I want to suggest to the moderator of this section to create a room that will stay forever on this section so that we can be updating ourselves on solat time because many people run foul of this by following the trend of our conservative fathers that fixed the solat time forever but it's suppose to be subjected to changes every time in accordance with the weather.
How we it goes is that the people from the north will update solat time in their area so other people will be aware while the people in the south too will share their solat time in their area for people to pray at the normal time

This is a nice idea in theory but I am afraid that the practicalities would be tumultuous. I suggest that we have a detailed discussion on this very important issue and then post links to websites where people can download salat times software on their phones.

You have raised an important issue indeed!

It's also a good idea though I chose naira land cos people visits it frequently and deduce info from it easily but u know the site platform more than me whatever u do I do

The salat time in Nigeria is fairly constant, Doesn't change much all year round

^It does to such an extent that many people perform several salats at the wrong times daily. You're a bit out of touch with the reality on ground. The change in timing is usually below an hour but its effect can be severe. Most of our mosques don't have this knowledge. Worst still, they don't follow Imam Maliki's recommendations which is the operative school of thought here.

For example, Imam Maliki advised that Ishai should be prayed at least an hour after Maghrib, most of our mosques don't follow this recommendation. I say this because of those who may frown at the use of technology in calculating Salat times.

Islam does not look at people to operate outs is to convey the message if people like they follow it or not. Allah told Muhammad PBUH they yours is to convey the message and never to compel them accept you. But I know giving accurate solat time to people will be widely acceptable and give people a broaden knowledge of solat time in islam

maclatunji: ^It does to such an extent that many people perform several salats at the wrong times daily. You're a bit out of touch with the reality on ground. The change in timing is usually below an hour but its effect can be severe. Most of our mosques don't have this knowledge. Worst still, they don't follow Imam Maliki's recommendations which is the operative school of thought here.

For example, Imam Maliki advised that Ishai should be prayed at least an hour after Maghrib, most of our mosques don't follow this recommendation. I say this because of those who may frown at the use of technology in calculating Salat times.

It does vary by at most 1 hour all year round, I checked it before i came to Nigeria the last time. One hour is not that bad. One can select a safe fixed time for most of the Salat.

for Instance Fajr 6.00am Zuhr : 2pm Asr:5pm Magrib: 7:15pm Ishai : 8:30 : This would cover the prayer time for the whole year.

But you are right, many people pray either too early or too late. In the west, prayer times change drastically.

You can send your template to all the mosques in Nigeria, let's see what they will say. By the way, you might want to modify your Maghrib time. 7.15 pm is pretty late currently for Maghrib that enters around 6.39 pm at the moment.

Actually, in lagos, most mosque i have visited have complied with the scientific method of determining salat times, although more needs to be done, some mosque committe can be very sturborn..

The solat that is most affected by the fixing method is the asr prayer which is fixed at 4pm, others still fall in line within their periods.

There are softwares designed to cater for this important aspect of our deen, i believe anyone who can easily own a computer, a java phone and internet can easily download them, they are free!

Softwares: Athan basic( for computer) http:// www.islamicfinder.org/athanDownload.php,
Azan(for java phones) getjar.com

I think d reason for d problems we have now is that some people fixed it in the past and that is why I dont agree wv d fixing.

How about pple learning how d timing is arrived at as taught by d prophet rather than looking for an easy way out. What happens when u find urself away from civilisation. How may u deduce d timing and also know the direction of d qiblah.say,u'r lost in a forest or a dessert wvout yiur phone

At a mosque close to my house in Nija, subh is fixd and observd at 6a.m zuhr at 2 asr at 4 magrb 7 and ishai 8. D problm wv ds is so many ppl fastn wait for d mosques to make d call 2 prayer b4 stopping their eating and b4 breaking. Now imagine what dat can cause

Maghrib is not to be delayed and if earlier than 7,a whole congregation is..

Hausas are known to pray earlier than Yorubas.probably following the rules of praying at d earlier time. But I was perturbed when I heard a mosque calln to prayer at past 3 when asr was at minutes padt 4.

In conclusion, D op's idea is a good one.
I wld encourage that ppl get d softwares
And that they also learn how d timings can be known wvout them calculators.
I disagree wv d fixing of d time
I encourage that pple pray earlier than later.

I agree with you sis. deols, we need to learn how the time can be known using the method of the prophet(SAW), most times, you can easily convince someone with it rather than just stating the calculated method...

But wait o deols, wetin person wan go find inside desert or forest ehn?

No mind me o jare. Such thoughts come to mind once in a while. I thnk it wld be fun..trying a way out of nowhere

maclatunji: You can send your template to all the mosques in Nigeria, let's see what they will say. By the way, you might want to modify your Maghrib time. 7.15 pm is pretty late currently for Maghrib that enters around 6.39 pm at the moment.

Maghrib now begins at 6.27pm in Lagos. I go with tbaba's idea of fixing safe times that are almost 100 per cent sure to be correct in our environment. The reason is simple- inasmuch as I support educating each and every Muslim on how to calculate Salat Times and/or use relevant softwares, I also know that a good number of Muslims won't properly master it and would rather rely on Mosques.

Hence, the mosque's times must always be correct. The most efficient method is to follow tbaba's suggestion in Nigeria at least because the time variation isn't great.

We can then educate people on how/why it is so. Leaders must always seek to benefit the majority.

deols: No mind me o jare. Such thoughts come to mind once in a while. I thnk it wld be fun..trying a way out of nowhere

It would be fun alright if you are fully prepared, pack your gadgets with you. These softwares once downloaded dont really need internet connections, you would only need to recharge your batteries. My sister, technology good o, we now have solar chargers sef...so no need to dey measure shadows or they look for the twilight lol

In regards to fixing of the time for solat, i think its only necessary for zhur and asr prayers due to work and school environment, but to think of it again, any time given for solat is still fixed, only that it is temporary.

I know how those gadgets work(yayy!) but was just playing wv my thoughts.
But u know, anythn can happen. If uve seen that movie, lost,u'll know what I mean.

The thoughts of a plane crash landing or using a parrachute for safe landing..*dreamy eyes*

Can we have the title changed and then start a step by step approach to how the timing is got.

We can inculcate all the suggestions on this thread.

We all learn.

deols: I know how those gadgets work(yayy!) but was just playing wv my thoughts.
But u know, anythn can happen. If uve seen that movie, lost,u'll know what I mean.

The thoughts of a plane crash landing or using a parrachute for safe landing..*dreamy eyes*

Why do people call TV Series, Movies? Two different things.

deols: Can we have the title changed and then start a step by step approach to how the timing is got.

We can inculcate all the suggestions on this thread.

We all learn.

You don't need the thread title changed to start. Build the relevant content for this thread and I can then change the title and promote it thereafter.

The prescribed way to calculate the time of solat for Zuhr and Asri are

For Zuhr when you stand in the sun and the sun ray is directly hitting the middle of your head it's an indication for Zuhr prayer

For Asri when you observe that your shadow is directly equal to you in size or better still out something like bottle in the sun, take the measurement of the bottle standing and measure its shadow when the are equal it's time for Asri and you can ask somebody to take your measurement standing upright and your shadow when the are equal it's time for Asri

For Magrib when the sun set while Ishai should be at least one hour after Magrib

Let someone tell us about subhi without using software so people without software on their phone can benefit

thNKS @lekibraky for the new thread.

Anyone interested can follow it- https://www.nairaland.com/1088574/how-check-solat-time-without