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Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 3:11pm On Nov 03, 2012
Recently I changed d engine of my freelander to a camry engine. And guess wat,I can drive it for ever.d engine sat well,no vibrations,perfect cabrator,gear selector etc. D car is ok nw. Kudos to my mechanic
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 4:56pm On Nov 03, 2012
Honeyhill: Recently I changed d engine of my freelander to a camry engine. And guess wat,I can drive it for ever.d engine sat well,no vibrations,perfect cabrator,gear selector etc. D car is ok nw. Kudos to my mechanic

Interesting.

Can we see some pictures of the engine bay?
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by tampa1871: 5:31pm On Nov 03, 2012
If this is true as stated, then I salute the ingenuity of our people. Please let us know the innovative mechanical engineer that performed it.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 9:14pm On Nov 03, 2012
Ama upload d pics 2mao pls. Gave d car out for washing, .d mechanic told me casualy dat he could fix fix it. And he did. [color=#990000][/color]
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 9:30pm On Nov 03, 2012
Honeyhill: Ama upload d pics 2mao pls. Gave d car out for washing, .d mechanic told me casualy dat he could fix fix it. And he did.

Sweet! I look forward to seeing the pictures.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by sultaan(m): 2:17am On Nov 04, 2012
I think I will see a pig fly first

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 10:19am On Nov 04, 2012
sultaan: I think I will see a pig fly first

Lol...most likely pigs would fly first...

In terms of fitting a Toyota Camry engine to a Landrover Freelander, (at least in terms of space) it's possible. And adapter plate to mate the Toyota engine to the Landrover transmission will however be needed. The OP mentioned "Carburetor." So no ECU - how would the automatic trans TCU work?? It needs input from the engine ECU to determine shifts, based upon engine speed, load and the VSS input.

Let's assume the complete Toyota engine and transmission were used, what happens to the transfer case? The Camry is FWD, so no provision for AWD take-off. Then we shift to the next logical (ish) scenario - a transmission from a Toyota RAV-4, which of course would be the closest match to a 2,2 Camry engine, or a direct fit to an older 1,8 Camry motor (very old). Then there's the issue of matching the Freelander's front axles and propshaft to a Toyota transmission.

I doubt this "conversion" has taken place, and even if it did, the car would run like a dog. Pictures of the engine bay, and a phone video clip of the engine running smoothly would prove this worked. Otherwise I'd rather believe the sun would rise in the West and set in the East, before I'd believe this "conversion" took place.

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Lexusgs430: 3:13pm On Nov 04, 2012
Oh Yee of little-faith!!!
Honeyhill has promised to post pictures today, let's wait and see if the chickens or corks have grown teeth yet!!!

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 5:26pm On Nov 04, 2012
Dis was during d fixing stage....d engine came wt its compressor....am yet to fix d AC. D electrician disconectd d brain box from d engine bt alowed it to control oda tings....d shaft was constructd perfctly,

Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 5:33pm On Nov 04, 2012
More pics to come.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 6:01pm On Nov 04, 2012
Honeyhill: Dis was during d fixing stage....d engine came wt its compressor....am yet to fix d AC. D electrician disconectd d brain box from d engine bt alowed it to control oda tings....d shaft was constructd perfctly,

I spot a carburetor there... and that's an older Camry engine, from the "Orobo" shape or older (the 2,0 was never fitted to the small-light model and its facelift).

So...the Camry engine was fitted with a Toyota transmission (since you're mentioning shaft construction). So this car is now FWD, as opposed to AWD which is standard on the Freelander (and is the primary reason anyone would buy one).

If the ECU is now disconnected from the engine, what is it controlling? The engine ECU will only control the engine, and exchange data with the transmission control unit (TCU). This SUV is going to be one thirsty automobile - no control over fuelling, transmission shift points, and an older engine, coupled with a heavy SUV body.

It would have been much cheaper, and dare I say it, sensible to have purchased a Toyota RAV4 or a Honda CRV, than go through all this...

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 9:48am On Nov 05, 2012
Any more pictures? And perhaps a video showing a fully-functional Toyota Camry engine in a Landrover Freelander?
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by kuntash: 10:53am On Nov 05, 2012
No wonder the price of this engine has not come down, so dependable and strong.

thats a 3S-FE or 4S-FE engines for 1986-1991 Toyota camry.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by ikeyman00(m): 11:41am On Nov 05, 2012
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to the thread

with the loophole i have to say nobody did give a chance that the engine conversion will fit in

i think that should be respected!
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by sultaan(m): 9:52pm On Nov 05, 2012
kuntash: No wonder the price of this engine has not come down, so dependable and strong.

thats a 3S-FE or 4S-FE engines for 1986-1991 Toyota camry.

Are you sure you really mean a 2.0l 125hp motor from 1991 is a better engine than the EFI/DI engines in the market now.

He got a Freelander and tried to stick a ~1991 Camry engine in there.

From MSN autos it says its AWD SUV(even if it RWD) so because your mech is not good enough to rebuild/fix a Rover engine
stick a FWD+Trans in there hope your modified shaft and steering works, Trash the transfer case and driveshafts.
When you go driving down the road at 100kmph who do you think will likely end up in a wreck?
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 3:20pm On Nov 07, 2012
Honeyhill: Ama upload d pics 2mao pls. Gave d car out for washing, .d mechanic told me casualy dat he could fix fix it. And he did.

Any pictures yet, Honeyhill? If it's still being washed, (since the 04th November) it must qualify for one of the cleanest, most pampered automobile in Nigeria. Or the Toyota Camry engine / transmission conversion was so good, your car wash guy ran off with it. Or the "constructed" shafts failed, and the Freelander ended up wrapped round a tree.

The possibilities are endless, with a Freelander-Camry hybrid.

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 2:16pm On Nov 12, 2012
Any updates?
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by nissparts(m): 3:28pm On Nov 12, 2012
LMAO.
Sigh
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by leuelliot(m): 3:27pm On Nov 14, 2012
Update?? I'm camping on this thread until I see pics......
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 3:42pm On Dec 08, 2012
This Freelander's gone to the grave. I've no doubt this conversion was attempted, but I reckon the trnsplant went wrong, and the owner ended up with one messed-up car.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by sultaan(m): 6:37pm On Dec 08, 2012
OP missed Phy101 so he just paid for tuition from a mechanic who failed integrated science grin grin grin

Some new car owners have access to the internet to get all the information they need but they still listen to mechanics trained in 504 and beetles

That conversion is what legends are made of and its impossible with Nigerian mechanics(not engineers)

When they said universities are producing graduates not ready for real world.You just don't spend money on cars like that without being informed. N100k is being paid to your mechanic and you have no idea what he is doing! who is the tongue
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by skyfall: 7:41pm On Dec 08, 2012
This is one funny thread. Waiting patiently for the guy too.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by bravolad(m): 11:05pm On Dec 08, 2012
Amazingly astonishing...HoneyHill now in oblivion. Curiously waiting for further pix of the freelander-Toyota Camry hybrid.

Better still, we can declare him missing...hope there are some security agents in the house that help track him. Another option is to install a tracking devise in the hybrid to monitor performance.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Lexusgs430: 11:45pm On Dec 09, 2012
Seems like honeyhill has abandoned this thread. Because another thread has been opened, for a said suv/vehicle that seems to have backache when attempting to climb any hill (high or low gradients) !!!
I hope it's not the same freelander camry hybrid, that seems to have become hill - shy?
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by jeezybuck: 12:46pm On Dec 10, 2012
Siena warned you when you were seeking advise on swapping engine. Poster everyone is laughing at you , come and defend yourself with pictures ooooooo
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by sultaan(m): 1:42am On Dec 11, 2012
This project of Freelander-Toyota hybrid is bankrupt. The new one is a Ford Escape manual.

By the time his mech is done with him, the mech will be giving him a ride home.

Right now they are telling him he should have bought a Toyota or Honda; which they could have done before the take him for a fortune and ruined his car.

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 8:27am On Dec 12, 2012
Can't stop laughing... The car will be as sluggish as having a 2.0 engine on a trailer.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Ogojohn(m): 9:00am On Dec 12, 2012
P.U.S.H:
Can't stop laughing... The car will be as sluggish as having a 2.0 engine on a trailer.
SEEMS EVERYONE HERE ON THIS THREAD IS AN EXPERT. BUT I HAVE ONCE SEEN THAT SMALL FREE LANDER AT A MECHANIC WORKSHOP AT ONITSHA WITH A NISSAN BLUE BIRD ENGINE. ALTHOUGH I DD NOT SEE ITS MOVEMENT BUT THEY WERE JUST DOING BODY WORK ON THE VEHICLE AND I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THE CHANGE OVER WAS MADE BUT I DD NOT SUCCEED TO MEET THE OWNER. THE STRANGE PATH OF IT IS THAT THE VEHICLE WAS WITH A FOREIGN REGISTERED PLATE NUMBER. GUINEA WEST AFRICA.
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Ikenna351(m): 9:18am On Dec 12, 2012
Ogojohn: SEEMS EVERYONE HERE ON THIS THREAD IS AN EXPERT. BUT I HAVE ONCE SEEN THAT SMALL FREE LANDER AT A MECHANIC WORKSHOP AT ONITSHA WITH A NISSAN BLUE BIRD ENGINE. ALTHOUGH I DD NOT SEE ITS MOVEMENT BUT THEY WERE JUST DOING BODY WORK ON THE VEHICLE AND I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THE CHANGE OVER WAS MADE BUT I DD NOT SUCCEED TO MEET THE OWNER. THE STRANGE PATH OF IT IS THAT THE VEHICLE WAS WITH A FOREIGN REGISTERED PLATE NUMBER. GUINEA WEST AFRICA.

Never underestimate mechanics at Tinker, Coal Camp-Enugu and Mgbuka- Obosi, close to Onitsha. I grew up in the East and i can vouch for them for what i have seen them do. Science doesnt have answers to all our problems. Thats why the words "God & Faith" exist in the Bible and Dictionary.

My only issue with the conversion is "Why 2.0 I4 for a Freelander?" Funny enough, Freelander comes with factory I4 too.

As for the conversion, that something is impossible to one, doesn't mean its impossible to another. Those Tinka and Mgbuka guys might be illitrates not to understand science behind EFI electrics, but when it comes to pure mechanicals, they are something else. Even a dead part or component can be reconditioned there and would still work like new. You would know, if you are familiar with those two places.

Ikenna.

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 11:42am On Dec 12, 2012
Ikenna, the conversion isn't impossible. But not practical. The Freelander engine is mated to its AWD transmission. The Toyota engine will have to be mated to a Toyota transmission (note the OP mentions shaft construction). There's lots of room to end up with an SUV that's not going anywhere. The 1,8 I4 DOHC 16V motor doesn't make much more power than the 2,0 I4 DOHC 16V engine from the Camry.

But SUV engines are designed different - the emphasis is on torque very low down in the rev range, more suited to a heavier automobile, with AWD. The Camry engine will be way too peaky for the Freelander - it makes its peak power and torque to high up the rev range to be any good. It'll be thirsty as heck, assuming it ever drives. Then there's the issue with cut and welded driveshafts. I've seen these let go under load, and it's not pretty. It smashes through the floor, and comes into the passenger cell.

Science may not have all the answers (debatable) but it can't be cheated. And most of the problems with automobile in Nigeria re not manufacturer defects, they're brought home to roos by their owners. This is one automobile I would not entrust the lives of my family to.

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Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 9:10am On Dec 13, 2012
Actually I did not abandon dis thread....talking about my freelander wt camry engine.its d best car I've ever driven dis year..........am using it full time as it flys more dan a horse.......I've given my mechanic mket becos d whole calabar hv packed dia freelander in his wkshop,he just finished 1 two left....I have no chalenge watsoeva.fuel economy is perfect.d only pblem I have is dat d car speeds at any small match....
Re: Camry Engine For My Freelander 1999 Model by Nobody: 12:23pm On Dec 13, 2012
Honeyhill: Actually I did not abandon dis thread....talking about my freelander wt camry engine.its d best car I've ever driven dis year..........am using it full time as it flys more dan a horse.......I've given my mechanic mket becos d whole calabar hv packed dia freelander in his wkshop,he just finished 1 two left....I have no chalenge watsoeva.fuel economy is perfect.d only pblem I have is dat d car speeds at any small match....

Any chance of some pictures of the engine bay? And perhaps a short video clip of the engine bay, with the engine running? As well as satisfying our curiousity, you'll be doing your super mechanic a favour, by advertising his expertise. wink

As for the "speed" at the slightest touch of the gas pedal, that's gross exaggeration.

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