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Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:07pm On Nov 21, 2012
Son of God
November 17, 2012.

"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:3-4).

It is noteworthy that the identification of Jesus Christ as the Son of God is directly associated with His resurrection from the dead. "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" (1 Corinthians 15:26), and since only God Himself can conquer death, Christ’s bodily resurrection is the conclusive affirmation of His unique deity: "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16). Many others have claimed divine sonship, but all are dead--only Christ validated that claim by defeating death. "God . . . hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee" (Acts 13:33). "Death is swallowed up in victory . . . . through our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Corinthians 15:54, 57).

Jesus is explicitly called "the Son of God" about 44 times in the New Testament, only half as often as He is called "Son of man." Nevertheless, this great truth is clearly taught in numerous other ways than by the use of the title itself. It is so important that there is no salvation for the one who denies it. Jesus said plainly, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18 ).

Because He lives, we who believe on His name will also live forever! "Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? . . . He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life" (1 John 5:5, 12-13). HMM

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Re: Son Of God by Sweetnecta: 5:15pm On Nov 21, 2012
"Concerning his Son Olaadegbu our leader, which was made of the seed of lamurudu according to the flesh [se.x]; And declared to be the Son of oduduwa with power, according to the spirit of culture, ethnicity, by the resurrection from the fainting, exhaustion, collapse, deep sleep" (abinubi 1:3-4).


what is the difference between the above and the below?

"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:3-4).


as a yoruba man, you are identified with awolowo, lamurudu, oduduwa. or are you not?

i am sure neither awolowo, lamurudu or oduduwa has anything to do with your being here. same with Jesus and God. God is Creator. Jesus is created, like you and I.

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Re: Son Of God by advocate666: 5:38pm On Nov 21, 2012
The motherless son.
Bastard in heaven.
Illegitimate on earth.
Worshipped by Racas.
Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 5:50pm On Nov 21, 2012
and where did Jesus call himself the only son of God. . .?
Re: Son Of God by sunkoye: 5:59pm On Nov 21, 2012
Have you ever met a man who is the center of attention wherever he goes? Some mysterious, indefinable characteristic sets him apart from all other men. Well, that’s the way it was two thousand years ago with Jesus Christ. But it wasn’t merely Jesus’ personality that captivated those who heard him. Those who witnessed his words and life tell us that something about Jesus of Nazareth was different from all other men.

Jesus’ only credentials were himself. He never wrote a book, commanded an army, held a political office, or owned property. He mostly traveled within a hundred miles of his village, attracting crowds who were amazed at his provocative words and stunning deeds.

Yet Jesus’ greatness was obvious to all those who saw and heard him. And while most great people eventually fade into history books, Jesus is still the focus of thousands of books and unparalleled media controversy. And much of that controversy revolves around the radical claims Jesus made about himself—claims that astounded both his followers and his adversaries.

It was primarily Jesus’ unique claims that caused him to be viewed as a threat by both the Roman authorities and the Jewish hierarchy. Although he was an outsider with no credentials or political powerbase, within three years, Jesus changed the world for the next 20 centuries. Other moral and religious leaders have left an impact—but nothing like that unknown carpenter’s son from Nazareth.

What was it about Jesus Christ that made the difference? Was he merely a great man, or something more?

These questions get to the heart of who Jesus really was. Some believe he was merely a great moral teacher; others believe he was simply the leader of the world’s greatest religion. But many believe something far more. Christians believe that God has actually visited us in human form. And they believe the evidence backs that up.

C. S. Lewis initially considered Jesus a myth. But this literary genius who knew myths well, concluded that Jesus had to have been a real person. Furthermore, as Lewis investigated the evidence for Jesus, he became convinced that not only was Jesus real, but he was unlike any man who had ever lived. Lewis writes,
Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:13pm On Nov 21, 2012
sunkoye: Have you ever met a man who is the center of attention wherever he goes? Some mysterious, indefinable characteristic sets him apart from all other men. Well, that’s the way it was two thousand years ago with Jesus Christ. But it wasn’t merely Jesus’ personality that captivated those who heard him. Those who witnessed his words and life tell us that something about Jesus of Nazareth was different from all other men.

Jesus’ only credentials were himself. He never wrote a book, commanded an army, held a political office, or owned property. He mostly traveled within a hundred miles of his village, attracting crowds who were amazed at his provocative words and stunning deeds.

Yet Jesus’ greatness was obvious to all those who saw and heard him. And while most great people eventually fade into history books, Jesus is still the focus of thousands of books and unparalleled media controversy. And much of that controversy revolves around the radical claims Jesus made about himself—claims that astounded both his followers and his adversaries.

It was primarily Jesus’ unique claims that caused him to be viewed as a threat by both the Roman authorities and the Jewish hierarchy. Although he was an outsider with no credentials or political powerbase, within three years, Jesus changed the world for the next 20 centuries. Other moral and religious leaders have left an impact—but nothing like that unknown carpenter’s son from Nazareth.

What was it about Jesus Christ that made the difference? Was he merely a great man, or something more?

These questions get to the heart of who Jesus really was. Some believe he was merely a great moral teacher; others believe he was simply the leader of the world’s greatest religion. But many believe something far more. Christians believe that God has actually visited us in human form. And they believe the evidence backs that up.

C. S. Lewis initially considered Jesus a myth. But this literary genius who knew myths well, concluded that Jesus had to have been a real person. Furthermore, as Lewis investigated the evidence for Jesus, he became convinced that not only was Jesus real, but he was unlike any man who had ever lived. Lewis writes,


Good job my brother! C.S. Lewis surely says it as it is. Here is another excerpt from his book:

This is how C.S. Lewis explains it:

"A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said wouldn't be a great moral teacher. He'd either be a lunatic - on a level with the man who says he's a poached egg-or else he'd be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But don't let us come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He hasn't left that open to us. He didn't intend to" - C.S. Lewis, The Case for Christianity
Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 8:30pm On Nov 21, 2012
Jesus is just a man and a prophet of God just like the prophets before him. . .
Re: Son Of God by Sweetnecta: 11:13pm On Nov 21, 2012
Stop it C. S. Lewis. Jesus of the Bible is neither a lunatic nor the devil from hell.
however the biblical authors who lied on him may actually be both and some.

it is clear that Jesus didn't say most of what they say he said. You can say that i said its hanes just because others say i said its hanes.
What i didn't say, regardless of how anyone colors 'em, the reality is that i didn't say it, even if the proponent made it so convincing to you.

There is no yellow cake from niger republic regardless of the honesty of collin powell.

Truth is always the first and easiest victim, unless God preserves it. The preservation is in the Quran. Jesus [as] is vindicated.

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Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:42am On Nov 22, 2012
Sweetnecta:

Stop it C. S. Lewis. Jesus of the Bible is neither a lunatic nor the devil from hell.
however the biblical authors who lied on him may actually be both and some.

it is clear that Jesus didn't say most of what they say he said. You can say that i said its hanes just because others say i said its hanes.
What i didn't say, regardless of how anyone colors 'em, the reality is that i didn't say it, even if the proponent made it so convincing to you.

There is no yellow cake from niger republic regardless of the honesty of collin powell.

Truth is always the first and easiest victim, unless God preserves it. The preservation is in the Quran. Jesus [as] is vindicated.

This is the truth that you can't contain:

"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:3-4).

You should realise by now that the title of Son of God is not just a claim but has been attested by the evidence of His death and bodily resurrection which only God can do. This is where all false religions and cults become stuck. Tell me what leader or founder of any of the religions can lay claim to defeating death? They are all dead and buried in their tombs. The fact that Jesus died and rose from the dead the third day has become a stumbling block to the religious and unbelieving. His resurrection is the evidence you need to know that Jesus is the Son of God and by believing in Him you will have eternal life.

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18 ).

Where is Muhammad today? Is he not dead and buried? Why do you want to die in your sins? Are you trusting in a book that tells you that God turned some Jews into rats, pigs and monkeys? Is that what you want to believe as the truth? You cannot think crooked and walk straight. Jesus said that you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. The choice is yours: life or death, truth or lies and your decision will determine your destiny.

Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 2:36pm On Nov 22, 2012
^^And WHAT IS THE SIGN OF JONAH? Jesus said in the bible...and how many of Jesus disciples withness his cruxification or cruxifiction?
Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:55pm On Nov 22, 2012
tintingz:

^^And WHAT IS THE SIGN OF JONAH? Jesus said in the bible...and how many of Jesus disciples withness his cruxification or cruxifiction?

You don't want to play games with God the way Jonah did, do you?

Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 4:05pm On Nov 22, 2012
OLAADEGBU:
You don't want to play games with God the way Jonah did, do you?
who is talking about playing games is this a game section? ??
First Jesus said. . ."...they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonah the prophet. (Luke 11:29)"
and he said about the sign to come
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Mt 12:40)"
and my question is. . .was Jonah a dead man in the fish belly for 3days and nights??
Re: Son Of God by Sweetnecta: 9:56pm On Nov 22, 2012
@Olaadegbu:
by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:42am

This is the truth that you can't contain:

"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:3-4).
let be play with your mind for a moment by asking you questions you must provide evidential answers to.

who is the author of the romans verse above and what relationship or association did he have with Jesus to make such a bold claim?
why did none of the 12 disciples make such a claim, instead called Jesus a prophet, son of man, a man approved by God among the jews?
the 100's michael hart stated that christianity is formed by Paul and it is the doctrines of Paul that is preached while orders of Jesus are discarded. Jesus said the laws of prophets before him are in order and no one should abolish it. Is this true?

but Paul said the laws are nailed on the cross, meaning all of the laws are now discarded. Is this true?
who is correct, Jesus who said whoever abolishes them is the least and who ever practices them is the great or Paul who said they are now irrelevant?



You should realise by now that the title of Son of God is not just a claim but has been attested by the evidence of His death and bodily resurrection which only God can do.
i agree that God can raise the dead. in fact He will raise all dead people for Judgment. but if your saying that Jesus is confirmed as son of God [thank God you didnt say begotten here. i guess you are learning], then what does his rejected prayer not to die in the first place confirms him as if you say that he died after all of that prayers against death? It must serve as the opposite and far from what you claim, because God rejects prayers of people and raises people from death quite commonly.



This is where all false religions and cults become stuck.
i see that you forgot that you call some christians cultists; roman catholics that has been existing before protestants, the protestants that you belong to. the catholic used to call you, protestants cultists. i need to remind you that you all call the jehovah witnesses, the 7th day adventists, the mormons and others cultists. even from your ranks we have the appalachian snake handling church service people. just to show you that you are a cultist, the snake bites almost always send your brethren to the graves. oh. the jews you forgot. i know you are sleep typing. wake up, olaadegbu and smell the coffee.



Tell me what leader or founder of any of the religions can lay claim to defeating death?
satanism is a religion and i am sure that you know that satan is not dead and you claim that he even fought Yahweh? death has not even came to him. i see that you didnt mention Moses in the list of those who remained dead. but heck. Moses you say is the founder of Judaism and is the leader of this religion that you say Jesus practiced in stead of Islam that I say he practiced. we both agree that Jesus was not a christian and Paul is almost the exclusive founder. Paul is dea, too.



They are all dead and buried in their tombs. The fact that Jesus died and rose from the dead the third day has become a stumbling block to the religious and unbelieving.
not that i say he died. but the fact that you said he died is an evidence that he is not related to God more than Moses was, or Adam was, or Abraham was. Each was a prophet, human prophet leading his community to the Will of God and serving as the way to God to those who died in his time as followers, being believers in his mission. Noah prayed for distructions of the disbelievers of his time. they were wiped out. Moses prayed for the destructions of Pharaoh. He drowned. Moses prayed that those among his people who made a yahweh idol in form of cow in gold perish in the desert. they perished between after leaving Egypt but before getting to Jerusalem. Or was the distance between Cairo and Jerusalem decreased from what it used to be in the time of Moses? you say Jesus prayed to Yahweh all night that Jehovah saved him from death. instead, according to you, Yahweh sent a ghost to support him and in spite of this, you said Jesus was killed not by all men, but by few jews. This alone is an evdence that Jesus could not be a son of God since John was killed by the same jews, we have to say that they were humans, prophets. But not son of God because God has no need for a son. what purpose? who is God going to sacrifice His son to, Himself? who can make demand and force God to do anything?



His resurrection is the evidence you need to know that Jesus is the Son of God and by believing in Him you will have eternal life.
by my calculation, 3 nights and 3 days must extend to include the 3 nights. how is friday evening in the cave and ending by sunday morning amounting to 3 nights and 3 days? do you now anything about calculating 3 nights? it is always the dark hours when people sleep after a previous day end and waking up to a new day. give me 3 sleeping nights and then i will begin to consider you thinking as something worth considering. you have friday evening all the way to sunday dawn to get us 3 nights and 3 days.



"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18 ).
i see you whipping out the begotten son, again. dear beloved do not believe in every spirit, because so many false spirits have gone into the world. But test the spirit to see if it is from God. the spirit that says Jesus is Christ is of God. If you open the Quran, you will see where Jesus was called Christ [as].

Another test of spirit is that the prophet who speaks and whtat he says does not come to pass is a false prophet and do not fear him, because he shall die. Jesus according to you from the Bible that he will mae his return before all the 12 disciples died. All of them have long gone. I have to surprise you; Jesus didnt make it. all who say they are christians now are waiting for him to make that return. what is the conclusion if you consider that the prophet who speaks and what he speaks do not come to pass? You are not in any position to tell any muslim that you have a true religion. you are behaving like the jews in the time of Jesus, refusing to accept his guidance, thinking Moses was still it. they refused Jesus, thereby refused Moses without knowing it.



Where is Muhammad today? Is he not dead and buried?
of course he is dead like other previous prophets, Adam, Noah, Abraham, etc [as]. death does not diminish them? or you think so with that monotheistic religion is synanimous with Abraham, not Jesus and God according to you is God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob [all of these men died], the very God Jesus said is his God, lord Who is One, the One God that Jesus worshiped all night, begging and Who has the absolute Right to answer or ignore any prayers, including what you said he did ignore from Jesus.



Why do you want to die in your sins?
so that God can forgive me. so that i humble myself and be grateful that God forgives me. so that God can ransom me. so that Muhammad [sa] can intersede for me when he make prostration to God praying the Praised Worthy.


Are you trusting in a book that tells you that God turned some Jews into rats, pigs and monkeys?
Ye. 100% trust in that Book because of turning humans into monkeys is a miracle. see both were in living state; live humans became live moneys.


Is that what you want to believe as the truth?
yes. it is absolutely unique and it is not saying God is 1 at the beginning and at the end 3 or human is God.



You cannot think crooked and walk straight.
this is crookedness: after it has been declared that God is not a man, suddenly the man Jesus is God. you want more?



Jesus said that you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
Jesus, servant of God. Jesus, Your servant who You sent. These are truth. not the laws have been nailed to the cross, a different gospel from Paul.


The choice is yours: life or death, truth or lies and your decision will determine your destiny.
all shall die.the truth is 1. it is lie that is always more than 1. in your case your lie is 3. in the case of hindus, its numerous.
Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:34pm On Nov 23, 2012
tintingz:

who is talking about playing games is this a game section? ??
First Jesus said. . ."...they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonah the prophet. (Luke 11:29)"
and he said about the sign to come
"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Mt 12:40)"
and my question is. . .was Jonah a dead man in the fish belly for 3days and nights??

The bolded is self explanatory.

"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whales's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" The Evidence Bible.

To the 1st century Jews, any part of a day could be counted as if it were a full day, just as a child born December 31 at 23:59 hours is deductible for income tax purposes for the full year. "three days and three nights" may simply refer to three 24hr days i.e. sunset to sunset periods, and Jesus was in fact in the tomb during part of the 3 different days.

Was Jonah a dead man in the fish belly for 3 days? Lets hear it from the horse's mouth.

"Then Jonah prayed to the LORD his God out of the fish's belly, And said, I cried by reason of my affliction to the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and you heard my voice" (Jonah 2:1-2).

Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 2:56pm On Nov 23, 2012
^^lol. . .belly of hell. . .which hell? can a dead body shout to God? You didnt answer my question. . .did Jonah die in the big fish belly for three days and night? Cuz Jesus used Jonah to describe his grave...
Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:16pm On Nov 23, 2012
Jonah learnt his lesson from the university of Whales. It will be wise if you learn from him and from the Ninevites who repented after taking heed to God's warning.

Re: Son Of God by Sweetnecta: 3:36pm On Nov 23, 2012
olaadegbu is a joke needed to be left alone. i am doing just that because nothing good or intelligent is coming from your posts:
you cant even define or support the claim of God son, except that you freeze all rational and just blindly make absurd conclusion to it.
you cant defend how Jesus is the only way to God for man, when Adam and other prophets appeared before him and led many believers to God. Evidently Joshua was not led to God by Jesus. Joshua did not need Jesus and there is no evidence that he knew Jesus will ever be created and sent to the jews.
you cant defend death or it being for 3 nights and 3 days. you do not have evidence for it and there s no mathematical calculation that you can employ to get 3 nights and 3 days out of friday evening to sunday early [dawn] morning.

you cant even prove that no one came after Jesus because from your Bible Paul wrote over 50% of NT and said no new thing that you will say is leading him to be dubiously another comforter because he was not a prophet. That prophet was being expected and being the another comforter must teach to all things, including what is true that Jesus taught that he will affirm and what Jesus found his disciples to be immature to learn because of their little faith.

dialoguing with you is like watching tom and jerry cartoon show.

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Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:43pm On Nov 23, 2012
Sweetnecta: olaadegbu is a joke needed to be left alone. i am doing just that because nothing good or intelligent is coming from your posts:
you cant even define or support the claim of God son, except that you freeze all rational and just blindly make absurd conclusion to it.
you cant defend how Jesus is the only way to God for man, when Adam and other prophets appeared before him and led many believers to God. Evidently Joshua was not led to God by Jesus. Joshua did not need Jesus and there is no evidence that he knew Jesus will ever be created and sent to the jews.
you cant defend death or it being for 3 nights and 3 days. you do not have evidence for it and there s no mathematical calculation that you can employ to get 3 nights and 3 days out of friday evening to sunday early [dawn] morning.

you cant even prove that no one came after Jesus because from your Bible Paul wrote over 50% of NT and said no new thing that you will say is leading him to be dubiously another comforter because he was not a prophet. That prophet was being expected and being the another comforter must teach to all things, including what is true that Jesus taught that he will affirm and what Jesus found his disciples to be immature to learn because of their little faith.

dialoguing with you is like watching tom and jerry cartoon show.

Olabowale the story teller! grin I will attend to your ramblings when I have the time but for now watch this pikshur.

Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 8:06pm On Nov 23, 2012
OLAADEGBU: Jonah learnt his lesson from the university of Whales. It will be wise if you learn from him and from the Ninevites who repented after taking heed to God's warning.
you failed man. . .you cant defend nor give answers to my question. . .
Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:10am On Nov 24, 2012
tintingz:

you failed man. . .you cant defend nor give answers to my question. . .

If your kweshuns have nothing to do with the topic then am afraid that you've missed the road. When you repent you will then discover God's purpose for your life and then fulfil it as Jonah did. That is what I want you to take away from Jonah's experience.

Re: Son Of God by advocate666: 6:00am On Nov 24, 2012
Ola do you have any cartoons on the songs of solomon?
kiss
Re: Son Of God by tintingz(m): 8:58am On Nov 24, 2012
^^lol. . .you wanna see sexx cartoons and positions tongue grin
Re: Son Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:31pm On Nov 24, 2012
advocate666:

Ola do you have any cartoons on the songs of solomon?
kiss

If it is romance you want Adam and Eve broke that record in the garden of Eden.

Re: Son Of God by OsunOriginal: 11:16pm On Nov 24, 2012
sunkoye: Have you ever met a man who is the center of attention wherever he goes? Some mysterious, indefinable characteristic sets him apart from all other men. Well, that’s the way it was two thousand years ago with Jesus Christ. But it wasn’t merely Jesus’ personality that captivated those who heard him. Those who witnessed his words and life tell us that something about Jesus of Nazareth was different from all other men.

Jesus’ only credentials were himself. He never wrote a book, commanded an army, held a political office, or owned property. He mostly traveled within a hundred miles of his village, attracting crowds who were amazed at his provocative words and stunning deeds.

Yet Jesus’ greatness was obvious to all those who saw and heard him. And while most great people eventually fade into history books, Jesus is still the focus of thousands of books and unparalleled media controversy. And much of that controversy revolves around the radical claims Jesus made about himself—claims that astounded both his followers and his adversaries.

It was primarily Jesus’ unique claims that caused him to be viewed as a threat by both the Roman authorities and the Jewish hierarchy. Although he was an outsider with no credentials or political powerbase, within three years, Jesus changed the world for the next 20 centuries. Other moral and religious leaders have left an impact—but nothing like that unknown carpenter’s son from Nazareth.

What was it about Jesus Christ that made the difference? Was he merely a great man, or something more?

These questions get to the heart of who Jesus really was. Some believe he was merely a great moral teacher; others believe he was simply the leader of the world’s greatest religion. But many believe something far more. Christians believe that God has actually visited us in human form. And they believe the evidence backs that up.

C. S. Lewis initially considered Jesus a myth. But this literary genius who knew myths well, concluded that Jesus had to have been a real person. Furthermore, as Lewis investigated the evidence for Jesus, he became convinced that not only was Jesus real, but he was unlike any man who had ever lived. Lewis writes,


And if we also begin to talk about Timi Agbale Olofa Ina - how powerful he was during his time. Fire could come out from his mouth and his arrow - Very strange fellow as well.
Re: Son Of God by Sweetnecta: 2:38pm On Nov 25, 2012

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