Scientist..

tobtap: Scientist..

lol, it's really not a science fiction

Neanderthals are known as Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, a species of humans Homo sapiens sapiens.
They are in no way inferior to humans.

Where do they come from?
Who was their Adam or their Eve?

Christians only wants to believe that the world is only 6000 years old,created by their ilusive god.And like you know,most africans are deluded,issue like this that can free them from metal slavery and set them on the path of survival of the fittest is a no go area for them.

Issues like the dinosaurs.

redsun: Christians only wants to believe that the world is only 6000 years old,created by their ilusive God.

Good point. I don't understand how people still reject evolution even after overwhelming evidence proving it to be true has been found.
Most Christians actually believe that there is a grand conspiracy involving scientists who plan to deceive the world into accepting evolution.
I was opportuned to speak to such a christian before.

i still find it difficult reconciling existence of dinosaurs with the bible.

[quote author=fellis]
Good point. I don't understand how people still reject evolution even after overwhelming evidence proving it to be true has been found.
Most Christians actually believe that there is a grand conspiracy involving scientists who plan to deceive the world into accepting evolution.
I was opportuned to speak to such a christian before.[
/quote]

They like it the easy way out,begging god for miracles,especially the black ones.And they are too lazy and fearful to face reality.

That is what i call gross and fundamental irresponsibilities that are the bane of black backwardness.

fellis:
I don't understand how people still reject evolution even after overwhelming evidence proving it to be true has been found.

Lol. Stop deceiving yaself

redsun: Christians only wants to believe that the world is only 6000 years old,created by their ilusive god.And like you know,most africans are deluded,issue like this that can free them from metal slavery and set them on the path of survival of the fittest is a no go area for them.

Issues like the dinosaurs.

Don't tell me you're an atheist, bro...

Yeah, Christianity is an organised religion based on a medieval book of allegories plagiarised from the Egyptian book of the dead... And story of Adam and Eve is the biggest lie ever told...However, to deny that there's a supreme being is just as delusional as Christians... Science is also make believe based on superficial and simplistic crap - you need to study ancient cosmology to understand this planet and the universe better... The ancient men acknowledged the existence of a supreme being and they were far more advanced and knowledgeable than we're today...

Topic:

Neaderthals were/are another specie of homosapiens and who ever created us created them as well... Heck, neanderthals are still everywhere - they're in the DNA of all races of people except negroes...

shymexx:

Don't tell me you're an atheist, bro...

Yeah, Christianity is an organised religion based on a medieval book of allegories plagiarised from the Egyptian book of the dead... And story of Adam and Eve is the biggest lie ever told...However, to deny that there's a supreme being is just as delusional as Christians... Science is also make believe based on superficial and simplistic crap - you need to study ancient cosmology to understand this planet and the universe better... The ancient men acknowledged the existence of a supreme being and they were far more advanced and knowledgeable than we're today...

Speak for yourself,if the ancient were more advanced and knowledgeable than you,which is obvious without you telling me,good.

I am the god of my own time and my existence.

There is no connection between modern human and Neanderthals. That was the end of the evolutionary theory.

Evolution has been debunked since the 40s but academic na indoctrination. There is no direct link or there a missing link between us and neanderthals. That suggests a different origin for us.

Once that is accepted, many things start to make sense scientifically. Sumerian gospel will start to make perfect sense as it described how people from other planet came and mixed 80% of their DNA with local Homo Sapiens DNA. (Exactly as said in the Epic of Gilgamesh but in diff lang of course). This translate to let us make man in our image and liking. The entire Genesis is directly lifted from an older book. books more than 7k years old?

How do we explain the 150k years mining site found in South Africa? Were those built by Neanderthals?

Evolution is wrong and has been debunked. It's just that the mainstream academic is full of ignorance and politics that science is now been threatened by the ego of men and the spread of convenient falsehood as truth.


How else are we to explain the many tablets found older than the time evolutionists said modern man evolved?

Evolution is just a theory of convenience. How else is that although, the missing link that Darwin was looking for has not been found? Why is it that although evolution doesn't have conclusive evidence like science requires yet evolution was shoved down academicians' throats? And any researcher/scientist that diverts from the evolution theory has their careers systematically destroyed?

redsun:
Speak for yourself,if the ancient were more advanced and knowledgeable than you,which is obvious without you telling me,good.

I am the god of my own time and my existence.

Lmao at the first line... Who started everything this generation built on?? Whose fossils and footsteps are on all the continents on this planet?? Who told you the planet was round?? Heck, you just discovered the planet was round in the 19th century!!

If you're the god of your own time and existence, how come you can't see into the future and control your destiny by yourself?? It shows you lack the knowledge and higher consciousness to do that... Don't let pride destroy you - the same pride that has destroyed mother earth!!!

Pay homage to the ancient man and the supreme being!!

The damn universe is like an atom to the supreme being - everything in the universe exist with that atom... That's why the universe works in unison - advance science and cosmology, not the make believe crap the neanderthal offspring teach you in school...

0lumide: There is no connection between modern human and Neanderthals. That was the end of the evolutionary theory.

Evolution has been debunked since the 40s but academic na indoctrination. There is no direct link or there a missing link between us and neanderthals. That suggests a different origin for us.

Once that is accepted, many things start to make sense scientifically. Sumerian gospel will start to make perfect sense as it described how people from other planet came and mixed 80% of their DNA with local Homo Sapiens DNA. (Exactly as said in the Epic of Gilgamesh but in diff lang of course). This translate to let us make man in our image and liking. The entire Genesis is directly lifted from an older book. books more than 7k years old?

How do we explain the 150k years mining site found in South Africa? Were those built by Neanderthals?

Evolution is wrong and has been debunked. It's just that the mainstream academic is full of ignorance and politics that science is now been threatened by the ego of men and the spread of convenient falsehood as truth.


How else are we to explain the many tablets found older than the time evolutionists said modern man evolved?

Evolution is just a theory of convenience. How else is that although, the missing link that Darwin was looking for has not been found? Why is it that although evolution doesn't have conclusive evidence like science requires yet evolution was shoved down academicians' throats? And any researcher/scientist that diverts from the evolution theory has their careers systematically destroyed?

Word @ the bolded!!

Charles Darwin shares the title of the most overrated dead man ever with Albert Einstein.... More reason why everything we're indoctrinated with is just pure crap...

0lumide: There is no connection between modern human and Neanderthals. That was the end of the evolutionary theory.

Evolution has been debunked since the 40s but academic na indoctrination. There is no direct link or there a missing link between us and neanderthals. That suggests a different origin for us.

Olumide Sir, evolution is a theory of convenience?
You do not see the effects of evolution within your extended family - going back a couple of generations, say?

I tell you, I pick up all kinds of new knowledge from subject matter experts on Nairaland with every visit.
Make I go come

Neanderthals live on in DNA of humans

The first comparison of the complete genomes of humans and Neanderthals reveals that up to 4% of our DNA is Neanderthal


Neanderthal DNA may be commonplace in human genomes outside Africa as a result of interbreeding around 60,000 years ago. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images


There is a little Neanderthal in nearly all of us, according to scientists who compared the genetic makeup of humans with that of our closest ancient relatives.

Most people living outside Africa can trace up to 4% of their DNA to a Neanderthal origin, a consequence of interbreeding between the two groups after the great migration from the contintent.

Anthropologists have long speculated that early humans may have mated with Neanderthals, but the latest study provides the strongest evidence so far, suggesting that such encounters took place around 60,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent region of the Middle East.

Small, pioneering groups of modern humans began to leave Africa 80,000 years ago and reached land occupied by the Neanderthals as they spread into Eurasia. The two may have lived alongside each other in small groups until the Neanderthals died out 30,000 years ago.

Scientists led by Svante Pääbo at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig took four years to sequence the whole Neanderthal genome from powdered bone fragments taken from three females who lived in Europe 40,000 years ago.

To see how similar the Neanderthal was to modern humans, the team compared the ancient DNA with the genomes of five people from France, China, southern Africa, western Africa and Papua New Guinea. The study is the first to attempt a whole-genome comparison between Neanderthals and modern humans.

The researchers found that modern humans and Neanderthals shared 99.7% of their DNA, which was inherited from a common ancestor 400,000 years ago. Further analysis revealed that Neanderthals were more closely related to modern humans who left Africa than to the descendants of those who stayed. Between 1% and 4% of the DNA in modern Europeans, Asians and those as far afield as Papua New Guinea, was inherited from Neanderthals.

"Those of us who live outside Africa carry a little Neanderthal in us," said Professor Pääbo. "Neanderthals probably mixed with early modern humans before Homo sapiens split into different groups in Europe and Asia. The comparison of these two genetic sequences enables us to find out where our genome differs from that of our closest relative."

Interbreeding between humans and Neanderthals may nonetheless have been rare. Just two Neanderthal females in a group of around a hundred humans would have been enough to leave such a trace in our genome, provided that was the group that gave rise to all modern humans outside Africa.

The study, reported in the journal Science, was greeted by scientists as almost certain confirmation that modern humans and Neanderthals mated when the groups crossed paths. "It certainly tells us something about human nature," said Chris Stringer, head of human origins at the Natural History Museum in London.

Ed Green, a senior author on the study at the University of California, Santa Cruz, said: "How these peoples would have interacted culturally is not something we can speculate on in any meaningful way. But knowing that there was gene flow is important, and it is fascinating to think about how that may have happened."

He added: "The scenario is not what most people had envisioned. We found the genetic signal of Neanderthals in all the non-African genomes, meaning that the admixture occurred early on, probably in the Middle East, and is shared with all descendants of the early humans who migrated out of Africa."

The German group has yet to investigate what purpose, if any, the Neanderthal genes play in modern humans. But the study did highlight several genes that are unique to modern humans. They are thought to be involved in the development of brain function, features of the skull, metabolism and formation of the collar bone and rib cage.

"A major next step will be to find out not only what the unique human genes are doing, but whether the genes we've got from Neanderthals are of functional significance. Is there something in the biology of people outside Africa that is coming from those Neanderthal genes?" said Prof Stringer.

^^^^That doesn't prove anything - it basically just shows that non-negroes have neanderthal DNA in them... If we're from the same ancestors, how come negroes have zero neanderthal DNA??

If we go by your assertion, then chimps and humanoids also have the same common ancestor, no??

eGuerrilla:

Olumide Sir, evolution is a theory of convenience?
You do not see the effects of evolution within your extended family - going back a couple of generations, say?

I tell you, I pick up all kinds of new knowledge from subject matter experts on Nairaland with every visit.
Make I go come

Lmao!! You are crazy!!..


I'm not an expert in evolution, I'm just saying what I was thought by reading that isn't thought in schools.

Also, according to your article, we share 4% of our DNA with Neandertals lol. we share 50% of our DNA with bananas. Does that mean we evolved from Bananas? Lmao!! You are not serious..

Seriously, when they said there was no link between modern humans and other homo sapiens, they meant that humans were suppose to evolve into something else first on the evolutionary tree before evolving into modern human. (Chronolgy 101, the chicken or egg which came first lol)..

The missing link is still the unanswered question by evolutionists.. Again, I'm rather an econs graduate not a biologist or something of that nature but I read alot.

I don't even think all the races of people on this planet have the same common ancestors, to be honest... A lot of mixing has happened, no doubt - however, we need to find the missing link... Not all races of people came out of Africa... And I'm sure neanderthal originated from a different continent...

For example: there are some animals that have no connection whatsoever with Africa... So, the same should be applicable to homo sapiens...

Humans share about 50% of their DNA with bananas.
It’s true. Humans share 50% of their DNA with bananas. Apparently Steve Jones, Professor of Genetics at University College, London is credited with stating this information. Kind of freaky when you think about it. DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) is what makes us all different, but the difference between us and the next species or even a fruit isn’t as significant as you would think.
However, according to Penn State University, a human DNA sequence, if it were a half an inch of a twine, would stretch from New York to the the west coast of California. That makes that 50% seem all the more distant when you think of the whole number/complexity that the percent refers to.

http://www.information-facts.com/women/humans-share-about-50-of-their-dna-with-bananas

^^^^And also 98% with chimps...

shymexx: ^^^^That doesn't prove anything - it basically just shows that non-negroes have neanderthal DNA in them... If we're from the same ancestors, how come negroes have zero neanderthal DNA??

If we go by your assertion, then chimps and humanoids also have the same common ancestor, no??

@shymexx, it would be the height of intellectual dishonesty for me to take credit for those assertions
I do maintain a healthy dose of curiosity though, and generally do not discount new insights out of hand simply because of orthodoxy or some long cherished viewpoint.

You will find this issue has not been resolved conclusively if you take time to review Genetic Data and Fossil Evidence Tell Differing Tales of Human Origins and [url=http://www.cell.com/abstract/S0092-8674%2812%2900831-8Evolutionary/]History and Adaptation from High-Coverage Whole-Genome Sequences of Diverse African Hunter-Gatherers[/url], for instance.

Geneticists studying DNA now say that, to the contrary, a previously unknown archaic species of human, a cousin of the Neanderthals, may have lingered in Africa until perhaps 25,000 years ago, coexisting with the modern humans and on occasion interbreeding with them.

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem, but the perpetual human predicament is that the answer soon poses its own problems."~ Sidney J Harris

asha 80: i still find it difficult reconciling existence of dinosaurs with the bible.

Bible is a middle Eastern Religious book, just like Koran, forced down on us.

fellis:
Good point. I don't understand how people still reject evolution even after overwhelming evidence proving it to be true has been found.
Most Christians actually believe that there is a grand conspiracy involving scientists who plan to deceive the world into accepting evolution.
I was opportuned to speak to such a christian before.

Exactly, even if you hand them a dinosaur bone, they will claim it's fake.

shymexx: Topic:

Neaderthals were/are another specie of homosapiens and who ever created us created them as well... Heck, neanderthals are still everywhere - they're in the DNA of all races of people except negroes...

Neanderthals are not still everywhere! We killed them off though a trace of their DNA could be found in a few people indicating we interbred.

Neanderthals evolved same time as we did but in Europe and Middle East while we evolved from Africa. We emigrated to Europe and killed them off since we are aggressive by nature.

asha 80: i still find it difficult reconciling existence of dinosaurs with the bible.

Read Job 40 : 15 -24 and tell me what you think

Left to me, I still find the theory of intelligent design much more desirable than evolutionism. Bearing the fact that a living thing cannot encode it's own DNA. DNA did not happen by chance, they contain billions of magnificent codes; a single unit/block of code couldn't have written itself. The DNA in living things are designed and programmed to become self-organising and productive. Every code has a period of initialisation, which is when its ticking clock started. Could cells in DNA have kick-started itself into life? Who/what was involved in kick-starting it in the very first human/animal? As a programmer, I find it intriguing (and repulsive too) that a unicellular organism 'organised' or 'morphed' itself into multicellular beings like us. That's what evolution says, and it sounds very incredulous. Theory of intelligent design is it!!!

Is it possible to put all the parts of a Boeing 747 in a garage and a tornado ran through it and assembled a Boeing?

Thats the chance of the big bang theory

dayokanu: Is it possible to put all the parts of a Boeing 747 in a garage and a tornado ran through it and assembled a Boeing?

Thats the chance of the big bang theory

These are independent variables with as high as 100% probability of not happening. Nice thinking, bro. Big b.ang theory still does not tell us what happened before time t = 0. It only tells us what happened after time t = 0. Shouldn't there be a period of initialisation? Who initialised the inherent environment for such possible events? Bro, I think you should read the theory of intelligent design.

Crap! Crap!! Crap!!!

The greatest lies come from these scientists.

God knows the number of times they said the world would come to an end, yet they have died and the world still remains.

Lastweek they also said that a large mass was moving in the direction of the earth and that it would destroy the earth by 2036. Big lie!

If they wanna prove themselves, let 'em create phones, cars, jets, drugs out of nothing. I mean all they have made in this world was manufactured from what God deposited in the earth! Yet they would say "the dikes and molten magma brought themselves together to form blah blah blah" - confusing us with scientific terms.

Funny enough, they may come tomorrow to say "Hey we just discovered that all neanderthals evolved from West Africa, specifically Nigeria". Some goons will swallow it! Just like they said the world was once flat...and now its round. Shior!

Listen, my DNA doesn't contain any iota of neanderthals. Its 100% human. I didn't evolve from any anything. I was made by God. Only the offspring of evolution will believe these lies!

Neanderthals ko, New Zealand ni.


Frawzey

dayokanu: Is it possible to put all the parts of a Boeing 747 in a garage and a tornado ran through it and assembled a Boeing?

That's the chance of the big bang theory

Abi o. Big slam theory indeed.

One thing that I've come to realise in this world is that the truth is hard to find. When we read a book of history, biography and invention, how sure are we that the author said the whole truth? From the Big Slam (lie) theory to World War 1 & 2, even Achebe's There was a country - all these writers don't say the whole truth. Its good to read these books with an open mind. That's why there's fiction and textbooks .

Only the Bible stands the test of time! Still the most sold book in the world with the whole truth. That's the only book I don't read with an open mind - I believe it and its been working for me. I'd rather die believing that God made the heaven and the earth than calling myself an evolved being because one scientist who couldn't de-mystify death said so.


Frawzey