnt have married a people of the book in an oasis of 'muslims' as large as northern nigeria. the same deception you have carried through that will not let you fess up to your cousins from both sides that you are an atheist. whats so interesting is that your fear of what the christian cousins will do to you clearly proves that its not islam that shall make your muslim cousins manhandle you if they know what you are.



@logicboy03:

by Logicboy03(m): 10:56am

mazaje: ^^
This man has come again with his endless drivels that only make sense to him alone. . . .LOL!

Sweetnecta seems like an illiterate that was lucky to get an American passport.

luck i do not believe in. i still keep my nigerian citizenship. i will accept you calling me an illiterate. many a leader of nations are. GEJ is one in my own view. many captains of of mega corporations are. Brannson of Virgin Atlantic is one. I guess neither the cost of education that my parents paid for nor the university degree qualify me more than what you said i am. heck. look at who i am responding to; a man who thinks he made himself or he came for whatever [a set of gorillas or baboons or even dogs], even after knowing fully well that his parents are humans and not gorillas. i guess when a man makes 500 pounds a weekend he has arrived.

Sweetnecta: a one liner to a complex question is really showing knowledge. thats smart only in your mind of deception. what you didnt say to the illogical logicboy03 is that your mother is a christians and if your dad paid any attention to islam he wouldnt have married a people of the book in an oasis of 'muslims' as large as northern nigeria. the same deception you have carried through that will not let you fess up to your cousins from both sides that you are an atheist. whats so interesting is that your fear of what the christian cousins will do to you clearly proves that its not islam that shall make your muslim cousins manhandle you if they know what you are.



@logicboy03: luck i do not believe in. i still keep my nigerian citizenship. i will accept you calling me an illiterate. many a leader of nations are. GEJ is one in my own view. many captains of of mega corporations are. Brannson of Virgin Atlantic is one. I guess neither the cost of education that my parents paid for nor the university degree qualify me more than what you said i am. heck. look at who i am responding to; a man who thinks he made himself or he came for whatever [a set of gorillas or baboons or even dogs], even after knowing fully well that his parents are humans and not gorillas. i guess when a man makes 500 pounds a weekend he has arrived.

lol....I am dying of laughter from your response to Majaze. You are a muslim bigot that even fails at proper bigotry.


Branson can reason for himself. An illiterate is not only about reading or writing (Which Branson can do) but also being ignorant about basic aspects of life.


Anyway, I have always maintained that most American muslims are hypocrites. They say that Islam is the truth but they cant stop reaping the fruits of a riba/haram capitalistic system.

vedaxcool:

Buhahhaha , someone failed to take his Pill this morning, No? tomorrow this deluded atheist will pretend that he was once a Muslim ( a muslim who did not know that translation exist in other lanaguagge, an ex muslim who has never heard of the 6 article of faiths, a ex muslims who shows every willingness to expose his inordinate and unquatifiable degree of ignorance when simple matter involving Islam)

I am talking about what makes a person a muslims and this deluded goon is here talking about 6 articles of faith?. . .

]"O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray. "
—Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 136[3]

The verse you quoted from the koran has even destroyed the nonsense you are typing here. . .It begings by saying those who believe in allah and his messenger. . .For one to be a muslim the person must believe that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his last messenger. . .belief in one god alone does not make one a muslim as long as that god is not allah. . .For one to be a muslims he must believe that there is no god but allah. . .Abraham believes in one god but he does NOT believe that the god is allah so he was NOT a musilm . . .For to be accepted as a muslim the person MUST believe that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger. . .You can NOT be a muslim if you do not believe that. . .Keep lying about the belief in one god makes a person a muslim as long as the person does not believe that the god is allah he is not a muslim. . Jesus believed in a god called jehovah yahweh, isaiah believed in the same god, david believed in the same god etc. . They did NOT believe in allah and they NEVER said they were messengers of any allah. .Those of them that said they were prophets stated they were prophets of jehovah yahweh . Lie all you can but that remains the fact. . They were never muslims. . .The belief that allah is the only god and mohammed his messenger is what makes u a muslim not the nonsense you are trying to sell here. . .keep lying for allah. . .

Now lets summarize his foolish argument that marvels only those with suicidal Stupidity, and Epic Imbecility!

If the belief in one god makes one a muslim then those that believe in the only god zeus are also muslims no?

Any fool for that matter will see how inept and genetically incompetent your reasoning work, did the greeks believe in only Zeus? make somesense boy!

This fool is here again displaying his foolery as usual. . .Those that believe in zeus believe that he is the only god. . .Of course some anceint greek also believe in other gods apart from zeus but those of them that believe in zeus believe in him alone. . .Going by the nonsense you are selling those that believe in ifa must be muslims since ifa is one god. . those that believe in shiva must be muslims since shiva is also one god and the believers of god shiva believe shiva alone is god. . .Are they all muslims because the believe in one god?. . .Do you know those that believe in Xenu?. . .They believe he is the only true god and creator of the universe. . are they muslims because the believe in one god?. . .

islam is NOT timeless because islam began and was invented by mohammed and his cronies after his death

Really, your poor lying self should have some small measure of common sense, Belief in One God long existed before Muhammad pbuh, so when you say he invented a religion did you mean to say electricity? Huh!

There is a difference between belief in one god and islam. . .many people believe in one god long before mohammed was born and they were NOT muslims. . .The jews believe in one god, so did the some of the greeks, romans, chinese etc. . .But non of them believed in the god called allah. . .Islam was founded by mohammed before him there was nothing like islam. . .Jesus never taled about a god called allah , non of the propehts of the old testament ever talked about any religion called islam or any god called allah. . .NON of them believed that there is no god but allah and mohammed is his massenger. . .They believed on one god and his name is jehovah yahewh not allah. . .Islam was invented by mohammed and his cornies after he died by stealing from the ideas of others(stealing their prophets and scripture etc). . .Before mohammed the religion of islam never existed any where. . .

Let me leave you with dosage of truth you so ignorantly deny
:

He is Allah the Creator the Evolver the Bestower of Forms (or colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: Whatever is in the heavens and on earth doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the exalted in Might the Wise.

Qur'ân 59:24, tr Yusuf Ali

The mythical drivel of some arabic nomads that thought mountains are pegs is what you call dosage of truth?. . .You are more deluded than I thought you were. . .foooooool. . .

mazaje: . . .Abraham believes in one god

My point being has been proven by the same genetically incompetent imbeci1 who pretends to be an ex muslim and at the same time makes unforgivable gaffes about simple facts of Islam that any muslim child would know, the bolded underscores my point, your infantile yapping or deluded outburst does not obscure this fact any more than it is. sorry, I will give you another chance in making sensible and coherent argument that we all can believe to be emanating from a matured and sound mind. Yopu would note the foolish and genetically incompetent atheists prefer arguing over what did not exist rather than finding a solution to their pop from nothing theology! what waste!

Once again I leave you truths from the Qur'an

2:133. Were ye witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship Thy god and
the god of thy fathers, of Abraham, Isma'il and Isaac,- the one [True] Allah: To Him we bow [in Islam]."


3:67. Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's [Which is Islam], and he joined not gods with Allah.

3:97. In it are Signs Manifest; [for example], the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford
the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures.

12:38. "And I follow the ways of my fathers,- Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and never could we attribute any partners whatever to Allah: that [comes] of the grace of Allah to us and to mankind: yet most men are not grateful.


Dude, I don't have all day teaching common sense,

vedaxcool:

My point being has been proven by the same genetically incompetent imbeci1 who pretends to be an ex muslim and at the same time makes unforgivable gaffes about simple facts of Islam that any muslim child would know, the bolded underscores my point, your infantile yapping or deluded outburst does not obscure this fact any more than it is. sorry, I will give you another chance in making sensible and coherent argument that we all can believe to be emanating from a matured and sound mind. Yopu would note the foolish and genetically incompetent atheists prefer arguing over what did not exist rather than finding a solution to their pop from nothing theology! what waste!

Once again I leave you truths from the Qur'an

2:133. Were ye witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship Thy god and
the god of thy fathers, of Abraham, Isma'il and Isaac,- the one [True] Allah: To Him we bow [in Islam]."


3:67. Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's [Which is Islam], and he joined not gods with Allah.

3:97. In it are Signs Manifest; [for example], the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford
the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures.

12:38. "And I follow the ways of my fathers,- Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and never could we attribute any partners whatever to Allah: that [comes] of the grace of Allah to us and to mankind: yet most men are not grateful.


Dude, I don't have all day teaching common sense,

How foolish.


Abraham was a musim before islam was formed?

Just because Abraham bowed to one god he a muslim? madness

vedaxcool:

My point being has been proven by the same genetically incompetent imbeci1 who pretends to be an ex muslim and at the same time makes unforgivable gaffes about simple facts of Islam that any muslim child would know, the bolded underscores my point, your infantile yapping or deluded outburst does not obscure this fact any more than it is. sorry, I will give you another chance in making sensible and coherent argument that we all can believe to be emanating from a matured and sound mind. Yopu would note the foolish and genetically incompetent atheists prefer arguing over what did not exist rather than finding a solution to their pop from nothing theology! what waste!

You are a deluded fooool. . .Firstly the belief in one god does NOT make one a muslims if you do NOT believe that the god is allah. . .The muslim declaration of faith says that for one to be a muslim the person MUST believe that there is no god but allah. . .if you believe that there is a god and the god is not allah then you are NOT a muslim. . .If abraham was a muslim then we can say that all the jews today are also muslims because all the jews today believe in one god. . they are not muslims because they do NOT believe that the god is allah(even though they believe in only one god) and they also do not believe that mohammed is his messenger. . .believing in one god does NOT make you a muslsim as long as that god is not allah. . Abraham did NOT believe in allah as such he was never a muslim he believed in a god called jehovah yahweh. . .

Once again I leave you truths from the Qur'an

2:133. Were ye witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: "What will ye worship after me?" They said: "We shall worship Thy god and
the god of thy fathers, of Abraham, Isma'il and Isaac,- the one [True] Allah: To Him we bow [in Islam]."

What is this nonsense?. . You are bringing forth a book that was written by arabs about 3 thousand years after the dead of abraham saying he believes in some arabic creation called allah?. . .You are a useless joke. . .The boon written by the jews about one of their own says jehovah yahweh was the god he believed in. . I will believe that instead of the poorly plagiarised book by some unknown arabic plagiarist thousands of years after him. . .Pls provide just a single document before mohammed created his religion called islam that talks about abraham talking about any allah. . .abraham knowing allah is a muslim creation and is FALSE. . . .

3:67. Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's [Which is Islam], and he joined not gods with Allah.

The koran is simply lying here. . it does not know what it is talking about because the original book that talks about abraham talks about him believing in jehovah yahweh and not the mythical creation of mohammed and his cronies called allah. . .He was NEVER a muslim. . . .deny all you want but that remains the fact. . .abraham being a muslim and worshipping allah is a lie and a muslim fantasy that remains a deluded one. . . .

3:97. In it are Signs Manifest; [for example], the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford
the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures.

12:38. "And I follow the ways of my fathers,- Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and never could we attribute any partners whatever to Allah: that [comes] of the grace of Allah to us and to mankind: yet most men are not grateful.


Dude, I don't have all day teaching common sense,

You don't have any sense as such you can NEVER teach what you don't have. . .You are an empty fooool.No body in his right mind can ever put you and common sense in the same sentence . .I repeat you are a fool. . .A very useless one at that. . .Abraham lived and his descendants wrote about him and his life. . .They told us he worshipped a god called jehovah yahweh. . .Thousands of years later an arabic paedophileee suffering from schizophrenia claimed some imaginary angel appeared to only him in a cave and told him that abraham worshipped a god he created out of thin air thousands of years after abraham died. .A god abraham never knew or talked about and a god the descendants of abraham never knew or talked about and you are here talking about common sense a thing that you can never possess. . .You are an empty fooool. . .Go on chock on your keyboard idiot. . .

Logicboy03:



How foolish.


Abraham was a musim before islam was formed?

Just because Abraham bowed to one god he a muslim? madness

If abraham was a muslim because he bows to one god then the present prime minister of Israel is also a muslim because he also bows to one god. . .These guys are a complete waste of space. . .Yet these retarded fool and empty headed waste of space will be talking about common sense something that does not even exist in his world view. . .

the muslim desperation to believe that all the bible prophets were muslims is one i understand... should they realize the falsehood of that fact the very foundation of their beliefs would be completely destroyed.

mazaje:

If abraham was a muslim because he bows to one god then the present prime minister of Israel is also a muslim because he also bows to one god. . .These guys are a complete waste of space. . .Yet these retarded fool and empty headed waste of space will be talking about common sense something that does not even exist in his world view. . .

lol.....it is not easy remove brainwashing from a young age.

davidylan: the muslim desperation to believe that all the bible prophets were muslims is one i understand... should they realize the falsehood of that fact the very foundation of their beliefs would be completely destroyed.

Desperation indeed.

davidylan: the muslim desperation to believe that all the bible prophets were muslims is one i understand... should they realize the falsehood of that fact the very foundation of their beliefs would be completely destroyed.

LOL. You tried now...but failed.

maclatunji:

LOL. You tried now...but failed.

You have been failing from the beginning by opening this thread!

mazaje:
If abraham was a muslim then we can say that all the jews today are also muslims because all the jews today believe in one god

Born foolish I see, sorry can't help you there,child of idiocity and father of stupidity, we simply cannot fathom why you are undenieably daft to the very core of your existence, how else can you dissociate such a deluded fool whose religion celebrates homos? Practitioner of the gay religion, are you so indolently dumb to pick up a book and read. Jews cannot be considered Muslims in the very word because they reject Jesus, and etc. Jews again commit what we muslim call Shirk when they make themselves people of God. It does bnot work like that Abbraham, did not associate any partner with Allah neither did he reject any prophet of Allah!

Le me conclude once again by saying that being Born Foolish is a very reversible situation, adherent of the gay religion, you should be simply capable to see beyond the backside and come to terms with the truth, Abraham was a muslim, that is that! you might be too stupid, or utterly useless to your entire family to know that, but we know that common sense makes Abraham a muslim. to crown the effrontery of your genetical incompetence and abject slavery to homosexuality, you simply now lie that Ismail claimed his father worshi[pped Yaweh/Jehpovah when in fact he would clearly refer to what his father worshipped as Allah, but our dear old, Decesdant of foolishness and worshipper stupidity expects that I should God given time in teachiong him common sense and ABC of reasoning I rather prefer going reciting the book of books and making good pondering upon Allah, than deal with the curse of a life you live, bloody hooligan and waste of biological resource! Nonsense

this atheist must rank the very bottom of core stupidity!

Let me leave you with eloquent words of the Qur'an:



He is Allah the Creator the Evolver the Bestower of Forms (or colors). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: Whatever is in the heavens and on earth doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the exalted in Might the Wise.

Qur'ân 59:24

Whether ABraham called up[on Yaweh/Jehovah, Too Allah belongs all the beautiful names!