MacDaddy01:



Watching or searching is not the issue. Your muslims still search for special kinds of po.rn more than the Western countries. Isnt this shameful? Why not admit that muslims are no more moral than christians or atheists.

SEARCH NOT watch! That is that! Keep dancing around the point! No EVIDENCE so far tendered proves muslims were the ones SEARCHING such rubbish it remains your assumption, MAINLY MUSLIM COUNTRIES OUTLAW po.rn that's fact not an assumption! Islam seeks to make a muslim better not the other way round!

vedaxcool:

SEARCH NOT watch! That is that! Keep dancing around the point! No EVIDENCE so far tendered proves muslims were the ones SEARCHING such rubbish it remains your assumption, MAINLY MUSLIM COUNTRIES OUTLAW po.rn that's fact not an assumption! Islam seeks to make a muslim better not the other way round!

Muslim majority countries rank higher than christian majority countries in searches for specific porn. Hwoever, we are to believe that it is not muslims that are searching for the po.rn in muslim majority countries. Please explain; if it is only christians searching for po.rn in muslims majority countries then how is it that it is more than christian majority countries when christians are the minority in those countries?


Flipping the argument, it would be like me arguing that in America, the people who search for po.rn arent mostly christians, it could be the muslim minority



Stop this denial. It is becoming embarrassing. It is better to provide solutions rather than deny the problem

SEARCH not watch SEARCH not watch, feel free to dance around this very simple point! Did the google website specifically says muslims do such SEARCH? If your answer is yes then you are a LIAR if your answer is NO then please shut up! We thought atheist only believe in stuff that has CONCRETE evidence? well we know an average Nigerian relishes in hypocrisy! And what context was the search done? The website did not say for all we know an abdulsleek could have been told: oh do you know atheist in sweden have predilection for sex with animals? abdulsleek say really? He searches it and. Oh boy na wa oh it is true and that is that! Since it is a matter of searching the whole argument is worthless, but in the mind of an islamophobe search = watch hence working themselves into a frenzy, but finally logic, common sense shows clearly SEARCH is not watch, why did they SEARCH such , WE DON'T KNOW, so why all the tears and hating? I have shown clearly using the wikipedia link posted earlier that po.rn is produce and consumed in large quantities by the WEST! Muslims countries remain amongst the few places that have continued to reject the legality of po.rn!

lols and lmaos sEems aproprite here

vedaxcool: SEARCH not watch SEARCH not watch, feel free to dance around this very simple point! Did the google website specifically says muslims do such SEARCH? If your answer is yes then you are a LIAR if your answer is NO then please shut up! We thought atheist only believe in stuff that has CONCRETE evidence? well we know an average Nigerian relishes in hypocrisy! And what context was the search done? The website did not say for all we know an abdulsleek could have been told: oh do you know atheist in sweden have predilection for sex with animals? abdulsleek say really? He searches it and. Oh boy na wa oh it is true and that is that! Since it is a matter of searching the whole argument is worthless, but in the mind of an islamophobe search = watch hence working themselves into a frenzy, but finally logic, common sense shows clearly SEARCH is not watch, what did they SEARCH it for, WE DON'T KNOW, so why all the tears and hating? I have shown clearly using the wikipedia link posted earlier that po.rn is produce and consumed in large quantities by the WEST! Muslims countries remain amongst the few places that have continued to reject the legality of po.rn!

lols and lmaos sEems aproprite here

Denial is a very sad thing.

Finally LOGIC is trampling upon Islamophobia!

vedaxcool: Finally is LOGIC is trampling upon Islamophobia!

Islamophobia? Me of all people? How did you arrive there from my comments

I would like to know how many islamophobic people read the quran, have muslim girlfriends and enjoy the food of eid/sallh meat etc

MacDaddy01: @ betathings,


Stop playing strawmen and address the topic. It is clear that some mulsim countries search for porn more than Western ones.

What does this mean to islam and how do we go from there?

I am really not interested in playing to your agenda
Most of the past attempts to sincerely present Islamic viewpoints to you were met with derision
As an atheist, you are dedicated to the eradication of all religions, especially Islam.
Of course you are very very free to pursue that goal. But I should not become your accomplice
My time is better served exchanging ideas with fellow muslims and non-muslims who sincerely desire to know Islamic viewpoints

BetaThings:

I am really not interested in playing to your agenda
Most of the past attempts to sincerely present Islamic viewpoints to you were met with derision
As an atheist, you are dedicated to the eradication of all religions, especially Islam.
Of course you are very very free to pursue that goal. But I should not become your accomplice
My time is better served exchanging ideas with fellow muslims and non-muslims who sincerely desire to know Islamic viewpoints

Your statement in bold highlights some ignorance and hypocrisy. You do not understand atheism but you are quick to claim that one is not ready to learn about islam.

Who told you that atheism or atheists are dedicated to the eradication of all religions? What kind of ignorant statement is that?

Let me explain what a secular society is;
-A society where everybody can keep their religion/practice it but religion has no place in the politics, govt and law.

So dont care if you practice your religion as long as it is kept far away from the law and my life.

MacDaddy01:

Islamophobia? Me of all people? How did you arrive there from my comments

I would like to know how many islamophobic people read the quran, have muslim girlfriends and enjoy the food of eid/sallh meat etc

You're still an islamophobe or don't you know?

Paschal007: You're still an islamophobe or don't you know?

lol

MacDaddy01:


Your statement in bold highlights some ignorance and hypocrisy. You do not understand atheism but you are quick to claim that one is not ready to learn about islam.

Who told you that atheism or atheists are dedicated to the eradication of all religions? What kind of ignorant statement is that?

Let me explain what a secular society is;
-A society where everybody can keep their religion/practice it but religion has no place in the politics, govt and law.

So dont care if you practice your religion as long as it is kept far away from the law and my life.

Actually, you did.

Logicboy03: Reading through some threads on the front page, there are many atheists out there that frequent the religion section without commenting. Sometimes, when I'm in other sections, some people that I have never spoken to say "logicboy keep up the good work" or "i also dont believe in religion"- these are people I have never seen on the religion section.

Furthermore, when you read comments on gay issues and issues on the church, many seem to care less about religion. My best thread is where people are tired of church services;
https://www.nairaland.com/1074090/how-cope-during-boring-church

Religion is running out of time. In Nigeria, it will take time but the inevitable path has been set

BetaThings:

Actually, you did.

Did you even read what you quoted?

"Religion is running out of time in Nigeria"


How does that translate to Logicboy is dedicated to the eradication of religion? Is it me removing people from churches in Nigeria or the people themselves? Do I even live in Nigeria?

MacDaddy01:



Did you even read what you quoted?

"Religion is running out of time in Nigeria"
How does that translate to Logicboy is dedicated to the eradication of religion?

You are a logical person. Non-atheists are not. We are brainwashed.
Please explain to me what these mean
(a) Religion is running out of time means
(b) In Nigeria, it will take time but the inevitable path has been set

I also want you to tell me your attitude towards the phenomenon of "religion unning out of time".

MacDaddy01:
Is it me removing people from churches in Nigeria or the people themselves?

You mean you are sad that "people are leaving churches"?
And you would not do anything to accelerate what you see as migration from churches?

MacDaddy01:
Do I even live in Nigeria?

Obama does not live in Afghanistan. So what has that got to do with his interest there?

BetaThings:
You are a logical person. Non-atheists are not. We are brainwashed.
Please explain to me what these mean
(a) Religion is running out of time means
(b) In Nigeria, it will take time but the inevitable path has been set

I also want you to tell me your attitude towards the phenomenon of "religion unning out of time".



You mean you are sad that "people are leaving churches"?
And you would not do anything to accelerate what you see as migration from churches?



Obama does not live in Afghanistan. So what has that got to do with his interest there?

Look, here is a simple explanation for your paranoid self;


I do not believe in any religion. If religion is kept out of the law and govt, I have no problem with that.

Now, we know religion is dying in the west. Am I happy? Of course but that doesnt mean that I want to ban religion or eradicate it like a diseease. It must be natural, people must choose to do so on their own. It would be wrong for me to change the law and say that Betathings shoulnt be a muslim.

I am cool with living with religious people (in a secular society) and I am cool living in a totally irreligious society. Both ways are good enough.


By the way, there are atheists that are religious- there are buddhists who dont believe in gods

^^^^
Just be consistent. And this belief that some can always adroitly wriggle themselves out of an inconsistent position is always funny.

BetaThings: ^^^^
Just be consistent. And this belief that some can always adroitly wriggle themselves out of an inconsistent position is always funny.

Seriously?


If you have nothing to say, just keep quiet. Atheism is not a belief.

Also, there is nothing inconsistent with what i wrote, you just cant find anything to criticise.

@op of the six muslim countries listed in ur post only two use Arabic as official language, the rest use other languages: Iran speaak persian, Turkey speaks Turkish, Pakistani Urdu etc. And the two most popuulous countries on the list: Pakistan and Indonesia majority there dont speak Arabic. Arabic is mostly spoken by islamic scholars just like among nigerian muslims.Yet the poll declared Arabic as top language used in the online search!

My candid view is this is another attempt to discredit islam.

but we know the religion that officially accept gay men as priests. it is certainly not islam