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Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by henryiv: 6:27am On Dec 09, 2012
Gender equality revolves around equal treatment of both sexes.This idea of gender equality is vigorously pushed by feminists,who perceived partriachy as a structure relegating the status of women in politics,sociocultural and economic aspects.The international community has exhorted countries to be gender sensitive so as to be respected in the comity of countries.However,in spite of this,some factors have proved intractable to dismantle the structure of patriarchy,an ideology that places man above woman in all ramifications.These factors are: intellectual justification,male egoism,cultural justification and religion. Untill these factors are tackled properly the idea of gender equality will continued to be a figment of imagination.Be that as it may,it is worthy of mention that the status of women has been considerably elevated as it were prior to 19 century.

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Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by AtheistD(m): 7:33am On Dec 09, 2012
fellis:

Thank you so much for sharing your opinion Mr. Chauvinist woman-hater!!!!! smiley

Why throw insults? You asked for his opinion and he gave it.

I believe both are equal. Women have every right to expect the same quality of life as men. They should also fight for it too.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Reelax(m): 8:27am On Dec 09, 2012
Let things b pixd d way there really, dy r nt equal save d equality of allowing each other play their respective roles. It should be noted dat they r not 2b on competing note rather it is complementary.
my mother would not earn4d family just as father would not carry d pregnancy! I'd nt b in kitchen while my 6ta rakes d field or fixes d fence. We all av our roles whch dnt necessarily av to set 4contest but complement instead! All fingers r nt equal- man n woman too!
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by bknight: 8:47am On Dec 09, 2012
She go wan take piece of meat before any body
She go wan siddon 4 seat b4 any body
She go say she equal to man
She go say she get power like man
She go say anything man fit do im sef fit do

I neva tell u finish
I neva tell u finish...brb undecided
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by AyeeIdris(f): 9:25am On Dec 09, 2012
fellis:
So you believe men are superior to you? Do you believe that those agberos and pick pockets in motor parks are superior to you? They are also men.

Where in my post did you get the inference that men are superior to women? I tire for u. Its impossible to get gender equality cos men and women are unique in their differences. What we need is gender equity that provides for the uniqueness of both parties. Male and female. Simple english oooo
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Denise216(f): 9:54am On Dec 09, 2012
fellis: I want to have an idea of what the general trend among Nigerians is on the issue of whether women and men are equal.
Your opinions on the matter will be appreciated.

I'm not Nigerian, I'm an Atheist, I don't like or want children, I married a good looking man who feels the same, and I don't have to clean my own home.
Anything is possible.

*serious face now*

Frankly speaking, Nigeria's economic and social development thus far and in the future will yield to relative equality. Complete and total Egalitarianism will never happen.

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Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 10:04am On Dec 09, 2012
Denise216:

I'm not Nigerian, I'm an Atheist, I don't like or want children, I married a good looking man who feels the same, and I don't have to clean my own home.
Anything is possible.

Frankly speaking, Nigeria's economic and social development thus far and in the future will yield to relative equality. Complete and total Egalitarianism will never exist.
please,where are you from?
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Denise216(f): 10:06am On Dec 09, 2012
centje: please,where are you from?

There is only one place I could get away with being a Happy Heathen, Californication in the US of A.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 10:29am On Dec 09, 2012
Denise216:

There is only one place I could get away with being a Happy Heathen, Californication in the US of A.
you're welcome to the green land! cool
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Denise216(f): 10:30am On Dec 09, 2012
centje: you're welcome to the green land! cool

Thx cheesy
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Sagamite(m): 2:33pm On Dec 09, 2012
stagger: Gender equality is a misnomer because men and women can never be equal. They are complimentary. Just as you need positive and negative to produce electricity, you cannot have positive alone or negative alone producing electricity.

It is about giving women the opportunities to be something in life just like the men, so that the level of complement will be enhanced. It is not men taking over women's roles and women taking over men's roles, but rather empowering the woman for her to be able to fulfill her roles to a higher degree. That is what "gender equality" is all about.

*Standing Ovation*

https://www.nairaland.com/942597/why-women-own-worst-enemies/13#13209893
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Sagamite(m): 2:36pm On Dec 09, 2012
zanga420: You said it all. The problem is ladies drag hand where they're not specialist. If you get 2understand the areas they drag this foolish right U'll laugh. Eg U'll see a lady complaining that male n female soccer players should be paid equally. Sometimes some 'cos they believe men work they eat play tricks/prancks in work n when not rewarded they should blue murder, inequality. Thank God they hardworking 1s get rewarded. Sometimes they leave their specialities n d guys'll make those places work. Eg the pedicure n fashion industry. And alot of areas let me hold it 4now

They must be reetarded!

Still pisses me off about how Wimbledon agreed to pay women the same prize money as the men.

You do less worrk but want equal pay? What rubbish!

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Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Sagamite(m): 2:43pm On Dec 09, 2012
trolling: if a woman is equal to a man then why wasnt she created the same day Adam was created or why was she taken out of a man, why wasnt she taken out of the elements like Adam, why didnt she get her instruction from God directly when she was taken out of Adam but was rather instructed by Adam or why was she in the outer court of the temple while the men was in the inner court or why is she prohibited from the temple on certain period of the month or why did God say to her He shall rule over you or why did Sarah call Abraham master.Or why would seven women beg a man to take their names in the nearest future.

Shut up, person!

If you want to talk your mythical shyt, head to the religion section.

Here, talk SENSE!
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Abagworo(m): 5:19pm On Dec 09, 2012
I believe in gender equality but the roles of the sexes are quite different. The major reason why people assume women are badly treated is because of the more complex sexuality of women. They have periodic cycle as well as bear and breast-feed children. During the periods of pregnancy and nursing men still go about their normal business while women must carry and breast-feed the baby. However apart from this complex sexuality of women, I see no much differences in both sexes.

Some ill informed women abandon their babies and family for their career just to claim equality with men. That is wrong as breast-feeding and taking care of your child does not make you less than a man.

Some men too suffer from same complex especially when their wives have better jobs and are earning more.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 5:38pm On Dec 09, 2012
Ayee Idris:

Where in my post did you get the inference that men are superior to women? I tire for u. Its impossible to get gender equality cos men and women are unique in their differences. What we need is gender equity that provides for the uniqueness of both parties. Male and female. Simple english oooo

What do you mean simple english o? You didn't write anything to show that you don't believe men are superior, you only said you don't believe in gender equality and then you started talking about how women get maternity leaves and men don't, what other inference did you expect me to draw from your post? Express your point more clearly next time if you don't want to be misunderstood.

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Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 5:41pm On Dec 09, 2012
Atheist:-D:


Why throw insults? You asked for his opinion and he gave it.

.

I cannot understand how anyone would read that statement and think it is an insult.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 6:18pm On Dec 09, 2012
Abagworo: I believe in gender equality but the roles of the sexes are quite different. The major reason why people assume women are badly treated is because of the more complex sexuality of women. They have periodic cycle as well as bear and breast-feed children. During the periods of pregnancy and nursing men still go about their normal business while women must carry and breast-feed the baby. However apart from this complex sexuality of women, I see no much differences in both sexes.

Some ill informed women abandon their babies and family for their career just to claim equality with men. That is wrong as breast-feeding and taking care of your child does not make you less than a man.

Some men too suffer from same complex especially when their wives have better jobs and are earning more.


So a man can not take care of the baby as well? Dont men abandon their children as well?
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by wiegraf: 8:14pm On Dec 09, 2012
Random 1

All people are different, so I suppose we should have different rules for all regardless of gender, yes? So, a dude like messi shouldn't be playing football, he's too small. He even needed medication to get to his current size, he should not have been supported and just left to live his life as a mere earthling, like the rest of us. Ronaldo, Heskey, andy carrol, etc are clearly the opposite; excellent athletes that should be given our full support from the get go. This isn't the best example, there are lots of other good short footballers, but you should get the point. Tiger woods played in a club a mere ~10 years after the club started accepting black people onto it's premises, so a few years earlier they wouldn't have let in one of the sports best ever because he was black. Switch race for gender here, it's that simple

Random 2

Women shoot themselves in the foot consistently. Quite a few may have been given equal opportunities but botched them up royally (though society may be a harsh judge). Pushing for equality for women is quite silly at times as they seem perfectly happy. They may even berate you for spoiling their blissful existence.

A few things to consider. For instance, this doesn't mean all women are content sitting on their a$$es tending to their superior masters all day. There were quite a few black people happy being slaves. In fact, they didn't know they were slaves, shades of stockholm syndrome etc. That certainly does not mean all slaves were happy, or that slavery was right.

As for why some seem irrationally against women who don't fit the stereotypes, from an evolutionary perspective it would seem the docile, pliable woman won. The one who demanded her way probably didn't have as many babies as the meek one, who was probably turned into a baby making machine. Her genes spread, her girls inherit her traits.

And the general coyness of women with regards to relationships, they have to find a mate who would stick around to raise babies, hence the shenanigans. Again, evolution favors this breed of woman, they are successful with the baby raising, unlike the s.luts (I approve of sl.uts btw).

For these reasons you find that the trend across cultures is to vilify strong and/or slu.tty women. It's genetic, in a manner of speak, so some people get instinctively disgusted when they come across these, even fellow women. So for these reasons (and probably others) you find quite a few women being their own worst enemies.

But that thinking belongs in the stone age, when life expectancy was roughly 30, ethics were built around kill or be killed, etc. An era where it might have been useful.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 8:39pm On Dec 09, 2012
^ Is there any scientific proof to your theory of docile women being favored over strong ones or is it just an assumption you made? Because if there is I would like to see it, maybe post a link or something.

You didn't even mention your own opinion. Do you believe in equality or not?
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by MissyB3(f): 10:52pm On Dec 09, 2012
Yes! Men and women are very much equal. Perhaps, different, but equal. Why? Nor be the same amount of head, hands, legs, eyes, mouth and all whatnot we get?

If at all, for some inscrutable reason we're to illude ourselves into buying the idea of superiority amongst humans, it has to be based on more fundamental and valuable characteristics than just on a reproductive organ.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 11:11pm On Dec 09, 2012
Missy_B: Yes! Men and women are very much equal. Perhaps, different, but equal. Why? Nor be the same amount of head, hands, legs, eyes, mouth and all whatnot we get?

If at all, for some inscrutable reason we're to illude ourselves into buying the idea of superiority amongst humans, it has to be based on more fundamental and valuable characteristics than just on a reproductive organ.


Superiority is based on religion and patriarchal culture not commonsense.


You can see that the hypocrite called Fellis, avoided answering my question on her religion (islam) and the inferiority of women in that religion
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by dublinkmy6: 11:25pm On Dec 09, 2012
Every living thing created by God demonstrates why the male is the head. Q.E.D.
Atheists/feminists, e.t.c. take note.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by wiegraf: 11:26pm On Dec 09, 2012
fellis: ^ Is there any scientific proof to your theory of docile women being favored over strong ones or is it just an assumption you made? Because if there is I would like to see it, maybe post a link or something.
I remember reading it in an E. O. Wilson (a famous evolutionary biologist) article, but I can't find it atm. Though iirc even in the book he hadn't studied it himself, he just asserted that promiscuous women would be persecuted for these reasons. This would have to do for now I suppose

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_role#Anthropology_and_evolution

Opens with:
"The idea that differences in gender roles originate in differences in biology has found support in parts of the scientific community. 19th-century anthropology sometimes used descriptions of the imagined life of paleolithic hunter-gatherer societies for evolutionary explanations for gender differences. For example, those accounts maintain that the need to take care of offspring may have limited the females' freedom to hunt and assume positions of power."

Gender roles are a cultural universal, studied by evolutionary psychology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology#Cultural_universals

And quoting that as well:
"Evolutionary psychologists hold that behaviors or traits that occur universally in all cultures are good candidates for evolutionary adaptations. Cultural universals include behaviors related to language, cognition, social roles, gender roles, and technology. Evolved psychological adaptations (such as the ability to learn a language) interact with cultural inputs to produce specific behaviors (e.g., the specific language learned). Basic gender differences, such as greater eagerness for sex among men and greater coyness among women, are explained as sexually dimorphic psychological adaptations that reflect the different reproductive strategies of males and females. Evolutionary psychologists contrast their approach to what they term the "standard social science model," according to which the mind is a general-purpose cognition device shaped almost entirely by culture."

Lots of other articles on sociobiology and evolutionary biology pointing that way. But I don't have the time go through them atm and get more clear cut evidence. So yeah, take from that what you will

fellis:
You didn't even mention your own opinion. Do you believe in equality or not?

That's why I labeled the post 'random'. But the last paragraph more or else states my opinion; gender roles are needless, especially in this day and age.

We clearly evolved differently though, but there's no such thing as an overall 'better' person. For some task one person may be better than the next, gender has little to do with it (except of course for physical tasks), but there's no such thing as an overall better person. And women have to make babies so they're overall behavior tends to point in a direction different to men's, but that doesn't mean all women want those things. Or that they can't achieve what the men (the traditional hunters) do if they wanted to.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 11:35pm On Dec 09, 2012
dublinkmy6: Every living thing created by God demonstrates why the male is the head. Q.E.D.
Atheists/feminists, e.t.c. take note.


Why should atheist take note of your imaginary skydaddy
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Abagworo(m): 5:42am On Dec 10, 2012
Logicboy03:


Superiority is based on religion and patriarchal culture not commonsense.


You can see that the hypocrite called Fellis, avoided answering my question on her religion (islam) and the inferiority of women in that religion

There also exists maternal culture for example in Igbo and Ijaw areas where women control lineage and inheritance. I'm sure of Nembe and Ohafia. Does that mean that in Ohafia and Nembe, women are superior? The answer is NO. We are equal but play different roles.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 6:31am On Dec 10, 2012
Abagworo:

There also exists maternal culture for example in Igbo and Ijaw areas where women control lineage and inheritance. I'm sure of Nembe and Ohafia. Does that mean that in Ohafia and Nembe, women are superior? The answer is NO. We are equal but play different roles.




Women control lineage? lol......ignorance. No one controls lineage,some people choose to identify more with their maternal side. Others choose the paternal


What roles can a man play that a woman cant? Head of the family?
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 8:56am On Dec 10, 2012
wiegraf:
Evolutionary psychologists contrast their approach to what they term the "standard social science model," according to which the mind is a general-purpose cognition device shaped almost entirely by culture."
Lots of other articles on sociobiology and evolutionary biology pointing that way. But I don't have the time go through them atm and get more clear cut evidence. So yeah, take from that what you will
I see. I was thinking the psychologically distinguishing characteristics we see in the majority of women (reacting with emotions faster than men, less sëx drive etc) have always been in the proportion it is in presently. I never thought there was ever a time that women with differing psychological make up were in the same proportion to the ones whose behaviors are currently held as standard models for feminine behavior. It is likely to be true though, that study I mean, because early females tended to prefer males with typical male sexual characteristics i.e stronger and more dominant males since they desired that these traits be passed on to their offsprings to increase its chances of survival so maybe men also did their own selection of weaker and docile females and that is how we got here today.
lol

That's why I labeled the post 'random'. But the last paragraph more or else states my opinion; gender roles are needless, especially in this day and age.
We clearly evolved differently though, but there's no such thing as an overall 'better' person.
A lot of men want to remain in the position where they are considered the superior gender and so they prefer to ignore or to live in denial of the fact that both sexes are meant to compliment each other. I can't say I blame them though, it is natural for people to want to have the upper hand over others as much as possible but this their way of thinking appears to be causing more harm than benefit (esp in marriages) but that is an issue for another day.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 9:00am On Dec 10, 2012
Logicboy03:
Superiority is based on religion and patriarchal culture not commonsense.
You can see that the hypocrite called Fellis, avoided answering my question on her religion (islam) and the inferiority of women in that religion
That insult was uncalled for. You and Somali5 had already derailed and defaced this thread with your discussion on whose country is better. I wasn't going to help you derail it further by turning the thread into a religious discussion that was why I ignored that part of your post.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 9:05am On Dec 10, 2012
fellis:
That insult was uncalled for. You and Somali5 had already derailed and defaced this thread with your discussion on whose country is better. I wasn't going to help you derail it further by turning the thread into a religious discussion that was why I ignored that part of your post.



Who is asking for a religious discussion?


You cant mention gender equality and neglect the issue of religion and culture which are the major detrimental factors to gender equality.


You know as a muslim, you are a hypocrite if you as a woman claim to be for gender equality.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 10:23am On Dec 10, 2012
Logicboy03:
Who is asking for a religious discussion?
You cant mention gender equality and neglect the issue of religion and culture which are the major detrimental factors to gender equality.
You know as a muslim, you are a hypocrite if you as a woman claim to be for gender equality.
Islam does not discriminate against women, end of story.
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Sagamite(m): 10:28am On Dec 10, 2012
fellis:
Islam does not discriminate against women, end of story.

So Islam gives women equality?
Re: Do You Believe In Gender Equality? If Yes/no, Why? by Nobody: 10:37am On Dec 10, 2012
Sagamite:
So Islam gives women equality?

Yes it does. Also, no religious discussions on this thread wink
By the way, I was surprised to see you agree with stagger's post. I always imagined you believe in male superiority.

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