pastormustwacc:
In case you are wondering where Jesus quote enoch?




The one direct quote in the New Testament is by Jude, a brother of Jesus Christ:


While that is the only referenced quotation in the Bible, there are many indirect references which involve striking similarities.

But beware, there are some that believe that the book is false, i leave it for you to decide.

Thanks for this info, being doing some research concerning the book of enoch. I think it fix some gaps in the bible story, most especially Gen 6

And I can see parallel of the redemptive work of Christ. Still reading the book. When I'm done with share my views.

For it to be quoted by the apostles, then it's a must read for believers, to clearly understand what the apostles wanted to communicate.

kellymenz:


Thanks for this info, being doing some research concerning the book of enoch. I think it fix some gaps in the bible story, most especially Gen 6

Aren’t there like three versions of the boE? In no ways does it fill any gaps with regards the biblical Genesis account and I can prove it.
The boE is no more than a book of fanciful tales that should be told as bedtime stories. The Bible contains 66inspired books and the boE isn’t one of them.

kellymenz:
And I can see parallel of the redemptive work of Christ. Still reading the book. When I'm done with share my views.
For it to be quoted by the apostles, then it's a must read for believers, to clearly understand what the apostles wanted to communicate.

Please which of the apostles quoted this so-called boE? Neither Peter nor Jude made reference to this boE after all there have been many instances where secular records tallied with the inspired Bible to prove its authenticity.
So it’s not advisable to correlate views from an apocryphal book with that of the inspired Bible.

The earlier Jewish philosophers such as Philo tried to find a link between the book containing the Law and Prophets(Old Testament) and Grecian tales and we all know the wrong views most of them adopted as a result. Acts 17:18, 1Corinthians 15:32

That’s the reason why the REAL inspired book(Bible) warned against delving into endless man-made philosophies and apocryphal books. Ecclesiastes 12:12, Colossians 2:8

Interesting thread

ecoleco:
I have the book of jasher though I haven't got time to read it.

When I do, I will see how it matches up with some of my belief.

Well done OP.

OP.
Many books are claimed to be written by People in the Bible. The boE is one of them. It's is full with a lot of historical inaccuracies and Myth. The Bible 'word of God' contains 66 inspired books. The BoE is not included in the Canon. It's just an apocryphal and pseudepigraphic text.
You can pass it as another fictional stories

If you understand what pseudepigrapha text is, the book of Enoch will make much sense to you

Anas09:

Let me ask you a question Bros. How does the information in the Book of Enoch help our Christian Life?

I have read the post up by Pastormustwacc, and I'm wondering, I need to be a better folower of Jesus, doing as He commanded me. I need the grace to love Him with all of my everything and love my neighbor as I love myself. And here is the book of Enoch and reading through it has nothing to do with Spiritual nourishment. So. of what good is it to my Christian walk?

Will it build my faith in Christ better than my faith is right now?

Will it foster hope in me assuming I'm in a bad place hope wise?

What will it do for me? Just the information that It was quoted in the main Bible and that Enoch wrote it. Or the info about Angels and Demons? Aren't we as Christians admonished to pay no attention to the ministry of Angels? Even the good ones? So why bother with this?

Just that, one sometimes gets carried away by the excitements and jumps into threads to comment even when it's unnecessary. But, I promised myself not to talk, think, or read abt what won't benefit me Spiritually and mentally.

So, I regret making you bring us down here, it's very irrelevant to me. I'm so sorry.

Whatever Enoch wrote or did not write this book, it adds nothing to my Christian life. I have the Bible to read and adhere to, if only I can adhere to the teachings from Matt. Chapters 5 to 8, I wld be a Saint. I don't know why I shd go looking for more obscure teachinag.

The Life of Angels and Demons is not important to me, since I cannot even on my own partition a good Angel to do anything for me without going through God.

What's the point of knowing about them so deeply?

I'm very careful about the Deep things of satan, that's why Rebecca Brown's books are kept at a distance. Keep your heart with diligence. Satan knows how delicate the heart is, hence takes advantage of it.

This thread is old but somehow I came across it, I will address all things you said one by one

1. You said how will it help your christain walk?, Now answer these questions:
what is Christian walk/ life?
I believe a walk with God and a Christ like life right?
What is a Christlike life or a walk with God?
It should mean something like a personal relationship with God.
What should now mean a personal relationship with God ?
That will be a spiritual life isn’t it?
A spiritual life and personal relationship with Gods comes from faith and knowledge( Paul says that I may KNOW him and the power of his resurrection), you know God by knowledge and revelation, knowledge can come from divine revelation or by natural revelation
Even the Aspostles quoted from some books such as Paul, where he quotes Epimenides in Acts 17 when he said in him we live and have our being, also quote his writings in Titus 1:12

Enoch book accurately prophecied future events of the messiah, even Jude the half earthly brother of JESUS quoted the book of Enoch are you more correct than the apostles? The thing is that WHAT IS SPIRITUALITY TO YOU AND WHAT CAN YOU DO TO IMPROVE IT?. Enoch book may not be written by Enoch him self but the sayings were Enoch’s and were orally passed than by generations and then written down by some wise men

2. We are advised not to have anything with the Ministry of Angels? Really who gave the advised? Where is it written in the scriptures, people avoid and are afraid of what they don’t know or understand. The angelic ministry is real, Angels ministers to People who are servants of God or who have faith and worship the True GOD, ministering means here to help or to serve or to answer depends on the context, you can pray to God to send his Angels for you for a task, you can pray to God generally and God sends an Angel or Angels to perform or answer the prayers. You can also call on Angels by the permission and name of God and when they come you can make a request. This is the ministry or Angels and it’s real. Angels don’t have free will but act by the orders of God, now God has before the creation of the world given them how to operate and detects of operations with man kind, just like a CEO gives his workers how to operate and they do, they don’t come to ask him should we do this or not except on specific occasions same goes to the ministry of Angels.
As long as your request is in line with the commandments of God and his will and love then the Angel Carry it out, for example his will is for you to be blessed, if you encounter and Angel and ask for a blessing he will bless you because it is the will of God, if you encounter and Angel and you have someone who has offended you and you are a righteous man and you ask the Angel to carry out vengeance he will do as it is the will of God, now this one is goin to be a long one for me to explain cause of the principles and doctrines of Forgiveness but in simple terms look at the Story of Abraham and Sarah with Abimelech and look at the Prayers in Psalms lastly look at the story of Ananais and Sapharie.

Like another writer says it is because you are not born in such situation where things are open to you but if you are willing to KNOW and pray and you are open minded then more will be revealed to you.
The goal at last is to make heaven, the essence on earth is to walk with God and know him as our mind can take and according to his permission. So if you are okay with your walk with him then that’s no problem but to say another person path is wrong is not of God except you see such a person practicing darkness and doing evil.

God is light, God is love, God is truth and Spirit, God is Knowledge

Genius3D:
■ You said how will it help your christain walk?, Now answer these questions: what is Christian walk/ life? I believe a walk with God and a Christ like life right? What is a Christlike life or a walk with God? It should mean something like a personal relationship with God. What should now mean a personal relationship with God ? That will be a spiritual life isn’t it? A spiritual life and personal relationship with Gods comes from faith and knowledge( Paul says that I may KNOW him and the power of his resurrection), you know God by knowledge and revelation, knowledge can come from divine revelation or by natural revelation
■ Even the Aspostles quoted from some books such as Paul, where he quotes Epimenides in Acts 17 when he said in him we live and have our being, also quote his writings in Titus 1:12
■ Enoch book accurately prophecied future events of the messiah, even Jude the half earthly brother of JESUS quoted the book of Enoch are you more correct than the apostles? The thing is that WHAT IS SPIRITUALITY TO YOU AND WHAT CAN YOU DO TO IMPROVE IT?. Enoch book may not be written by Enoch him self but the sayings were Enoch’s and were orally passed than by generations and then written down by some wise men
■ We are advised not to have anything with the Ministry of Angels? Really who gave the advised? Where is it written in the scriptures, people avoid and are afraid of what they don’t know or understand. The angelic ministry is real, Angels ministers to People who are servants of God or who have faith and worship the True GOD, ministering means here to help or to serve or to answer depends on the context, you can pray to God to send his Angels for you for a task, you can pray to God generally and God sends an Angel or Angels to perform or answer the prayers. You can also call on Angels by the permission and name of God and when they come you can make a request. This is the ministry or Angels and it’s real. Angels don’t have free will but act by the orders of God, now God has before the creation of the world given them how to operate and detects of operations with man kind, just like a CEO gives his workers how to operate and they do, they don’t come to ask him should we do this or not except on specific occasions same goes to the ministry of Angels.
■ As long as your request is in line with the commandments of God and his will and love then the Angel Carry it out, for example his will is for you to be blessed, if you encounter and Angel and ask for a blessing he will bless you because it is the will of God, if you encounter and Angel and you have someone who has offended you and you are a righteous man and you ask the Angel to carry out vengeance he will do as it is the will of God, now this one is goin to be a long one for me to explain cause of the principles and doctrines of Forgiveness but in simple terms look at the Story of Abraham and Sarah with Abimelech and look at the Prayers in Psalms lastly look at the story of Ananais and Sapharie.
■ Like another writer says it is because you are not born in such situation where things are open to you but if you are willing to KNOW and pray and you are open minded then more will be revealed to you. The goal at last is to make heaven, the essence on earth is to walk with God and know him as our mind can take and according to his permission. So if you are okay with your walk with him then that’s no problem but to say another person path is wrong is not of God except you see such a person practicing darkness and doing evil. God is light, God is love, God is truth and Spirit, God is Knowledge

1. To be a follower of Jesus Christ simply means to live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. This is what Jesus Christ Himself said, pointing out that any other explanation that does not mirror that stated by Jesus Christ is not of Jesus Christ at all.

2. Jesus Christ is not Paul and Paul is not Jesus Christ.

3. Jude DID NOT quote the book of Enoch. Instead, Jude mentioned Enoch as specifically stating that the one would return to judge all.

4. I am afraid much of what you claim there has more to do with extra-scriptural sources — more of occultic leanings —, than that which in fact has to do with scripture. Notice that I didn't say biblical and for good reason.

5. I am afraid your claim has nothing to do with that which God in fact said is possible by Him. One of the major whys of Jesus Christ was in order that men could take their requests directly to God and receive directly from Him. For you to then claim that you can pray to God to send you an angel and then you in turn ask the angel for a blessing... you just negated Covenant God right there. Jesus Christ made it clear that the one we are to ask is not men, but God. An angel is not God so how can an angel give that which you did not ask of God?

6. But you cannot enter into the Heaven spoken of by Jesus Christ by following your own ideas and rules. It is impossible!

Kobojunkie:
1. To be a follower of Jesus Christ simply means to live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ. This is what Jesus Christ Himself said, pointing out that any other explanation that does not mirror that stated by Jesus Christ is not of Jesus Christ at all.

2. Jesus Christ is not Paul and Paul is not Jesus Christ.

3. Jude DID NOT quote the book of Enoch. Instead, Jude mentioned Enoch as specifically stating that the one would return to judge all.

4. I am afraid much of what you claim there has more to do with extra-scriptural sources — more of occultic leanings —, than that which in fact has to do with scripture. Notice that I didn't say biblical and for good reason.

5. I am afraid your claim has nothing to do with that which God in fact said is possible by Him. One of the major whys of Jesus Christ was in order that men could take their requests directly to God and receive directly from Him. For you to then claim that you can pray to God to send you an angel and then you in turn ask the angel for a blessing... you just negated Covenant God right there. Jesus Christ made it clear that the one we are to ask is not men, but God. An angel is not God so how can an angel give that which you did not ask of God?

6. But you cannot enter into the Heaven spoken of by Jesus Christ by following your own ideas and rules. It is impossible!

1. According to you Jesus is not Paul and vice versa, but 80% of todays Christianity is of Pauline’a teaching

2. Jude quoted from book of Enoch, use google and you can confirm that, the Lord cometh with thousands of Angels to execute judgement on the quote is a reference and quote from book of Enoch

3. What is occult? What is Esoteric?, Anyway let’s leave that first, Jesus is said in matt 26:53 think ye not that I can pray to my father than ye send down Angels…. The Ministry of Angels is real and so you can ask the Father to send his Angels for some purposes according to his will, Angels Carries out the work and task ordered by God, it was an Angel that killed the first Born of Egypt, it was an Angel that Destroyed Sodom, it was an Angel that prevented Balaam from cursing Isreal, it was an Angel that disturbed the waters in isreal to heal people, Angels ministered to Jesus after his temptation, an Angel ministered to Elijah too when he was scared. This is not occultic

5. Ask God for blessings, pray to God, don’t pray to angels, rather pray to God to send his Angels for you for protection, assignment, etc. Why the Bible is careful about angelic Ministry is because so men don’t make mistake in worshipping them. But you can deny the fact that Angels are major parts of God government over the affairs of these world.
They can be call upon by the power of God, and you can pray to God to send his Angels.

To answer your question, the Bible says study the scriptures to show thyself approved. Simple, you are told to do it.

Genius3D:
1. According to you Jesus is not Paul and vice versa, but 80% of todays Christianity is of Pauline’a teaching
2. Jude quoted from book of Enoch, use google and you can confirm that, the Lord cometh with thousands of Angels to execute judgement on the quote is a reference and quote from book of Enoch

1. Well, they claim it is instead based on their special interpretations of the words of Paul. And if you take a look at the religion, you will find that from its inception. It has looked nothing like that portrayed by Jesus Christ or by His disciples. It is a religion like every other ruled over by the many lies of many men.

2. Jude made mention of Enoch, the seventh from Adam, and not the Book of Enoch.

Genius3D:
3. What is occult? What is Esoteric?, Anyway let’s leave that first, Jesus is said in matt 26:53 think ye not that I can pray to my father than ye send down Angels…. The Ministry of Angels is real and so you can ask the Father to send his Angels for some purposes according to his will, Angels Carries out the work and task ordered by God, it was an Angel that killed the first Born of Egypt, it was an Angel that Destroyed Sodom, it was an Angel that prevented Balaam from cursing Isreal, it was an Angel that disturbed the waters in isreal to heal people, Angels ministered to Jesus after his temptation, an Angel ministered to Elijah too when he was scared. This is not occultic
5. Ask God for blessings, pray to God, don’t pray to angels, rather pray to God to send his Angels for you for protection, assignment, etc. Why the Bible is careful about angelic Ministry is because so men don’t make mistake in worshipping them. But you can deny the fact that Angels are major parts of God government over the affairs of these world.
They can be call upon by the power of God, and you can pray to God to send his Angels.

1. What Jesus Christ said was that He could but He never did that, even after His enemies had descended on Him. Even while in the grave, Jesus Christ did not call on angels to save Him. So what miniseries of angels do you refer to here?

"Angels" may have operated under the command of YHWH in the Old Covenant, but Jesus Christ never called upon God's Angels in His New Covenant. Rather, He taught His followers that they become like Angels --- Eternal beings---when they become born-again and submit themselves to His lead. He tasked them with standing faithful until the end so they would be raised by Him to eternal reward(angels of His) and not eternal damnation(Angels of Satan aka demons) after He has returned. So, your miniseries of Angels there reads more of that which is of the occult and not of Jesus Christ.

2. If God never once sent Angels to Jesus Christ and you are meant to submit to the Will of God even as Jesus Christ did, why would He sent to you that which He didn't send to Jesus Christ who has it all? Are you under some sort of idea that God will take from that which is not of Jesus Christ to give to you?