i.chuka:

Where is it written in the bible that from His pre existence He has always been GODs servant?

ijawkid:

Where were you when the trinity was been trampled on on other threads??.....now you Are asking questions like a baby..........

Jesus is Gods servants.......if you like dey there dey struggle with truth....

Bidam: ayam not distracting from any question you asked..if u like look @ it as if it means anoda thing...Jesus said I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE...NO ONE(boomark,ijawkid,bidam,chuka) CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME...if u like quote genesis to revelations. witout Jesus your so called "jehovah" is just like the god of islam,budhist etc..no difference.

Bidam: shut your trap..you might as well be a muslim cos they accept ur views.

ijawkid:

Smh!!!!!!........go and read isaiah my freind and see things for yourself...........long before Jesus was sent,the scriptures ideÑtified him as Gods holy servant.........even Jesus openly acknowledged he is GODs servant when on earth.....then 1 corinthians 15:24-28 which you and bidam have been dodging shows Jesus would remain the subject or subordinate he is forever..........
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Look at these respective scriptures and then go to sleep....

Isaiah 53:11
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be
satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will
justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
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Matthew 12:17 $ 18

17 This was
to fulfill what was spoken
through the prophet Isaiah:
18 “Here is[b]my servant[/b] whom
I have chosen,
the one I love, in whom I
delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will proclaim justice
to the nations.
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Acts 3:13
13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified
his[b]servant[/b] Jesus. You handed him over to be
killed, and you disowned him before Pilate,
though he had decided to let him go
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Jesus remains a servant and a subordinate to GOD yesterday,today and forever more..........

That is why GOD calls Jesus my holy servant and Jesus in
turn calls the Father my GOD..........

These are clear truths you have chosen to walk away from............just as
we are and remain slaves of CHRIST §o also CHRIST is and remains a slave(servant) of GOD..........chikena.............

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And I'm leaving your thread.............bye bye.....

Bidam: abegi...go sleep..u no get talk..stop being angry like farasee and sad to see pple..na flesh dey talk inside u jare..go back and study d scriptures.

Bidam: lol..abeg stay no run..you need to give your life to CHRIST..LOOK AT WHAT JESUS TELL ME TO TELL YOU IJAWKID THIS MORNING: "I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WHOEVER HEARS MY WORD AND BELIEVES HIM WHO SENT ME HAS ETERNAL LIFE AND WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED....I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, A TIME IS COMING AND HAS NOW COME WHEN THE DEAD HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD AND THOSE WHO HEAR WILL LIVE...@ijawkid do u believe in Jesus as the Son of God?(not a servant) re u ready to live? Cos witout the name Jesus, forget assesing Jehovah..that was why i.chuka said without Jesus your jehovah is 'nothing' and he is right u know.. Don't read your bible like a newspaper.

ijawkid:

Who does not agree that Jesus is the way to which we can get to the FATHER??......all we are saying is that accept the truth that Jesus is lesser than his GOD and FATHER....that is why CHRIST remains a mediator(servant of GOD) between GOD and man........and stop calling the almighty ""SO CALLED JEHOVAH""..........you are making a fool of yourself.......................

Bidam: lol..e bi like say i get your time this morning sha..lemme match all you post..ayam not making a fool of my self..infact ayam foolish for Jesus Christ..I so much Love Him..my Heart beats For Him..He might be a "servant" to you cos dats wat ur itching ears like to hear(like a muslim)...But He is my Lord and Personal Savior..He is the King of kings, He is the Lord of lords..heaven and earth adore Him..angels bow before Him.

Boomark:

the spirit(not the Holyspirit) in you can't even us. The spirit that can twist "the head of Christ is God" to mean Christ is the express image of God.

Shameful!!!

ijawkid:

Chei I don die ooo......bidam just evaded the clear scriptures I quoted that shows Jesus is the servant of GOD..............I believe Jesus is the son of GOD and the[b]servant[/b] of GOD.........you on the other hand are dodging who Jesus truly is..........I agree with scriptures that he is both son and servant of GOD,I'm waiting for you to agree.......

Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!

Bidam: lol..abeg stay no run..you need to give your life to CHRIST..LOOK AT WHAT JESUS TELL ME TO TELL YOU IJAWKID THIS MORNING: "I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WHOEVER HEARS MY WORD AND BELIEVES HIM WHO SENT ME HAS ETERNAL LIFE AND WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED.... I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, A TIME IS COMING AND HAS NOW COME WHEN THE DEAD HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD AND THOSE WHO HEAR WILL LIVE...@ijawkid do u believe in Jesus as the Son of God?(not a servant) re u ready to live? Cos witout the name Jesus, forget assesing Jehovah..that was why i.chuka said without Jesus your jehovah is 'nothing' and he is right u know.. Don't read your bible like a newspaper.

Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!

Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!

Bidam: i laff in tongues..just like a farasee..too bad we are on the internet..are u so overzealous in defending yahweh? I would be glad to see u face to face so u could stone me like they stone righteous stephen..ayam willing to suffer persecution for Christ.

Bidam: ayam not evading any scriptures..you are the one not getting it..He came in the likeness of men thru the virgin birth..so wat do you expect from Him than to serve..look @ phil 2:6.." Who, being in THE VERY NATURE GOD,did not consider EQUALITY with God something to be grasped(that means he set a pattern for humility here and dats why He calls Himself servant cos He came for service...did u get it! You guys are even the ones evading philipians 2:6 see me see wahala!!!

ijawkid:

Smh!!!!!!........go and read isaiah my freind and see things for yourself...........long before Jesus was sent,the scriptures ideÑtified him as Gods holy servant.........even Jesus openly acknowledged he is GODs servant when on earth.....then 1 corinthians 15:24-28 which you and bidam have been dodging shows Jesus would remain the subject or subordinate he is forever..........
______________________________

Look at these respective scriptures and then go to sleep....

Isaiah 53:11
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be
satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will
justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
_______________________________
Matthew 12:17 $ 18

17 This was
to fulfill what was spoken
through the prophet Isaiah:
18 “Here is[b]my servant[/b] whom
I have chosen,
the one I love, in whom I
delight;
I will put my Spirit on him,
and he will proclaim justice
to the nations.
________________________________
Acts 3:13
13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified
his[b]servant[/b] Jesus. You handed him over to be
killed, and you disowned him before Pilate,
though he had decided to let him go
_______________________________

Jesus remains a servant and a subordinate to GOD yesterday,today and forever more..........

That is why GOD calls Jesus my holy servant and Jesus in
turn calls the Father my GOD..........

These are clear truths you have chosen to walk away from............just as
we are and remain slaves of CHRIST §o also CHRIST is and remains a slave(servant) of GOD..........chikena.............

________________________________

And I'm leaving your thread.............bye bye.....

Joagbaje:

Jesus came as a 100% human even though he was part of the Godhead

Joagbaje:

Jesus came as a 100% human even though he was part of the Godhead as the word of God which became him

Joagbaje:

Jesus came as a 100% human even though he was part of the Godhead as the word of God which became him

ijawkid:

Jesus not only concurs that he is GOds servant because he came for service,God himself calls Jesus my servant and also because Jesus has always been Yahwehs servant.....take note of the possesive pronouns used.....".MY servant"",,""HIS servant"".........stop trying to water down Jesus being a servant of GOD to be a momentary one..................from Gods stand point Jesus was obedient and subservient just as a good son and servant would be,while from our stand point Jesus was HUMBle for coming to reside here on earth with men which he is greater than......the Father being the head of all gives commands and it is obligatory for his servants to carry them out.........Jesus was under obligation to obey his Father because he is Gods servant..............philippians in no way negates that Jesus is Gods servant now and forever more....try to get this into your head........

Boomark:

This is still not the explanation to the meaning of GODHEAD. Please stop laffing and help me explain it abeg. You are digressing.

Col 2:9...notice the word fullness..no man, past, present and future has or has attained the fullness of God or the FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS IN THEM IN BODILY FORM...

show me a verse in the NT where God himself called Jesus HIS 'SERVANT'...ayam waiting.....

BARRISTERS: @Bidam



if "the fullness of God or the FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS IN THEM IN BODILY FORM" that is christ is 100 percent God in Bodily Form, then why was he 'lower than even the angels' while he is in the body instead of beign higher than the angels, your concept of 'Godhead' seems to be inactive here;

heb 2:9

'we saw jesus who was made lower than the Angels

explain pls

BARRISTERS: @Bidam



if "the fullness of God or the FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS IN THEM IN BODILY FORM" that is christ is 100 percent God in Bodily Form, then why was he 'lower than even the angels' while he is in the body instead of beign higher than the angels, your concept of 'Godhead' seems to be inactive here;

heb 2:9

'we saw jesus who was made lower than the Angels

explain pls

Bidam: funny u should quote a line of verse for an argument..ok lemme use the aramaic translation for a better understanding heb 2:9 "But we see that he is Yeshua, who became a little lower than the angels for the suffering of his death, and glory and honor are placed upon his head, For God himself by his grace, tasted death in the place of every person" .
Explanation: He became man or He was born under the law..in hierachy man was under the angels(becos all have sinned including adam(roman 5:12)..Jesus took human flesh, it was by POSITION and not by nature.He took a temporary position as a servant(dats why i pity those like ijawkid who still think of him as a servant right now..smh!). That He might taste death for everyone to reedem them(romans 5:6-..the object of the apostle here is to show that He was 'exalted' and in order to show this he took us back to Jesus "temporal position"...also read phil 2: 8-9 to show the reason why He was exalted and given a Name far above every name.

BARRISTERS: @Bidam



Matthew 12:18,19;
New King James Version

18[size=16pt] “Behold! My Servant whom I have chosen,
My Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased![/size]
I will put My Spirit upon Him,
And He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out,

@bidam, any objection? or any prize for who supplies the answer?

i.chuka:


He came to serve..Philphn2:7,though He is very God..Philphn2:6.
His purpose here on earth was to serve,even as the fullness of God dwelleth in Him bodily,He only came as a Servant.

Bidam: the context of mathew 12..was the fufillment of the prophecy of isaiah(isaiah 42:1-4)..infact Jesus was still under the law becos he is still yet to be crucified..most scholars even view the book of mathew as OT under the law..like i said He took a 'Temporary' position of a servant..isaiah even prophesied him as a "LAMB"(Is 53:7) .right now He will Judge the living and the dead( 2 tim4:1 )