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Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by ChinenyeN(m): 10:12pm On Nov 05, 2012
Antivirus92: and this ezinihite people in imo are kins to the ezinifite people in anambra. But the anambra version has history while the imo version has no history. Lol! Did you see where we got it all wrong? Do you now believe that some claims should not be taken serious because it's simply lack of knowledge.

I sincerely would love to strangle the life out of you, because of this ignorant statement. Keep my kin out of your mouth. Ohnuhnu and Ezinifite do not have a relationship of any kind.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by GotNoBrainsYo: 10:48pm On Nov 05, 2012
@PAGAN 9JA:
The idea that Igbo is jewish is almost laughable. While Igbo may share some cultural traits with jews, they share nothing else.
As i said, the earliest verifiable presence of Igbo in Igboland was in the 6th - 8th century. This was at about the time, that the Jews were
conquered and taken into babylonian captivity. So did Igbo leave on the last flight out of Judea before the persians sacked Judea, or did they leave Judea earlier?
If earlier, when, and how- By land or by sea? It was definitely not by sea, and if by land, they must have traversed Mizraim or Egypt and there ought to be artifacts of trade
or language traits that mark rest stops along the way. There are many holes in that theory. Even if we assume they did all that. A journey of such undertaking must have had a lot of buy-in from the community.
As such, the community would know its origin and have a clear sense as to where they were headed and why. As it stands, Igbo do not agree amongst ourselves where we originated. It implies we were always in Africa and any migration
would have occured at the time the Sahara became desert and the majority of Africa migrated southwards into the interior of Africa, as opposed to the concentration of humankind at the Nile delta basin, and the Meditaranean coast througout antiquity



@ Antivirus92
I agree with you that I have not heard/ known that Ezinihite and Ezinifite were at all kith and Kin in any way.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:14pm On Nov 05, 2012
^^^^^^^^^^^^also you dont need any proof. you fellows dont even look like jews or Semities/ Arabs. Infact, when all the scientists around the world are propagating Out of Africa theory, some useless deluded Igbos are propagating their own baseless öut of israel" theory. *smh
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Abagworo(m): 11:30pm On Nov 05, 2012
PAGAN 9JA:
^^^^^^^^^^^^also you dont need any proof. you fellows dont even look like jews or Semities/ Arabs. Infact, when all the scientists around the world are propagating Out of Africa theory, some useless deluded Igbos are propagating their own baseless öut of israel" theory. *smh

You people should stop making mockery of Igbos. The people I've seen claiming Jews or Egyptians are mostly Yorubas. Majority of Igbos believe that they are the origin of man and did not migrate from anywhere. You can read my past contributions on this thread to know a little more about Igbos. Whitemen found Igbos too complex and ascribed Jewish origin to us and some gullible people amended their history to rhyme with bible folktales.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by GotNoBrainsYo: 11:36pm On Nov 05, 2012
PAGAN 9JA:
^^^^^^^^^^^^also you dont need any proof. you fellows dont even look like jews or Semities/ Arabs. Infact, when all the scientists around the world are propagating Out of Africa theory, some useless deluded Igbos are propagating their own baseless öut of israel" theory. *smh



NO! You are right. Igboland is actually the exact center of the earth.
That was represented in cartography as "Median Biafra" in all maps. That was why the body of water was called Bight of Biafra.
Igbo did not take the name Biafra because of the body of water. Rather IgboLand is actually the cartographic center of the earth.
So It is even likely that outward migration to other parts of the earth started from the center. That is why Igbo do not really have any history of migrating from anywhere.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:05am On Nov 06, 2012
Abagworo:

You people should stop making mockery of Igbos. The people I've seen claiming Jews or Egyptians are mostly Yorubas. Majority of Igbos believe that they are the origin of man and did not migrate from anywhere. You can read my past contributions on this thread to know a little more about Igbos. Whitemen found Igbos too complex and ascribed Jewish origin to us and some gullible people amended their history to rhyme with bible folktales.

i said some not all. why are you Igbos so sentimental
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by odumchi: 2:10am On Nov 06, 2012
Antivirus92: do you actually know what a lineage mean? How can you call a confederacy of ndi ibom(in akwa ibom),ekpa,ezza/izzi(in ebonyi state) and umuezeagwu that came from owerre axis a lineage because they came together to form aro confederacy? Do you actually know anything about aro history? Again umuiguedo are NOT considered as umunri please. An ogbunike or nando or nteje man cannot tell u that he is nwa nri but he can claim brotherhood with umunri. This where you guys get it wrong,mistaking umunri,umueri,iguedo etc even though they are all related.

Antivirus, why do you speak commandingly on issues that you [apparently] know little about? Your statements are becoming borderline insults.

Who on this earth told you that the Aro have no lineage? The Aro people are composed of three otusi (lineages) which are: Ezeagwu, Okennachi, and Akuma Nnubi. All Umu Aro communities also trace their origins to a particular village within these lineages. Originally, we (Aro people) were an amalgamation of different peoples but now, due to cross-pollination and other factors, we are all one.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 4:25am On Nov 06, 2012
odumchi:

Antivirus, why do you speak commandingly on issues that you [apparently] know little about? Your statements are becoming borderline insults.

Who on this earth told you that the Aro have no lineage? The Aro people are composed of three otusi (lineages) which are: Ezeagwu, Okennachi, and Akuma Nnubi. All Umu Aro communities also trace their origins to a particular village within these lineages. Originally, we (Aro people) were an amalgamation of different peoples but now, due to cross-pollination and other factors, we are all one.
story! So you believed that aro of yesterday which consist of igbo and non igbos can later become through mix-up? But you always argue here that igbo who have lived hundreds of years inter-marrying themselves are not one. See the best of sentiment! ARO IS NOT ONE.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 4:29am On Nov 06, 2012
No serious igbo man claims jewish origin. Even though i am of eri descent,i don't claim jew because i believe that just like the igbo history,eri's history is also a mistery
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 4:35am On Nov 06, 2012
GotNoBrainsYo:



NO! You are right. Igboland is actually the exact center of the earth.
That was represented in cartography as "Median Biafra" in all maps. That was why the body of water was called Bight of Biafra.
Igbo did not take the name Biafra because of the body of water. Rather IgboLand is actually the cartographic center of the earth.
So It is even likely that outward migration to other parts of the earth started from the center. That is why Igbo do not really have any history of migrating from anywhere.
but don't you believe that igbo man must surely have history? We must surely have history which must have been lost due to ignorance and illiteracy of our fore-fathers. Apart from adam,nobody again was created where he found himself. Every other person came from somewhere. But all these claims are due to lack of fact and accurate history. That's why i don't believe them.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by odumchi: 6:07am On Nov 06, 2012
Antivirus92: story! So you believed that aro of yesterday which consist of igbo and non igbos can later become through mix-up? you always argue here that igbo who have lived hundreds of years inter-marrying themselves are not one. See the best of sentiment! ARO IS NOT ONE.

Like Abagworo said earlier, you will get yourself in trouble if you try this nonsense in real life. Imagine walking into the palace of the Eze Nri or Eze Aro and telling them that their peoples' histories and cultures are inferior, fake, and substandard to what you yourself consider "Igbo". I'm sure your skull would be paraded through the streets of Agukwu Nri/Arochukwu and your bones used as shrine objects.

you always argue here that igbo who have lived hundreds of years inter-marrying themselves are not one. See the best of sentiment! ARO IS NOT ONE.

You're big enough to understand that the relationship between Aro and Aro is not the same relationship between Aro and Orata or Aro and Ohuhu.

Aga owula o di gi adi, Aro wu olu.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by ODUANEGRO: 6:38am On Nov 06, 2012
Abagworo:

You people should stop making mockery of Igbos. The people I've seen claiming Jews or Egyptians are mostly Yorubas. Majority of Igbos believe that they are the origin of man and did not migrate from anywhere. You can read my past contributions on this thread to know a little more about Igbos. Whitemen found Igbos too complex and ascribed Jewish origin to us and some gullible people amended their history to rhyme with bible folktales.

You dont want Yorubas to come in and comment on igbo topics but yet you find it extremely hard to restrain from mentioning us and thereby receiving our presense.

If I hear Yoruba one more time from you i will invite myself into the discussion.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 6:51am On Nov 06, 2012
odumchi:

Like Abagworo said earlier, you will get yourself in trouble if you try this nonsense in real life. Imagine walking into the palace of the Eze Nri or Eze Aro and telling them that their peoples' histories and cultures are inferior, fake, and substandard to what you yourself consider "Igbo". I'm sure your skull would be paraded through the streets of Agukwu Nri/Arochukwu and your bones used as shrine objects.



You're big enough to understand that the relationship between Aro and Aro is not the same relationship between Aro and Orata or Aro and Ohuhu.

Aga owula o di gi adi, Aro wu olu.
i care less about what abagworo said. Aro aburo ofu,otu obuna odi gi. I am of umunri and i know that we are homogeneous. We are only concerned about heterogeneous aro.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 6:54am On Nov 06, 2012
ODUA_NEGRO:

You dont want Yorubas to come in and comment on igbo topics but yet you find it extremely hard to restrain from mentioning us and thereby receiving our presense.

If I hear Yoruba one more time from you i will invite myself into the discussion.
and this man what wrong have been said about yoruba here? They have only been used to bring out some useful points and you are here barking like a dog. We care less about your existence.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Abagworo(m): 7:15am On Nov 06, 2012
Antivirus92: but don't you believe that igbo man must surely have history? We must surely have history which must have been lost due to ignorance and illiteracy of our fore-fathers. Apart from adam,nobody again was created where he found himself. Every other person came from somewhere. But all these claims are due to lack of fact and accurate history. That's why i don't believe them.

@bolded. I need not argue with you anymore if you believe in Whitemens fairy tale of origin and consider yourself part of it. You're brainwashed. No true Igbo or African believes in that Adam crap except those brainwashed with foreign religion.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 7:22am On Nov 06, 2012
Abagworo:

@bolded. I need not argue with you anymore if you believe in Whitemens fairy tale of origin and consider yourself part of it. You're brainwashed. No true Igbo or African believes in that Adam crap except those brainwashed with foreign religion.
daalu maka ozi gi. But check it twice.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by ChinenyeN(m): 3:58pm On Nov 06, 2012
Ijhimbe
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:01pm On Nov 06, 2012
Antivirus92: but don't you believe that igbo man must surely have history? We must surely have history which must have been lost due to ignorance and illiteracy of our fore-fathers. Apart from adam,nobody again was created where he found himself. Every other person came from somewhere. But all these claims are due to lack of fact and accurate history. That's why i don't believe them.
adam did not exist. stop believing in this jewish fairytales. we are descended from our great ape-like ancestors.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by odumchi: 10:52pm On Nov 07, 2012
Antivirus92: i care less about what abagworo said. Aro aburo ofu,otu obuna odi gi. I am of umunri and i know that we are homogeneous. We are only concerned about heterogeneous aro.

This is exactly what we're saying. You're so quick to reject another person's views/beliefs and promote your own.

Nnaa, i lovuole o. Ya so kwa inyi.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by ChinenyeN(m): 8:05pm On Nov 08, 2012
He's simply looking to get himself killed. That's all.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 6:31am On Nov 09, 2012
ChinenyeN: He's simply looking to get himself killed. That's all.
can you really kill me? You guys like cooking up stories and name it history. A story you can hardly defend when asked some necessary questions. You have fixed ur mind somewhere so i don't have much to discuss with you.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by ChinenyeN(m): 6:37am On Nov 09, 2012
I don't believe I said anywhere about me being the one to kill you.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by odumchi: 1:08pm On Nov 09, 2012
ChinenyeN: He's simply looking to get himself killed. That's all.

My wish is for him to open his eyes before it reaches that stage.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:40pm On Nov 09, 2012
Antivirus92: but don't you believe that igbo man must surely have history? We must surely have history which must have been lost due to ignorance and illiteracy of our fore-fathers. Apart from adam,nobody again was created where he found himself. Every other person came from somewhere. But all these claims are due to lack of fact and accurate history. That's why i don't believe them.

but you dont get the point! there is no apart frm adam because THERE IS NO ADAM! angry
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 7:32pm On Nov 09, 2012
odumchi:

My wish is for him to open his eyes before it reaches that stage.
cowards die many times before their death!
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Abagworo(m): 10:42am On Nov 13, 2012
Got this on a cuban site.

Les Ibos ou Igbos qui intègrent les Adas ou Eddas, les Ikas, les Onitshas, les Isuamas, les Briches et les Ndokos .

This I think translates to The Ibos or Igbos which comprises of the Adas or Eddas, The Ikas, The Onitshas, The Isuamas, The Briches(Nri or Mgbirichi in Ohaji) and the Ndokos(Ndoki).

I suspect Briches to be Nri because Igbos likely referred to Nris as Nde Mgbirishi because they practised what was known as Igbu Nshi which made them easily recognized.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 6:47am On Nov 17, 2012
Abagworo: Got this on a cuban site.

Les Ibos ou Igbos qui intègrent les Adas ou Eddas, les Ikas, les Onitshas, les Isuamas, les Briches et les Ndokos .

This I think translates to The Ibos or Igbos which comprises of the Adas or Eddas, The Ikas, The Onitshas, The Isuamas, The Briches(Nri or Mgbirichi in Ohaji) and the Ndokos(Ndoki).

I suspect Briches to be Nri because Igbos likely referred to Nris as Nde Mgbirishi because they practised what was known as Igbu Nshi which made them easily recognized.
then what is ur motive of posting those things? Are nri,onitsha,edda etc not all igbos? Are you saying that they are the same or different groups?
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by pcmadu(m): 5:34am On Nov 18, 2012
Antivirus92: and this ezinihite people in imo are kins to the ezinifite people in anambra. But the anambra version has history while the imo version has no history. Lol! Did you see where we got it all wrong? Do you now believe that some claims should not be taken serious because it's simply lack of knowledge.

Plz I'm a proud SON of Ezinihitte we don't have any close similarity with the Anambra ezinfite. We have our own history as pointed out. Plz don't insult my ppl because u r trying so hard to make Anambra look superior. We have 3 community in Mbaise that is called onicha but has nothing to do with Anambra.

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Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Antivirus92(m): 8:34am On Nov 18, 2012
pcmadu:

Plz I'm a proud SON of Ezinihitte we don't have any close similarity with the Anambra ezinfite. We have our own history as pointed out. Plz don't insult my ppl because u r trying so hard to make Anambra look superior. We have 3 community in Mbaise that is called onicha but has nothing to do with Anambra.
sorry brother, i don't intend to insult ur people or make anambra look superior,i am just trying to make a point. We are discussing here, the relationship between igbo people(igbo communities)
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by Nobody: 10:05pm On Nov 19, 2012
I have always wondered why the people of opobo in bonny speak Igbo language but will never agree that they are Igbo
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by ChinenyeN(m): 11:01pm On Nov 19, 2012
nomsochris: I have always wondered why the people of opobo in bonny speak Igbo language but will never agree that they are Igbo

That's a different discussion.
Re: Is Igbo A Wave Of Migrations Or Are They The Same People? by AtaniWarrior: 5:21am On Feb 26, 2017
Antivirus92:
do you actually know what a lineage mean? How can you call a confederacy of ndi ibom(in akwa ibom),ekpa,ezza/izzi(in ebonyi state) and umuezeagwu that came from owerre axis a lineage because they came together to form aro confederacy? Do you actually know anything about aro history? Again umuiguedo are NOT considered as umunri please. An ogbunike or nando or nteje man cannot tell u that he is nwa nri but he can claim brotherhood with umunri. This where you guys get it wrong,mistaking umunri,umueri,iguedo etc even though they are all related.

The Eze Agwu lineage did not come from the Owerre axis.

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