9ja-m:
loool i talk about the new generation of kru u post on this topic(especially bhete), it's the case for the orthers kru

Sybellah: aa ok i c
so some of the Ijaws have kru ancestry....can u please give out a few ijaw names so we can see how similar they are?
And how close are the bassa, bete-jukun and ijaws in Nigeria? They say the Bete-junkun come from Taraba state, i ve been wondering if they had any link to the Bete in CIV. Also, Ivo and I think the Baasa from lib are the same with the Bete, and that all Bassa located in different countries are related according to some sources. How well do u know the Bassa of Naija?

9ja-m:
ok some ijaw names (Ibinagbo Erekeshima, Emaara,Ebisdor, ebipade, ebiegberi, ebieri) here in paris i know some bete men and they name is similar to igbo name (okou, we say oku and obou=obu and yobo) but i don't know the bete jukun and bassa ( we have lot of tribe in naija)

Sybellah:

umh i c
Some look a bit close like Ibinagbo for example, we have Inabo, Ebipade we have Kpade, also Padre, and Ebiegberi, we have Gbery (so in these 3 names, for the Ijaws there is Ebi/Ibi at the beginning of the name) do you know if Ebi means something specific?
They say the Bete-Junkun are almost extinct, do you know the people living in Taraba state?

Sybellah:


They say the Bete-Junkun are almost extinct, do you know some of the ethnic groups living in Taraba state?

Sybellah:

umh i c
Some look a bit close like Ibinagbo for example, we have Inabo, Ebipade we have Kpade, also Padre, and Ebiegberi, we have Gbery (so in these 3 names, for the Ijaws there is Ebi/Ibi at the beginning of the name) do you know if Ebi means something specific?
They say the Bete-Junkun are almost extinct, do you know some of the ethnic groups living in Taraba state?

9ja-m:
Ebi means god selected good, yea i can see some similarity with some ivorian bete name, i thinks also bete, kru and ijaw are the same (but the language is different)

9ja-m:
sorry but yobo is ogoni name not igbo name

Sybellah:

aa ok, yeaa they can be possibly related. If there are sources stating it, then there should be a link somewhere
These are a few Kru names, can u tell if there are some close Ijaws name

Lago (means God in Bete)
Tape
Taiba (Taheeba)
Sery
Ibo
Meleke same in ijaw
Oula
Oulai (pronunced Oulahee)
Digbeu
Dalo
Pado
Atto attorney
Wledji
Djehi
Zadi
Ble
...

9ja-m:
Meleke same in ijaw

Sybellah:

Meleke I think is Guere (Khran in Lib), I know a few nigerian names, that we find in CIV as well, but there are not necessarily kru names: Adou (Adu), Adouba, Yagba, Agbo, Kalou...

9ja-m:
wowww have a lot in common please what is the tribe of these names)

Sybellah:

Yea i dun think the differences are that much except for the languages, it's west africa na
These are mostly Akan names, except for Kalou which is Gouro

Sybellah:

Yea i dun think the differences are that much except for the languages, it's west africa na
These are mostly Akan names, except for Kalou which is Gouro

9ja-m:
yea we are the same!!!! but i think some ivorian tribe come from eastern part of nigeria, some people pic's u post here look like naija

9ja-m:
could u talk about gouro tribe please

Sybellah:

maybe, and the reverse is possible we dunno but i wish more study could be conducted on it tho, cuz i think at the core, many ethnic groups are the same, but separated through time due to quarrels and stuff
seriously i think looks in CIV overlaps with most countries in West Africa

Sybellah:

The Gouro are one of the oldest pple in CIV, they are supposed to be south mande (but their similarities with some Bhete groups are important). They are located in the center between the Baoule (east), Bete (west), Mandinka (north). Before that they used to be in the east but were pushed back to the west when the Baoule migrated. They are well known for their mask and dances...

9ja-m:
yea because cote d'ivoire is geographically in the center of west africa

9ja-m:
interesting

Sybellah:

yea i think u right i have never looked at it from this angle
this plus past migration explain it all, but there are CIV people as well that migrated to other countries like ghana and togo as well like the tchokosi for example

9ja-m:
ok i didn't know tchokosi people i will do some research about them, but i just know akan migration from ghana to and kru migration from civ to liberia and mande from mali and burkina faso to civ

Sybellah

yup maaaan for the Akan i am so confuseeed! Some sources say they were originally in CIV, migrated to Ghana, then some came back to CIV,
looking at it, except for the Baoule, i ain't even sure that the other migrated.
The Senoufo as well are originally from CIV and some migrated north to Mali and Burkina, their location were more in the south but they have been pushed back to the north by the Baoule migration as well. Also Kru from Lib claim to have migrated from CIV. And most CIV mandikas come from Guinea or Mali. With Burkina we share more the Lobi and Senoufo. There are mandinka in Burkina as well but i believe them too migrated from Mali.

The tchokosi are the descendant of Baoule/Agni and Mandinka. They are a mix of these 2 cultures. Their language sounds akan, but they are usually muslim. They are located in the north of Togo.

9ja-m:
ok for the akan could u give me ur source it's very interesting to know that they are originally from civ and migrated to ghana, for the kru, yea they say they come from civ i will post here my source and please what is different between senoufou and mandinka they look very similar

Sybellah:

I have seen it online, i ll look again for the source and post it for u

Senoufo and Mandinkas are not the same oo, Senoufo are Gur speaking, Mandinka are Northern Mandes
The Senoufo have been invaded by the Mandinka and many converted to islam. Today many senoufos have the same last names as mandinka, but to make the difference u should look at their 1st name. U see Yaya and Kolo toure for example, well Yaya is a muslim name, mandinkas use muslim or corrupted muslim 1st names, with mandinka last name. But Yaya Toure's 1st name is Gnegneri (Yaya is his muslim name), which is Senoufo, Kolo is also a senoufo name (his muslim name is Habib), and Toure is a Mandinka last name.
Some Senoufo kept their last names tho: Soro, Sekongo, Yeo, Kigbafori, Fologo,Gbon...

9ja-m:
ok thanks @sybella for the informations, i love ur country and his culture so much

Sybellah:

anytime bro
and the love is shared, i love naija too
next time, i ll be askin u questions about Naija cuz now gotta run
stay tuned and enjoy yo day

ivorian225: hey @Syb on skype pas un peu??

9ja-m:
oh oh i don't know naija very well ooh because i didn't grow up in naija, i grew up between england and france